New Zelaron Default Theme

[Chruser]

Well folks, we have finally decided to start making a high-technology theme as many of you have requested. The sketches have been worked on for a bit, but when we came to the "postbit" template (the layout of an user post, such as this blue area with an avatar, signature and buttons), we encountered a few problems.

Since we are planning to make something truly unique, advanced, yet very handy, there have been some arguments about the signature placement.

The first example (below) shows you a lot of new ideas. I'm sure you can understand the descriptions seen in the image, but a few things should be brought up. First off, the signature image would be limited to 400x100, and a few lines of text/smaller images of your choice could be placed in the "quote" section. The obvious downside with this is that the signatures will be considered small, smaller than the images most of you use today. Also, since we will not delete the other themes, some larger signatures might come in handy.

http://www.zelaron.com/pr0n/postbit-1.gif


Below this text, you can see the other example. It is not extremely different from the first one, except that the signature is placed directly below the post, similar to the current standard forum themes. The bottom right section will be decorated deliciously with effects, such as pipes, tentacles or anything that comes in mind. Of course, this version has downsides as well. First off, the functionality remains the same as before, which isn't neccesarily a bad thing. Larger signatures can be used, but on the other side, perhaps you would like to see some more changes? Another downside would be that having the same "decorations" in the bottom right corner could get boring after a while.

http://www.zelaron.com/pr0n/postbit-2.gif




Both of these themes will be deliciously decorated with futuristic sci-fi/megatokyo looks, and should be quite enjoyable to see, assuming that we manage to make them properly.

[Chruser]

Oh, and remember to comment these themes as you like.
Here's a quote from a girl who has been on my AIM list for quite some time (and yes, she's both smart and artistic :D):

"i like the one with your signature down in the lower right hand corner, b/c to have your signature take up the bottom third of the post content box is showy and egotistical."

[ShadowXOR]

go with layout 2, look how small my sig is but it doesnt fit because its 468x60........and id have to make custom sigs for this forum since its way smaller then my other forum 500x100 is absolute smallest you should go for a sig

[Jamesadin]

whoa, thats.....different

[ShadowXOR]

showy and egotistical? is she smoking crack? the whole IDEA of a sig is to show your skill, people believe it is to show your name, its not, that ican be done though, your name to the left above your avatar is where your name goes

[ShadowXOR]

and you should take my opinions seriously i have been a graphic/web designer for years, have skinned forums and know quite a lot, i suggest you vote with me, if you want to see some of my work check http://www.loneshadow.com

["CRØNîC-KîLLå"]

i vote for example #1 staright up looks better, goes with the flow of the design, looks more proffetional and looks more of a tech look.!!!!

[Jamesadin]

a sig kinda shows your personality, same with your avatar. Remember that time Randuin had that killing little girls avatar, that tells about him. But lets not get off topic.

[ShadowXOR]

both of the things above are just rough drafts so i dont know how you can see it being more techy...

[WetWired]

the whole IDEA of a sig is to show your skillReally, how does having a sig that someone else made for you do that?

[Jamesadin]

well thats for us less artistic type.
(read what I said above)

[ShadowXOR]

thats not my fault that they dont want to make there own sigs, and there not following what a sig is, i make my own so dont look at me and it is also there too look cool

[ask_rabber]

i like the first one although the minimum should be 500x100 (being thats almost the size of the signature ShadowXOR made me). and also with the signature in the bottom right the post content would be easier to see (although it is right now, itd be a little easier)

["CRØNîC-KîLLå"]

example 1 may be cut off in space, but space doesnt matter... if your skilled enough in art even having an art touch to you, you would know what can make pics stand out, and you can make them just as good as bigger ones, take for example chruser's new pic... now that stands out more then the others he has had chee i wonder why? because he has enough skill to make it overpower bigger ones...

[Chruser]

Of course, if someone hates the whole idea with it, for instance, that the avatar would be on the right side, just vote for the first option and explain why.

[Jamesadin]

its new, and it takes some getting used to thats all

[ShadowXOR]

Originally posted by ask_rabber
i like the first one although the minimum should be 500x100 (being thats almost the size of the signature ShadowXOR made me). and also with the signature in the bottom right the post content would be easier to see (although it is right now, itd be a little easier)

dude no shit i could make a sig small that stands out but that doesnt mean i want to go to extra effort to make a sig I only use here when i use my 468x50 sigs everywhere else, which are small in themselves

[Kidagakash]

Well, i vote for number 1, the main reason why, because haveing the avatar on the right instaed of the left is somthing new, and i have never seen before on any forums, as for sigs, your not forced to use this new template, you want to keep your old sig, dont use the new template!! (Wow that was a no brainer)
but then i think.. hmm.. okay ppl using their old sigs, what happons if somone using the new tempate see an "Old-school" sig? hehe (Finds what she thinks to be a loop-hole)

Thank on it! i like the first one! i say go for it!

