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1) The US decides to invade North Korea to "liberate" the nation, and try to make it democratic. Save the starving people! 2) Kim does not like the idea of being invaded, and before his regime falls, he launches his nuclear arsenal on South Korea, as it is a very successful capitalistic nation, and one of his arch-enemies. The entire South Korean population of 48 million people is eradicated, but the nuclear winds spread north-west, through North Korea and into China. 3) China, a well-known supporter of North Korea during the cold war, also the reason why the US/UN did not manage to reunite the Koreas, do not like getting their soil irradiated. More than likely, they would sign trade embargoes against the US and likely other Western nations. From here, an endless amount of outcomes could occur. Nothing may happen. Or maybe China launches a massive IBCM strike, targeting US soil with the knowledge of the US being impossible to conquer by conventional means. Trying a coup d'êtat on the US government would be close to impossible due to the strength of the army, and the amount of weapons carried by civilians in the US. You'd get the entire population against you. Better just obliterate everything. And of course, this leads to counterstrikes from the US to "save what's left" of the population, etcetera, etcetera. |
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I don't know why you people think I said we should go to war with them now, someone just asked for a reason to go. Nobody said he WE HAVE TO GO TO WAR WITH THEM, it would just be better for the world and everyone's lives to do away with communism altogether. I really don't see how you people can see anything from the communist's as being a reason not to irradicate their form of Tyranny.
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Ok MJ, I have decided that you are hopeless when it comes to this subject since you are a liberal. :rolleyes:
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And, Badboy, tell me, where exactly is the tyranny in communism? |
It's called 1 child per family, it's called Stalin murdering thousands of his own people. It's called the North Vietnamese killing the South. It's called the North Koreans killing the South. It's called ANY country with STAN in it's name. It's called THE BERLIN WALL. It's called Cuba, a once very wealthy country, and now it's flooded with poverty. If you don't call that tyranny, than what is it.
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Very good points you brought up there, badboy
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The Russians took over Germany after World War II. Split it in two with half communist, half not. East Germany was communist.
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Oh yea. I forgot it was put up after the war.
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I still haven't found out why we are in Iraq, and Who the hell everyon wants to vote for....
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Opposed to the "let's collect 20 good christians, get shotguns, and fly to Germany" plan.
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I've got a thought. What gives us the damn right to make decisions for any other country.
Lets say that some other government doesn't like the way we're run. They decide to come here to liberate us. WE SURE AS HELL WOULDN'T FUCKING LET IT STAND. But that christian/germany plan is a keeper. |
Hay guyz bad things happened. I BLAME BUSH!!!!!!!!11111!1one
Seriously, the way you guys talk it seems like it's the reincarnation of Hitler. For God's sake, at least find another scapegoat. I'm tired of hearing about Bush being the anti-Christ. |
Bush Isn't an anti christ at all, he's just an imbred redneck from texas that is war hungry.
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So, let's bring this to the North Korean perspective ONCE AGAIN. The US strikes North Korea, and the collateral damage is great. Kim, who has a nuclear arsenal, would hardly just accept his loss; he'd unleash his nuclear wrath upon Capitalism; the EVIL of the world. Oh, and maybe you overlooked North Korea's chances of turning into a democracy without fucking running at a risk of turning the Earth uninhabitable from permanent nuclear winter? Efforts are being made, especially by the UN, to get North Korea to give up their entire nuclear arsenal. They WILL get free, although the talks are going to take a number of years. A DDR-alike revolt could take place, too. And I hardly see a population of 22 million North Koreans to be a "measily peasant revolt", as someone ever-so-eloquently put it. And where exactly did you find out that their army is loyal to Kim? I'd REALLY like to see your sources for your information, zagggon, due to the controversy you've created. I'm not liberal. I'm not even a member of the United States. All I do is to think rationally, unlike some others who think war is the ONLY solution to everything. Fucking atrocious bullies. And no, communism is bad. It's very bad, especially as it isn't established as ANYTHING but a despotism anywhere in the world. Communism shouldn't have a leader who rules the people. How is that equal to anything? Forcing communism upon a people doesn't work without great casualties. The world should and WILL get rid of it, but war is NOT the key. War is just a dumb excuse for letting the US improve its heavily-war-dependent weapon industry economy. |
I'm sick and tired of people calling him "an imbred redneck from texas." Prejudice anyone?
Oh yeah, Christians are the scum of the earth, we should have a Christian Genocide. |
I say we give every son of a bitch in the states a lead jacket and drop some nukes on every piece of shit country in the world (a.k.a. everyone but Canada, England and Jamaica). Yay for fallout.
