| [04:14] System: Lenny
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| [04:14] Lenny:
You believe that I think they don't already? |
| [04:15] Lenny:
The important point is that Google don't sell their information - they'd be selling things to their competition that could hurt them. |
| [04:16] Lenny:
They also publicly refuse requests for information from governments quite regularly. |
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| [06:15] System: Skurai
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| [06:15] Skurai:
Publicly they may refuse, but do they actually refuse? There is a difference. |
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| [09:22] Lenny:
Er... yeah: http://www.google.com/transparencyre...nmentrequests/ |
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| [15:18] jamer123:
they refuse alot of info ... those that arent are because of a warrent for the info |
| [15:18] jamer123:
and only 5000 people in a certian time frame ... those are from crimes ... not for personal gain |
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| [17:13] System: !King_Amazon!
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| [17:13] !King_Amazon!:
I don't really care whether Google is benefitting from giving out my info, if they are collecting info on me and giving it out to someone even to prosecute me for a crime, I'd rather use another service that isn't doing that to me |
| [17:14] !King_Amazon!:
Before long doing something as simple as googling the word "torrent" may end up putting you on a watch list or something |
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| [17:49] System: Lenny
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| [17:49] Lenny:
It's US law that any company that collects information on people must submit it if presented with a warrant. |
| [17:49] Lenny:
The only way to win is not to take part in the Internet at all. |
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| [17:55] !King_Amazon!:
Or use a service that isn't based in the US |
| [17:55] !King_Amazon!:
If The Pirate Bay were to start their own google-esque search engine, e-mail service, etc. I'd switch to it over Google in a heartbeat |
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