D3V permanently banned

[Chruser]

For repeatedly breaking the Zelaron rules, for driving off GravitonSurge, Mjordan2nd and !King_Amazon!, and for ignoring repeated warnings by most staff members including myself.

I find it regrettable to have to go this far as he was a contributing member, but I have been far too lenient with him.

Consider this a starting point for some major change. We've been too passive in the past three years, allowing Zelaron to be a self-propelled machine suffocating in its own shadow. No more.

[Lenny]

Does this mean we can break out the canes and the truncheons? <3

Oh, and I'm in two minds about the banning, in all honesty. Yes, he did have moments when he was a complete dick (the whole MJ saga), but he's contributed a lot - the Automotive forum is going to shrivel up and die.

[!King_Amazon!]

It is certainly regrettable. As I have said numerous times, I would have preferred he just straighten up. He was a great member, when he wasn't being a jackass. Unfortunately, he just wouldn't change, even when Chruser himself told him to straighten up. Either way, he's gone now, and dwelling on that isn't going to help us any.

I think we all will have to make a conscious effort to bring some activity to the forums, now. Losing D3v will certainly have some sort of impact on activity. I see a lot of people say that they just don't find anything here interesting. If this is how you feel, try to figure out what would interest you. Post some things that interest you, or suggest new forums.

There are good things to come in Zelaron's future.

[Titusfied]

I think it's a mistake quite honestly. Granted, I haven't read all the posts that led up to all those people leaving, but that's probably because I was too busy reading all the good, contributing threads he started and posts he made. Back in the day, he was a lot more relentless and nothing was done about it, he simply became the whipping boy. For some reason people decided to start taking him seriously, and their feelings ended up getting hurt...

That is the part that I find ridiculous. I understand needing to get away from websites and this forum, because I fell in that stage myself, but I simply resigned as an Admin and just leisurely posted. I've continued that track for the last few years too, and things have been fine.

Banning someone permanently because a few members were too sensitive doesn't seem very justifiable. Then again, if all the members that left end up coming back and things have a turn for the better here, I'll agree that it was a good move, but I won't agree it was the correct one.

[-Spector-]

The "Few" members that he drove off were 10x better members then he will ever be. Losing one OK member and gaining three (or more) great, older members is a sacrifice that I am definitely willing to take.

[jamer123]

The "Few" members that he drove off were 10x better members then he will ever be. Losing one OK member and gaining three (or more) great, older members is a sacrifice that I am definitely willing to take.
if we lose people over time and get none then were losing people plus people are just going to the arcade for games so they dont log in and with armorgames and a bunch of others their gaining people while we are

[Vault Dweller]

if we lose people over time and get none then were losing people plus people are just going to the arcade for games so they dont log in and with armorgames and a bunch of others their gaining people while we are

Um...what now?

And, Spector, your post seems to indicate that the perma-ban of D3v will result in a return of those we've lost. Is this mere speculation or an educated conclusion?

I somehow missed the harassment he visited upon these members, yet assuming this is truth, I fully support the ban.

[!King_Amazon!]

It's what will happen, probably. Mjordan, Grav, and I left because of D3v. D3v is gone, I'm back. Mjordan will probably return. Grav is an unknown.

[HandOfHeaven]

D3V once said that he 'causes trouble to liven this place up'. He just went too far. I'm glad he's gone, because he always trolled and then played innocent when people called him out.

Glad to see you back, K_A.

[Thanatos]

I think I missed something here.. how exactly did D3V drive off three members? Grav left because he said posting on a forum is trivial and immature in his stage of life. How does that correlate with D3V? Sounds like a personal issue to me.

I understand why MJ left (he'll be back), but how did D3V drive off KA? Aren't you a Supreme Moderator here? How can a member cause you to stop posting?

And I REALLY don't agree with the permanent ban. Ban him for a month or two, but permanently over something like this?? Mantralord DDoSed the forums and tried to kill them for good for Christ's sake, and he's still allowed to post here. I'd say that's a way more harsher offense than what D3V did. And no matter what any of you says, D3V was at least 1/4th of the activity here. He made a ton of threads/posts and those in turn generated numerous responses, whether they be good or bad. Fact is, he has helped keep this place running the past couple of months. He's brought numerous ideas to the table on how to help Zelaron and make it more active.

