Nominate a new Supreme Moderator

[Chruser]

Considering the fact that Lenny and I live in Europe, it will be preferable if the new Supreme Moderator lives in the Americas due to time zone differences (and consequently, additional, active protection from spam bots).

Anyway, nominate up to three members for the available Supreme Moderator position. The decisive vote will be held in equally many days from now, or tomorrow if this thread is dead by then.

EDIT: It's okay to nominate yourself.


Current list of nominations:

D3V
Draco2003
jamer123
Jessifer
Kazilla
kyeruu
Sebarak
-Spector-
Thanatos
WKFF

[D3V]

Wow, great call Chruser.

This is actually a very hard call. Weighing in that you must be fair and levelheaded there aren't too many normal members that posess this quality not to let their emotions get in front of their Judgement.

I'd like to nominate Draco2003. For various reasons, he doesn't take sides and tries to solve problems without perpetuating them. Maybe a little more activity out of him would be great, but he helps the boards out before he hurts them.

Thanatos would be another good choice just because of his longetivity and I feel that he is pretty fair and balanced and would be a good polar-opposite of K_A to keep these boards in alignment. Not even because I agree with him on most everything, but just the fact that he would be a good rep for Zel, and keep shit in line, and on track.

I think there should also be another thread for News Posters to once again be nominated, possibly two more News Posters to keep these forums up to date on 'Current Events'.

And I would nominate myself, but I would imagine it's against the rules, but i'd rather have unanimous agreement in this.

[jamer123]

i nominate d3v because hes helped me all the time he was there before he got banned and he be a big help to any new members that want help and i nominate myself because i know whats right and ill keep the forums ballence

[Thanatos]

Besides myself, I think WKFF would make a good mod.

[Kazilla]

(and consequently, additional, active protection from spam bots).

If you want spambot protection then i'd be your man. I dont have the intelligence of you or Lenny, but what i do have is no life ;) I could sit here all day deleting spam messages. When it came down to someone actually moderating a post Lenny is around to straight that out, and im not all that bad just when personal things get into the mix. But yea spam protection? I'm who your looking for.

[Wallow]

Once we get a good amount of feedback, I'll (or if one of the mods wants to) tally up the results and post the winner. Then Chruser I guess decides who will be the new supreme mod.
As for my nomination, I'll vote for WKFF. He's an all around great guy, and pretty stable (except for sudden outbursts of immaturity).

[D3V]

I would be happy to be a Mod, but i'm not going to ask or beg for it. I'd rather have the community decide who they want, rather than to have a campaign about it. The track record is pretty clear for every member in here, I think as long as this person(s) is fair and balanced then there shouldn't be a problem.

And WKFF would be okay in my book as well, I look at it though of how often somebody is on, and would be able to deal with problems ASAP rather than a few days later, which is what happens sometimes when peoples busy schedule gets in the way.

[Thanatos]

D3V nominates Barack Obama.

[!King_Amazon!]

Thanatos, -Spector-, or Jessifer.

[D3V]

Thanatos, -Spector-, or Jessifer.

Isn't Spector already in some sort of position as Moderator? I haven't seen much from him using his "powers" towards any good, I mean what has he done so far as a moderator? There isn't much of anything I can see from a small handful of Diablo related threads in his section, but nothing much has changed.


I'd just like to just say, look at who has actually made good changes or suggestions for these boards and who hasn't. It's pretty easy to just narrow down anything that does work good here or has helped out activity and board morale.. If they haven't done shit, what makes you think nominating them a Sup Mod will change anything?

[Kazilla]

I look at it though of how often somebody is on, and would be able to deal with problems ASAP rather than a few days later, which is what happens sometimes when peoples busy schedule gets in the way.

Should be the basis of who gets it, we got rid of Yawgmoth for his inactivity and would make no sence to appoint another inactive member.

[!King_Amazon!]

Isn't Spector already in some sort of position as Moderator? I haven't seen much from him using his "powers" towards any good, I mean what has he done so far as a moderator? There isn't much of anything I can see from a small handful of Diablo related threads in his section, but nothing much has changed.
Moderators can't do much of anything anyway. And besides, this isn't a "debate who should be moderator" thread.

