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[17:31] Lenny: Separate, really?
[17:31] Chruser: Chat Forum being... what?
[17:31] Yawgmoth: I say we remodel it into an unmoderated free zone
[17:31] Lenny: "Light Discussion".
[17:31] Yawgmoth: Chat Forum would be light discussion
[17:31] Chruser: I wouldn't mind making the Chat Forum a sub-forum of light discussion.
[17:32] Chruser: Or even going as far as to merge them.
[17:32] Lenny: Not completely un-moderated - we need to allow mods to move in a destroy the spam.
[17:32] Chruser: Yes, no more useless, short posts for activity, boo-hoo.
[17:32] Yawgmoth: Flaming, spam, what's the difference?
[17:32] Lenny: Merge chat and light discussion? They're one and the same to me.
[17:32] Yawgmoth: In my suggestion I replaced all previous talk-forums with two new ones
[17:32] Lenny: There's a big one, Yawg. Find some of Raziel's old flames, and then compare them to current ones.
[17:33] HandOfHeaven: I suppose a 'Duck Soup' is out of the question?
[17:33] Chruser: Okay.
[17:34] Yawgmoth: I say we have all specializations, like Flame Forum, life discussion, etc. to be sub-forums of the two "big ones"
[17:34] Chruser: * Merge "Chat Forum" with "Light Discussion".
[17:34] Lenny: I agree with thatm, Yawg. And you, Chruser.
[17:34] Chruser: * Make "Flame Forum" a sub-forum of "Light Discussion".
[17:34] Chruser: Any objections?
[17:34] Yawgmoth: Would Flames be serious or light?
[17:35] Yawgmoth: They can be taken either way
[17:35] Lenny: It's an interesting idea, and it makes sense, Chruser.
[17:35] Lenny: I'd say Light.
[17:35] Lenny: Just a gut reaction, really.
[17:35] HandOfHeaven: Light. It's fighting over the internet...
[17:36] Yawgmoth: It's the lighter side of debate I'd guess?
[17:36] Chruser: Okay.
[17:36] Chruser: Roo... Oh, nevermind.
[17:36] Chruser: World Record Thread.
[17:36] Yawgmoth: lighter as in less serious, not brighter although flames tend to be bright..
[17:36] Lenny: Sub-forum of Light.
[17:36] Yawgmoth: It doesn't need to take up so much space
[17:36] Chruser: Sub-forum (text link) of light discussion.
[17:37] Yawgmoth: Why not just a sticky thread?
[17:37] Lenny: Because posts in it don't count towards post count.
[17:37] Chruser: It follows special forum rules, not counting toward your post count.
[17:37] Chruser: If WW would code some special application, sure.
[17:37] Yawgmoth: Alltight, textlink under Light Discussion
[17:38] Chruser: Conversation Forum.
[17:38] Chruser: Merge with "Serious Discussion".
[17:38] Yawgmoth: Renamed Serious Discussion
[17:38] Yawgmoth: Well, yes
[17:38] Lenny: Yep.
[17:38] Chruser: You have 8 seconds to object.
[17:39] Yawgmoth: Go on already
[17:39] Chruser: As for NWO, don't mind that.
[17:39] Yawgmoth: Test Forum?
[17:39] Chruser: Test Forum.
[17:39] Lenny: What exactly is it?
[17:39] Lenny: Test forum.
[17:39] Lenny: Sub of "Forum news, discussoions and suggestions"?
[17:39] Chruser: NWO... No-one knows.
[17:39] Lenny: And what is NWO?
[17:39] Chruser: I agree.
[17:40] Lenny: If it's a bit of light fun, then I'd make it a sub-forum under "Light Discussion".
[17:40] Yawgmoth: It could be a simple textlink of Forum News and Discussion
[17:40] Chruser: * "Test Forum" will be a sub-forum (text link) of "Forum News and Discussion".
[17:40] Chruser: Style Test Forums will follow.
[17:40] Lenny: And that's all before the gaming forums, right?
[17:40] Yawgmoth: Split The Basement into two - Zelaron Gaming and The Basement?
[17:41] Lenny: Before that, can we ask Chruser to just post what's been decided in the thread?
[17:41] Lenny: Before that, can we ask Chruser to just post what's been decided in the thread?
[17:41] Chruser: Sure, I have the changelog rather than the final forum layout.
[17:42] Lenny: BRB
[17:42] Yawgmoth: Replace General Gaming, Diablo 2, Starcraft 2, Computer Games and MMOs, Console Games and System (and their subforums) with Digital Gaming with the necessary sub-forums?