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You're saying that we should directly endanger the WHOLE WORLD with mutually-assured destruction that WOULD happen if we were to try and invade North Korea since they do have nuclear weapons. You're saying that a few million "starving people" is worth putting the rest of the world on the line? This and WWII are two completely different scenarios. If you want to try and use the reasoning that people who hold my opinion are the reason Hitler and Stalin did all their shit, think about what the circumstances were then. Hitler didn't have nukes. Russia fucking knew that if they were going to use their nuclear arsenal that the world would end, so they didn't do anything on that scale. But North Korea and its leader probably aren't going to think as rationally as Stalin did, because they don't really have much of a reason for being around anyway. You're basically saying that pissing off a guy with no nukes or a guy with nukes who knows what will happen if he uses them is the same as pissing off a guy with nukes who couldn't give a shit if his country was around after a war, so long as he gets to use his weapons to destroy capitalistic populations first. |
Anyway, I'm going to try to get back on topic, and get away from the North Korea topic. I'm going to repost something I wrote about Bush a few months ago, stating a few reasons why I don't like him.
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Ok, you people must think to attack a nuclear country you have to use nukes ? Why kind of retards are you people. It's called assassins. Plus get people on the inside to take them out from there. They kill all the evil people and the country is saved. Get rid of the nukes and there's nothing to worry about. Try to think past saving your ass just cause nukes are a possiblity.
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We were talking about going to war with North Korea. That involves much more than assassins. And you're calling us retards?
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first of all: assassins = dirty and underhanded...dishonorable
second of all: we go to war with them = possible WW III? finally: can we just make negotiations with N. Korea? |
No we cannot negotiate with NK, their leader is a terrible person and cannot be allowed to hold power. It makes me sick that there are so many wusses in the world.
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Ok, Zagggon, I've quite about had it with you flapping your fatuous jaw around, acting like you know something. I'm tired of your ignorant claims of me being wrong, and that being the only thing you say. HOW THE FUCK AM I WRONG? I have asked you numerous times for some sort of proof, any substantial evidence to back your statements, yet you have not provided a single one, and you still have the audacity to continue dribbling this inane bullshit directly from your ass. You have the nerve to tell me that my opinions are wrong? Who the fuck do you think you are? I must hand it to you, you have become a tiny bit smarter than the putz who posted "I can eat you if I want to," but that isn't saying much. You are still a halfwitted imbecile. Do you think because you don't post utter asinine crap anymore that you have all of a sudden become some sort of omniscient being? Ofcourse not. You always have been, and still are, nothing more than a tick on Zelaron's shoulder, contaminating this forum with your putrid ooze pulled strait out of your ass, temporarily lowering my IQ points every time I am unlucky enough to come across something written by you.
While our opinions might not concur, I can respect yours, but don't you dare sit there and try to belittle mine. Until you are god, don't you fucking try that bullshit. You have your eyes glued the fuck shut. I can understand you having your own opinions and whatnot, but keep your mind open, because everyone is inevitably bound to be wrong at some point or the other, and with your mental capacity, I forsee that it will happen quite a bit more with you than others. I am not at all opposed to having a sensible debate, but what you're doing is absolutely puerile. Thus far, all I've seen from you is you bitching "I'm right; you're wrong" in an even less articulate manner. Until you are capable of having a semi-mature debate, shut the fuck up! And are you honestly dense enough to think that politicians are benign people? Please explain to me how the hell they got into power in the first place, ignoramus. Please tell me what gives America the power to make judgement calls on other countries, and if you say our powerful military, I swear to god I will dig your eyes out with a random blunt object. Our military leads to power, but not so we can abuse it. And since America is all-righteous, and can do no wrong, please explain to me why the very people we are liberating hate our guts. Why is it that our presence there is allying two Islamic sects, both who have abhorred eachother for centuries, against a common cause; us? If you are going to say that only a small faction of the Iraqi people dislike us, you've obviously heard that in our own media. I dare you to go to another country and find the same information. The Iraqi people's unhappyness is growing, and we are the reason for their discontent. If the whole world loves us to death, why is it that some olympic-headed athletes are withdrawing from the olympics because they fear for their own safety? Zagggon, take a minute to think before you speak. It really does help to have some thought put behind a statement. I know that's asking a lot from you, but for the sake of the members of this forum, please try. And I would still like to see those sources. |
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I don't mind going in and fighting first and then negotiate, but that is just brute strength without trying at least other alternatives. Good thing you showed us you'd prefer us to be warmongers. |
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Would you care to prove yourself and name one completely law abiding political leader? |
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There's a difference in an "atrocious crime" and a speeding ticket.
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I never said there wasn't a difference.
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What the hell are you talking about? I wasn't even talking to you, I was talking to the moron that posted above you that went from saying that all political leaders have commited atrocious crimes to asking for you to find a single leader who is completely law abiding.
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Why don't you take it to the Flame Forum MJ.
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