[-Spector-]

Isn't Spector already in some sort of position as Moderator? I haven't seen much from him using his "powers" towards any good, I mean what has he done so far as a moderator? There isn't much of anything I can see from a small handful of Diablo related threads in his section, but nothing much has changed.

Yes, I am a moderator but only of the Diablo II section. That's why you haven't seen me moderating in other sections of the forum. ;)

:Edit: Though already nominated, I choose WKFF.

[Wed-G]

I'd say WKFF or Thanatos.

And, for your consideration, I'm on all the time (seriously, I'm up til five and refresh zelaron ever couple minutes) and have no bias towards anyone anymore (if ever. Kazilla was on the list, but he's cool now.)

[D3V]

Moderators can't do much of anything anyway. And besides, this isn't a "debate who should be moderator" thread.

Yes, but I'm saying what good has come from it? About 4-5 threads and no activity. Thanks but no thanks. I'm saying is that if he is nominated for a Sup Mod what makes you think anything will be any different from the rest of the forum? If he can't help out that small section, the rest of the boards would make it even harder.

[!King_Amazon!]

Yes, but I'm saying what good has come from it? About 4-5 threads and no activity. Thanks but no thanks. I'm saying is that if he is nominated for a Sup Mod what makes you think anything will be any different from the rest of the forum? If he can't help out that small section, the rest of the boards would make it even harder.
here!

Moderators can't do much of anything anyway. And besides, this isn't a "debate who should be moderator" thread.

can't do much of anything anyway. And besides, this isn't a "debate who should be moderator" thread.

anything anyway. And besides, this isn't a "debate who should be moderator" thread.

And besides, this isn't a "debate who should be moderator" thread.

this isn't a "debate who should be moderator" thread.

/thread.

[Wallow]

My second nomination has to be Draco2003. Good guy, not biased, neutral in every one's opinion.

[jamer123]

ka that was just a waste of a post

[D3V]

Don't be immature K_A. I"m not saying he shouldn't be demodded from his Mod spot, but just not nominated as a Sup Mod being that he hasn't done much to show anything positive, l2read.

[!King_Amazon!]

Don't be immature K_A. I"m not saying he shouldn't be demodded from his Mod spot, but just not nominated as a Sup Mod being that he hasn't done much to show anything positive, l2read.

Alright, so don't nominate him. This isn't a thread to debate why or why not to make someone a supreme mod.

[Wallow]

Like was said before, this isn't a "dispute who should be nominated" thread. This is simply a nomination thread and why.

[D3V]

*Edit.

I guess if nobody else does, I'll tally this up tomorrow? If Chruser hasn't done so by then.

[jamer123]

ey y am i not on the list

[Kazilla]

D3V 100% Member sence 06-29-2003 - 12:00 PM
Draco2003 70.8% Member sence 06-10-2004 - 11:10 PM
Jessifer 80.5% Member sence 11-03-2003 - 07:59 PM
Kazilla 100% Member sence 02-05-2006 - 08:52 PM
Sebarak not being rude but, who is this? Member sence ????
-Spector- 34.1% Member sence 01-02-2003 - 11:59 AM
Thanatos 64.1% Member sence 11-04-2002 - 12:00 PM
WKFF 77.7% Member sence 09-24-2003 - 12:00 PM

I think that activity should be a big part in who is next, not only that, but how long the nominee has been here. We removed Yawgmoth for his inactivity so appointing another inactive member is pointless.

[Jessifer]

Dev wins. :P

[jamer123]

What about me

[!King_Amazon!]

D3V 100% Member sence 06-29-2003 - 12:00 PM
Draco2003 70.8% Member sence 06-10-2004 - 11:10 PM
Jessifer 80.5% Member sence 11-03-2003 - 07:59 PM
Kazilla 100% Member sence 02-05-2006 - 08:52 PM
Sebarak not being rude but, who is this? Member sence ????
-Spector- 34.1% Member sence 01-02-2003 - 11:59 AM
Thanatos 64.1% Member sence 11-04-2002 - 12:00 PM
WKFF 77.7% Member sence 09-24-2003 - 12:00 PM

I think that activity should be a big part in who is next, not only that, but how long the nominee has been here. We removed Yawgmoth for his inactivity so appointing another inactive member is pointless.

I'm sure your opinion is completely unbiased.

