Week 12 Picks - NOW - First game Thursday!

[Titusfied]

Week 12 - Pick 'Em

Green Bay at Detroit - GB
NY Jets at Dallas - Cowgirls
Indianapolis at Atlanta - Colts
Seattle at St. Louis - Seattle
Minnesota at NY Giants - Giants
Buffalo at Jacksonville - Bills
New Orleans at Carolina - Saints
Washington at Tampa Bay - Bus
Houston at Cleveland - Browns
Tennessee at Cincinnati - Titans
Oakland at Kansas City - Chefs
San Francisco at Arizona - Cards
Baltimore at San Diego - Bolts
Denver at Chicago - Broncos
Philadelphia at New England - Patriots (not even I'm that dumb)
Miami at Pittsburgh - Stillers

[D3V]

Green Bay at Detroit - Damn.. GreenBay
NY Jets at Dallas - Cowboys
Indianapolis at Atlanta - Wow, Colts
Seattle at St. Louis - Seahawks
Minnesota at NY Giants - Giants
Buffalo at Jacksonville - Jacksonville, definately
New Orleans at Carolina - Carolina upsets.
Washington at Tampa Bay - Redskins
Houston at Cleveland - Cleveland..
Tennessee at Cincinnati - Cincinatti
Oakland at Kansas City - KC
San Francisco at Arizona - Arizona..
Baltimore at San Diego - Baltimore
Denver at Chicago - Broncos
Philadelphia at New England - Patriots
Miami at Pittsburgh - Go MIAMI! But going with Steelers

[Bon Clay]

Green Bay.
Dallas.
Indianapolis.
Seattle.
New York.
Jacksonville.
New Orleans.
Washington.
Cleveland.
Tennessee.
Kansas City.
Arizona.
San Diego.
Denver.
New England.
Pittsburg.

[Thanatos]

For a second I was like, when the hell did I make this post? Good going, Titus. :)

Green Bay at Detroit - Detroit with the upset
NY Jets at Dallas - Dallas
Indianapolis at Atlanta - Colts
Seattle at St. Louis - St. Louis on a roll
Minnesota at NY Giants - Giants
Buffalo at Jacksonville - Jax
New Orleans at Carolina - New Orleans
Washington at Tampa Bay - Washington
Houston at Cleveland - Browns
Tennessee at Cincinnati - Titans
Oakland at Kansas City - Chiefs
San Francisco at Arizona - AZ
Baltimore at San Diego - San Diego
Denver at Chicago - Broncos
Philadelphia at New England - Brian Westbrook is gonna tear up NE, but the Gaytriots will still win. Fucking assholes.
Miami at Pittsburgh - Pittsburgh

[HandOfHeaven]

Green Bay at Detroit - Green Bay
NY Jets at Dallas - Dallas
Indianapolis at Atlanta - Indianapolis
Seattle at St. Louis - St. Louis
Minnesota at NY Giants - Minnesota
Buffalo at Jacksonville - Jacksonville
New Orleans at Carolina - New Orleans
Washington at Tampa Bay - Tampon Bay
Houston at Cleveland - Houston
Tennessee at Cincinnati - Tennessee
Oakland at Kansas City - KC
San Francisco at Arizona - AZ
Baltimore at San Diego - San Diego
Denver at Chicago - Denver
Philadelphia at New England - New England
Miami at Pittsburgh - Pittsburgh


Fun fact. New England's soccer team has been to 4 of 12 MLS Cups and have lost each time. They have lost in the MLS Cup the past two years to Houston each time, with the last one having occurred this past Sunday.

[osmoses-jones]

Green Bay at Detroit - packers
NY Jets at Dallas - cowboys
Indianapolis at Atlanta - colts
Seattle at St. Louis - seahawk
Minnesota at NY Giants - giants
Buffalo at Jacksonville - jaguar
New Orleans at Carolina - New Orleans
Washington at Tampa Bay - redskin
Houston at Cleveland - browns
Tennessee at Cincinnati - Titans
Oakland at Kansas City - KC
San Francisco at Arizona - AZ
Baltimore at San Diego - San Diego
Denver at Chicago - chicago
Philadelphia at New England - New England
Miami at Pittsburgh - steeler

I have a question which teams have a strong defence beside patriot. Because it seems if patriot plays against strong defence they don't do shit.

[Thanatos]

The Colts have a pretty good defense and the Patriots only beat us 24-20 because we gave it away at the end.

The Titans and Jaguars also have pretty good defenses.

[D3V]

Well, the Jaguars have suffered recently statistically, but overall the AFC south teams have the greatest defenses in the entire league if you look by divisions.

[Thanatos]

Very true. AFC South is fuckin stacked this year. I'm real glad the Colts are 3-0 within the division. Phew!