[Jamesadin]

I dont think he meant it that way

[ShadowXOR]

Originally posted by Kidagakash
Well, i vote for number 1, the main reason why, because haveing the avatar on the right instaed of the left is somthing new, and i have never seen before on any forums, as for sigs, your not forced to use this new template, you want to keep your old sig, dont use the new template!! (Wow that was a no brainer)
but then i think.. hmm.. okay ppl using their old sigs, what happons if somone using the new tempate see an "Old-school" sig? hehe (Finds what she thinks to be a loop-hole)

Thank on it! i like the first one! i say go for it!

the avatar is on the right for both of them slick

[ask_rabber]

notice that on the second one the avatar is ALSO on the right...

--EDIT--
aww shit he posted that a minute before me!

[Jamesadin]

I like #1, its something new that might attact people to the forums

[ShadowXOR]

or the lack of a decent sig could not attract people

[Chruser]

Well, keep voting. I haven't cast my vote, and I'm not planning to do so either. I prefer to stay neutral in situations like this, since I really want the users to pick the best template.

[Jamesadin]

I just want the sigs to become big enough again, or else I wont be able to get one

[Jamesadin]

will someone please take the wote away from dont change it and put it into #2 that is mine and I would like it changed

[Kidagakash]

hey ShadowXOR maybe you sould re-read my post,
i said its new having the thing on the right INSTAED of the left you ignoramus Think before you type
BTW dont be a smartass cues asses are for sitting, not for being smart...

Also, i ment that i like the first one's layout, ASWELL as the avatar placement! geez some ppl, get a clue...

[ShadowXOR]

Originally posted by Kidagakash
BTW dont be a smartass cues asses are for sitting, not for being smart...

wow you sure have proved your ignorance. your amazing spelling and sentence structure are beautiful. by the way I am a moderator so watch what you say

[Kidagakash]

you a mod of this forum? humm... not very
mod-like to to go around dishing out words like that....
mayhaps you sould just settle down, and we can talk this over like normal pplz? or!! i have an idea! lets keep it on topic!!
wow! theirs an idea!! lets just stop poking fun at my l33t spelling huh? it gets old when everyone trys to insult me cues of it. trust me. im not insulted, i know i cant spell, and i know my grammer is messed up. so try poking at somthing else for a change? maybe?

good work *winks*

[ShadowXOR]

how about you just talk like a normal human being, and i am a mod, who cares what words i use at least i speak english, 1337 is the language of net losers with no life and if you want to talk normal instant message me, we can talk like normal people but not like normal "pplz"

[Kidagakash]

hmmm.. me speek english? thats unposable!

first off, i do speek english, and i spelt it l33t not l337, whos the net loser? fixing net loser text typos? pft. funny funny happy fun!

stop flaming and get back on topic lil man!

[ShadowXOR]

little man? im 6'1" and if you ever had a boyfriend (doubt you ever will) im sure i could take him any day, and as for 1337 i just type it i dont know your official net loser lingo

[Kidagakash]

a boyfirend? how did this get into my personal life?
Talk about Off Topic!
honeslty i dont want a boyfriend, sorry. IMO i find that men are all after the same thing. so its a waste of time. (im not saying all men are like this, just Alot of them)

Back on topic huh? i like template #1 dont like it? dont use it...

[Jamesadin]

ok, a lot off topic, #2 is the best in my opinion

[Penguin]

i just want bigger sigs and avatars... since now i have to give up BOTH of mine due to the fact that we are all supposed to use this new theme =/

i guess you cant set diffrent avatar sizes/sig sizes based on themes? so like if i diddnt want to change to the new theme i could see My avatar regular size but to others itll be cut off... dunno

[ShadowXOR]

Originally posted by Kidagakash
a boyfirend? how did this get into my personal life?
Talk about Off Topic!
honeslty i dont want a boyfriend, sorry. IMO i find that men are all after the same thing. so its a waste of time. (im not saying all men are like this, just Alot of them)