[Kazilla]

I'm sure your opinion is completely unbiased.
your as bad as slaynish.. if dont have anything nice to say then dont say anything at all. It is unbiased seeing as i am the most recent member it kinda shuns me out of the competition. All i have going for me is activity.

Personally what i think it should look like is this.

D3v
Jessifer
Kazilla

(for each of them have high activity)

and...

D3v
-Spector-
Thanatos

(because these nominee's have been here the longest)

[Goodlookinguy]

I've ignored this whole conversation because I want to nominate myself because of my good looks.

Na, really I would only want to moderate the RPG Maker and Tech forums.

[jamer123]

hey were am i in the race

[Kazilla]

you or someone else hasnt nominated you..

[-Spector-]

My lack of activity is due to a Hospital visit.. >.<

[Lenny]

I think that activity should be a big part in who is next, not only that, but how long the nominee has been here.


I've had a conversation with Chruser, and that is one of the main things that I think a moderator shoud have - good activity. There's no point in having a mod who's on once a month, but at the same time a member should not become a moderator because they've been at 100% for a few weeks. Ideally, it needs to be someone who is always on.

[jamer123]

ya like me im allways on

[Kazilla]

i mean, im kinda living on unemployment atm >.> soz megan... i am actively searching for a job, but untill then my xbox and pc are within 5 ft of eachother and i sit in my chair and play my xbox all day. After a battle or durring a sequence i push f5 or new posts... its really sad i know but it makes the day go by >_<

[Wallow]

you or someone else hasnt nominated you..

How come you put yourself in the race if nobody has nominated you lol
If you go by activity, I've been here longer than you have and have I think close to 100% activity

Good thing I don't care about who becomes a moderator neither wanting to become one.

[D3V]

I've had a conversation with Chruser, and that is one of the main things that I think a moderator shoud have - good activity. There's no point in having a mod who's on once a month, but at the same time a member should not become a moderator because they've been at 100% for a few weeks. Ideally, it needs to be someone who is always on.

Very true. I can agree with that totally, atleast my point I brought up earlier is that they can resolve conflicts at the time it happens, or shortly after. Along with the rest of the basic stuff they are inclined to do.

[Kazilla]

How come you put yourself in the race if nobody has nominated you lol
If you go by activity, I've been here longer than you have and have I think close to 100% activity

Good thing I don't care about who becomes a moderator neither wanting to become one.
because chruser said you can nominate yourself? because i am probably the most active person of these forums? because i feel i could be the utmost end to spam bots on zelaron? because i was bored? because you didnt run so i figured i should? because the sky is blue and the grass is green? because i felt like it probably... dunno take your pick

[jamer123]

kazilla i did nominate myself its in the same post after i nominate d3v

[Kazilla]

im not the one editting chruser's post i copy and pasted what he had listed - maybe he automatically disqualified you? i dont know bring it up with him

[Wallow]

My last nomination...













































































Kyeruuu:grin:

[Lenny]

because i feel i could be the utmost end to spam bots on zelaron?

I would like you to explain this, please. Think of it as the sspeech you have to give in front of your class, telling them why you should be elected Class President.

And just for some statistics - today I deleted twelve spam posts and banned three spammers. On the fifth, it was two spammers and ten posts. Between the fifth and today, someone else deleted three advertising posts and I assume they banned the advertisers (two of them), and on the fourth I delivered the cold mouse click of justice to two spammers who racked up twelve posts. All the spam over the past week seems to have followed the same general formula - a post with a story, ending in an ad for game gold. They often start with "bump and lurk".

Obviously those are only the ones I know about. The other staff members will have deleted whatever they found and banned whoever posted them.

We seem to have periods of quiet followed by a couple of weeks of spam and advertisements.

[Chruser]

The list of nominees has been updated.

[D3V]

Question: Once there has been a certain amount of deliberation, where will this 'process' go from there?.. A vote?.

[Goodlookinguy]

Question: Once there has been a certain amount of deliberation, where will this 'process' go from there?.. A vote?.


Probably. Why wouldn't we vote?

We voted for K_A and Lenny after all.

[D3V]

I figured they might just deliberate amongst the rest of the Staff and go from there, that's why I asked.

[Kazilla]

well, as moderator of the th section i have myself also deleted spam within minutes / hours of its posting, the second time i left the box checked that said delete all other posts by this member assuming it was only directed to the th section, however it might seem to completely effect this users capabilities.

