Warhammer Online

[Kazilla]

SERVERS ARE LIVE!!! WAAAGH!!!!!!

Who are you?

Kazilla
Server - Bechafen (RvR)
Faction - Destruction
Race - Goblin
Class - Shaman (Gnarg)

WetWired
Server - Wasteland (Core)
Faction - Order
Race - High Elf
Class - Archmage (Ira), Swordmaster (Tatyana), BrightWizard (Zhenya)

Backstory (for those who want the lore)
Warhammer's Lore (http://warhammeronline.com/gamebackstory/index.php)

System Requirements

Windows XP
2.5 GHz P4 (single core) processor or equivalent
1 Gigabyte RAM
A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
At least 15 GB of hard drive space

Windows Vista
2.5 GHz P4 processor or equivalent
2 Gigabyte RAM
A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
At least 15 GB of hard drive space

Supported Videocards

ATI Radeon (TM) series
9500, 9600, 9800
X300, X600, X700, X800, X850
X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900, X1950
2400, 2600, 2900
3650, 3850, 3870
4850, 4870

Nvidia GeForce Series
FX 5900, FX 5950
6600, 6800
7600, 7800, 7900, 7950
8400, 8500, 8600, 8800
9400, 9500, 9600, 9800
GTX 260, GTX 280

Intel(R) Extreme Graphics
GMA X4500

Server Definetions

Core (http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_servers)
Core servers are just what you'd expect. These are servers that have everything Warhammer has to offer, with no special changes to the normal ruleset. RvR is confined to lakes and Scenarios, and there are two opposing realms engaged in the WAR. Players may only engage in Player vs. Player combat when flagged to do so in specific areas around the world. Select a Core ruleset server for the original exciting gameplay experience that WAR was designed to offer.

Open RVR (http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_servers)
The Open RvR servers feature RvR flagging everywhere except for the Tier 1 Chapter area and the surrounding PvE content. Once players leave this area, they will be flagged for RvR anywhere in the game. Open RvR servers are perfect for those who want to add an extra challenge to their gaming experience. Players must constantly watch their backs or risk attack by enemies everywhere they go! Only members of opposing realms may attack each other; the Open RvR server still focuses on Order versus Destruction.

RP/Open RVR (http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_servers)
Any server flagged as Roleplay will follow the same rules as above, but with an additional set of guidelines. These servers are for those players who enjoy truly immersing themselves into the Warhammer lore by acting as their characters' personalities in-game. Players who opt to participate on a Role Playing server must agree to far more specific rules regarding naming, and it is suggested that players would adhere to WAR or high fantasy conduct and behavior.

Server List

Core (US)
Red Eye Mountain - Skull Throne - Badlands - Sylvania - Gorfang - Grimnir - Rakarth - Kislev - Be`lackor - Tor Achare - Reikland - Middenheim - Marienburg - Kragg - Volkmar - Monolith - Saphery - Thorgrim - Heldenhammer - Sea of Claws - Wasteland - Sea of Malice - Drakwald - Ironfist - Drifting Castle

Open RVR (US)
Hochland - Wolfenburg - Dark Crag - Praag - Wurtbad - Stoutheart - Artois -Southlands - Bugman - Bechafen

Roleplay (US)
Phoenix Throne - Skavenblight - Avelorn

RP/Open RVR (US)
Chaos Wastes - Tower of Doom - Vaul's Anvil

Warhammer Cinematics

Number 1
http://www.youtube.com/v/JglnSrfJtyQ

Number 2
http://www.youtube.com/v/zKOhzfkCdbY

Races and Classes

Order

Dwarf
Ironbreaker (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/dwarfs/Ironbreaker.php) - Rune Priest (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/dwarfs/Runepriest.php) - Engineer (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/dwarfs/DwarfEngineer.php)


Empire
Bright Wizard (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/empire/BrightWizard.php) - Warrior Priest (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/empire/warriorpriest.php) - Witch Hunter (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/empire/WitchHunter.php)