[D3V]

You had better watch it, us and Tennessee could pull right up into the tie win-wise, Jacksonville is already the #1 seed for the AFC Wild card spot, if we pull ahead in wins and beat you guys at home we'll go ahead and take that number one spot, better not plan on losing any time soon.

[Thanatos]

Problem is, there's no way in hell you'll beat us at home. The only team to do that in the past 15 games has been the Patriots.

[Grav]

Are the Patriots the football version of the Yankees?

[Bon Clay]

Currently I would say they are better than any incantation of past Yankees teams.

I have never seen a team in any professional sport that was as dominant as these Patriots are. The 1996 Chicago Bulls would be about the closest thing I can think of.

[Thanatos]

I hope you did not just compare the Patriots to the Chicago Bulls in terms of dominance.

Not even close.

[Bon Clay]

The fact that they are undefeated and simply blowing the shit out of everyone. Along with the fact that there is pretty much zero chance of them losing a game this season(Other than Tom Brady getting injured) says I just did.

That and they have the most efficient offense in the history of the NFL and are going to break all sorts of records by the end of the year.

[Thanatos]

They aren't completely dominating everybody. Colts gave them a tough time. They only won 24-20 and were down most of the game. I can't wait for the expected rematch in the playoffs where those two teams wil more than likely meet.

Anyway, there was no sports team more dominant than the 90's Bulls. They went 72-10 one year. How freaking unbelievable is that? 6 NBA championships later and nobody could even begin to recreate their sheer brilliance.

I'll admit these Pats are good, yes, and I will give them credit they are one of the best teams the NFL has seen. We'll see what they do in the playoffs, though.

[Dar_Win]

Green Bay at Detroit - Packers
NY Jets at Dallas - The Cows
Indianapolis at Atlanta - Colts
Seattle at St. Louis - Seattle
Minnesota at NY Giants - Vikings
Buffalo at Jacksonville - Bills
New Orleans at Carolina - Saints
Washington at Tampa Bay - Bucs
Houston at Cleveland - Browns
Tennessee at Cincinnati - Titans
Oakland at Kansas City - Chiefs
San Francisco at Arizona - Cardinals
Baltimore at San Diego - Chargers
Denver at Chicago - Broncos
Philadelphia at New England - Patriots (no mcnabb :) we actually have a chance of scoring without him. A.J. FTW)
Miami at Pittsburgh - Miami :haha:

[Thanatos]

You're about 3 days too late, niqqa

[Titusfied]

Seriously, and if I do say so myself, the Eagles gave the Patriots more of a run for their money than any team in the league, including the Colts.

[D3V]

Seriously, and if I do say so myself, the Eagles gave the Patriots more of a run for their money than any team in the league, including the Colts.

Man FriedTits I watched that game last night, was definately a great game... Hopefully NFL replay later on in the week?.. I honestly thought after the Eagles went up that it was over they'd be able to keep their lead and pull out the 'W', but of course, AJ Feeley prooved to us all why he's a backup.

[Thanatos]

Eagles and the Colts showed how to beat the Patriots although the assholes keep pulling out W's. I fuckin hate it...

Keep Brady off of the field and when he's on the field: get in his face and make him frantic.

[D3V]

Eagles and the Colts showed how to beat the Patriots although the assholes keep pulling out W's. I fuckin hate it...

Keep Brady off of the field and when he's on the field: get in his face and make him frantic.

That same forumula works against the Colts, .. be careful the train is a'comin' again Thanatos..expect all sorts of stunts to throw off 'ole forrest gump

[Thanatos]

Didn't you say that last time and we still whooped you?

[D3V]

Didn't you say that last time and we still whooped you?

I don't recall anything other than that 44-17 game.

[Thanatos]

Oh, that's because you're delusional.

:)

[D3V]

Oh, that's because you're delusional.

:)

No I just have "selective memory" :rolleyes:

But it will indeed be a great matchup, hopefully better than that 0-3 win Pittsburg had last night, my god that game was awful and awesome at the same time, I was definately pulilng for Miami though, as Ricky Williams made his 20th debut.

[Thanatos]

I went to bed after the 3rd quarter and the score was still 0-0. Lame.

Miami should have kicked a field goal when they had it on 4th and 11. Instead their retard QB got sacked and fumbled. Good job.

[Vault Dweller]

Worst Monday Night game, EVER!

I'm still glad we won, though. Especially after last week.

Definitely enjoyed the Eagles/Pats game more, though.

[Thanatos]

If you guys lost to the 1-8 Jets and the 0-10 Dolphins two weeks in a row, I would have laughed my ass off. And then you gotta play NE in a couple of weeks! Hurray!

[Titusfied]

Yes, Indy and Philly definitely showed the NFL that the Patriots are indeed human and have clear and evident weaknesses. A lot of fans in Philly are actually complacent with the L because of the great game it was. I think that's fucking ridiculous! Sure, you can take positives out of the game, but to say you are happy with a loss is fraudulous.