Back on topic huh? i like template #1 dont like it? dont use it...

talk about getting off topic your the one getting into all the 1337 shit if you want to drop it im all for it

[ShadowXOR]

Originally posted by Penguin
i just want bigger sigs and avatars... since now i have to give up BOTH of mine due to the fact that we are all supposed to use this new theme =/

i guess you cant set diffrent avatar sizes/sig sizes based on themes? so like if i diddnt want to change to the new theme i could see My avatar regular size but to others itll be cut off... dunno

i wish we could do that that sounds like a really good idea

[Kidagakash]

exatly what i was thinking about the sigs and stuff, but it hink ppl sould have a choice, if they want to use the old template they can, with any size sig they want. but thing is. ppl using the new template... your sig might look weard to them..

but as well to poke at Chruser a bit, you seem to want to put in a rule about sig/avatar size yes? (I could be worng) , but their was never one before (i could be wrong). so i dont think ppl would want to follow somthing that never was before, sorta like i was doing on LoD. and trust me new rules = alot of un-happy campers and un-needed flames. :-)

(im happy its back on topic now :-P )

Also... ShadowXOR i have taken the time to just plain ignore you, to prevent anymore OT bullshit. so babble al you want, i wont respond to your MSG's

[ShadowXOR]

by saying your going to ignore me is the very act of not ignoring me, if you were to ignore me you wouldn't have even posted that. Your trying to make yourself feel good by pointing out your ignoring me....how sad.

[Sum Yung Guy]

Im digusted by you all. Flames are for the flame forum.

Now what some other people said or hinted at... is it possible or feasable for users to define which sigs and avatars appear in different themes? I think that would be awsome. Make 2 similar sigs, one that will fit in this new theme and one that shows the bigger size in your old theme...

Its a shame I'm not able to use that signature ShadowXOR made for me just last night... also as for what ShadowXOR said and WetWired's reply (that wasnt wetwired it was his evil twin) about how signatures are supposed to show the users skills and personality... I believe it does that even if you did not create it yourself... but if you did, more power to you. Just think some of the speeches said by important people... alot of those are written not by the person who said it, but by a writer.

Thats my $0.02 on this these recent changes on Zelaron anyways.

:edit: Also I'm not voting because I'm undecided... and for the first option... I don't even use that theme I use Ocean, It matches my avatar and signature.

[Kidagakash]

sum, one main complait about the net template, is that ppl dont want to make new sigs :-\ let alone have 2 sigs! hehe

(happy no luckey :-\ )

thou even i suffer from the change, my avatar is gone :-\ im gona re-do it thou so it fits, i dont mind the chnages, i also dont mind thaking the little time it does to size it down..

[ShadowXOR]

honestly i dont think we should have either new template, there to troublesome, but if i had to pick one of them i would pick # 2 for the bigger sig size

[ShadowXOR]

Originally posted by Kidagakash
sum, one main complait about the net template, is that ppl dont want to make new sigs :-\ let alone have 2 sigs! hehe

(happy no luckey :-\ )

thou even i suffer from the change, my avatar is gone :-\ im gona re-do it thou so it fits, i dont mind the chnages, i also dont mind thaking the little time it does to size it down..

you dont even have a sig, just some quote. im sure its not hard to size that text down :O) :O) :O) :O) :O) :O) :O) :O) :O) :O) :O) :O) :O) :O) :O)

[Chruser]

SYG, actually, that's a good idea with the two sigs. The bottom right part wouldn't neccesarily have to be a "sig", but some kind of an image that represents you in a way. I think I could like that more than a static pipe background, for instance.

[Kidagakash]

ShadowXOR.. okay you realy need to read better,

i dident say I had a sig nim-nuts im saying others that have sigs may not want to HAVE to change them due to a new template.

persoanly i was talking about my avatar vanashing due to changes. geez... anything else you need clearing up on? (Aside from my bad spelling and typos that is)

[ShadowXOR]

your doing a great job ignoring me

[Jamesadin]

oh god this will go on forever

[Strider Fury]

It appears that one of the votes for the first option has been deleted....

[Night_Hunter]

I have to admit that I like the "dual selection" idea, which would be pretty stylish. I'm still going with #2 in case that never happens though.

[Jamesadin]

Originally posted by Strider Fury
It appears that one of the votes for the first option has been deleted.... ]

Yeah, I asked Chruser to take one off from leave it on zephios and put it in #2. I changed my mind.