[17:43] System: Lenny has left the chat
[17:43] Chruser: http­://­zelaron­.­com­/­forum­/­showthread­....­472­#­post640472
[17:43] Chruser: Hmm, let's give Lenny 2 minutes.
[17:44] Chruser: Then we'll decide the FATE OF ZELARON on our own.
[17:44] System: KagomJack has joined the chat
[17:44] Chruser: As for dividing "The Basement" into "The Basement" and "Zelaron Gaming", I am in favor.
[17:44] Chruser: Hi Kagom.
[17:45] KagomJack: whoa
[17:45] KagomJack: fuck
[17:45] KagomJack: Hey Chruser
[17:45] System: Lenny has joined the chat
[17:45] Chruser: Welcome back, Lenny.
[17:45] Lenny: Sorry - everything's running slowly for me atm.
[17:46] Chruser: Kagom, what's up?
[17:46] Lenny: Yeah, separate Gaming from the Basement - I'm in favour.
[17:46] System: KagomJack has left the chat
[17:46] HandOfHeaven: Sorry, I must be leaving
[17:46] System: KagomJack has joined the chat
[17:46] KagomJack: Nada, give me a sec
[17:46] HandOfHeaven: Kickoff is in 1 minute
[17:47] KagomJack: Das gefällt mir besser :x
[17:47] Chruser: Take care, HoH?
[17:47] Chruser: -? +.
[17:47] HandOfHeaven: Ha, I may pop in every once in awhile, but the US and Argentina just started
[17:47] HandOfHeaven: Peace
[17:48] Lenny: See ya, HoH.
[17:48] Yawgmoth: So, separate Gaming from Basement
[17:48] Lenny: And good luck to the US team!
[17:48] Lenny: Yep.
[17:48] Yawgmoth: Turn all gaming forums into four new forums: Digital Gaming, Traditional Gaming, Game Culture and Misc, Game Design and Theory?
[17:48] System: HandOfHeaven has left the chat
[17:49] Lenny: I'm not sure about "Traditional Gaming". You mean pen and paper games and board games, right?
[17:49] Yawgmoth: Yes, I think it could be worth a try
[17:49] KagomJack: That'd be my guess :o
[17:49] Lenny: In four years I've never seen a thread concerning them.
[17:49] Yawgmoth: I mean all non-digital games, card games, board games, pen and paper, dices, soccer?
[17:50] Lenny: Ah, now I'd keep Sports out of Gaming.
[17:50] Lenny: They're completely different.
[17:50] Yawgmoth: Are they?
[17:50] Lenny: They're not "Games", really.
[17:50] Lenny: They're not "Games", really.
[17:50] Yawgmoth: Well, yes the culture surrounding the gaming sub-genre of sport-games is very different.
[17:51] Yawgmoth: Yes, they are.
[17:51] Lenny: I'd put them as a sub-forum to something in the Basement.
[17:51] Yawgmoth: But as the culture is very different, I agree that they do not mix
[17:51] Yawgmoth: I personally wouldn't care if we removed the sports forum
[17:51] Chruser: I am in favor of keeping the four main gaming forums for now, for the sake of discussion. If particular categories become redundant, we can remove them.
[17:52] Chruser: (The four ones which Yawgmoth suggested)
[17:52] Lenny: We don't actually have a dedicated Sports section, to be honest. =P
[17:52] Yawgmoth: Entertainment and SPorts
[17:52] Lenny: Yeah, I'd agree to that.
[17:52] Lenny: I could've sworn it was just Entertainment!
[17:53] Lenny: I'll be damned.
[17:53] Yawgmoth: Poker and stuff would fall under traditional games as well
[17:53] Yawgmoth: If there is interest, we could keep a sport-games forum somewhere
[17:53] Chruser: * Create four main gaming forums under "Zelaron Gaming": "Digital Gaming", "Traditional Gaming", "Game Culture" and "Misc, Game Design and Theory".
[17:53] Yawgmoth: What subforums do we keep?
[17:53] Chruser: Okay, let's go through the list.
[17:53] Lenny: If the "Traditional Gaming" forum doesn't say a lot of activity after two months, I'd suggest keeping it as a sub-forum of something.
[17:54] Chruser: Fair enough, Lenny.
[17:54] Chruser: Okay. General Gaming.
[17:54] Yawgmoth: I say Diablo 2 under Digital Gaming and RPGMaker of Game Design and THeory.
[17:54] Chruser: Merge with Digital Gaming.
[17:54] Lenny: Yep.
[17:54] Lenny: To both of you.
[17:55] Chruser: * Merge "General Gaming" with "Digital Gaming".
[17:55] Yawgmoth: Starcraft 2 - merge with digital gaming until release of Starcraft 2?