High Elf
Sword Master (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/highelves/Swordmaster.php) - Archmage (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/highelves/Archmage.php) - Shadow Warrior (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/highelves/ShadowWarrior.php) - White Lion (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/highelves/WhiteLion.php)


Destruction

Greenskins
Black Orc (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/greenskins/BlackOrc.php) - Shaman (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/greenskins/GoblinShaman.php) - Squig Herder (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/greenskins/GoblinSquigHerder.php)


Chaos
Chosen (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/dwarfs/chaos.php) - Magus (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/dwarfs/chaos.php) - Zealot (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/dwarfs/chaos.php) - Marauder (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/dwarfs/chaos.php)


Dark Elf
Witch Elf (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/darkelves/WitchElf.php) - Sorceress (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/darkelves/Sorceress.php) - Disciple of Khaine (http://warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/darkelves/Disciple.php)

Frequently Asked Questions
Warhammer FAQ's (http://warhammeronline.com/faq/index.php)

Zelaron's Warhammer Section
Warhammer Public Usergroup (http://zelaron.com/forum/group.php?groupid=19)

I will continue to update this page with fresh information, or requested information. Hopefully drawing some more interest into this game.

[WetWired]

I played this a bit in the beta and have pre-ordered the game. While it does steal a lot of stuff from WoW, that's not always a bad thing. It has an interesting feel to it and public quests are a blast.

[Kazilla]

Actually WoW stole alot of things from Warhammer, and Warhammer stole alot of things from Dungeons and Dragons >_<. World of Warcraft was just the first to turn it into a decent MMO (guild wars failed). All further MMO's that don't follow suit will is an attempt in changing the way MMO players game.

I have about five friends included my girlfriend who will be playing this. I will see how they think about a Zelaron guild. Perhaps I can persuade them into joining Zelaron as the guild would be hosted here. Should also result in a show of activity for members looking to join depending on how popular we get.

[WetWired]

You're a moron. WoW came out four years before Warhammer. The stuff Warhammer stole is gameplay related. Noone but noone gives a damn about any story/senario similarities.

[Kazilla]

Without Dungeons and Dragons there would have been no Warhammer, and without Warhammer there would have been no World of Warcraft. To say that World of Warcraft thought of everyone by itself and stole no idea's from anything is absurd. Dungeons and Dragons created multiplayer questing, and roleplaying. Take that away from World of Warcraft and you have nothing.

[Sovereign]

When I got into the beta I was excited... when I played the beta it all faded away.

I'd stick with wow.

[Kazilla]

I can't return to WoW... I have since deleted all of my 70's in an attempt to escape its grasps! So, I found refuge in Warhammer ;).

[WetWired]

Again, you're retarded or blind. Read what I'm saying. World of Warcraft put together the set of gameplay details that resulted in a fun and profitable experience. There were many MMORPGs before WoW, but they did not have all those features. Almost every good feature from WoW has been put in Warhammer. Warhammer gameplay is like WoW's gameplay refined for four years by the devs and mod makers. They've added many good features of their own and from other games, but at the core, the gameplay is a ripoff from WoW. I'm not talking about the things that make it a multiplayer RPG; of course it has those things -- that's what it is.

[WetWired]

For me it was the opposite. I thought "My friend isn't using his beta account. I'm kind of interested in what it's like." The longer I waited for the download, the less interested I became, but when I actually started playing, I didn't want to stop.

[Kazilla]

World of Warcraft innovated every aspect of Dungeons and Dragons..

Dungeons and Dragons put together the set of gameplay details that resulted in a fun experience.


World of Warcraft put together the set of gameplay details that resulted in a fun and profitable experience.


Tell me, how can you pretend like WoW came up with this stuff?

[WetWired]

You can you be so hard headed? We're talking about computer games here. And as a computer game, WoW was very innovative.

[Kazilla]

I agree it was, but it took what DND created to make WoW. WoW didn't think of anything for itself. Everything in it has come from DND.

[WetWired]

Again, this is the forum where we discuss computer games, not paper and pencil games.

[Vollstrecker]

I agree it was, but it took what DND created to make WoW. WoW didn't think of anything for itself. Everything in it has come from DND.

