Zelaron Gaming Forum - 9/11 Coincidences and oddities!

I'm pretty tired of people talking about this so much these days. I've seen it on just about every forum I've been. People think this is some sick conspiracy set up by our own government. Trust me, I have no love for our government, but at the same time, I don't think that they are as twisted as to set this whole thing up. I also find it kind of irritating when these people make such websites, proving why 9/11 was set up by our government, but the physics on their page is immensely skewed. I don't understand why people would do this. Unless you have hard facts backing your claims, (D3V, I'm not directing this at you. This is to the people who made the website) this is completely disrespectful to the memory of the victims why died in this tragedy. If you want to conspire, fine, but don't lead other people into your sick, twisted plot to undermine the reputation of our government. If any of this was true, then present it, but since it's not, then that page should be taken down immediately. All that page is going to do is get people to question the legitimacy of our government. Like I said before, I dislike our current government, but that's not an excuse for deceiving everyone.

I can't say that I'm 100% sure that our government didn't set this attack up. What I can do is say I'm 99.9% sure that our government did not set this up, and I'm going to show you why I believe this, using simple reasoning, and eighth grade IPC physics.

First of all, there wouldn't be any motive for the government to set this up. If they wanted to attack the taliban, their would have been much more effective ways to persuade the populous to go along with the attack. Secondly, if this attack were set up by our government, then their would be a lot of things they would have to do. This would mean that the guards at the airport were in on this. This would mean that the airlines themselves were in on this. This would mean that the airlines were willing to sacrafice 100 million dollar planes to do this. This would also take some pre-planning on the part of the people who work at the World Trade Center. Security there would have had to have been bribed to go along with the attack, or tricked into it. Plenty of people would have to have known about it, and if that many people knew, then there most probably would have been a leak somewhere down the system. And all of this for what? No, it doesn't make sense. And all of this about the pentagon would be absurd for one major reason. If, in fact, a large plane didn't hit the pentagon, and instead it was something else, you would have to fool the witnesses. The government wouldn't have overlooked such a major possible flaw in their plot. If the government had set this up, then those "witnesses" would have never been around to provide those quotes.

Now, back to the World Trade Center. As you know, it's possible for buildings with bad architectural structure to collapse for no reason at all. It happens all the time. Now, obviously the World Trade Center's structure wasn't that bad, but it's architectural design had been brought into question way before 9/11 happend. And if buildings can collapse for no reason at all, what makes you think a gashing hole from a plane wouldn't do the trick? If you can't answer that question on your own, let me explain it to you.

I did a little research on the planes, and found out some interesting facts. These facts are essential for you to to know before you go about making claims that the planes couldn't have toppled the buildings. They were Boeing 767s. A Boeing 767 has a fuel capacity 23,980 gallons (Jesus, imagine the cost of upkeep on that thing). It has two engines. It has a PW 4062 and a GECF6-80C2B8F, both with an approximate thrust of 63,000 pounds. It cruises at about 35,000 feet. It has a cruise speed of 530 miles per hour, and a take-off weight to 450,000 pounds. It flies on Kerosene for fuel.

The amount of energy needed to get the airplane to it's cruising altitude is approximately 35.6 Megawatts. This is about the same as the power-output of a small-scale power-plant. The kinetic energy of the airplane at impact would have been 40 Megejoules. The calculation to figure that out is quite simple. Kinetic energy equals 1/2 mass times velocity squared. Plug in the numbers. That's pretty considerable. Now, this should have been enough to make the tower fall. Even though it did not cause the tower to fall, it surely did damage it.

So what did make it fall? The energy from the fuel, of course. After looking up the energy content of fuel, you find it is 1.32*10^8 joules per gallon. Multiply that by 20,000. That number is well over the energy that two million sticks of dynamite would produce. The temperature that Kerosene can burn at is 1727 degrees celcius, which would have easily melted steel, which burns at about 1570 degrees celcius.

The impact would cause everything above that point on the building to collapse. The impact force on the part of the building still standing would be about 30 times that of the weight above. No building could widthstand that. That would cause the entire tower to collapse.

As for the pentagon, I can't remember the video exaxctly. It seems to have been removed. I remember them saying something about not finding a plane. That's funny, because I remember seeing a plane their the day of the attacks. The origin of this conspiracy is from a book by Thierry Meyssan, a French author, which is called The Frightening Fraud. I don't remember much else about this theory, but I'm pretty sure it's false as well.