[17:55] Chruser: Diablo 2 as a visible sub-forum of Digital Gaming?
[17:55] Chruser: With additional sub-forums of Diablo 2 as text links?
[17:55] Lenny: D2 as a visible sub-forum, yeah.
[17:55] Yawgmoth: Yes
[17:56] Lenny: Starcraft 2 as maybe just a text-link under something until release.
[17:56] Lenny: Rather than merging it.
[17:56] Yawgmoth: It is not big enough to warrant being separate, if there is a rush of Starcraft 2 interest - create a subforum?
[17:57] Yawgmoth: Gaming Cons - merge with Game Culture and Misc?
[17:57] Chruser: I suggest keeping Starcraft 2 as a visible sub-forum for a while, which would show it as important.
[17:57] Lenny: I agree with the Gaming Cons suggestion.
[17:57] Chruser: I think it's somewhat of a long-shot, but I'm willing to take it for a while.
[17:57] Yawgmoth: Okay, keep Starcraft 2
[17:57] Lenny: But we need prefixes to show the Con news is from different cons!
[17:58] Yawgmoth: Computer Games and MMOs with subforum and Console Games and Systems with subforums - merge with Digital Gaming?
[17:58] Yawgmoth: You would just need to specify the con in the title of each thread
[17:59] Lenny: Merge the Games and MMOs, but keep consoles separate (or at least use prefixes).
[17:59] Yawgmoth: GENCON news would probably mention GENCON in their title
[17:59] Lenny: That's what I do atm, Yawg, but I'm intrigued by the Prefix system. :p
[17:59] Yawgmoth: Why should console be separate?
[17:59] Chruser: Hold on.
[17:59] Chruser: What's the consensus for Computer games and MMO's?
[17:59] Lenny: I just think they should, OR have prefixes.
[18:00] Lenny: Merge with Digital, I think.
[18:00] Chruser: Merge with digital gaming altogether?
[18:00] Chruser: Hmm.
[18:00] Yawgmoth: I would like to semi-rush this as this frail body needs sleep
[18:00] Chruser: It is fairly popular.
[18:00] Chruser: Very well, merge.
[18:00] Yawgmoth: Create sub-forums as needed?
[18:01] Chruser: WoW?
[18:01] Chruser: I suggest we create a Diablo II-esque sub-forum for WoW, under Digital Gaming.
[18:01] Lenny: Tex-link sub-forum under Digital Gaming?
[18:01] Yawgmoth: I think it would be best to first minimize the amount forums to a semi-minimum and then add new sub-forums and the like as the need arises
[18:01] Chruser: It's probably more important than StarCraft II as-is.
[18:02] Chruser: FINE.
[18:02] Yawgmoth: WoW is popular and Zelaron seems to love BLizzard, so visible link
[18:02] Lenny: Do we get as many WoW threads as D2 threads?
[18:02] Yawgmoth: The WoW forum is not as visible though
[18:02] Lenny: Do we get as many WoW threads as D2 threads?
[18:03] Yawgmoth: WoW is one of the most popular games in the world, a visible subforum (like Diablo 2's)
[18:03] Chruser: No, but as Yawgmoth said, it's not as notable.
[18:03] Chruser: I agree.
[18:03] Chruser: Visible sub-forum of Digital Gaming.
[18:03] Lenny: Sorry - lag.
[18:03] Yawgmoth: If we make it more visible, maybe we'd attract some WoWers
[18:03] Yawgmoth: Maybe some stupid Zelaron guild
[18:03] Lenny: I suppose.
[18:04] Chruser: Let's try it for a while. Then we'll have three visible Blizzard games.
[18:04] Lenny: =P
[18:04] Chruser: Console Games and Systems.
[18:04] Yawgmoth: General Blizzard Discussion Sub-Forum?
[18:04] Lenny: I wonder if they'll pay us for advertising?
[18:04] Lenny: LAG BE DAMNED!!
[18:04] Chruser: Sub-forum of digital gaming.
[18:04] Yawgmoth: Merge all console stuff with Digital Gaming
[18:04] Chruser: Prefixes for sysyem?
[18:04] Chruser: system*
[18:05] Lenny: Prefixes, yes.
[18:05] Yawgmoth: Sure, but optional
[18:05] Chruser: Fair enough.
[18:05] Chruser: RPGMaker.
[18:05] Lenny: Game Design visible sub.
[18:05] Chruser: Sub-forum of "Misc, Game Design and Theory".
[18:05] Yawgmoth: Subforum (visble?) of Game Design and Theory
[18:05] Chruser: Agreed.
[18:06] Yawgmoth: Misc is a part of Game Culture though
[18:06] Yawgmoth: not Game Design and Theory

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