I sit on this website growing fatter and fatter as the days go on, the most excersise i get is a wiggle of the joystick on my xbox controller and a quick reach to the f5 button. I havent seen a single spam bot outside of the th section meaning either the current moderators have it on lockdown or only moderators can see the spam. Either way, i would be ready to strike within a moments notice, and can more then occupy the time that you guys are asleep, or should be.

How do you kill that which has no life?

[D3V]

How do you kill that which has no life?

Take away what makes them a loser.

[Goodlookinguy]

Can I be nominated for not so powerful moderator?

I just want to be the moderator of the 'Tech News and Help' and 'RPG Maker' forums. I plan to release some programming and RPG Maker tutorials soon.

[Willkillforfood]

I normally don't get on a lot on weekends when my girlfriend's in. We don't see each other aside from weekends so she normally gets them. However, during the week I get on daily unless there's some crazy circumstances.

[Tuttifrutti]

How come you put yourself in the race if nobody has nominated you lol
If you go by activity, I've been here longer than you have and have I think close to 100% activity

Good thing I don't care about who becomes a moderator neither wanting to become one.
uh, does your profile not say that you joined april of 08? kaz has been here since '06, even before that with different accounts. if anything kaz looks better than you as a mod because he DOES have 100%, instead of being kinda close to it, and he's been here 2 years longer than you, unless your profile is incorrect. not that im promoting him as a mod because i'd rather him get off his ass than have another reason to stay on it. i personally would like to see dev or tr as a mod. they tend to keep situations neutral, are active members and have been here for a while.

[Kazilla]

id like to see thanatos over d3v only because ive had my moment with thanatos and we got over it and can almost assume we are buddies now? thats how men work - you tear each other down then work to build each other back up, so that when you aquire your position you had before you are good friends ;).

d3v althought neutral now has had his very controversial days back when, so actually he shows alot of promise in his ability to mature and change.

I think the top canidates should explain what they can bring to the forum, what they can contribute.

[Willkillforfood]

I'm not really sure who I'd pick. I like Jessifer a lot and she'd make a good mod if she was continually active and steady.

[Kazilla]

i withdrawal myself you can read why down below, or vist my thread http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?p=651473#post651473

Earlier Chruser made a thread to nominate someone for new Supreme Moderator, im going to withdrawal myself nominated status for the reason that, I don’t really want it. GLG wants to be moderator of the Game Design section, who is fighting him for that position? No one? Then give it to him. Let him excel at what he is a good at, which is why I am now asking to me moderator of the Gaming Forum. Some of you might know I love my games. I enjoy all aspects to them, they are the imagination I never had. With that being said, I’m now going to copy and paste this from MSWord to Zelaron, and await your discussion.

[quikspy67]

I'd say Thanatos, I would like to apply for sports forum mod though.

[Jessifer]

Honestly, if I were a Mod it'd actually give me a reason to stay around when things get slow.

My nominations, though delayed (I spent time actually thinking about it), are Dev, -Spector-, and WKFF. If Kagom were here I'd nominate him. But he's not, so I won't.

[Chruser]

Any other nominations? I'll start the voting thread in a few hours.

[HandOfHeaven]

Thanatos, because he has a level head about his shoulders. -Spector- because even through his haze of drug binges, still has a higher intelligience capacity than the majority of members here.

I don't believe a newly unbanned member such as D3V should be given a position of power quite yet. As we know, he could possibly abuse it and we could see mod wars between K_A and D3V.

Mai too sense!

[D3V]

Any other nominations? I'll start the voting thread in a few hours.

I think the core of who might actually do something good for the boards has been nominated. Should be fun to see the outcome.

[Asamin]

I would say D3V and TR



Since we are saying these things, I would love to be the mod of the D2 and D3 forums. Diablo , D2, and LOD are three of my favorite games even and I still play them even though I had to download a lot of software to play it on my comp.

[Draco2003]

I am quite humbled to be considered for the Moderator position, because to me it shows that you respect me enough to enforce rules. I would appreciate the positions, but I would like to point out the pro's and con's of my candidacy(sp?).

