Best Next-generation Console

[Helltooimp]

What does everyone think the best next-gen console is?

The Revolution, XBox 360, PS3

I personally prefer Xbox over the revolution and PS3

The Revolution just sucks....

PS3 is too expensive.... way the fuck too expensive.....

What does every1 think???

[Lenny]

It's the Nintendo Wii, btw. Revolution was it's project codename until about E3 '06, I think.

If you're going to say the Wii sucks, and the PS3 is too expensive, then back it up. Why does the Wii suck? Why is thew PS3 too expensive? Just the fact that you get everything in one console at one price rather than mini bits you buy and jack the price up, or what?

So come on, if you want an argument but some oomph into your opening statement.

[Helltooimp]

well, for one, nintendo Wii, I don't like the controller setup, the PS3 does include everything, unlike the Xbox 360, but most of the games are already released on the 360!

[Lenny]

PS3 Launch titles:

Genji: Days of the Blade
NBA 07
Resistance: Fall of Man
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
Call of Duty 3
EA Sports Fight Night Round 3
The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion
F.E.A.R.
Full Auto 2 Battlelines
Madden NFL 07
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
NBA 2K7
NHL 2K7
Untold Legends Dark Kingdom
Ridge Racer 7
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Sonic the Hedgehog
Need for Speed Carbon
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas

21 games. 14 the 360 has, or is getting at the same time as the PS3. 7 that are exclusives.

The PS3 then has a little stack of exclusive games, somewhere in the region of 60, including gems such as MGS4, Lair, GT HD, Warhawk, and not forgetting the 3 FFXIII games from Squenix.

So, no, most of the games aren't already released on the 360. Perhaps 8 or 9 are, with a handful more coming out at the same time. We then see, over the couple of years after the PS3 launch, more and more titles coming out that are exclusive to the PS3.

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I like the idea of the Wii controller, but think that this might soon blow it out of the water: http://uk.gear.ign.com/articles/740/740679p1.html

[Great-Thanatos]

Need for Speed Carbon.

[!King_Amazon!]

Of course the Xbox 360 is the best even if you have to buy 4 of them to get a working one.

Fanboy.

[Sovereign]

I'm leaning towards the PS3 atm, but only because of it's capabilities to at least play blu ray disks.

I'm probably not going to get either, as I've moved on to pc gaming.

[Helltooimp]

Yeah with people making emulator's for every damn console out there, the pc rules over all, but purely discussing gaming consoles microsoft has done a decent job with the 360. There are some tweaks here and there that need to be applied to the 360, but overall it's not a bad console.

[Original Sin]

Umm, PC's cant handle emulating an Xbox360 or PS3 at all. To emulate, you need 3-4x the power of what you are emulating. This is especially since the games are programmed for the hardware of the console, when you emulate, it is software based, and in order to run the software that emulates the game engine, it takes a lot more power.

Consoles own.

[JRwakebord]

X360 for the sole fact that it will have Halo3.

Call me a fanboy, I don't care.

[Helltooimp]

well who knows, with the quad sli setups coming into play, I would think that, wow my space bar really sucks..... well back to this topic, so with AMD coming out with a line up of socket 940 processors who knows what can be emulated in the near future....

[Lenny]

And Intel's Quad Core processors in 2008. Those should be fun. And damn expensive.

[Helltooimp]

Yep, fun shit, intel and AMD both kick some ass in processors, now if they would just give them to me for free.... :D

[pr0xy]

X360 for the sole fact that it will have Halo3.

Call me a fanboy, I don't care.

Fanboy.

To the guy saying ps3 is too expensive:

Sure PS3 is extremely expensive, but then it always was a system based for adults, not ment for kids to buy it IMO. They have always been easy to break if you drop them or whatever, where the xbox and wii are pretty darn sturdy.

But think about this... Sony is losing money for selling for that price... Hopefully that tells you something about how powerful it will be. If not then you are a fanboy tard.

[Acer]

It all depends on pref, and life style... ill explain

Depends on what type of games you like, generally the Xbox has games I like more than the PS3, now the Wii will always have my fun loving games.

Life style, well I have my PC and not much time to sit down on a console anyways so the only reason I'd want one is to take over to a friends house and have some drunken fun, and usually with girls not being very gaming... the Wii will provide those easy fun games like Mario Party, Strikers, SSB etc

so i'd go with Wii, then 360, then PS3. this has nothing to do with price, or how badass the system it is.

[MightyJoe]

360, also looses money for each one that is sold. I'd still go with the 360, since it has halo, and I already love my x box.

[pr0xy]

360, also looses money for each one that is sold. I'd still go with the 360, since it has halo, and I already love my x box.

That wasn't the point. Well I guess that helps the point... The PS3 (like all consoles) cost alot of money to develop and put together. So if you are spending 700 and they are still losing money on it, then you know the performance of the console has got to be pretty high end... (Justification on price)

Bleh at Halo... Its the same game over and over.

New to Halo 3: 1 new weapon, 20 new online maps! All for just $50 and the cost of an xbox 360!

For me... I prefer longer games that are more in depth and the Playstation has always had the best RPGs (not including SNES) so yeah I'll be goin with the PS3 when I even decide to get it... Which most likely wont be for 6months or so after release, or longer.

[!King_Amazon!]

You tell a die hard halo 1 fan that halo 2 is the same game and he'll kick your ass. You've obviously not played one or the other, they're pretty damn different.