This is the wrong move.

[sheerx]

This is the wrong move.

Seconded, for the same reasons.

[Wallow]

I agree, D3V did bring livelihood into this website. Even if he the mods don't let him come back, I'll post more, since I haven't been posting much lately and Zelaron needs more contributions.

[Thanatos]

I think I missed something here.. how exactly did D3V drive off three members? Grav left because he said posting on a forum is trivial and immature in his stage of life. How does that correlate with D3V? Sounds like a personal issue to me.

I understand why MJ left (he'll be back), but how did D3V drive off KA? Aren't you a Supreme Moderator here? How can a member cause you to stop posting?

And I REALLY don't agree with the permanent ban. Ban him for a month or two, but permanently over something like this?? Mantralord DDoSed the forums and tried to kill them for good for Christ's sake, and he's still allowed to post here. I'd say that's a way more harsher offense than what D3V did. And no matter what any of you says, D3V was at least 1/4th of the activity here. He made a ton of threads/posts and those in turn generated numerous responses, whether they be good or bad. Fact is, he has helped keep this place running the past couple of months. He's brought numerous ideas to the table on how to help Zelaron and make it more active.

This is the wrong move.

bumpage

[Chruser]

bumpage


Aside from D3V's rule-breaking: MJ will not be back due to D3V's actions (at least not for perhaps years to come, if ever), and GravitonSurve (who was arguably driven off by D3V) will most certainly never return. !K_A! returned, but others have threatened to leave because of D3V.

It is a fact that D3V has been a contributing member in several ways, but what makes you think he will not repeat his actions and destroy the rest of the community? He is the only contributing (i.e. human) member I have banned since LiveWire.

[Medieval Bob]

*claps*

[Thanatos]

All I have to say to MJ and Grav: you both are vaginas.

I still think a month, or two month ban would be quite better than permanently. Now that you've shown him you're serious about this, I gaurantee he would change. Zelaron is too big a part of his day for him to just disregard everything and continue to act like a jackass. But, I guess you've already made your decision so I can only disagree with it. Oh well. =\

[Asamin]

To me, it is kinda nice that he is gone. I had so many reps from him for no reason that were just stupid and useless. It seemed like he would just rep for the sake of it. It will be nice now that he is gone.

[!King_Amazon!]

All I have to say to MJ and Grav: you both are vaginas.

I still think a month, or two month ban would be quite better than permanently. Now that you've shown him you're serious about this, I gaurantee he would change. Zelaron is too big a part of his day for him to just disregard everything and continue to act like a jackass. But, I guess you've already made your decision so I can only disagree with it. Oh well. =\


Unfortunately, most likely he WOULDN'T change. That's the problem. We've banned and warned him numerous times. Chruser himself warned D3v, in hopes that D3v would take Chruser seriously and listen to him. D3v has shown that he isn't going to change.

I really wish he would, but he's not going to. Remember, I was the one who was fighting to bring back D3v in the first place, when he was permanently banned last time. I did this because I thought he had changed, and we needed some more activity. It is true that he's better now than he was, but he just crosses the line too much to the point that it has threatened the wellbeing of the forums. If he could stick to his good, productive member side, there wouldn't be a problem.

Point is, it's gotten to the point that it's clear that D3v won't change, and that's why it came to this. He's had numerous chances, and he doesn't change. D3v isn't going to stop being D3v, unfortunately. It's just his personality to press peoples buttons.

[Randuin]

May be if the people he drove off were actually funny we'd feel less strongly about this :V

[Willkillforfood]

Do you mean more strongly?

[Randuin]

Do you mean more strongly?

No, because banning D3V just made it less entertaining

[hotdog]

Yeah who am I gonna call out and rip on for being lame now? Kyeruu has been done to hell and I actually like Kagom and don't hate gay people so there's another no go.

On the topic though while I didn't like D3V I thought it was funny to argue with him just to see him worked up. Perhaps other people and I somewhat cintributed to his jackass-ish ways? Either way if it's definitive that members were leaving because of him I support the move. It sucks but sometimes it's for the best to simply tell someone to hit the road.

