Ever read the book "The Rule of Four"???

It's a book about a book more or less...the Hypnerotomachia Poliphili (WOW! Got the spellig right first time...:D...)...a book written by a scholar in the Renaissance that is full of hidden riddles and the such...kinda like the Bible?? If, and it's a very long shot, if there is such thing as the bible codes.

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Hey, I just noticed, that thread is one I started...:D...

Which Bible is it that Drosnin originally found these codes on? The original Bible that Christ's apostles wrote, or the Bible that has been defiled by thousands of retranslations?

I'm highly skeptical of Bible Codes. I always have been. They just seem to be full of shit. *shrugs* But that's me.

dsgsdhsdhsdhsdhsdhsdhdshhgshsjrtjsrkytyhnt jdtyn dty dntydn tyn ny dtyn tryj srt er gsd

According to religious experts, nobody has a letter-by-letter original of the bible. Even the oldest manuscripts have slight variations. Also, from my research, the original Torah didn't have any vowels, therefore a string of seemingly allusive letters is open for many different inerpretations.

Anyway, the bible codes are a mere coincidence. They've been found in other books as well, and I've provided pictures to them. I believed 6 months ago, as I do now, that the bible codes are a hoax. This isn't the first time that such chimerical codes have been derived from holy scripture either. The early Hebrews had developed a code known as Gematria, so this type of fanciful imagination is not to be unexpected; but that does not keep it from being merely coincidential.

Drosnin has told us that the Bible codes have been correctly able to postdict (new word) many modern historical events. I've heard that he correctly figured the evil of Hitler, the production of Hamlet, the death of Rabin, and the discovery of the comet named Swift, along with plenty of other stuff; some named by KA above. He also predicted that the comet would collide with the Earth in 2006. So if that doesn't happen, we should ignore the Bible codes completely, right? Wrong! Drosnin states that the Bible codes can not be used to correctly make predictions about the future. He says that the Bible code uncovers probablities and not definites. How convenient.

In the mathematical world and scientific world, there is almost universal denial of these codes. Rips, the man credited with discovering the code, claims that any prediction these codes make are merely coincidence. Furthermore, Dave Thomas has applied this code to the book War and Peace and has been able to correctly postdict significant events, as has Brendan Mckay when he applied these codes to Moby Dick. Statistically, these codes could be applied to just about any piece of literature, and such "codes" could be found. I provided images in the other thread, if you haven't already seen them.

In fact, Tolstoy even favored the Chicago Bull, and what do you know, Michael Jordan, in War and Peace. Dave Thomas released his report two months before the Bulls won their championship by using the code in the book.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/ac18a30738.jpg

Coincidence or prophecy? You decide.

Actually I thought he predicted it would be in 2012? Maybe I'm wrong.

According to my sources, he predicted 2006, 2010, and 2012, which seems kind of contradictory to me.

Yes, obviously the world can't be destroyed 3 times.

Really, even if there is a code, it can't be used to predict the future, since the future is constantly changing. There are many possibilities for the future.

If that is your belief, then what would be the significance of the Bible codes anyway? If what you say is true, Drosnin is simply data mining, and his computer is able to pick up on "codes" related to recent events.

I never said they are significant. Actually, they are quite insignificant. I just think it's pretty cool that whoever wrote the bible could have placed these things in it purposefully.

Well, your two statements seem kind of contradictory. You say that they are insignificant, but appear to believe that they were placed in the Bible (is it supposed to be capitalized? I don't know I'm just doing it) purposefully. Now, I could be wrong on that assumption, but that is the belief you seem to convey.

If someone purposefully put codes about Hitler thousands of years before his conception, why would they make it to be insignificant. Perhaps God, or the intellectual who created the edited version of the Torah that Drosnin worked off of, was a comical being, and only put these there to perplex us?

Furthermore, if these "codes" were put in the Torah on purpose, did Melville and Tolstoy do such things on purpose? If so, should they be considered prophets; disciples of Jesus himself, or in these cases, it it coincidence? If it's coincidence in the cases of Moby Dick and War and Peace, then why not in the Bible? It wouldn't even really be coincidence, just another case of data mining, as I stated before.

I said it could have, I never said it was or I think it was.

I don't know, I wasn't there whenever they wrote it.

Be careful. Black Jesus's come with PHDs out of the box.

I'm thrilled that you could contribute to the conversation Grav.

That's what your mom said last night

You know in school when you do cross word puzzles, and you're looking for a certain word, and you always end up finding words that aren't on the list. That's kinda what this is.

But were they put there? Probably not, if they wanted us to know the future they would have said "OMFG COMET HITTING THE EARTH, YEAR = 2012"

But they Mayans came out and said the "Earth Calendar" ends 2012.

Well, that is what made me a little less skeptical about this, because of the mayan calendar, and the whole 2012 prediction from the codes.

I watch a documentary thing about Bible codes on History channel, kind of hard to keep up with these guys, but supposively they've found like volumes of this shit and our futures. But it doesn't make sense.

You must be watching a different one then, because the two I watched were pretty well organized. They did go a bit fast, but it wasn't hard to keep up or anything.

Probably the same program, D3v is just naturally stupid.