DnD was also heavily inspired by fantasy literature before that, this is always a stupid fucking repetitive argument where we measure the imaginative phalli of our favorite game/universe/blah blah.

I'm often the first person to point out Blizzard's habit of blatantly stealing material, but goddamn you must not speak the english or something.


Edit: For something on-topic, I'm mostly of a mind with Sovereign. Played the Beta 6 months ago, shit sucked. Played again about a week ago, was a little better, but still ended up sucking. Mythic's concept of balance is slightly retarded and it's buggier than hell STILL, with it being released what, this week?

[WetWired]

So what server are you playing on, Kaz? (Or anyone else that's playing)

[Kazilla]

DnD was also heavily inspired by fantasy literature
I'm sure it did, however the argument was that WoW stole things from past games. If we were to argue about what DND took from then there would be another whole 12 or so posts on it. What did fantasy literature steal from? That is the question.

So what server are you playing on, Kaz? (Or anyone else that's playing)
I wasn't able to get into beta, so I don't know the current server situation. I'll see if I can google a list in a little bit, ill post and call my buddies see what they are playing on.

~Update, I will most likely be playing on one of the RVR servers. I definetly won't be on the Roleplay however, there is a chance I will make an appearance on a Core server. That all depends how bad the ganking (is that what they call it on WAR?) is.

~Update, I originally planned to create a Goblin Shaman in order to enhance my friends in combat. We all decided on destruction. I'll create a who's playing who up top once I get some feedback. Goblin Shaman is still my idea, however I'm unsure as to which server they are playing on atm. They are big Warhammer fans, and I could actually seeing some of them playing on a RP server. We will see how it goes though.

Which server/faction/class/race are you going to play?

[WetWired]

I'm going to start with a High Elf Healer/Mage class like I did in beta, so I guess it doesn't matter. I'd do a RvR realm, but I don't think I'll be devoting the time I'd need for that to be viable (I'd need to have a group of people to level with and I'd probably fall behind). You can find a list of realms on the warhammer site under realm status, though it doesn't list types. I'm going to create my characters during lunch today.

[Kazilla]

I found a site on google that listed each realm along with its type, and then I also found the definitions of each realm. I added them above.

[WetWired]

I'm order on wasteland
Ira Archmage
Tatyana Swordmaster
Zhenya Bright Wizard

[Vollstrecker]

Destruction is the new Alliance, all of my guildies have switched to Order since Open Beta.

[Kazilla]

I remember seeing somewhere they had a map of the US. Within each regeion they showed the # of Order players and the # of Destruction players. Not one region had more Order then Destruction. Depending on the balance between the two I might end up rolling a dwarf of some sort.

[WetWired]

You haven't made your characters yet?!?!

[Kazilla]

No, I didn't preorder the CE. I got a call from Gamestop tonight saying that my game will be in tomorrow before noon.

WW, do you have any buddies playing with you on your server? I'm not to sure how much my friends will play seeing as they all have families and what not. I might just roll on my own server, although that can get really borring, unless you make some friends.

[WetWired]

Nope, I don't know anyone else playing. I didn't preorder the Collectors Edition. Normal preorders started playing at 7am today. Getting the normal box tomorrow won't do you much good, either, since the retail key won't work untill Thursday. What you need is the key from the preorder box.

[Willkillforfood]

That's called a good-ole-fashion shafting. That's bullshit, btw. A bit too much of a reward for preorders, imo.

[WetWired]

Actually, it's more for their benefit than the customers'. Doing this forces the userbase to come on in stages spreading them out among the lands and improving everyone's experience. It's probably still going to be pretty crowded for the people who pick up the game on Thursday, but it'll still be a lot better than everyone in the same place trying to do the same quests at the same time.

[Kazilla]

Did you get a chance to experience the "camp" that you get with preorders? I forget its actual name, but it allows you to regenerate health and mana a little bit faster while resting, is it significant at all?