[Dar_Win]

He was the entire reason I stopped posting. Thanks for giving me a reason to come back :tup:

[Thanatos]

Liar.

[!King_Amazon!]

Liar.

He might be full of shit about D3v being the entire reason, but every time I tried to get him to come back he'd bitch about D3v and wouldn't come back.

[Thanatos]

I think I missed something, then.

Darwin, why did you have such a big problem with D3V?

[hotdog]

I think I missed something, then.

Darwin, why did you have such a big problem with D3V?

The general gayness of his, "I'm right your wrong now do what I say or I'll hurt you!" attitude.

I'm willing to place money on that.

[symnzXx]

justice prevails.

[Medieval Bob]

I think it's funny that just about everyone that I don't recognize here is all, "Why ban d3v? He'll be better. It's all gravy." While everyone that I do recognize is all, "Hooray!"

[hotdog]

I think it's funny that just about everyone that I don't recognize here is all, "Why ban d3v? He'll be better. It's all gravy." While everyone that I do recognize is all, "Hooray!"

Because you know the smarter or more mature people.

I'm willing to put money on that too. Of course wherever I see Chuck Norris I always put money, just for good luck.

[!King_Amazon!]

I think it's more because Bob knows the members who have been here for a long time, and we know D3v from way back. He's always been obnoxious.

[Vollstrecker]

I actually never had a real run-in with him, I believe. I've been gone for a while, did people start taking him seriously or something?

[Titusfied]

Apparently, yes. Which is my whole problem with this banning. When did people start taking this forum as a way of life and not as an entertaining part of life? Everyone is different - Some people come on here and post like they haven't had a lick of education their whole lives, other's post very thought invoking posts/threads, while others just peek in to see what's going on. Does that mean that any one of these members are better than others? Not in my opinion.

What makes a good member is someone that brings a lot of activity. Not every thread/post is going to bring positive comments that make everyone sit at their computer and have a good laugh, or really contemplate the meaning of life. Half of the activity on this damn forum is people squabbling and bickering over stupid shit - always has, and hopefully always will. For some reason is bring entertainment to people, like me. By banning someone permanently that brings that aspect to the table, as well as NUMEROUS very positive threads/posts is ridiculous.

Honestly, I don't post here enough to really see the effects is has, but like I said before, it was a pretty assinine decision.

[Thanatos]

Apparently, yes. Which is my whole problem with this banning. When did people start taking this forum as a way of life and not as an entertaining part of life? Everyone is different - Some people come on here and post like they haven't had a lick of education their whole lives, other's post very thought invoking posts/threads, while others just peek in to see what's going on. Does that mean that any one of these members are better than others? Not in my opinion.

What makes a good member is someone that brings a lot of activity. Not every thread/post is going to bring positive comments that make everyone sit at their computer and have a good laugh, or really contemplate the meaning of life. Half of the activity on this damn forum is people squabbling and bickering over stupid shit - always has, and hopefully always will. For some reason is bring entertainment to people, like me. By banning someone permanently that brings that aspect to the table, as well as NUMEROUS very positive threads/posts is ridiculous.

Honestly, I don't post here enough to really see the effects is has, but like I said before, it was a pretty assinine decision.

I'm in full agreement with you. I haven't posted as much on here since D3V left. Why? Because he brought a SHITLOAD of activity with him, whether it was good or bad, it was still activity and that is something that Zelaron desperately needs.

And to KA, MJ, and Grav that threatened to leave or did leave because of D3V: you guys are incredibly sensitive pussies. Grow up. You're going to leave a forum because you have a problem with a certain member? There's an ignore feature here, USE IT. The more and more I think about this, I feel KA had a major role in D3V's permanent banning. It's a well known fact that KA and D3V didn't get along, correct? They've been feuding for years. KA threatens to leave the forums altogether if something isn't done, so Chruser perm bans D3V. There's no way in hell KA would have left the forums for good. He's been here since '02, he's got over 14,000 posts, there's no way he would leave Zelaron. So he threatened to just to have D3V banned. That's my take on this, anyway. I could be incredibly off-base but it makes perfect sense to me.

