Read at your own risk: Open Letter to America from a Canadian

[Strider Fury]

http://baltimorechronicle.com/ol_aug02.shtml

feel free to share your thoughts on this matter.


'America, you are a goddamn shame.'




wow.

[Penguin]

Ahahahahahahahha


canada insult us?

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LOL

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.........CANADA?

And they mention us watching cops all day, our cops look alot better then there fags on horseback =p

[Strider Fury]

but seriously though. the article did pointed out some very good points that should be consider.

[Strider Fury]

hmm... maybe i should've copy&paste the article and leave out the canadian part out...

[BlueCube]

Overall, it's from "A Canadian" and not "Canada" so I wouldn't worry too much.

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And so it has come to this. Your once-great nation has fallen into madness, an affliction of mass denial that brings shivers up the spines of millions outside your borders. Yours is a sick nation. But most of you carry on as though nothing at all is the matter.

Once-Great? We're still number one.

Dark, evil operations run rampant in the secret corners of your government institutions.

Such as? *cough conspiracy nut cough*

. A dubiously constituted government pursues war at will anywhere on earth, discussing nuclear options that become points for cheerful chatter over lunch. Your military and intelligence agencies employ terrorist tactics around the globe even as they insist that such tactics are necessary in the fight against terrorism.

Yeah, saving Afganistan from the Taliban was terrorism, pure and simple. And we should NEVER have nuclear options, or options at all, for that matter, even if the enemy gets a hold of some nukes.

Go get your ten-billionth burger, America. Fatten your already fat asses with bacteria-and-hormone-ridden meat and do nothing as you sit stupefied before your mind-numbing television sets awaiting the next episode of sad families being humiliated on "Cops."

Fat? Yeah, a lot of us are fat (I'm an underweight 120 pounds and 6'2"). We put the hormones in the meat to get rid of the bacteria, and there's never been any studies to suggest that the years and years of research put into these hormones are hurting people. And I don't watch Cops.

Your constitution is a shambles thanks to "national security" measures resulting from what might well be U.S.-government-sanctioned terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington D.C., covert provocations designed to justify a malevolent, poisonous, oil-based military economy.

In shambles? The whole "detaining US Citizens without charging them with any crime" thing, I don't like. Still, that's the only thing I can think of right now. Government sanctioned? I'm assuming you mean the fact that we sent money to various Middle Eastern countries (who use most of our money to buy markers and carboard, so they can make signs saying 'US THE DEVIL KILL THE WEST') and they funded Osama. Oil based military economy? Yep, we use oil. So does everyone else, including you. Cheap and lots of it for now. And the best military in the world.

Never mind that earth-friendly technology already exists to once and for all end dependence on oil, coal and nuclear energy from huge, out-of-control utilities and corporations. You would rather pay through the nose for your insecure comforts, wouldn't you America, and make others pay with their blood.

Earth-Friendly technology, eh? Is that the technology that Canada uses, so that they never use a drop of oil for anything? Can you research that in the Science Facility, or do you have to build a Barracks and an Armory first?

At the same time, you stand by as the Israelis' secular Zionists--whom you support through the supply of arms and money--slaughter untold numbers of innocents in the West Bank, then blame the Palestinians for bringing the terror upon themselves. (True, there are abominable Arab suicide bombers in Israel's midst. But are they not driven to madness and desperation by your infernal support of international terrorist politics?)

Yeah, let's leave Israel alone. Palestine would never declare all Jews to be the devil, and want to drive them into the sea, or continuously slaughter them. Plus, no one would ever try to invade them, since the Arabs in the region love everyone. On the subject of politics, I don't consider destroying bomber's homes international terrorism... maybe attempting to DO something for themselves.

As I write these words, you support a nation run by a convicted murderer by the name of Ariel Sharon who with impunity is carrying out war crimes as cruel and horrendous as those of other sadistic tyrants in history. And you say, in your utter cynicism, 'When will these Palestinians bring this war to an end?'

War Crimes, such as retaliating against attacks on civilians by attacking the attackers? Yeah, Sharon should just drive HIMSELF into the sea.

You recklessly wage combat on other fronts, too. At home, your War on Drugs is a disastrous 30-year folly--a gigantic con game designed to benefit lethal cartels, corrupt politicians and menacing intelligence agencies across the planet.....

Yeah, we DO suck at that. Point conceded.

With your government's support, crooked multinationals like Monsanto buy up the world's water supplies, and take possession of the world's vegetation through Frankenstein technology already known to cause illness.


Buying up the world's water supplies, that's news to me. I'll drink some of that water, and eat some Frankenstein corn with no parasites and better nutrition, which is NOT known to cause illness. Or perhaps, it is known NOT to cause said illnesses.