[JohnnyTAE]

Originally posted by Kidagakash
you a mod of this forum? humm... not very
mod-like to to go around dishing out words like that....
mayhaps you sould just settle down, and we can talk this over like normal pplz? or!! i have an idea! lets keep it on topic!!
wow! theirs an idea!! lets just stop poking fun at my l33t spelling huh? it gets old when everyone trys to insult me cues of it. trust me. im not insulted, i know i cant spell, and i know my grammer is messed up. so try poking at somthing else for a change? maybe?

good work *winks*

Wow Finally another proud Fob like myself
Fob is a common term around here used for us polynesians that seemed to have mass migrated over here to Utah and Do not fully follow the rules of the english language instead start our own fully unique dialect instead of the over bearing language that insults itself that our peers use (Wow I seem to have made myself sound intelligent :p )
fob i.e. I was talking to vicious and I told him I am going too stay inside the ac where it's kool
where of course I meant stay inside where the ac keeps me kool
I applaud you kidkagash

and back on topic I prefer the layout of the first but I realize that it will make a lot of people mad but if that was out of the way it would trully make us a unique community(well more unique then we already are) and has a nicer setup for the eyes then the second which looks kind of clutter in the example and would defintly look way more cluttered in the end...

but I really think that the avatar and everything incorporated with it should be on the left side due to the fact people ( western people ) read from left to right and because it's nice to know right away who wrote it because you interput the text differntly depending on how well you know that person but I will pass my little objection up for the sake of something new

[ShadowXOR]

thats scary people are applauding illiteracy....

[JohnnyTAE]

Your just a damn idiot it's not iliteracy bright guy. I can read and spell fine it's just the proper grammer that catches me (I can fix that fine to but it's a sort of ebonics around here talking fucked up give us our own sort of language a.k.a. Slang terminology).
some people have too big of an ego and about your comment about being 6'1 you really are a fuckin loser you know that trying to start a fight over the net sitting behind your computer if you ever do stop by utah just hit me up and I can teach you a lesson or two. But enough of this bullshit if you want to have some more immature rantings take it to the flame forum or the way I prefer it catch a plane out to utah...

[Kidagakash]

yay somone suports my crappy typos and spelling!


oh! i also see its a tie with 4 votes on each option.

*Prays that option #1 wins*

[Sum Yung Guy]

Keep this thread on subject, DO NOT continue this flame anymore unless it is in the :fire:FLAME FORUM:fire: (http://www.zelaron.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=92)

[ShadowXOR]

Originally posted by JohnnyTAE
Your just a damn idiot it's not iliteracy bright guy. I can read and spell fine it's just the proper grammer that catches me (I can fix that fine to but it's a sort of ebonics around here talking fucked up give us our own sort of language a.k.a. Slang terminology).
some people have too big of an ego and about your comment about being 6'1 you really are a fuckin loser you know that trying to start a fight over the net sitting behind your computer if you ever do stop by utah just hit me up and I can teach you a lesson or two. But enough of this bullshit if you want to have some more immature rantings take it to the flame forum or the way I prefer it catch a plane out to utah...

you notice the sad little men have such tempers these days! :O) how sad for the little illiterate utah man :O)

[ShadowXOR]

and move that to the flame forum if you want i didn't read sums post :) i dont care i find this all funny....these people getting all serious and offended over the internet....shows how pathetic they are...and this guy wants me to come out to utah hahaha ill leave his hick town alone he can come to the sunny california beach and get his ass whooped if he likes, either way hes hilarious

[Strider Fury]

I think that we should give the new theme a try, but that doesn't mean we have to like it.

[Jamesadin]

this is sad...

WHOO! Vote #2 for bigger sigs!

[Hell Hound]

i like number 1 layout the best

[Chruser]

The postbit is pretty much done, but the forum theme itself will still need some more work. We were planning to do a light theme at first, but it turned out that it was no idea, since the "high-tech" look we wanted would disappear.

[Jamesadin]

why dont we just do a #1 but have bigger sigs?

[Chruser]

Because there's no way of having "bigger sigs" unless we make the postbit 950 pixels wide, which could be slightly too much for those poor people in 1024x768 resolutions?

[Jamesadin]

well then I think #2 should be the one, but then again its not my call

[Chruser]

It's being worked on. Hopefully, it could be announced in 1-3 days, but we can't guarantee anything yet.

[ViciousMilitia]

i don't like it

[WetWired]

Hmm, considering that this is a done deal already, unstuck and closed.