Either way, this whole issue is completely retarded.

omgzzzzz im gong to leeve here becuz i h8 u!!

[!King_Amazon!]

I'm in full agreement with you. I haven't posted as much on here since D3V left. Why? Because he brought a SHITLOAD of activity with him, whether it was good or bad, it was still activity and that is something that Zelaron desperately needs.

And to KA, MJ, and Grav that threatened to leave or did leave because of D3V: you guys are incredibly sensitive pussies. Grow up. You're going to leave a forum because you have a problem with a certain member? There's an ignore feature here, USE IT. The more and more I think about this, I feel KA had a major role in D3V's permanent banning. It's a well known fact that KA and D3V didn't get along, correct? They've been feuding for years. KA threatens to leave the forums altogether if something isn't done, so Chruser perm bans D3V. There's no way in hell KA would have left the forums for good. He's been here since '02, he's got over 14,000 posts, there's no way he would leave Zelaron. So he threatened to just to have D3V banned. That's my take on this, anyway. I could be incredibly off-base but it makes perfect sense to me.

Either way, this whole issue is completely retarded.

omgzzzzz im gong to leeve here becuz i h8 u!!

I've been feuding with D3v for years? I guess that's why I'M the one who requested he be unbanned from his LAST permanent ban. I thought he had changed from his old self, and he had changed a lot. He most likely wouldn't have even been unbanned had it not been for me asking the staff to do so. Heck, when I got him unbanned, he didn't even want to come back. I think I remember even talking him into it.

Yeah, I've been calling for D3v to be permanently banned for months now. Obviously, if this were all because of me, D3v would have been gone long before now. I think Chruser and the rest of the staff were far too easy on him before, honestly. It took far too long for this to happen.

You can think what you want, but ultimately the decision was Chruser's. It wasn't me who convinced him, but numerous people. Hell, MJordan was taking the same position as you and Titus, and no more than a week later he had completely changed sides and was calling for D3v to be banned.

Just because I've been calling for it for months doesn't mean it was because of me. I'm just the first one who saw it. Everyone else gradually had their eyes opened, by D3v himself. Had he just left MJordan alone, most likely he never would have been banned, but instead he pissed off the one person (from a conversation that numerous people had with Chruser) who was saying "don't ban D3v."

[Dar_Win]

I think I missed something, then.

Darwin, why did you have such a big problem with D3V?
We used to have a huge problem with each other back in the day. It was mostly because he's just a douche bag who thinks he's right about everything. He feels that if you have a different opinion, you're uneducated.

I eventually stopped trying to patch things up with him on AIM after be blocked me twice. I dropped everything and tried to start fresh with him when he first came back but he kept it going. Now that time is over. Everyone who remembers who he used to be knows that he's just an asshole deep down inside.

[Colon]

The reasons for D3V being banned are all now false. There is no reason for the ban to continue.

[Thanatos]

The more and more I think about this, I feel KA had a major role in D3V's permanent banning. It's a well known fact that KA and D3V didn't get along, correct? They've been feuding for years. KA threatens to leave the forums altogether if something isn't done, so Chruser perm bans D3V. There's no way in hell KA would have left the forums for good. He's been here since '02, he's got over 14,000 posts, there's no way he would leave Zelaron. So he threatened to just to have D3V banned

Looks like I was right.

So what is the reason D3V is staying banned..? Anybody? From what I've gathered, Chruser doesn't care if D3V is banned or not, he'd be all for unbanning him.... BUT... KA is preventing this.

Why does KA have more authority than Chruser in this matter?

[WetWired]

I've never heard anything like this from Chruser. From what I've heard, Chruser is still opposed to his un-banning as of last week.

[!King_Amazon!]

Looks like I was right.

So what is the reason D3V is staying banned..? Anybody? From what I've gathered, Chruser doesn't care if D3V is banned or not, he'd be all for unbanning him.... BUT... KA is preventing this.

Why does KA have more authority than Chruser in this matter?

Or perhaps D3v is once again just trying to start shit. But sure, buy into what he says and start calling me a Nazi again or something.

D3v lives in his own little world. I don't know where he got the idea that Chruser "would be all for unbanning him," but that's not the case. If it were, he wouldn't be banned.