Hmph. This is taking too long...

[JohnnyTAE]

Originally posted by Strider Fury
but seriously though. the article did pointed out some very good points that should be consider.

They have good points of always looking at the negative of a country (which anyone could do with any country)...
but it really does not contain any certain facts mostly just opnionated theoratical informations which is typed to sound good

I think that whoever wrote this needs to find something better to do because you do not know what it is like to be American,
it is a Privellage that you do not know and should not be critisizing unless you found a government that actually can do better...

sure you have canada or the UK but none of them try and step in on tyrants who abuse Human rights unless the US does first and there there is no other country that has to deal in such a fashion as we do...

in a part of that article it says we lost our spirtuality, and many other things when most Americans are
1. Themselfs
then 2. American
I think we our one of the only nations striving to represent the people, from within itself and all other countrys are just carefully trotting in out footsteps

Well enough Rambling on take it as it comes

[Strider Fury]

america have done a lot of bad stuff (and likely to be still doing it), and sometimes it just seems wrong that they are still getting away with them. the only thing that america ever repersented is freedom (of speech, etc etc), but that too is slowly being taken away.

[JohnnyTAE]

Strider you might think you can see the whole picture because you are at an outside point, but trust me America is still everything it once represented and if that was only Freedom of speech we wouldn't have had so many people come here looking for a better life.... sure we have had our share of difficulties and scandals but when something goes wrong we try to deal with it...

every country has it's shares of scandals and if not it is for a simple fact that it does not have access to the amount of obscuritys America does

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

[Strider Fury]

look at it the other way; how is canada following in the US footsteps? i'm actually glad that it isnt. canada have always been the peacekeepers around the globe for the UN, not the states. in africa the people are fighting like a WW3, and you rarely ever hear from the americans helping them. if you look at canada, they are the ones who have always truely value freedom no matter what and it is more diverse then the US. there are times when i'm glad to be living in canada, without the fear of terrorst activites and will know that they wont be pissing of any countries.

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness? sorry johnny, my man, but i think that canada is doing a way better job. they also learn how to keep its citizens safe and think for the best for the people.

[JohnnyTAE]

Strider Fury Don't take anything I say in here personal because it is just my opinion on the matter (just a fair warning :p )
the Truth is Canada and none of the other countrys would be the countrys they are today without the help of the US
and maybe it is true you look out better for the safety of your people then America does but we do try and look out for the well being of the entire world america was just barely in Africa but pulled out because there was no other support from any of our allies in there and also the fact that the world has so many problems all over the place that we were trying to help out too

I think it is pretty Naive to Flame America beens of what a large part it has played on the World But I see your opinions...

[ViciousMilitia]

i'm a canadian and i think america is doing a good job,yes our government might be corrupt but hey we can't help any of that.

[Strider Fury]

granted, US have helped a lot of people, but that doesnt justifly what all the horrible things they've done to other people, and their own. large cities such as LA has been test subjects of US's bio-weapons and even one of their own naval ships in the mid 90's (not sure of the exact time periods). like i said, it just doesnt justifly.

[JohnnyTAE]

I believe what you are trying to get at is someones personal affairs, America has tested some horrible things but in many cases they were either what we thought was neccesary at the time or being controlled by some lunatic who scandaled his way into power



Ask the majority of Americans where they would rather be and they would all say they would wanna live here unless it was a tropical vacation type spot

but ask an American if he is happy with the Governments coarse of actions must would say no

the good thing is we are striving to make it a better place
Amerca does not have a central authority over everything it is handled by many different organizations thats why it just takes a bit of time...

["CRØNîC-KîLLå"]

all i have to say is why even start shit? just sit back relax and let other country's do it, thats exactlly what other country's are doing now with america, they refuse to help americans out... honestlly im not saying canada contributes much military wise to help america in these situations but one of the reasons is because canada doesnt want to help america, but they know they need to to keep the peace with america, and because they are neighboring country's, the u.s. allways seems to start shit, and end shit, thats why you guys think "america is the best" but other people think because of those reasons they are "the worst" and thats what that canadian is trying to explain!

No offense to the americans in this forum, dont get pissed at me because this is MY observation and opinion

I give total respect to America from past situations where they have helped everyone out so much, and have been somewhat saviors, and they allways try, but im just saying that sometimes they start the shit for themselves.

