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[00:10] System: KagomJack has joined the chat
[00:10] KagomJack: It's highly retarded.
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[10:25] System: !King_Amazon! has joined the chat
[10:25] !King_Amazon!: They are raising both food sales tax and gas tax here in Utah. It's really brilliant, since gas is already going up, why not add fuel to the fire by taxing it more heavily? And since everyone has plenty of money and can afford it no problem, let's just hike up the food sales tax after working so hard to lower it years ago
[10:25] !King_Amazon!: I want to know how the conservatives are going to justify the war on the lower-middle class
[10:29] System: D3V has joined the chat
[10:29] D3V: I don't understand why they would even try to pass it, they know it's going to get rejected.
[10:30] D3V: Well, hopefully it will. Then again, our politicans are all asshole scumbags only interested in their own well-being.
[10:32] !King_Amazon!: http­://­www­.­stansberryresearch­.­com­/­pr­...­VD­/­OPSIM311­/­PR
[10:32] !King_Amazon!: lolwut?
[10:32] D3V: We need to start organizing to throw out our congressman. I'm telling you. It's going to happen here too. If the Tea Party would just open their eyes and fuel the fire with legitmate issues on their posters and not what they've been spoonfed from the Michelle Bachmans of the world.
[10:34] D3V: watching now.
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[10:38] System: !King_Amazon! has joined the chat
[10:38] !King_Amazon!: the guy is pretty retarded
[10:38] D3V: He had me for a little bit.
[10:38] !King_Amazon!: at one point he says that we can't run out of money because we can just print more money to pay off our debts to governments of the world
[10:38] !King_Amazon!: YAAAAA
[10:39] D3V: hmmm.
[10:39] D3V: "even if 100% of americans were taxed all of their income, it still wouldnt be enough to balance the budget"
[10:39] D3V: well no fucking shit, it's been that way forever.
[10:40] D3V: and we aren't falling apart now.
[10:40] !King_Amazon!: that's because we spend a stupid amount on defense
[10:40] !King_Amazon!: we could probably fix the deficit by spending half as much on defense
[10:40] D3V: agreed. It's like 1/8th of our total budget or something?
[10:40] !King_Amazon!: http­://­en­.­wikipedia­.­org­/­wiki­/­List_of­...­y_expenditures
[10:40] D3V: it's an outstanding amount of money.
[10:41] D3V: holy fuck.
[10:41] !King_Amazon!: lol
[10:41] !King_Amazon!: yeah
[10:41] !King_Amazon!: it's ridiculous
[10:41] D3V: okay, he's at the point where he's saying we can just keep printing money.
[10:42] D3V: I think he has somewhat of a point. I mean they have been printing more money than what it's worth.
[10:42] !King_Amazon!: if we print more money we just devalue our money
[10:43] !King_Amazon!: our "money" is not paper but gold, silver, etc
[10:43] !King_Amazon!: unless we can figure out a way to print gold, it's hocus pocus hoodoo magic
[10:43] D3V: oh yeah, of course. I mean what he's saying though is basically we can rig the system, essentially.
[10:43] !King_Amazon!: LOL
[10:43] !King_Amazon!: how did I know it was an anti-obama video
[10:43] !King_Amazon!: he's bashing socialism
[10:44] !King_Amazon!: rigging the system only works for so long
[10:44] D3V: haha I haven't gotten there yet, i'm listening to it in the background.
[10:44] !King_Amazon!: it is largely why we are where we are right now
[10:44] D3V: right. But the debate is whether it was necessary or not?
[10:44] !King_Amazon!: If we want to live beyond our means and ruin our childrens future, sure
[10:45] !King_Amazon!: I mean, who cares right? We'll be dead anyway, and someone else will have to deal with it
[10:45] D3V: lol.
[10:46] D3V: /sigh
[10:46] D3V: this video is boring me now.
[10:47] !King_Amazon!: yeah he needs to shut his whore mouth
[10:47] !King_Amazon!: he does make at least one good point, if oil is no longer traded in US dollars, our oil prices will skyrocket
[10:47] !King_Amazon!: we'll be paying $6/gallon like in the UK
[10:48] !King_Amazon!: and that has a butterfly effect on the rest of the economy
[10:48] D3V: I should've stopped when I heard: "I don't want to scare you, but very, very soon you won't be able to live life as you have known your whole life". "The price of milk, gas, everything will go up, most americans won't know what to do when their credit cards won't work"
[10:48] D3V: He's a fucking moron. It's called exchange rate.
[10:48] D3V: even if we paid in their currency, it would just translate the same.
[10:48] !King_Amazon!: not really
[10:48] !King_Amazon!: because other countries buy oil with US dollars
[10:48] !King_Amazon!: which means they have to buy the dollars from us first
[10:49] !King_Amazon!: it gives our money more inherent value
[10:49] !King_Amazon!: it is largely why we pay half as much for gas as anyone else in the world, really
[10:49] !King_Amazon!: but these things have nothing to do with socialism or any of the bullshit he starts talking about after that
[10:50] D3V: well
[10:50] D3V: yeah I don't know where that rant randomly came from.
[10:52] !King_Amazon!: he basically said that oil used to be valued in pounds sterling UK, and the UK went all socialist and collapsed so they lost their power over the oil
[10:52] !King_Amazon!: funny, the UK is not a third-world country right now
[10:52] !King_Amazon!: they seem to be just fine
[10:53] D3V: right. they are actually very stable.