"[12:21] Colon: chruser told me the other day that the ban had no reason to still be in tact, but it was that K_A doesn't want me to come back which is why I am not unbanned..."

All that is is D3v trying to start something.

[!King_Amazon!]

Oh and:

"[12:33] Colon: same here ill try adn get back on and if im banned just go bump that d3v banned thread.. just say the ban has no reason behind its legitimacy any more"

Here's D3v demonstrating his manipulative skills, as well as his bad grammar. He thinks he can say a few bad things about me, claim a few falsities, and then rally you to his cause.

D3v is illogical and irrational. The things he's claiming make no sense at all. How in the hell would I be preventing D3v being unbanned if Chruser thought D3v should be unbanned? I have no doubt that Chruser values my opinion quite a bit, but not so much that he would place my opinion above his own. If, for some reason, Chruser DID value my opinion more than his own, that is not my fault, but that isn't the case anyway.

Either way, I could find numerous occasions where Chruser has expressed that he does not think D3v should be unbanned. I even asked Chruser if D3v was telling the truth about Chruser saying that he would unban him but I'm preventing it, however unlikely it was. Chruser did not say any such thing. This logically means that D3v is making shit up to try to make me (or the staff in general) look like a bad guy, so that people will bitch about me (or the staff in general) and attempt to get D3v unbanned, like he's some sort of martyr or something.

I've done nothing to deserve being blamed for anything. I've only stated my opinion on the matter, as have many others. I'm not the only one who wanted D3v banned, by any means.

[Wed-G]

It seems like you care WAY too much about this.

If you feel that Chruser doesn't want D3V back, and are confident in his authority, leave it at that.

I feel like this is getting redundant.

He's gone, he most likely won't be back so it really isn't that important is it?

[!King_Amazon!]

I'm just trying to clear my name. I don't want people pinning shit on me that needs not be pinned there. D3v is spreading lies, and people are apparently believing them. Since they regard me, I think I have every right to dispute them.

[quikspy67]

Bull shit i bet.

[WetWired]

It seems like you care WAY too much about this.
He cares because he's the one being accused, of course.

[Thanatos]

I'm just trying to clear my name. I don't want people pinning shit on me that needs not be pinned there. D3v is spreading lies, and people are apparently believing them. Since they regard me, I think I have every right to dispute them.

Okay, so you have nothing to do with it, right? So do you want D3V unbanned? And if you don't, why not? Is it because you guys bicker, because last time I checked, bickering isn't against the rules. The Flame Forum is there for a purpose; don't be childish and spread it in numerous threads. Direct it in a certain thread. Hell, we might as well even sticky a 'D3V vs. KA' thread.

All I'm saying is this ban is trivial since he didn't drive anybody away. MJ left for personal reasons and Grav left because posting on a forum is immature and he's somehow above that. You're the only person that was going to leave because of D3V. You guys just need to squash your harsh feelings for each other because you're both some of my favorite posters on this board. Learn to get along. You can't argue that D3V is a contributing member in one way or another. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks that; yes he can be an enormous ass at times but I still think he's valued here.

Ultimately this is the staff's decision and there's really nothing I can do about it, I just thought I'd bring this up since he came to the chatbox yesterday and expressed that he wants to come back. I guess this is really the last post I'll make on the subject so it's up to you guys. Maybe we should have a poll?

[!King_Amazon!]

Okay, so you have nothing to do with it, right? So do you want D3V unbanned? And if you don't, why not? Is it because you guys bicker, because last time I checked, bickering isn't against the rules. The Flame Forum is there for a purpose; don't be childish and spread it in numerous threads. Direct it in a certain thread. Hell, we might as well even sticky a 'D3V vs. KA' thread.

I have no more to do with it than any other staff member. No I do not want D3v unbanned. I feel that he is a threat to the stability of the community, and, while he's a great contributing member sometimes, other times he's a blatant troll set on starting shit with someone. I don't mind D3v when he's being a good member (meaning, not excessively flaming or trolling, not being a fairy princess.) D3v just doesn't know when to stop. People have left because of him, and people were on the verge of leaving because of him.