[JohnnyTAE]

I see what you are saing but America has learned that every little thing no matter how far away will eventually catch up to you
and America does not just start the Fight we are just reacting to the local tensions previous fightings


Remember WW2 we stayed out of it guess what we still got attacked...
I would like to see what all of you people would be saying now had America Stayed out of ww2 and hitler slowly tore apart your country then went after America after it was through (thats part of our strategy now don't let anything else get so big) trust me it would be a much differnt world and Canada would have been attacked sooner or later

and the Reason I think America is the best is not because of the wars we fought or the current economic status it is because of the Ideals it embodys and the soul we represent










Weres SYG when you need him :p

["CRØNîC-KîLLå"]

ok i agree with you, as you can see i edited my post, heh i take it back... but really yes they do start shit by trying to repair "something that is not their problem"... this is usually creating tensions to their country now... this is what happens with many things in life, hell i take myself as an example, i try and help people out, if a fight brakes out at school, i spit it up, because i see how stupid it is... but later on those guys will team on me, beat me, then ill get my friends and beat them 10x harder, in that situation "i created my own problem, instead of trying to fix 1" get what im saying?

best way to solve something is TIME let itself clear itself out.

[JohnnyTAE]

Originally posted by "CRØNîC-KîLLå"
ok i agree with you, as you can see i edited my post, heh i take it back... but really yes they do start shit by trying to repair "something that is not their problem"... this is usually creating tensions to their country now... this is what happens with many things in life, hell i take myself as an example, i try and help people out, if a fight brakes out at school, i spit it up, because i see how stupid it is... but later on those guys will team on me, beat me, then ill get my friends and beat them 10x harder, in that situation "i created my own problem, instead of trying to fix 1" get what im saying?

best way to solve something is TIME let itself clear itself out.

I See what you mean but you know how you feel when you see those ppl pickin on that one person?

you don't want him to suffer right...

thats the way we feel that we need to step in and help these people who cannot defend themselfs against a local tyrant no matter what the cost, and maybe people look on us bad now (which is mainly because people can't handle change or have a political say in the problem because we usally are protectign minoritys of the country) but one day we will be noted for stepping in and giving a hand when others wouldn't

sure we could just let time take it's coarse but how many innocents will have to suffer by then?
and that is if any of them still exist like in Kosavo when there was the attempted Genocide guess what, we stopped that a potential Hitler no more...
I know a guy that moved here from Kosavo and he thanks god every day that we stepped in because he was a Guerilla fighter trying to save his family over there and he said they had no chance at all

[Raziel]

God damn, I'm not even gonna take the time to read this. When someone is SO BORED AND LONELY that they take the time to write a massive letter detailing their distaste for an entire COUNTRY, that person needs to chill out and get himself laid.

[Strider Fury]

it just makes us think... that the government who are running the american people is not as innocent as one might think... cause obviously debating here are not going to take us anywere.

["CRØNîC-KîLLå"]

thats true but it is good to see other peoples views ect... in certain matters, i know we cant do anything about it, and it isnt going to take us anywhere... but just for the sake of a debate/disscussion it can be good because we actually learn how other people think so we can apply that next time we discuss about something, we will know allready what other peoples views could be from experience so we take that into concideration... it inhances the mind in a way heheh

[NonGayMan]

I was watching this wrestling show on Monday and there were these 3 wrestler guys who were all Canadian. They were waving a flag upside down and called themselves the "Anti-Americans". I can't see why Canadians could actually hate Americans. I actually got banned from this one forum because I was American! Then on Ghost Recon, I wanted to join a clan but then I couldn't because they said no Americans were allowed. How prejudice can people get?

[Grav]

Serves you right for playing Ghost Recon.

["CRØNîC-KîLLå"]

well its not true, actually many canadians love americans, and they are like brothers... but some hate them because most americans make fun of canadians and canadians dont make fun of americans, classic example is the "A" word... like.. so you are going to the ball game A? ya that pisses off canadians EXTREMELLY because canadians dont even use that in their sentences anymore...

[Raziel]

I believe it's spelled "eh." And so the hell what? If Canadians have a problem with us making fun of them, they have every right to do it back to us. People don't need to get their panties in a bunch over a few SNL skits and that "Blame Canada" song from South Park. Lighten the fuck up!!

[Jamesadin]

Originally posted by Penguin
Ahahahahahahahha



And they mention us watching cops all day, our cops look alot better then there fags on horseback =p

Dude, my dad is in the RCMP. You loser. Anyways, they havnt done that for 60 years, and they are the best trained police force in the world. Other that your guys. Beating every second person they see. And I believe it was the American police who came to us for appropriate training. Heh, that was very clicheof a dumb american. I know alot of nice americans though, but some are arrogant, and well..... know nothing about the contry next to them.