[WetWired]

The camp has a 60minute cooldown, works in combat, and restores 2% of nearby party members' health every 5 seconds for 5 minutes. It appears as a campfire. It's probably not going to keep you alive on its own, but it could be helpful for boss fights where you'd have a chance to get a lot of healing from it. Not sure if it works indoors. The ring is probably better in the beginning. It gives bonuses to 6-9 stats (It's a level 1 purple). Neither of these items work in PvP, I've heard. The ring will become obsolete once rings become easier to find, and the 60 minute cooldown puts the advantage from the camp on par with the long cooldown engineering items you could make in WoW.

[Kazilla]

Nope, I don't know anyone else playing. I didn't preorder the Collectors Edition. Normal preorders started playing at 7am today. Getting the normal box tomorrow won't do you much good, either, since the retail key won't work untill Thursday. What you need is the key from the preorder box.
I did preorder the game, and I'm getting the box today. That means I should be able to play today huh?

[WetWired]

If you didn't get a box when you pre-ordered, you're probably SOL. The pre-order box has the codes for the open beta, the early start, and the items. If you're lucky, you might be able to get one when you pick it up.

[Kazilla]

My mom's car battery died so I as forced to drive 30 mins out of my way to pick her up... I need to get to Gamestop!!!!

[Kazilla]

Ok so, I'm having some technical issues, what do you think is the problem WW.

[Attempt.1]
I logged in, and durring the loading screen (the one that looks like a book). Warhammer crashed and I was booted out

[Attempt.2]
I logged back in, managed to load the UI up this time. Walked about 10 feet when it happened again. I figured maybe I should just restart my computer.

[Attempt.3]
Got logged in and actually managed to collect some quests, ran around the little starting area and started to kill me some dwarfs. All of a sudden BSOD... Had to restart my computer again.

[Attempt.4]
Tried a different server, had the same result as [Attempt.1], which in theory says that if I try again on my first server I should manage to get even further.

Why is this happening? My computer should be able to handle this game. I don't get it.

To clarify a little bit, the first 2 attempts it kicked me to my desktop. No warning or sudden glitch then kick, just a big`ol boot up my ass...

The BSOD isn't your typical BSOD in that there is no text on this one, My CPU was making a loud noise, a constant hum if you will. And my screen was entirely blue. No text just blue.


Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz 2.79 Ghz
1.00 GB of RAM
RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory
RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory Secondary




Windows XP
2.5 GHz P4 (single core) processor or equivalent
1 Gigabyte RAM
A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0 (<--whats that?)
At least 15 GB of hard drive space (<--have that)

Supported Videocards

ATI Radeon (TM) series
9500, 9600, 9800
X300, X600, X700, X800, X850
X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900, X1950
2400, 2600, 2900
3650, 3850, 3870
4850, 4870

[WetWired]

I don't know. Neither I nor the person who's beta key I used had any such trouble. I'd suggest updating your video drivers and possibly try it without crossfire.

[Kazilla]

The Hardware Update Wizard found no updates for either card. I did a google search and it looks like people are claiming this game hates ATI video cards and or that you should have 2-4gig of ram...

What are you running it on?

[WetWired]

GFFX8800GTS, 2GB ram, Athlon 64 X2 4600+

WTF is a hardware update wizard and why do you trust it? Go to ATI's website and see what the latest drivers are.

[Kazilla]

Start > Control Panel > Hardwar > Device Manager > Rclick and update... I don't know why I use it, it's all I have ever really had to do.

I went to the site and downloaded an update. It's now ATI Catalyst X300/X500/X1050 Series. When downloading it, I got a message that said I need to install .NET framework before running this application.

WTF is .NET and do I still need to go download .NET even though on my computer it says the card has been updated?

[WetWired]

.Net framework is a runtime library for a variety of different technologies. You'll need it for a lot of stuff, these days.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=333325fd-ae52-4e35-b531-508d977d32a6

[Kazilla]

New defintion, old problem..

Problem: Computer doesn't like Warhammer..

Definition: What happens is like, I'll be running through and then all of a sudden my screen will minimize, bring up my desktop and the game will of closed before I finish loading my desktop. Updating my drivers didn't fix it. :(

[WetWired]

How frequently does this happen? Have you tried windowed mode?

