Should D3V be unbanned? [Archive] - Zelaron Gaming Forum

Willkillforfood

2008-07-09, 09:13 AM

I have no problem with D3v. However, it seems as though he has scared off some valuable members. I really do not know how or why, but I'd rather that not happen anymore -- so if he were to come back he'd need to not scare off peeps :P.

Thanatos

2008-07-09, 09:50 AM

However, it seems as though he has scared off some valuable members. I really do not know how or why, but I'd rather that not happen anymore -- so if he were to come back he'd need to not scare off peeps :P.

Taken from the other thread:

All I'm saying is this ban is trivial since he didn't drive anybody away. MJ left for personal reasons and Grav left because posting on a forum is immature and he's somehow above that. You're the only person that was going to leave because of D3V. You guys just need to squash your harsh feelings for each other because you're both some of my favorite posters on this board. Learn to get along. You can't argue that D3V is a contributing member in one way or another. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks that; yes he can be an enormous ass at times but I still think he's valued here.

So, in all reality, I don't think he scared anybody away.

!King_Amazon!

2008-07-09, 10:02 AM

So, in all reality, I don't think he scared anybody away.

In the real reality, your facts are wrong.

Jessifer

2008-07-09, 10:05 AM

WetWired

2008-07-09, 10:15 AM

I personally don't really care whether he's unbanned or not. If he is unbanned however, it's my personal opinion that there should be a way for people who didn't want him back to be able to block his posts.

In fact, I think it'd be great to be able to block members' posts in general.
You're looking for this icon http://zelaron.com/forum/images/synth/deepblue/misc/ignore.gif, which has been available for many, many years. Since vB3.0 days at least. And you could still block people before that. Right now, it appears when you mouse over the avatar area of a post by a non-staff member.

Vault Dweller

2008-07-09, 10:19 AM

Jessifer

2008-07-09, 10:23 AM

Oh, well then...never mind. :) That's probably why I never noticed it.

Thanatos

2008-07-09, 10:35 AM

I won't say the ban was unjustified. To use his own terminology, D3v can be a royal douchcanoe at times.

Nevertheless, on the subject of his being immature, I've found a number of the new members to be much less mature than D3v (obviously because they are younger than he) to the point where this forum is beginning to annoy me.
I miss the random news-related threads he perpetually started, which generally prompted long discussions.

Fuck it. Bring him back.

What I've been saying for at least a month now. These forums are annoying, dude to the influx of young, immature members. It's actually stopping me from posting in threads because I don't want to be involved in childish spam.

Bottom line is this: He was a contributing member that was an asshole at times. But who isn't, honestly? We're all assholes at times, that's what makes this forum so great, IMO. Drama@Zelaron is hilarious.

Thanatos

2008-07-09, 10:38 AM

You're looking for this icon http://zelaron.com/forum/images/synth/deepblue/misc/ignore.gif, which has been available for many, many years. Since vB3.0 days at least. And you could still block people before that. Right now, it appears when you mouse over the avatar area of a post by a non-staff member.

Which is also my point. If you don't like D3v, simply block him! That's what Medieval Bob did in the past. There's no reason to ban a contributing, valued member simply because you don't like him.

I have a feeling if KA wasn't part of the staff, D3V wouldn't be banned. And no I'm not blaming you or pointing fingers, it's just an observation.

In the real reality, your facts are wrong.

I'm trying to be mature about this. You should do the same.

Lenny

2008-07-09, 10:46 AM

Bottom line is this: He was a contributing member that was an asshole at times. But who isn't, honestly? We're all assholes at times, that's what makes this forum so great, IMO. Drama@Zelaron is hilarious.

QFT.

I'd like to see him back. D@Z is so much better with him, and he was a member who contributed a lot. Sure, he was a prick with the whole MJ saga, but I've never had trouble with him. You could argue that those who did have trouble with him exacerbated the situation by rising to his bait and not just Blocking him, which is something I suggested on a couple of occasion's.

jamer123

2008-07-09, 12:13 PM

you mean me right

-Spector-

2008-07-09, 01:39 PM

I didn't care for him to much.

jamer123

2008-07-09, 01:56 PM

i did he was a friend to me. he helped me when i first started out at zelaron and i would like him back

Wallow

2008-07-09, 06:02 PM

Wed-G

2008-07-09, 07:12 PM

I think it was justfied to ban him, but he should be unbanned and given another chance. Kinda like parole. If he breaks any rules again, he should be banned without any thought. It's as simple as that

That's just it though. He's been banned so many times for the same things. I don't think it should be expected for him to change, I would like to see others change and just ignore him.

I feel he's too much of an asset to the community to lose. Block him if you hate him, listen to him if you like him, and don't take ANY insult from him seriously, it's really that easy. He trolls so don't pay any attention to the negative side of him.

talentedhamster

2008-07-09, 07:20 PM

bring him back!

Willkillforfood

2008-07-10, 04:25 AM

I honestly think he should be allowed back. If he tries to run off good people, like MJ (who never did shit to anyone) then he needs to be hit with the ban stick again.

Thanatos

2008-07-10, 07:23 AM

Instead of losing 1 good member, we're losing 2 good members...

!King_Amazon!

2008-07-10, 09:09 AM

I find it funny how nobody has voted for "the ban was unjustified," but rather "he contributed too much."

Contributing a lot does not make one immune to the rules, especially when they are at the point that D3v was. Mjordan is not the only person who has left because of D3v. Slim left because of D3v way back. Medieval Bob said that D3v was a large part of why he left.

Like I've said before, I don't deny D3v contributed a lot, but he also did potentially a lot of harm that seems to be going unnoticed.

Hancock

2008-07-10, 10:56 PM

This thread delivers!

Goodlookinguy

2008-07-11, 12:37 AM

This thread delivers!