[10:53] !King_Amazon!: haha
[10:53] !King_Amazon!: you get an annoying pop-up when you try to leave the page
[10:53] !King_Amazon!: awesome
[10:53] D3V: this guy is just lolmad about something
[10:53] D3V: Haha I seen that too, I was like WTF
[10:53] !King_Amazon!: what a douchebag
[10:53] D3V: of course there would be a popup being like R U SURE U WANA LEAVE
[10:54] D3V: who is that guy?
[10:54] !King_Amazon!: no idea, I heard him on the radio this morning talking about his website so I checked it out
[10:54] !King_Amazon!: I wish I hadn't
[10:55] D3V: lmao
[10:55] D3V: what caught me off guard is that if he's this huge invetment advice company founder, why the hell is he making youtube type videos
[10:56] D3V: http­://­upload­.­wikimedia­.­org­/­wikipedi­...­56eb9d6d90­.­png i like this chart, pretty fucking ridiculous
[10:56] D3V: thanks republicans, goddamnit.
[10:58] D3V: I wanna find a tea party forum.
[10:59] !King_Amazon!: yeah
[10:59] !King_Amazon!: fuck stupid people
[10:59] !King_Amazon!: We should be spending 2-3x china, not 6x+
[10:59] D3V: I had a gun argument with a coworker for about 25 minutes it was insane. I'm surprised I subjected to trying to persuade him.
[11:00] !King_Amazon!: I have more trouble with gun debates than any other
[11:00] !King_Amazon!: because I'm kinda torn
[11:00] !King_Amazon!: I don't like people having the ability to mass-murder crowds of people, but at the same time, I don't think disarming the citizens of a country is a good way to keep the government in line
[11:00] !King_Amazon!: I mean, any dictatorship, the first thing they do is take away guns
[11:00] !King_Amazon!: they don't want people to be able to rebel
[11:01] D3V: right. I mean thats why it was written to protect the people from gov tryranny.
[11:01] !King_Amazon!: at the same time though, we probably couldn't fight them anyway
[11:01] !King_Amazon!: S.W.A.T is pretty much just military intended for use on civilians
[11:01] D3V: I guess it's really an impossible argument at this point.
[11:02] !King_Amazon!: I really dunno how to turn this bus around at this point
[11:02] !King_Amazon!: I tend more toward GTFO
[11:02] D3V: Right, we live in different times now. It wouldn't matter even if we were well-armed if they wanted to police-state us and turn us into slaves or whatever they wanted to do, we'd basially have to deal with it. I think power of the people though would overrule anything like that ever happening.
[11:02] !King_Amazon!: I think this ship is gonna sink and I don't wanna be on it when it happens
[11:02] D3V: yeah but if the bus goes below 50 we all explode and die.
[11:03] !King_Amazon!: yeah
[11:03] !King_Amazon!: exactly
[11:03] !King_Amazon!: we need keanu to save us
[11:03] D3V: we do. I'm thinking bill & ted would do. bring george carlin back.
[11:03] !King_Amazon!: it would be funny if "God" were made up of all of Keanu's characters
[11:03] !King_Amazon!: like Neo
[11:03] D3V: LOL
[11:04] !King_Amazon!: so a Keanu army saved the day
[11:04] D3V: Neo, Ted, him from Speed. hell even bring in constantine
[11:05] !King_Amazon!: http­://­www­.­noahmallin­.­com­/­wp­-­content­...­r_darkly_1­.­jpg
[11:05] !King_Amazon!: that guy
[11:05] D3V: I'd be okay with Keaneu Reeves being God.
[11:05] !King_Amazon!: he has been in a lot of movies
[11:05] !King_Amazon!: http­://­en­.­wikipedia­.­org­/­wiki­/­Keanu_Reeves
[11:05] !King_Amazon!: if any actor is God it's probably Morgan Freeman though
[11:06] D3V: well he's already been God though.
[11:06] D3V: I mean he did cheat on his wife witha younger woman and got divorced and with the new chick, so that kinda reminds me of the Bible
[11:06] D3V: the old testament tho
[11:07] D3V: maybe God is a female
[11:07] !King_Amazon!: probably
[11:08] D3V: http­://­www­.­cnn­.­com­/­2011­/­SHOWBIZ­/­03­/­0­...­ex­.­html­?­hpt­=­C2
[11:09] D3V: http­://­baracko­.­blogspot­.­com­/­2007­/­05­/...­n­-­endorse­.­html
[11:10] !King_Amazon!: lol
[11:10] !King_Amazon!: nice
[11:11] D3V: where do you think is a better place to move
[11:11] D3V: sweden or canada?
[11:11] !King_Amazon!: I've been thinking Sweden myself
[11:11] !King_Amazon!: Canada is going to get infected by us soon enough
[11:12] !King_Amazon!: either one is probably better than here, though
[11:12] D3V: yeah, i've got a pair of distant relatives in Sweden and intermediate family that's been there it seems like a wonderful place.
[11:13] D3V: but Canada isn't too bad either, it's really like a McUnited States, like US jr.
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[11:15] !King_Amazon!: I just don't think Canada is far enough away
[11:15] !King_Amazon!: Sweden has Europe to offer, too
[11:15] !King_Amazon!: take a train to amsterdam for the weekend
[11:16] D3V: they seem to have so much less stress than our people od.
[11:22] D3V: Joe Rogan for president: http­://­www­.­youtube­.­com­/­watch­?­v­=­52mW5­...­eature­=­related
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[17:35] System: Mdselctr has joined the chat
[17:35] Mdselctr: AIDS.
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