All I'm saying is this ban is trivial since he didn't drive anybody away. MJ left for personal reasons and Grav left because posting on a forum is immature and he's somehow above that. You're the only person that was going to leave because of D3V. You guys just need to squash your harsh feelings for each other because you're both some of my favorite posters on this board. Learn to get along. You can't argue that D3V is a contributing member in one way or another. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks that; yes he can be an enormous ass at times but I still think he's valued here.

I think I addressed most of this above, but there's a little bit to say here. I have, on more than one occasion, tried to settle things with D3v, even to the point of just saying "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone." D3v can't handle that. Even if you attempt to ignore him, he will take his trolling farther and farther in an attempt to piss you off.

I can find at least 5 times where I've said, either here on the forums or in conversation with other people, that I would much rather D3v straighten up than us have to ban him. Banning him was a last resort, because he was showing no signs of changing, and he had just ran MJordan off. Chruser himself gave D3v warnings that he completely disregarded.

For the most part, I don't want anyone to be banned, especially permanently. It's very counterproductive to trying to boost activity here on the forums.

Ultimately this is the staff's decision and there's really nothing I can do about it, I just thought I'd bring this up since he came to the chatbox yesterday and expressed that he wants to come back. I guess this is really the last post I'll make on the subject so it's up to you guys. Maybe we should have a poll?

We've been talking a lot about this lately in the staff forum. D3v wrote a letter for Chruser to post there, and so far the consensus seems to be either "leave him banned" or "unban him but restrict how many posts he can make per day" or some nonsense. I'm not the only person saying "leave him banned," and now that he's spreading lies in an attempt to get more people to support him, I don't see myself leaving that group anytime soon.

Either way, you and everyone else are free to give your opinions, just the same as me.

[Thanatos]

How exactly did D3V run MJ off? And if he really did, why hasn't MJ come back since D3V's been banned for a while now? My understanding was he won't be back due to personal reasons. That has nothing to do with D3V.

[WetWired]

MJ left because D3V was harrassing him about the name change and posting his old name in every thread he posted in. Sure, you could call it personal reasons, since the name change was to hide from his GF, but it was D3V that forced him to leave.

[!King_Amazon!]

How exactly did D3V run MJ off? And if he really did, why hasn't MJ come back since D3V's been banned for a while now? My understanding was he won't be back due to personal reasons. That has nothing to do with D3V.

Personal reasons caused by D3v's actions. From what I understand, D3v caused Mjordan to not be able to visit.

[Thanatos]

Umm, even though he changed his username, every single person still called him MJ. That's what we're accustomed to.

And okay, by your logic, MJ should be back right now since D3V has been gone for a while. Where is he?

[!King_Amazon!]

Umm, even though he changed his username, every single person still called him MJ. That's what we're accustomed to.

And okay, by your logic, MJ should be back right now since D3V has been gone for a while. Where is he?

Not everyone went out of their way to make sure whoever visited Zelaron knew Desmethones was MJ.

MJ got into some sort of IRL shit because of it, and now cannot visit, supposedly.

[Willkillforfood]

Not everyone went out of their way to make sure whoever visited Zelaron knew Desmethones was MJ.

MJ got into some sort of IRL shit because of it, and now cannot visit, supposedly.

MJ was actually debating started back again.

[Chruser]

Looks like my connection works again, for now.

I have previously stated that if the reasons behind D3V's ban will at some point go away, he will be unbanned. However, MJ/Demosthenes is still gone, Grav is still gone and D3V is still a troublemaker who distorts the truth:

"[12:21] Colon: chruser told me the other day that the ban had no reason to still be in tact, but it was that K_A doesn't want me to come back which is why I am not unbanned..."

There is still reason for D3V to be banned, as previously stated. I have not claimed otherwise.
The decision was ultimately mine. The past events and feuds taking place between K_A and D3V are irrelevant to my decision per se.

[Thanatos]

Well there we have it. Case closed.

[Wallow]

hehe, you posted two more times after your "last post" on this thread. I find that funny

[Medieval Bob]

All I'm saying is this ban is trivial since he didn't drive anybody away.

