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Goodlookinguy 2009-06-17 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sum Yung Guy (Post 675065)
Except for the fact that I get 4 seconds or less windows fully loaded from turning on my computer. The harddrives are the biggest money eater in my system but they will remove that one major bottleneck most computer and your computer have. What about your monitor? You mentioned nothing about that.


That's not true at all. When they say it turns on quickly, it is referring to the fact that the motherboard runs POST and finishes very quickly so that it can get onto the boot process. Mine says it starts in 5-seconds or less (which it technically does). And in reality, my Windows 7 will start up far faster than your XP any day. Why? Because Win 7 starts up in about half the time of Win XP. So who's is better? Mine still.

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Monitor is a 24" and 19". 24" is by Dell (It looks really nice and great price). 19" is old monitor (Still good though). I run dual screens. The 24" would add about $150 dollars to the price. Bringing it to the approx cost of $2450.

Sum Yung Guy 2009-06-17 07:09 AM

So from when you push the power button all the way to windows loading up with a functional start menu how long does it take? Just curious because maybe I might just go win 7... maybe

Goodlookinguy 2009-06-17 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sum Yung Guy (Post 675071)
So from when you push the power button all the way to windows loading up with a functional start menu how long does it take? Just curious because maybe I might just go win 7... maybe

7: 10-20 seconds.
XP: 30-45 seconds.

XP takes far longer for whatever reasons and startup programs start far slower. Both Vista and 7 start up a lot faster and startup the programs at a far faster pace.

Grav 2009-06-17 04:28 PM

Random Q. How long will I be able to use Windows 7 (What are you using? A release candidate?) before MS deactivates it?

Goodlookinguy 2009-06-17 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Grav (Post 675116)
Random Q. How long will I be able to use Windows 7 (What are you using? A release candidate?) before MS deactivates it?


Well there's an, uh huh, time nuke. Otherwise, the RC expires June 2010 if I'm not mistaken.

Sum Yung Guy 2009-06-18 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Grav (Post 675116)
Random Q. How long will I be able to use Windows 7 (What are you using? A release candidate?) before MS deactivates it?

RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows will notify you two weeks before the bi-hourly shutdowns start. To avoid interruption, you'll need to install a non-expired version of Windows before March 1, 2010. You'll also need to install the programs and data that you want to use.

Sum Yung Guy 2009-06-18 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodlookinguy (Post 675074)
7: 10-20 seconds.
XP: 30-45 seconds.

XP takes far longer for whatever reasons and startup programs start far slower. Both Vista and 7 start up a lot faster and startup the programs at a far faster pace.

SSD vs 7,200rpm HD
BORKED

Goodlookinguy 2009-06-18 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sum Yung Guy (Post 675133)
SSD vs 7,200rpm HD
BORKED


I have the Seagate Cheetah 15.6k (450GB at 15000RPM) as my primary HDD now. The stats I showed you were when I first bought it. That's most likely why mine starts so fast.

You know SYG, that you have to consider that age of the computer in the equation. Because I have 20-30+ items opening upon startup. But, the my Cheetah has outperformed SSD in tests. I picked this drive carefully.

Sum Yung Guy 2009-06-18 08:01 AM

I think your just trying to find reasons why your old fashioned hard drive that consumes a lot more power and makes a lot more noise is better than a SSD. As soon as I finish getting the parts and complete my system I will make a video of the startup process.

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Originally Posted by Goodlookinguy (Post 675157)
But, the my Cheetah has outperformed SSD in tests. I picked this drive carefully.

You did the test yourself on your system that has the Cheetah? Slapped in a SSD to see that your Cheetah was faster?

Grav 2009-06-18 08:12 AM

GLG reminds me of

Sum Yung Guy 2009-06-18 08:14 AM

One of those guy's at school/work that always will one up people in conversations.

Grav 2009-06-18 08:16 AM

And he does this because

Sum Yung Guy 2009-06-18 08:17 AM

he has a small

Grav 2009-06-18 08:19 AM

Amount of self esteem and

Sum Yung Guy 2009-06-18 08:21 AM

and at a young age he was

Goodlookinguy 2009-06-18 08:34 AM

Sorry for the last thing I wrote. I wrote that when I'd literally just woken up. I had a hard time understanding what I was saying.

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Originally Posted by Sum Yung Guy (Post 675169)
I think your just trying to find reasons why your old fashioned hard drive that consumes a lot more power and makes a lot more noise is better than a SSD. As soon as I finish getting the parts and complete my system I will make a video of the startup process.


Wow, noise. Who the fuck cares. My computer without the hard drives makes a hela-fucking lot of noise. I can't stand when people complain about noise. For shits sake, if you want a fucking monster, don't fucking complain about the noise.

Sorry, I got a little angry there because I really can't stand people who complain about noise. Why? Because in the end it's not really that loud, it's all in the persons paranoid head.

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Originally Posted by Sum Yung Guy (Post 675169)
You did the test yourself on your system that has the Cheetah? Slapped in a SSD to see that your Cheetah was faster?


I don't have any SSD. But when I was looking for a super fast drive I did lots of research and found some tests between SSD and Cheetah 15k. The Cheetah was the winner overall performance (so that means it won some and lost some). However, upon quickly searching, I could not relocate the test results I'd found. But, that doesn't mean I direct you towards a review of the Cheetah.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...as,2004-3.html
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The average access time of 5.7 ms cannot match the 0.5 ms or less we find with flash SSDs, but this drive still delivers best-of-class access times. In fact, it’s interesting to see that the Cheetah 15K.6 is actually head to head with the 2.5” Savvio 15K.1, which has been the fastest in access time so far."
That's all in milliseconds. A mere .7 or so milliseconds away.

The main problem found in SSD, though, is the fact that they are currently still fairly new. With that, there are many problems that they have. And changes that will probably come within the near future may fix them. I wouldn't bother buying one until they're larger and more stable.

Grav 2009-06-18 08:35 AM

Ostracized for his diminutive size

Edit: way to fuck everything up like you always do GLG

Goodlookinguy 2009-06-18 10:09 AM

Yo, I have an extremely high self esteem. I think you have the wrong person in mind. I can speak/write in three languages fluently, program in 9 programming languages fluently, and 8 other programming languages which I understand but am not yet completely fluent in. I have an ultra computer, and haves tons of free time on my hands, or off them. I have an exceptional girlfriend who lives 10-minutes walking distance from my house. I have a breathing, living, family with parents. I graduated high school without even trying. Why wouldn't I be happy with a high self esteem, vanity, and ego?

Now, back to the topic, spammer.
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Get on with it. Still waiting for reply.

Grav 2009-06-18 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodlookinguy (Post 675216)
Yo, I have an extremely high self esteem. I think you have the wrong person in mind. I can speak/write in three languages fluently, program in 9 programming languages fluently, and 8 other programming languages which I understand but am not yet completely fluent in. I have an ultra computer, and haves tons of free time on my hands, or off them. I have an exceptional girlfriend who lives 10-minutes walking distance from my house. I have a breathing, living, family with parents. I graduated high school without even trying. Why wouldn't I be happy with a high self esteem, vanity, and ego?

So you're spoiled and know now nothing of the harsh realities of life as SYG does. That's even worse.

Sum Yung Guy 2009-06-18 10:25 AM

To a fault.


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