[D3V]

The Eagles showed us some things. They showed us that the quarterback must go down. That’s the main thing. You aren’t going to beat top quarterbacks if you can’t rush them. Don’t even play the game if you can’t put pressure on a top quarterback. He’ll just sit back there and pick you apart. Andy Reid showed us the Patriots defense is soft in the middle of the field.

..Future Patriots opponents will definitely take note of that. By and large, however, I don’t think the Eagles provided a blueprint. Hey, they lost. I think they caught the Patriots on a bad night and I think Bill Belichick got a little full of himself. One true rushing attempt in the whole first half? That’s not going to work in the postseason. Don’t put too much stock in that game. All it proved is that even the Patriots are capable of not being ready to play. That’s what surprised me. I thought they were above that.

[Bon Clay]

The Eagles also showed us that getting bullshit calls like that Offensive PI on Randy Moss's touchdown is a good way to stay in the game against the Patriots.

Clear cut method to beating the Patriots = Pay off the Refs.

[Thanatos]

It's about fucking time Randy Moss got called for an offensive PI. It's blatantly obvious most times.

[Bon Clay]

If out jumping everyone on the planet and stealing the ball from them is PI then you are right he should get flagged for that shit like 10x a game.

[Thanatos]

I clearly recall during the Pats/Redskins game he pushed off of his man about 4 seconds before the ball reached him, resulting in a catch and a TD. His defender fell down because of the shove Randy Moss gave him. I don't know how in the world that wasn't called, but the refs are now aware Randy Moss likes to push off.

[D3V]

I wouldn't worry about it too much, the Jaguars will definately expose that in the AFC title game, don't even fret.

[Thanatos]

Keep dreaming, buddy.

[Titusfied]

Well you two can finally stop all the smack talk after this week, because one of your teams is going down. I'm picking the Colts, because they are the better team, but they haven't been playing that well lately and the Jags have been, so it could be close.

Bon Clay, you give Moss too much credit. If you have a smart defense and a secondary that isn't a bunch of pussies, look at what happens. Between Lito Sheppard covering him and Dawkins giving support, he was obsolete in the game. I agree that the PI call was pretty bad, but that isn't why we made it a good game. Our backup QB came in a exposed a weak pass defense, that's for sure. Greg Lewis looked like Randy Moss that night, and he plays more Special Teams for us than takes offensive snaps.

Bellichick didn't come into the game unprepared, the Eagles just came in more prepared.

[Thanatos]

He was stating similar things when the Colts met the Jags earlier in the season. S'okay though, pretty sure the Colts dominate the AFC South year after year, even if we let a couple of games get by us.

Interesting note: The Colts, according to the Indy Star, have led or shared the lead in the AFC South for 90 of the 97 weeks since the division was formed in 2002.


Damn.

[D3V]

He was stating similar things when the Colts met the Jags earlier in the season. S'okay though, pretty sure the Colts dominate the AFC South year after year, even if we let a couple of games get by us.

Interesting note: The Colts, according to the Indy Star, have led or shared the lead in the AFC South for 90 of the 97 weeks since the division was formed in 2002.


Damn.

Okay, so their best 5 years in history they've got a good stat. You're very lucky the '98 and '99 Jaguars weren't in the same division, because I guarntee it would've been a different story, not only did we lead the AFC Central for 2 consecutive years, but did it in dominaiting fashion. Just keep remembering those great stats, because they are shortly going to become a thing of the past.

[Thanatos]

woulda coulda shoulda.. if this, if that..

The overall series between the two teams is in favor of the Colts, 10-3. Yeah, that's some pretty serious Jaguars domination.

[D3V]

woulda coulda shoulda.. if this, if that..

The overall series between the two teams is in favor of the Colts, 10-3. Yeah, that's some pretty serious Jaguars domination.

For being a team that was only 3-4 years old at the time, yeah that's dominant IMO.

[Thanatos]

How is a 3-10 record dominant???

[D3V]

How is a 3-10 record dominant???

Please quote me where I said we dominated Indy in overall record and i'll give you a cookie. I'm saying we started off very strong as a franchise and had a 2 year streak where we won out our division which was much larger than the divisions we have now.. :rolleyes:

[Titusfied]

You didn't quote it, but you implied it. Quite clearly too.

Thanatos made a joke that the Colts leading the series 10-3 was dominating for the Jags, and you said, "For being a team that was only 3-4 years old at the time, yeah that's dominant IMO."

So, basically you just wrote, "For being a team that was only 3-4 years old at the time, 3-10 against the Colts is dominant IMO."

POWN? Thanatos FTW.

