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Demosthenes 2004-10-20 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tidus2005
well if we are gonna talk about enslavement/maltreatment then why the fuck dont we have a Jewish History month. The Jews had it 1000 times worse then black people. they were slaves for the Nazi's and if they didnt do thier jobs well enough or got sick then they were killed on the spot. I for one have not heard of any cases where a White man killed a slave just becuase he didnt get his job done well enough. Slave owners generally treated slaves with bearable conditions for the simple reason that the slave owner paid money for the slave so therefore he had value. i mean you dont just go kill all of your workers for no apparent reason when you had to make an investment into them to begin with.

However the Jews were different because Hitler didnt pay shit for them so they were not an asset to him because he could always just get more Jews for free to do slave labor.

There is a distinct difference between the Nazi enslavement of Jews, and the American (North/South America) enslavement of blacks. Now, not to say that the Jews didn't have it bad, but I do believe that blacks had it worse. Just reading about the triangle trade is excruciating. Millions of blacks were shipped across the Atlantic in unbearale conditions. They were then sold off to people who whipped them, and there are cases that I've heard of where blacks were killed. I don't think those are bearable conditions. I could go really deep into this, but I don't feel like it. I'm not saying that Jews didn't have it bad, but Africans had it just as bad at least, over a much longer period of time.

KagomJack 2004-10-20 06:11 PM

Dunno, but why don't we have Native American Indian Month?

They deserve a month.

NonGayMan 2004-10-20 06:24 PM

Every single white person on Haiti, originally called San Domingo, was killed by blacks. I'm not trying to be racist here, but it's true.

KagomJack 2004-10-20 06:25 PM

Interesting fact...I didn't know that.

NonGayMan 2004-10-20 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KagomJack
Interesting fact...I didn't know that.

It was somewhat the slave owners' fault, but not every one of them owned slaves. :(

Demosthenes 2004-10-20 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NonGayMan
Every single white person on Haiti, originally called San Domingo, was killed by blacks. I'm not trying to be racist here, but it's true.

You talking about the slave's revolution? No offense, but you enslave me and don't expect to live past the night.

Demosthenes 2004-10-20 06:31 PM

Didn't mean to post

KagomJack 2004-10-20 06:32 PM

Just like the American Revolution!

But in all seriousness: slavery was a vice used by crazy Southerners to avoid actual work. Black people deserve Black History Month, imho

Demosthenes 2004-10-20 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KagomJack
work. Black people deserve Black History Month, imho

I disagree. Every race has gone through a down-side at some point or the other. You can't give Black History Month without a month for every race.

KagomJack 2004-10-20 06:35 PM

That's true and I believe all races should have at least one month. But there's always some asshole who would oppose it (Aryan nations anyone?)

Raziel 2004-10-20 11:19 PM

Simply being shit on by another ethnic group of people is no reason for the victim ethnic group to be given a month in honor of their history. The only remaining ethnicity of people on this planet that truly deserves a month of remembrance towards their culture are the Native Americans, and that's simply because they don't have a culture to go back to.

Vollstrecker 2004-10-21 12:08 AM

No, we kindly removed that from them. Now all that is left of Native American culture is in Museums and at the occasional tribal-run casino (and that even looks pretty forced to me). Those are everywhere here in Southern California, as they're the best way for Indians to get a leg up in the world...

Raziel 2004-10-21 12:19 AM

It's the most shameful aspect of America's entire history, in my opinion. We've done a lot of shitty things, but that one trumps them all. And it was the first fucking thing we did when we got here!

Demosthenes 2004-10-21 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tidus2005
i am just wondering why there is no white history month. i mean dam there is a black history/hispanic history but there is not a white history month. White people are still the majority of the united states population so why the fuck dont we have a month??

Okay, so far I haven't really been too serious with my posts in here. I've just been posting to post. I'm actually going to reply to this topic in all seriousness, now. This is going to be blunt, but please don't be offended by it. If it comes off as offensive, that's not the intention, I'm just trying to say why I believe that we do have black history month and not a white history month and a Native American history month.

The fact of the matter is, we don't need a Native American history month, or a white history month. Like I said before, this will be blunt, but don't be offended. The truth is, many minorities hate white people. It's sad, and may not be right, but it's the truth. Now, which minority in America do you think hates white people more than anyone? The answer is obvious. Blacks.

Now, we all know that the government is run by mostly white people. Blacks obviously don't like that fact. Blacks are also currently the largest minority group in America. That fact doesn't pose well for the government. The greatest political mind in the history of mankind said (translated, of course) "A prince ought to be either feared or loved, if he can not be both." Well, by the very nature of our constitution, the people of this country can not be governed solely through fear, thus America must adjust accordingly. I believe that America introduced black history month to get some of the blacks on their side, nothing more, nothing less. It was more politics than who deserves what. So, in a way, there was a need for black history month, not out of morality or as retribution, but as politics.

So why not a Native American history month? Well, the population of Native Americans is so insignificant that they pose no real threat. They are easy to be overlooked because their voices just aren't loud enough. What about the Mexicans? Well, a lot of the Mexicans are crossing the border just to be here. Mexicans won't have any problems with the U.S. government as long as they are allowed to be here. White people, for the most part, have nothing against our government, and thus we don't need anything like a white-history month to please them. Plus, I don't think a white-history month would please white people unless it was under a colored government.

But we know that black history month is old and outdated correct? Wrong! If black history month were done away with it would cause an outcry in the black community where many of the ignorant blacks would simply claim that the government was going back to a policy of racism. When it comes to strong issues such as racism, many people, especially black I've noticed, don't want to hear reason. Unprecedented riots would be inevitable.

That's why I believe we have black history month. Whether or not it worked out that way, I don't know, but that's what I believe was the original intention of the introduction of black history month.

Raziel 2004-10-21 10:39 PM

You think that a month of Richard Pryor on Comedy Central is what's keeping the black population from revolting against the federal government?

Demosthenes 2004-10-21 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Raziel
You think that a month of Richard Pryor on Comedy Central is what's keeping the black population from revolting against the federal government?

Exactamundo!

Raziel 2004-10-21 11:08 PM

I'll never doubt the might of Richard Pryor again.


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