I agree I would make a good moderator, due to the fact that I seem to be one of the few members that understands not to take anything personally here. I am on a steady amount, although not nearly as active as some of the other members, and I pay attention to a majority of the forums. I believe I have good grammar and I spell well. I have a rare ability to take on multiple points of views of almost any given situation, and form my own judgements with a little room to vary in degrees of intensity. I understand what subjects need to be left alone, which need further exploration, and which are complete and anything following is more than likely unrelated or unnecessary. Because I view many of the active members here as friends, I feel that I can help them to reach an understanding should a conflict break out; I wouldn't be able to choose one friend over another. And, if elected, I would make a few changes, starting with the way people handle beefs.

And while the positve side may persuade you to vote in favor of me, I feel there are some negative things that should be pointed out. First of which is there may be a period of inactivity from me, due to me sharing a family computer at the moment. With 2 brothers, a sister-in-law and parents all trying to get on at different times, it could be who knows how long before I get on. Sometimes, one of my brothers likes to race to it, and he'll be on it all night, and he repeats this 3 or 4 nights in a row. Another thing, is that because I am not as well acquainted with some newer members, I may be unintentionally biased towards either party. One other thing that I feel needs to be adressed. In order to lead, you can't be friends with those you are leading. You can be friendly, but when your friendship starts to interfere with your duty, one of them falls apart.

Now, I know some of you may be reading this and thinking, "Dude, you are taking this way too serious," but I feel that something as important as moderator shouldn't be viewed as 'fun'. That's not saying you can't have fun being a moderator, but there are times when you need to act in a serious manner, and if you never take your duty serious, how can your serious actions be viewed as such?

Now, to cast my vote, I would like to re-elect Yawgmoth, for the reasons that Chruser has stated. He is unfamiliar with anyone here or how things operate, and if change is going to happen, it is going to come from someone who is unfamiliar with the way things work. I feel that when he returns, if he ever decides to, that he may be granted a moderator position again. Especially with the upcoming wave of Diablo 3 fanatics that are expected.
Besides him though, I think Thanatos or Willkillforfood would be good moderators. They seem pretty levelheaded, and have been here a while. They have also shown intelligence and knowledge of the English language, which seems to be something that is lacking here as of late. So, in my parting words, I leave you with the following chants:

THAN'S THE MAN TO BANISH SPAM!
and
WILLKILL WILL THRILL!


I know... it's cheesy... but all campaign slogans are...
deal

[Kazilla]

I don't think having the ability to form correct sentences has anything to do with anyones ability to be a valid moderator. People can capitalize letters and use comma's when appropriate. It's not rocket science. However, the ability to be active in my opinion is the most important aspect to the new moderator. Chruser has pointed out that the position is more or less a spam control position. Not many threads/posts on this forum require much moderation. In fact the only ones I can think of at this moment are the ones that KA has abused his power in. Which is pretty ironic if you think about it.

Now, onto what I think the ideal moderator has.

1. An understanding of this forum, and what its purpose is. (How can you respresent something you know nothing about)
2. An understanding of what a moderator is. (In my eye's a moderator is little more then an internet cop. He is meant to enforce the rules.)
3. Activity, activity, and oh yea... activity. (The most annoying leader is one who never shows up)
4. The voice of his followers. (ie. The community, some of us are throwing idea's out as fast as possible. Awaiting word from a staff member that can do something about it. I would like the new moderator to be in a position to carry on our idea's. Moderators should be able to contact staff faster then a member can.)

The poll's should be up soon. The voting will begin and we will soon see who our next moderator will be!

btw, typing all proper and what not is just annoying and takes twice as long. i prefer to type like this because i can do it much faster ;)

[D3V]

I think there are a few things everyone here is forgetting.

Who brings MORE activity and ideas to these boards?
Who has done so in the past?
Who has the potential and shown that they can do more, given they are in a higher position?

I think just basing it off of whom you might like, or who you enjoy reading posts from shouldn't be your number one criteria. You should atleast take into consideration of who can make Zelaron better, who can spark new activity and enlighten new posts. If you are nominating or choosing somebody because you just like them for their shit-talking or because you both like Sports, or both like Anime, or the same music, then you are being biased and the whole point of nominating another Mod (besides being a spam-bot remover, which i'm sure essentially anyone who posts 4 times a day can take care of) is to make this place better as a whole.