Most of the reason I left was because of D3V

[Thanatos]

hehe, you posted two more times after your "last post" on this thread. I find that funny

Quiet you!

[Hancock]

More people fighting with each other isn't always a bad thing, it sparks creativity, per se?

[D3V]

I love you guys.

[Skurai]

Seems you were pretty bad, in your day, huh?

[!King_Amazon!]

More like he has been pretty bad numerous times in his day. Stay long enough and you'll likely see it again. Although admittedly I follow similar troll-cycles.

[-Spector-]

He was much better at it than you though, Skurai. Your trolling attempts just make people feel like shooting themselves in the face, D3V's on the other hand, pissed people off.. bad.

[Kazilla]

wtf? d3v doesn't troll!

[Skurai]

Who's trollin', I'm not trollin'!?

[jamer123]

ive gotten pretty bad at times myself .... not to meantion and vs. but some people might have a bit a troll every once in a while

[Skurai]

Does that mean we should all get banned?

[Kazilla]

We are, Chruser couldn't or wouldn't ban us all, so instead he banned himself.

[Skurai]

I disagree. I have once witness a website owner ban the world, and it was epic. The world should be banned, it would be epic.

[D3V]

I disagree. I have once witness a website owner ban the world, and it was epic. The world should be banned, it would be epic.

What Spector meant to say, is that you're a goddamn moron.

[-Spector-]

What Spector meant to say, is that you're a goddamn moron.


This is correct.

[Skurai]

Now, how does that exactly translate to the other? I mean, I guess I can see it, but really? Really, Spector?

[-Spector-]

Really.

[Skurai]

I'm afraid I'm going to need proof, before I can believe you.

[Titusfied]

Skurai, has the, worst, punctuation usage, I've, ever read. Way, too many, commas,.

W,h,a,t,!!,!,,!!!!oneonecomma

[Skurai]

Now, that's just going overboard.

[!King_Amazon!]

So why did we unban d3v anyway? I forgot.

[Skurai]

My guess is out of mercy. Lenny is a merciful god.

[Lenny]

Hey, don't look at me! I don't think I had anything to do with overturning his ban.

[Grav]

It's because nobody cares anymore

[Skurai]

As Zelaron lost it's faith in the gods...
The power of the gods was lost as well...

[jamer123]

i think its because chruser got bored and wanted him back

[Skurai]

Okay, Mr. Nietzsche.

[D3V]

It's because nobody cares anymore


This. And more-so than not I've actually been quite a good contributing member on here. Not as much recently due to lack of activity but throughout Zel's history? Sure. Maybe more to come? We need to set up a think-tank on here and resurrect this place.

[!King_Amazon!]

more-so than not I've actually been quite a good contributing member on here

I literally LOL'd

[Skurai]

I think I've contributed more than D3V.
And usually all I give is a satire right-wing opinion.

[Kazilla]

This. And more-so than not I've actually been quite a good contributing member on here. Not as much recently due to lack of activity but throughout Zel's history? Sure. Maybe more to come? We need to set up a think-tank on here and resurrect this place.
Lies and Slander!

[Skurai]

Zelaron isn't dead. Zelaron has become one with the universe. Zelaron will return on the Day of Judgement.

[D3V]

I literally LOL'd

coming from the one person who has literally driven away the entire member base.

[Grav]

I say restrict K_A and D3v to their own thread that only they can see or reply to

[!King_Amazon!]

coming from the one person who has literally driven away the entire member base.
now that is a good troll

[-Spector-]

i say restrict k_a and d3v to their own thread that only they can see or reply to

LOl .

[Skurai]

But... D3V and K_A are my only friends. :cry:

[Grav]

I think you have Penguin to thank for that smiley. But it's been so long I may be wrong.

[KagomJack]

Can I get my $50 for that blowjob I promised D3V and K_A? I've been waiting for a while now.

[Grav]

You're outta luck kid

[D3V]

zzzzzzzzzzzing.

[Skurai]

I can't put my finger on it... but something seems gay about this thread.

[-Spector-]

It's you.

[Skurai]

No u.

[D3V]

It's you.

this. how come the president pardons turkeys? sillly tradition, whie there's turkey genocide going on around the country.

[Skurai]

To get to the other side!