Well there usually is... if not you got fucked over, Death Star Airlock Tester.

as long as i got that warrantee i consider it new?? must make a lot of money??

Actually Robotic, Nintendo has announced that they are lowering the price of the Gamecube to around 100 bucks. 80 does sound a bit low, and I had no idea that the price drop had already taken effect, but it's the truth regardless.

I dunno why you're so hostile, but maybe if you settled down a moment we can discuss the issue at hand. Maybe I'm not making myself clear: my point is not only that Nintendo isn't doing us any favours with this new hardware but that a lot of people are blinded by the gadget factor. The simple fact is some 95% of the time a GBA Player + GC can only be used to play SNES (or other lesser Nintendo console) rehashes, because that's all the GBA library offers. Most people who see the image I put together say "Wow, you're right, I have a SNES in the closet and the local pawn shop has all these games for $2-5 each."


Yeah, you're totally right, classic games never die. For the most part neither does SNES hardware, and I'm not sure why you're so adamantly opposed to my suggestion that people can get better cheaper games?

Yeah, far be it from me to suggest people can save $30+ every time they feel the urge to play a game that's been out for up to ten years. What was I thinking?

Perhaps you're reading too much into this. Do you want to go grind your axe and maybe come back and start over? Whatever agenda you're following doesn't seem to have anything to do with me. All I said was "Hey, look at this, you might have overlooked the fact that all these new games are, <gasp><shock> old games re-released with lower resolution and require hardware that's twelve times more expensive than necessary." I didn't say people were stupid for doing it, I didn't say you shouldn't get the GC + player, I never said anything disparaging whatsoever about the people who DO do it. My criticism was aimed at the people who are selling it, that seems clear enough to me.

It's a single image, how much should I have put into it? It's already too wordy, you want it should have been double the size and loaded with disclaimers and clarifications, addendums and rebuttals?

I'm always hostile. Asking "why" isn't going to produce a satisfactory explanation one way or another.

That is one of the most blindly inaccurate statements I've ever read. "That's all the GBA library offers"? Have you even attempted to look at the GBA's 300+ game roster outside of the handful SNES re-releases the handheld claims? I can name a total of seven re-releases.

Super Mario Bros 1, 2 and 3
Super Mario World
Zelda: A Link To The Past
Super Ghouls and Ghosts
Donkey Kong Country

The rest of the library (aside from one or two games I might have missed) are entirely new games. A lot of sequels, yes, but games that have not been released previously. Regardless of how hard you look, regardless of how long you search, you're not going to find any more than five or six other re-releases out of the massive library the handheld boasts.

And that's a logical response to the scenario. What you're saying is that purchasing a Gamecube and GB Player is completely worthless because the only thing you can do with it is play old SNES games. And that is an absolute lie. That picture depicts a message of "Why spend 250 dollars on a Gamecube and GB Player when you can spend 20 on a used SNES, since the only actual value you'll get out of the GC/GB Player combination is playing old SNES games."

Because that's not what you're suggesting. You're suggesting that people should forego purchasing an entire console and peripheral for a cheaper, used (albeit awesome) console because they both provide the exact same service, and that's just simply untrue.

Once again, that's not what you're suggesting. You're suggesting what essentially boils down to this scenario:

A dude, sitting at home saying to himself "man, I haven't played Super Ghouls and Ghosts in a long time! Maybe I should go out and spend $250 dollars on a console and peripheral that will allow me to play it!"

The only other available scenario is that the person already owns a Gamecube and Gameboy Player and says to themself "Hey, I haven't played Super Ghouls and Ghosts in a long time, I'll go spend 30 dollars so I can play it!" I agree with you that in this scenario the person should go to the nearest Funcoland and pick up the old SNES game, but if they don't already own the console, what's the point? The cost will only be a 5 to 10 dollar difference in the end, and if they buy the GBA version they have the option of portability.

Do you understand what I'm getting at now. If you had made the comparison between just buying the GB Player Peripheral or a GBA SP to buying a used SNES, that would have been a little more reasonable. But including the Gamecube in the picture is plain idiocy. It's almost understandable to imagine that someone would go out and buy a GB Player specifically for the purpose of playing old SNES games, but it's not reasonable to assume that someone would buy a Gamecube, GB Player and 3rd party controller all specifically for the purpose of playing strictly SNES games. That 250 dollar price comparison isn't accurate, and it doesn't really make a ton of sense either.