[Kazilla]

Eh, Are you implying that having the moderator tag somehow magically attracts new members? Because if you are, you are wrong. The only way we are going to get new members is to suggest new idea's, present them, and then act upon them. If a bran new member showed up and in his opening post said he knows how to increase the activity tenfold and then does it, does he deserve a moderator tag? The entire moderator essence is really only there because Chruser and WW can't be online 24/7. If they could then they would have no need for any moderators. Because they can't they aquired the assistance of Yawgmoth, Lenny, and that other guy. Yawgmoth and the other guy have shown little concern for the state of this forum. While Lenny is showing his true colors and actually doing things for this forum.

(and consequently, additional, active protection from spam bots)
He is telling you your basically only going to be given this position to control the spam.

Again, the moderator tag DOES NOT magically imbue you with the ability to draw in members.

[D3V]

Eh, Are you implying that having the moderator tag somehow magically attracts new members? Because if you are, you are wrong. The only way we are going to get new members is to suggest new idea's, present them, and then act upon them. If a bran new member showed up and in his opening post said he knows how to increase the activity tenfold and then does it, does he deserve a moderator tag? The entire moderator essence is really only there because Chruser and WW can't be online 24/7. If they could then they would have no need for any moderators. Because they can't they aquired the assistance of Yawgmoth, Lenny, and that other guy. Yawgmoth and the other guy have shown little concern for the state of this forum. While Lenny is showing his true colors and actually doing things for this forum.


He is telling you your basically only going to be given this position to control the spam.

Again, the moderator tag DOES NOT magically imbue you with the ability to draw in members.

Did you even read my post?... :confused:

I'm not saying you have to draw in members, and I'm not a nominee for the biggest retard of the year award, so it's obvious by changing a title doesn't bring new members in. I'm saying, you should use your "power/privledges" towards good and promote the forums and new ideas, while motivating existing good ideas..

:rolleyes:

[Draco2003]

In my post, the proper grammar thing and spelling is important, because if someone in a position of power can't bring together a sentence, I wouldn't trust his judgement on much else. Obviously, there are people still in school that are learning, or just don't care, as you stated. But when someone's posts consist of 90%: "Te'h Lo:LERzka,t,eZORS!!1!" and 10%: "BANNED, I LOVE MM'BOP!!1!!1 Ddo,'t dis:like HAnsEn AGEN!1!!" I think that speaks volumes of their character.

Something I forgot in my "CON" argument: I am not very active in much of the rest of the forum. I occasionally hit up the video game sections, entertainment sections, but I tend to stay in the "General" section. Also, I can't contribute to sports that much...

[Kazilla]

In reality, someone with less responsibility could spend more time promoting something then someone with more responsibility.

ie. D3v gets new Supreme Mod, and is asked to watch from 3-4pm for spam bots, as it is apparent that they strike durring those times.
Kazilla who isnt weighed down with mindless spam control visits other sites freely, and posts knowing he doesn't have to worry about missing a spam bot.

Moderator has nothing to do with activity, promotion, or demotion. It is a title with a fancy saying when broken down says, "Hey! I enforce teh rules!"

Now, like I said earlier. It would be nice for someone to take our words straight to the staff. Any member can do this though so, im still unsure about that subject. I have posted about three posibilities in order to clean up or increase activity within the gaming section. Should this qualify me as Supreme Moderator because, I haven't seen many other suggestions recently. (I dont possess a cocky tone when saying this, if you know of some recent suggestions please link them)

Edit for the Draco's post while I was responding to D3v.

Really its a matter of preference. Imagine a world where everyone hated how the English talked. Lenny would get thrown around three different ways from Sunday. Who cares how they talk, as long as they get the job done. If you got a 1337 speaking moderator that actually does it well, and follows the rules. What does it matter?

[D3V]

.. You make it sound like clicking 2-3 times per account and eliminating the issue is this huge complicated, elaborate problem that requires a multi-cabinent team to enforce the stellar forum-interactive police state. It's really not a big deal. Now like I said, I really think a Sup Mod/Mod should be there more than just a spam-filter. They should be there to help their specific forum out, or the boards in general. If you want to keep arguing, please make a new thread and i'll be happy to take sides in there and let everyone else deliberate on what they think a Moderator/Sup Mod should be, for these boards.

[Chruser]

Nominations are closed. Vote here: http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46783