[Kazilla]

From the time I had installed it to now im going to say about 6 times. 9pm GMT - 5pm GMT.. Im only rank 7 so that should give you an idea of how long I've been playing. As far as frequency goes the

first time was immediate.
second was about 10mins in
third was about an hour in
fourth was immediate (<--tried new server thought maybe mine was unstable or something)
fifth was about 2 hours in
sixth was maybe 30mins

Times are guessed but, approx. The last time i was in windows mode, the game itself ran alot smoother but I still have the CTD (crash to desktop, its what they are calling it) error.

[WetWired]

Don't know what to tell you, then.

[Kazilla]

I heard they have been aware of CTD since beta. Kinda leaves me hanging... I guess i might not be able to play until they fix it. Well, I can play but man it's demoralizing...

[Asamin]

Without Dungeons and Dragons there would have been no Warhammer, and without Warhammer there would have been no World of Warcraft. To say that World of Warcraft thought of everyone by itself and stole no idea's from anything is absurd. Dungeons and Dragons created multiplayer questing, and roleplaying. Take that away from World of Warcraft and you have nothing.

You have a cool name.

[Kazilla]

huh? im confused

[Asamin]

I just basically said that all you would have left is a name.

[Kazilla]

..Oh, Anyway WetWired!!

I found something interesting, I went onto another server and tried it out after logging into my FULL 300+ destruction server and immedetly being CTD'ed. and everything was working fine, I logged out of the Order character I had made and went to change servers when I saw this..

Request Timed Out and it had two options. Exit to loader or Exit to desktop. Do you think there is some way it is overriding decision and just exiting to the desktop?

[WetWired]

Maybe a keypress?

[Kazilla]

I think I figured out why I am CTD..

That is durring the opening sequence. Once the game actually started WAR.exe jumped up to 96 to 99% CPU Usage. Using about 100,000 Kb worth of memory... If I understand memory correctly.. then my 1Gb of RAM isn't enough for this game.

My question to you is, would the computer end a funtion that was using all of its memory? Im assuming my computer is closing it because it doesn't have the resources to attend to other functions.

Is upgrading RAM as easy as buying the correct piece and sticking it in?
and
Is upgrading ram going to fix it, or would I have to purchase other things along with it, like a video card or something?

[WetWired]

A program may end suddenly if it is unable to allocate memory, though this would be dependant on both your physical and virtual memory.

[Kazilla]

I'm not sure whether you were asking me what mine were but, this is what I have..

Virtual Memory: 1536 MB
Physical Memory: 1 GB

Anything I can do?

[WetWired]

You should have more virtual memory than that.

[Kazilla]

4851

Right?

[WetWired]

Are you low on HD space?

[Kazilla]

I have about 15 GB left on my 70 Gig HD.

[WetWired]

I'd say first, try turning off your anti-virus. Second, buy more physical memory. Looking at it again, it seems that windows recommends 150% of your physical memory as your virtual memory size, whereas I've always set it at 200% fixed in a contiguous block on my HD (with a variable size page file, as your HD fills up, your page file becomes more fragmented and this reduces performance).

[Kazilla]

http://www.youtube.com/v/T9lkROoMvco

WetWired, do you play this laggy? That is about how I play.. some of the comments also was wondering, if I got another Gig of RAM would wit be alot smoother?

[WetWired]

In general, my experience is lag free (though I do have a problem where pathing NPCs show up where they'll end up before they get there, I don't think that's actually lag). I do have loading freezeups, however. The guy in the video had lag as well as a system problem. I am no expert in diagnosing the source of slowdown. I'd say if your HD light is blinking contantly while you're playing, you could benefit from more RAM. Otherwise, your issue is elsewhere.

My issue is clearly with viewing areas that are not precached, mostly when I quickly change camera direction.

[Kazilla]

I'll watch for my HD light next time I start up. If I am roaming on a path camera straight and just running it's smooth as butter, otherwise it gets pretty choppy like the guy above.