Either way, the NFL goes in cycles. Thanatos, you are going to be in for a VERY rude awakening once the Colts dominating era is over. You may think that will never happen, but it will. You're too young to really appreciate the times when the Colts didn't kick ass, which will make this cycle even harder to swallow. Trust me, I know. I followed the Eagles in the early 90's when we FUCKING BLEW, but I wasn't a die hard like I am now. I basically have only known glory as far as the Eagles are concerned, so since we went to the SB 3 years ago, the years have been tough, and this year is no different. I'm looking forward to a change though, because until that happens, we are going to continue on a bottom part of the wave.

[Thanatos]

Haha, that's basically what I was thinking, you just put it more eloquently. Good stuff.

No, I perfectly understand the Colts dominance is going to come to an end. Maybe in the next couple of years, even. And, I followed the Colts when they completely sucked ass back in the late 90's. Seriously, we were horrible. Manning's rookie year? Laughable. So I'm not just accustomed to seeing the Colts win every game, although I do expect it now. I just thought that this was an interesting stat: The Colts, according to the Indy Star, have led or shared the lead in the AFC South for 90 of the 97 weeks since the division was formed in 2002. =)

I'm a Colts fan through and through. No bandwagonning here.

[D3V]

That's good to hear, even with that very questionable "refferring" in yesterday's game, we still managed to give you guys a run for your money...

[Thanatos]

The refs were fucking up on both sides of the field. Not just in favor of the Colts. Good game, though.

We pretty much clinched the division with that win! Hell yeah. See ya next year Jags.

[D3V]

More like see you in the Playoffs.... Both teams we're banged up, and the REFs seriosuly did call a bunch of crock-shit calls. I had a friend going to the game said he could hear whistles going off in the crowd, I guess you guys allow people to bring them into the stadium, the penalties against the Jaguars we're very uncharacteristic.. but none-the-less, very great game, should've been Prime-time IMO, Sunday night game. But anyways, we may get to see it again on NFL Replay tonight, actually...

Crowd noise FTL.

[Thanatos]

I seriously doubt a bunch of fans brought whistles in. If that was the case, Security would have removed them.

How many false starts did you guys have that game? 5? 6? You should expect to hear some loud ass fans in that stadium. Should be used to it by now.

[D3V]

Uh, I think 3-4 false starts..

I mean, all-in-all the Jaguars really did dominate a good portion of the game, David Garrard played EXCELLENT.. he completed something like 85% of his passes, and had 2 TD.. 119 passer rating. Oh well... Depending on our upcoming games, we may see you guys in the future..

[HandOfHeaven]

Pats are going to dominate tonite.


Jags 3-10 is not dominating at all. You suck.

[Thanatos]

Make that 3-11 now hahahaha.

Sorry. Had to. :)

[D3V]

That past argument wasn't even legitmate, we we're arguing about two different things. I never implied the Jaguars we're dominant in the over-all record over the Colts, just that one game, Jesus. Going off statistics it's simple to see, the Jaguars are going through a transition, it's been a long time since we've been a good time, and most of that 3-10 was during our rebuilding years where we got rid of an entire staff, new head coach, etc. Now that we've got our feet on the ground again we're going back on the upward turn.

[Thanatos]

Going back on the upward turn by losing both games to the Colts this year? Hehe. :)

[D3V]

Going back on the upward turn by losing both games to the Colts this year? Hehe. :)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4308/buckostfu5eb.jpg

Uguhah, you're not getting what i'm saying, let me brake it down a bit for you.

The Jaguars back in '98 and '99 we're completely dominant throughout their season, and no this has nothing to do with the colts. Their decline started in '00 and got to a low point during '04. The upward swing was the Del Rio Era til present, our defense had a significant turnaround as well as the offense, and now recently with the removal of Leftwich and addition of Mojo things are in the "upward" motion. Sorry it was too complicated for you before.

None-the-less, colts FTL, play in a neutral stadium with referrees that aren't receiving payments and we've got a ballgame.

[Thanatos]

First of all, I was just giving you a hard time. Notice the smiley?

Secondly, quit living in the past. This is '07 - '08 not '98 - '99. Get over it.

Lastly, "Play in a neutral stadium"... ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Who fucking does that besides the Superbowl? We already beat you guys in a HOSTILE stadium in Jacksonville. I understand you don't like the Colts, but your excuses now are getting ridiculous.

[D3V]

First of all, I was just giving you a hard time. Notice the smiley?

Secondly, quit living in the past. This is '07 - '08 not '98 - '99. Get over it.

Lastly, "Play in a neutral stadium"... ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Who fucking does that besides the Superbowl? We already beat you guys in a HOSTILE stadium in Jacksonville. I understand you don't like the Colts, but your excuses now are getting ridiculous.

Hostile Jacksonville stadium? We somehow lost rights to about 40% of our tickets to Colts fan due to the NFL agreement so it was basically a neutral stadium.

Hah! And i'm just giving you a hard time too, notice the big black guy?

[Titusfied]

You are racist!