Your comment was unnecessary!
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Personally, I've never had a problem with D3V. I also question why so many people take offense. We're online! It's as a saying, I think, goes, "Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

I don't believe his actions were without ban for a set period of time, like a month or two. I just don't believe permanent ban was necessary. All of his random threads brought about more activity which we're in dire need of. I admit that some of the old members coming back has increased productivity of the forums. However the case, with D3V back it will influence and increase more activity.

Kinda like parole. If he breaks any rules again, he should be banned without any thought. It's as simple as that

I think something like that should be called to order. Maybe make a new group and put him in the "Paroled" group. All of his posts have to be moderated for a certain amount of time. If he proves himself well, then he will be returned back to normal. Hopefully, not to screw up again.

!King_Amazon!

2008-07-11, 08:51 AM

I just don't believe permanent ban was necessary.

D3v was permanently banned in the past, and has been banned a shitton of times other than that. You just weren't around then.

quikspy67

2008-07-11, 02:34 PM

Lol well it look like he's unbanned now.

!King_Amazon!

2008-07-11, 03:35 PM

No he isn't. He has been viewing the forums, but that is all. As far as I know, you can still view the forums when you're banned, but that's about it.

Thanatos

2008-07-11, 04:13 PM

cool

i want to be like u when i grow up kingamazonian

!King_Amazon!

2008-07-11, 05:49 PM

cool

i want to be like u when i grow up kingamazonian
Ok douchebag.

Hancock

2008-07-11, 08:34 PM

http://zelaron.com/forum/faq.php?faq=rules#faq_no_trolling

You may not post derogatory messages about sensitive subjects and controversial topics with the primary purpose of baiting someone into an emotional response, or to disrupt on-topic discussion.

Why must you care so much what is said online, you guys don't actually take this place seriously do you?..

!King_Amazon!

2008-07-11, 10:07 PM

http://zelaron.com/forum/faq.php?faq=rules#faq_no_trolling

Why must you care so much what is said online, you guys don't actually take this place seriously do you?..
Banned for being D3v.

BYE!!!

Goodlookinguy

2008-07-11, 10:46 PM

Banned for being D3v.

BYE!!!

!K_A!, did you ban Hancock?

!King_Amazon!

2008-07-11, 11:07 PM

Yes. Hancock is D3v.

Goodlookinguy

2008-07-12, 01:05 AM

Yes. Hancock is D3v.

Whoa, what? This is new to me. I'm guessing you looked up the IPs.

Thanatos

2008-07-12, 06:39 AM

I kinda figured he was D3v. Couldn't make it more inconspicuous eh???

!King_Amazon!

2008-07-12, 09:32 AM

I kinda figured he was D3v. Couldn't make it more inconspicuous eh???
He actually did a pretty good job of covering it up, honestly. In the beginning, he asked why he couldn't post without a mod approving his post, making it look like he didn't actually know about the approval system. Also, he posted his level/server in the WoW sticky, saying he played on server he doesn't play on. Not to mention that there isn't an exact IP match anyway, so doing an IP search on Hancock shows no matches with D3v. I had to actually look at both of their IP addresses and see that they're from the same place.

Thanatos

2008-07-12, 02:52 PM

He actually did a pretty good job of covering it up, honestly. In the beginning, he asked why he couldn't post without a mod approving his post, making it look like he didn't actually know about the approval system. Also, he posted his level/server in the WoW sticky, saying he played on server he doesn't play on. Not to mention that there isn't an exact IP match anyway, so doing an IP search on Hancock shows no matches with D3v. I had to actually look at both of their IP addresses and see that they're from the same place.

Wow. Are you looking for a congratulations or something? Job well done, Detective KA. You sure showed him!

!King_Amazon!

2008-07-12, 03:02 PM

Wow. Are you looking for a congratulations or something? Job well done, Detective KA. You sure showed him!

Actually it was more like pointing out that D3v is a sneaky bastard, but twist it however you want.

quikspy67

2008-07-12, 03:07 PM

Banned for being D3v.

BYE!!!

OWNED, nice.

Xenn

2008-07-12, 03:37 PM

Why was he banned in the first place? For posting some dirty pictures or something?

jamer123

2008-07-12, 03:38 PM

no xenn it was because he mouthed off to the wrong mod for one and he broke the rules too many times

!King_Amazon!

2008-07-12, 05:52 PM

no xenn it was because he mouthed off to the wrong mod for one and he broke the rules too many times
I don't know why, but sometimes you really really crack me up. It's almost like you actually have some wit somehow. It's great stuff.

jamer123

2008-07-12, 07:05 PM

!K_A! ive seen chruser say that in posts and he mouthed off to you when he was here when i was

Xenn

2008-08-01, 04:31 AM

Whoahoho check out that democracy in action.

WetWired

2008-08-01, 10:13 AM

Who ever said Zelaron was a democracy?

Thanatos

2008-08-01, 10:27 AM

So when is d3v gonna be unbanned?

Slim

2008-08-01, 11:14 AM

So when is d3v gonna be unbanned?

Maybe when he stops making new accounts. He's made at least 3 now to try and get back. It's almost sad.

!King_Amazon!

2008-08-01, 02:23 PM

So when is d3v gonna be unbanned?

Most likely never, but "never" will get longer and longer if he keeps doing what he is doing. I even talked to him about this a few days ago and he agreed that he's not making things any better for himself by making new usernames.

No more thread here. There's no point in this continuing to come up. The staff (notice I didn't say !King_Amazon!) have made the decision that D3v would be permanently banned, which was supported by Chruser himself, and that has not changed and most likely will not change in the future. If you feel you've got enough good reasons to convince us (notice once again that I said US, not !King_Amazon!,) take it to the Talk To The Staff forum.