Chatbox log - 2009-06-09 - Zelaron Gaming Forum

[11:36] D3V: baddabing, sounds like a good idea. The autobahn's rate of accidents is like fractions of our highways over here, and they have no speed limit.

[11:36] !King_Amazon!: sometimes it seems like our legal system really lacks common sense, though

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[11:36] Chruser: "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age 18." - Albert Einstein

[11:36] D3V: but I get your point.

[11:36] !King_Amazon!: I mean, I can pull up to a stop sign at 3 in the morning

[11:36] !King_Amazon!: nobody in sight

[11:37] !King_Amazon!: and if I don't come to a complete stop, a cop can pull me over

[11:37] D3V: nobody around ..

[11:37] D3V: yeah.

[11:37] !King_Amazon!: it's BS

[11:37] D3V: I think victimless crimes should be eliminated.

[11:38] D3V: Suicide should be legal. What right does a country have to say somebody shouldn't be able to kill themselves?

[11:38] !King_Amazon!: Every day it seems like some progress is made

[11:38] !King_Amazon!: but at the same time some ground is lost

[11:38] Senesia: Chruser, what's the rule for speeding in Sweden

[11:38] !King_Amazon!: I used to agree with you about suicide, but I don't know

[11:38] !King_Amazon!: having had some brushes with it myself

[11:38] D3V: It's because the gap in the middle is shrinking between idiots and the general common sense people.

[11:38] !King_Amazon!: almost exclusively, people who want to kill themselves are temporarily insane

[11:39] Chruser: Senesia, the definition of it, or the imposed limits?

[11:39] D3V: my point is that the government shouldn't have a say in it, really.

[11:39] !King_Amazon!: and incapable of making that decision

[11:39] !King_Amazon!: I think if someone can say consistently for a month straight that they want ot die, they should be allowed

[11:39] !King_Amazon!: But that's not a good thing to decide spur-of-the-moment

[11:39] D3V: well yeah I agree.

[11:39] !King_Amazon!: Looking back on every time I've been close to suicide, I'm glad I didn't do it

[11:40] Senesia: limits

[11:40] D3V: I'm just saying though, still, the government should have no say in it. I could honestly care less if somebody wants to kill themselves, I have no sympathy.

[11:40] D3V: Yeah.

[11:40] Senesia: The limits, Chruser.

[11:41] !King_Amazon!: I'm basically for removing victimless crimes but increasing penalties for making them no longer harmless

[11:41] !King_Amazon!: like if you get high and it causes you to get in an accident

[11:41] !King_Amazon!: There are times where victimless crimes are no longer victimless

[11:41] !King_Amazon!: like if you smoke all day and neglect your kids

[11:41] !King_Amazon!: or you endanger your family/friends

[11:41] !King_Amazon!: etc.

[11:42] !King_Amazon!: I'm not naive enough to think pot is completely harmless

[11:42] D3V: well obviously, but that's an entirely different rule.

[11:42] Chruser: Some roads allow legal speeds of up to 120 kph (74.5645431 mph). Any speed above that will result in a fine if caught. If you exceed the speed limit by 30 kph (18.6411358 mph) or more, you lose your driver's license.

[11:42] D3V: laws apply to ones self, not others.

[11:42] D3V: if you smoke pot and your life is wasted away it's your own lifes loss, not another. = victimless

[11:42] !King_Amazon!: lol, I go 20 over on a daily basis

[11:42] D3V: if you smoke pot and have 5 kids and theyre all malnurished then you are committing child abuse which IS a crime, victims involved.

[11:42] !King_Amazon!: I work in the industrial area of salt lake, though

[11:43] !King_Amazon!: no coppers out here

[11:43] D3V: they should, like you said, just make the punishments more harsh.

[11:43] Chruser: The maximum fine is 4000 SEK (519 USD), although you can go to prison for "severe" speeding.

[11:44] Senesia: I use km/h as well.

[11:44] Chruser: What bothers me is the speed limit signs in Denmark. They state things like "80 km". WTF?

[11:44] Senesia: When you said some roads, are you talking about roads, or highways/speedways?

[11:45] Senesia: Who cares about Denmark

[11:45] Chruser: Highways are typically 110 km/h. The addition of 120 km/h roads is kind of recent.

[11:45] Senesia: That's not too bad.

[11:46] Senesia: In here most highways are 80km/h.

[11:46] D3V: mwaaahhhhhh

[11:46] Senesia: And basically everyone speeds.

[11:46] Senesia: Normal roads are 50km/h.

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[11:47] Chruser: It's kind of difficult to get a driver's license over here, but unfortunately it's not very difficult to maintain it.

[11:47] Chruser: Elderly people are generally very poor drivers.

[11:48] !King_Amazon!: That's true everywhere.

[11:48] Chruser: It would make more sense to make people retake the driving tests every 7 years or so.

[11:48] Senesia: No!

[11:48] Senesia: Annoying.

[11:48] !King_Amazon!: Maybe starting at like, age 50

[11:48] Chruser: Annoying, yes. Less dangerous, obviously.

[11:49] Chruser: Possibly.

[11:49] Senesia: But I think if someone's hands and legs are shaking when they're walking, they should be asked to retake the exam.

[11:49] Chruser: But everyone's limbs shake to different extents!

[11:50] Chruser: We need absolutes!

[11:50] !King_Amazon!: http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._5561745_n.jpg

[11:50] !King_Amazon!: That's two of my friends from highschool, lol

[11:50] !King_Amazon!: the blonde used to be a bookworm

[11:50] !King_Amazon!: she's into like, death metal

[11:50] !King_Amazon!: I didn't even know

[11:50] !King_Amazon!: http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._1379340_n.jpg

[11:50] !King_Amazon!: she's also fuckable now

[11:50] !King_Amazon!: lol

[11:53] Senesia: What are you getting at?

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[11:54] !King_Amazon!: Nothing

[11:55] D3V: lul

[11:55] !King_Amazon!: I think I'm going to get a bottle of wine on the way home from work.

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