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[00:22] System: WetWired has joined the chat
[00:22] WetWired: I try to do as much as I can with divs. Sometimes, you just need tables for stuff to align. Divs have no concept of what's left or right and letting columns grow separately
[00:24] WetWired: The terrible thing about divs is there's no way to force a div's box to completely contain its contents in the document structure. The only thing that's inpenetrable in HTML is the all-mighty TD/TH.
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[11:05] System: Mantralord has joined the chat
[11:07] Mantralord: i hate html, why cant we just design webpages like winforms
[11:07] Mantralord: you know just stick an autosize box here and there and BAM done
[11:09] Mantralord: wait i bet django or ruby on rails or whatever has already thought of something like this
[11:09] Mantralord: i don't even know exactly what they do but just the term "web framework" gives it away
[11:09] Mantralord: i'm like 99% sure this is what they do
[11:10] Mantralord: but ruby is so awful who designed that piece of shit
[11:10] Mantralord: oh the JAPS, of course
[11:10] Mantralord: they screw up everything
[11:11] Mantralord: python also looks horrible who designed that shit
[11:15] Mantralord: lua looks pretty nice though
[11:16] System: Willkillforfood has joined the chat
[11:16] Willkillforfood: quiet you man whore
[11:19] Willkillforfood: nice, I kept a 3.5 despite doing horribly this semester!
[11:29] Mantralord: mmm willkill
[11:29] Mantralord: i like what i see
[11:30] Mantralord: saw your pic in the member pics thread
[11:30] Mantralord: you are lookin great
[11:30] Mantralord: you look good enough for a poke
[12:01] System: KagomJack has joined the chat
[12:01] KagomJack: I'm never good enough for you, Mantra. :(
[12:03] Willkillforfood: :(
[12:03] Willkillforfood: Mantra doesn't put his dingaling in just any poop hole
[12:03] Willkillforfood: you just didn't make the cut
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[12:07] Willkillforfood: YEA BEST LEAVE NIGGA
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[12:08] System: KagomJack has joined the chat
[12:08] KagomJack: Fuck you WKFF :(
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[12:58] System: Lenny has joined the chat
[12:58] Lenny: // sometimes I can't help but think that the compiler ignores all of my comments
[13:00] System: WetWired has joined the chat
[13:00] WetWired: Funny
[13:00] WetWired: What goes?
[13:01] Lenny: Hmmm?
[13:01] WetWired: What's happening?
[13:01] Lenny: Is "What goes?" American for "How are things?"?
[13:02] Lenny: Should've known!
[13:02] Lenny: Not much - revising for my exams.
[13:02] WetWired: It's a terse way of saying "What is going on?"
[13:02] Lenny: Going down to the bar for the weekly Pub Quiz soon. And then back to revision. Yay.
[13:02] Lenny: Yourself?
[13:03] WetWired: Working on WAR add-ons as usual
[13:03] WetWired: Writing a configuration interface for one of my popular ones
[13:05] Lenny: And which popular one is it for?
[13:05] WetWired: Miracle Grow Remix, a replacement for the (horrible) default interface for cultivation
[13:05] WetWired: (cultivation grows herbs for apothecary)
[13:07] Lenny: http­://­war­.­curse­.­com­/­downloads­/­war­-­a­...­s­/­mgremix­.­aspx That one?
[13:07] WetWired: Yes
[13:08] Lenny: Cool. Which language do you write them in?
[13:08] WetWired: lua and xml
[13:10] Lenny: I've heard some good things about LUA, but I've never got round to using it. One of my friends uses it for custom user interfaces on Arch Linux, I think.
[13:11] WetWired: Not a fan myself, but it's the only option
[13:12] Lenny: Fair enough. How's it compare to other languages?
[13:12] WetWired: It's pretty odd
[13:13] Lenny: How so?
[13:13] WetWired: It's supposed to be designed so a non-programmer can understand it, but it's really complex. A bad mix, if you ask me.
[13:17] Lenny: I see little point in designing languages so that non-programmers can understand them. Generally, the only people who are going to look at the code are going to be programmers, or people with experience in programming.
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[13:19] System: jamer123 has joined the chat
[13:19] jamer123: hi
[13:19] Lenny: Howdy.
[13:20] jamer123: have you ever heard of the space flight simulator orbitor
[13:20] Lenny: Can't say I have, no. Is it any good?
[13:21] jamer123: ya you can make crafts for it too .... ive downloaded a lot from yesterfay
[13:22] Lenny: Cool.
[13:22] jamer123: it even look kinda real too
[13:23] Lenny: Nice. Are the physics decent?
[13:23] jamer123: yes ....... theres one ship that can modify the gravity
[13:25] Lenny: As in within the ship? Artificial gravity and all that for the astronauts?
[13:25] jamer123: yes
[13:25] jamer123: though its just the ship
[13:26] System: WetWired has joined the chat
[13:27] Lenny: Fair enough. You ought to watch 2001: A Space Odyssey if you haven't already - there are some interesting ships in it.
[13:27] Lenny: And now I must go - tables usually disappear quickly on quiz night.
[13:27] jamer123: probly someones allready made the mods for it\
[13:28] System: Lenny has left the chat
[13:29] jamer123: hey ww interested in a space flight sim
[13:29] WetWired: No
[13:29] jamer123: ok
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[16:22] System: jamer123 has joined the chat
[16:22] jamer123: ok this one website got on my nerves really badly ....... i got banned for no real reason and its a perm ban'
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[21:33] System: Skurai has joined the chat
[21:33] Skurai: Owned.
[21:38] System: Goodlookinguy has joined the chat
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[21:38] Goodlookinguy: WetWired, I found a problem on the site. If you go and view the recent chatbox messages page, click on usercp and it takes you to http­://­zelaron­.­com­/­usercp­.­php Same thing happens with new posts, faqs, member list, etc.
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[22:54] System: WetWired has joined the chat
[22:54] WetWired: Not for me...
[22:54] System: WetWired has left the chat
[23:11] System: Goodlookinguy has joined the chat
[23:11] Goodlookinguy: How so?
[23:12] Goodlookinguy: It's a link problem, not a browser problem.
[23:12] Goodlookinguy: Tested in IE8 and Chrome.
[23:15] Goodlookinguy: Oh hey, it's fixed now.
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