[ViciousMilitia]

Originally posted by Jamesadin


Dude, my dad is in the RCMP. You loser. Anyways, they havnt done that for 60 years, and they are the best trained police force in the world. Other that your guys. Beating every second person they see. And I believe it was the American police who came to us for appropriate training. Heh, that was very clicheof a dumb american. I know alot of nice americans though, but some are arrogant, and well..... know nothing about the contry next to them.


he is very correct on this they do have the best police force in the whole wide world.......but they have no army or marines which would kick the shit out of there cops anyday....but hey i can't have anything against canadian's beings that i am one of them heh.

[NonGayMan]

I thought you lived in Utah Vicious?

[JohnnyTAE]

We were having this talk the other day and Vicious is a canadian who migrated to America to escape religious persacution








J/p his Mom is from canada so its in his blood

["CRØNîC-KîLLå"]

also canada have the most elite trained army... to be exact look it up if you want, they are the best... their is just a low amount of them because canada doesnt focus on army(because they feel the u.s. will help them out if worst comes to worst)

[NonGayMan]

Heh... we'll help a brudda out lol

[Strider Fury]

yeah i've heard that the chinese speical swap team its pretty elite also.

[Jamesadin]

Me too.

In Canada we dont really focus on the big Invasion thing, we do the little things when the US is in the war. we do the Sniping, and the Special forces (like the swat team only for wars) and we also do the single agent assassinations (like what james bond does)

[ViciousMilitia]

i'm bond james bond

[ViciousMilitia]

Originally posted by JohnnyTAE
We were having this talk the other day and Vicious is a canadian who migrated to America to escape religious persacution








J/p his Mom is from canada so its in his blood


no my mom and her parents are native canadian's there in an indian tribe called the sywash indian's and my dad is white so only half of me is canadian

[Jamesadin]

Meh, its all good

[JohnnyTAE]

Originally posted by Jamesadin
Me too.

In Canada we dont really focus on the big Invasion thing, we do the little things when the US is in the war. we do the Sniping, and the Special forces (like the swat team only for wars) and we also do the single agent assassinations (like what james bond does)

I thought the Single agent and any type of Sniping political figures was outlawed by N.A.T.O. other wise Sudam would have been gone long ago (if that was what you were talking about)
and did any of you see that an anti-Iraq Group took an Iraqi ambassador hostage in germany

[RoboticSilence]

BlueCube really narrowed it down... and I loved that RTS reference.

[RoboticSilence]

Originally posted by "CRØNîC-KîLLå"
classic example is the "A" word... like.. so you are going to the ball game A? ya that pisses off canadians EXTREMELLY because canadians dont even use that in their sentences anymore...

My uncles, aunts, cousins, etc. all live in Canada and I have dual citizenship ( Canada and America, use your fucking brain ) and every time I go up there nd talk to my uncle... he says "eh" like eight times every sentence...

[Jamesadin]

I know no one in canada ( and I live in canada) who does that. (hes probably doing it to annoy you)

[JohnnyTAE]

Carefull with the Double post...

but it is just something a lot of people use but down here where I live they don't say ehh they say you know in between themselves usually just to get your attention back and some girls use like....

[Jamesadin]

true, but what about "Fonzi" EEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[heXXor]

America is a very stable and suitable country to live in, and I think that the are better off than any other contry. Keep in mind that your fighting over someone's opinion, and that's what they want you to do. Can't you see that this is just another attack at the U.S.A. useing hate speech so don't let this change your mind about your country america.

[Jamesadin]

Goodo thinking hexxor. EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[heXXor]

Originally posted by Jamesadin
Goodo thinking hexxor. EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


.....wait are you mocking or being nice.......you never can tell on the net.:O)

[Jamesadin]

Im being nice, Im not the one to mock

[RoboticSilence]

He's a complete asshole and everything he says is in one way or another demoralizing the one he says it to... but then again... he may be wholly sincere and kind about everything... you can never tell on the net...

[Jamesadin]

lol, yes, repeat everything you just said, and say it about everyone else on the net. You just never know. But actually I try to stay away from the annoy people as much as possible side.

[Demosthenes]

all countries have their down-sides. America is the greatest nation in the world. I agree that it has some negatives but the positives heavily out-weigh the negatives

[Sirpullido]

Spain is cooler....

[Sum Yung Guy]

Originally posted by JohnnyTAE
Weres SYG when you need him :p

Hes playing AA and getting ready to go back into the military and serve the US once again.

[Jamesadin]

once again? were you in the reserves?

[Sum Yung Guy]

I was in the Air Force active duty.

[Sirpullido]

ya, he cleaned the boots of the pilots :p

[Strider Fury]

sirpullido... :D