[Willkillforfood]

Holy shit, that looks so much like WOW it could almost be mistaken for it.

[Kazilla]

..... We're not going to go through that again..

[Willkillforfood]

Haha, that's the first ingame footage I've seen. That's not-so-good framerates though.

[Kazilla]

Ok so, the first 10 minutes or so I had a solid HD light. After that it would flicker everytime I moved camera, or used 'flee'.

[Asamin]

..... We're not going to go through that again..

Yes we are. That is an almost exact copy of Wow. Just move a few things around and you get warhammer. That is gay.

[WetWired]

Warhammer built upon the successful model of WoW. That is a good thing. Warhammer especially makes vast strides on WoW in terms of PvP.

[Kazilla]

Yes we are. That is an almost exact copy of Wow. Just move a few things around and you get warhammer. That is gay.
Wow, ok fine.. I'll agree Warhammer took the UI feel of WoW.. and WoW took every aspect of roleplaying from Warhammer...

Warhammer took the shell
Wow took the innerds.

[WetWired]

The original Warhammer isn't even an RPG. It's a TBS.

[Kazilla]

You still have stats, and objectives, n such. It's just annoying when people compare warhammer to WoW. When dnd started most of it.

1 Think I hate about Warhammer, is all people do in guilds is talk about fkn WoW... I've left 2 guilds because of that it's fkn rediculous.

[Sum Yung Guy]

I started to read this thread to get hyped up on Warhammer.... thanks Kaz and WW for making me not want to read the whole thread.

[Kazilla]

Lol, the first post has all the information // I should update it a little bit since the game as been released. Ill work on it sometime today.

[Sum Yung Guy]

Oh and Warhammer took all the best ideas from other succesful online games took make its own game. And previous games took the best ideas from previous games that took the best ideas from previous games.

As long as they also have their own ideas as well as good ideas from other games there should be no arguing about it.

[Kazilla]

It's not so much arguing as trying to inform the idiots that Warhammer didn't steal shit from WoW. Fkn WoW fan boys.

[WetWired]

I think you're the fan boy if you're too blind to see that clearly when they started development, they went down the list of features in every MMO on the market and decided whether it made sense for their game. The reason they used so many features existant in WoW is because it obviously got a lot of things right. The fact of the matter is that if you've played WoW there's little adjustment needed to play War.

[Kazilla]

I agree with that statement. When you have a good basic shell (ie. Wow's UserInterface) you keep it. GuildWars even has some stuff that WoW doesn't. But What I am argueing is that World of Warcraft didn't think to put Dwarf's against Orc's. Nor did they think to incorporate quests, and pvp. Nor did they incorporate anything MMO. All they did was for the first time create an eye pleasing experience, when before it was all your imagination.

[Kazilla]

So, WetWired.. I finally figured out why my character was so under leveled. Playing GuildWars for so long followed by a few years of World of Warcraft, you get into the habit of questing for levels, pvp is just a time eater when it comes to leveling. You usually avoid it all together. I read some posts on warhammeralliance.com and found out how wrong I was actually playing this game. I knew that WAR was going to be rvr based, I guess I just didnt understand the concept.

How to correctly play Warhammer Online:
1) From the get-go, Queue for a scenario.
2) While waiting for queue, collect, finish, and turn in any and all quests.
3) Join Scenario, rvr to your hearts content.
4) Leave queue, re-queue. Collect, complete, and turn in any and all quests.
5) Join Scenatio, rvr to your hearts content.
::rinse lather and repeat::

I've started a new Chosen Chaos on the server Bretonnia (the one my friends are all on). So far I am level 8, rank 8 and in chapter 2. I've collected over 1 gold so far, and have finished my PQ's. Honestly this is how the game was meant to be played. If you only quest you will end up like my shaman,.. underleveled.

[WetWired]

At this point, I'm waiting for rank 20 before I do any more RvR. Too far from the warcamp to be traveling on foot. The rewards before level 20 really aren't all that great, anyway.

[Kazilla]

Currently in chapter 2, about 1/2 through an am l10r10.. Now that I understand wtf to do leveling is a breeze.