[pr0xy]

I have... Sure they introduced Boosting for Cov vehicles, and dual wielding, changed the power of most weapons, and allowed vehicles to blow up, and be locked onto. But... What are they going to do for halo 3? Tri-Wielding? The way I see the game theres nothing they couldnt change without say a patch that you have to pay for... All Halo 3 will be in my mind is updated graphics considering the system its on. That and maybe another weapon.

But I'd rather not wait untill 2010 to play it. (Yes I know they pushed it up to be released in 2007 but seriously... Do you honestly believe that?)

Just not worth it in my mind to pay over 500 bucks for a system where the only game I'd most likely play would be Oblivion =/ I'd rather just save an extra 200 for a system I know I would play.

[Lenny]

Microsoft lose money from the 360?

The PS3 hasn't been released yet and already Sony have predicted more than a $1.7 billion loss! They're having to make it up by taking profits from all the other divisions.

If the PS3 goes down in flames, Sony are goners.

[!King_Amazon!]

I have... Sure they introduced Boosting for Cov vehicles, and dual wielding, changed the power of most weapons, and allowed vehicles to blow up, and be locked onto. But... What are they going to do for halo 3? Tri-Wielding? The way I see the game theres nothing they couldnt change without say a patch that you have to pay for... All Halo 3 will be in my mind is updated graphics considering the system its on. That and maybe another weapon.

But I'd rather not wait untill 2010 to play it. (Yes I know they pushed it up to be released in 2007 but seriously... Do you honestly believe that?)

Just not worth it in my mind to pay over 500 bucks for a system where the only game I'd most likely play would be Oblivion =/ I'd rather just save an extra 200 for a system I know I would play.
You're forgetting one thing. Halo 3 also has STORY. I think a lot of people are forgetting about that.

[HandOfHeaven]

Personally I'd go with the Wii.

[pr0xy]

You're forgetting one thing. Halo 3 also has STORY. I think a lot of people are forgetting about that.

/yawn

[Lenny]

If I could, I'd get a Wii just to play with the controller. All the videos of people using the controller look like fun.

[Titusfied]

Well, I just got a 360. I don't know much about the other consoles, but I just received my 360 as a gift, so I can't complain! :)

[Lenny]

I have to say that Gears of War looks good. The graphics and environments for one look amazing!

Though, from he reviews I've read, the gameplay is rotten, the story and dialogue are stale, and the multiplayer is 4 v 4 on miniscule maps.

Saying that, it ain't half gory, and the "take cover" tactic is pretty interesting.

[pr0xy]

I love gears of war... I just like third person shooters though. Friend has it so I havnt been on live.. Just 2v2 split screen.

[Lenny]

Do you like it JUST because you like TPS (sounds like some kind of bleach...) or is it elements of the game you like?

I've got a friend who ordered it last night. Chances are I'll be able to go over to his and play it sometime, just to see what it's like.

Luckily he lives about a minute away from school - so should we both have a free at the same time, or at lunch, I might be able to go down to his house and play for an hour.

[KagomJack]

I would love to get a Wii and a PS3. But I have to wait until I have enough money and until any and all known bugs/glitches are fixed.

[Sovereign]

Personally I'd go with the Wii.

Ditto. Cheap, decent games, cheap.

I read an article on g4 about amazon.com possibly putting up 100 dollar xbox 360's. Don't know if its true or not, nor do I care to check, but if it is I'd buy one.

[timmay1113]

well, for one, nintendo Wii, I don't like the controller setup, the PS3 does include everything, unlike the Xbox 360, but most of the games are already released on the 360!

Dont be a baby about the wii controller set up just because its something different. Yeah it might take some getting use to but it has the potential to be extremely fun. A very weak reason behind disliking the Wii. It looks like a very good buy for the amount of money you have to spend. Playstation 3 IS expensive but if you actually knew what kind of hardware they put into that bad boy you would see the reasoning behind that price.

[Great-Thanatos]

I use to be a sony lover, had a ps1 since I can't remember (doubt it was at launch tho) and ps2 since it launched. Now I own 360 and love it. Like I said I sold my pos ps3 cause it sucks... the 360 has WAY more features than ps3.
The Wii is friggen AMAZING I want one so bad. Everyone that I've talked to gives it shit (the controller sucks)... The people that say this are lazy I think. Moving around and shit with the Wii will help the kids that are going to start console gaming so that they don't turn out to be fattys like 90% of zel =\

[Lenny]

The 360 only has "WAY more features" than the PS3 because the 360s been out for over a year.

Go back to the 360 launch, and you wouldn't have seen half of the features it has now, then.

Give it a year or so, and Sony will have released a few hundred firmware updates and fixed all the problems with the software, as well as added in all the features people take for granted with the 360.

[timmay1113]

The people who whine about the wii controller probably haven't played it used it. They are just judging a book by its cover.

[Great-Thanatos]

The 360 only has "WAY more features" than the PS3 because the 360s been out for over a year.

Go back to the 360 launch, and you wouldn't have seen half of the features it has now, then.

Give it a year or so, and Sony will have released a few hundred firmware updates and fixed all the problems with the software, as well as added in all the features people take for granted with the 360.
But sony has had more time to make the ps3 better than the 360

[Lenny]

More time to work on Hardware.

Sony are primarily a hardware company. Microsoft are software.

Three days after the 360 launch people were baying for MS' blood because of hardware problems - not a single software problem in sight.

We're now about two weeks after the PS3 launch. The only problems Sony have had are software problems - mostly to do with compatibility issues with about 200 games (sound won't play), and downscaling issues on old HDTVs that don't support 720p. I know that a patch is already in the works to solve both of these problems.

[Slyvr]

If i had enuf money, I'd buy a ps3. XBox always has stupid rip offs of pc games (Counter Strike) and Halo as well as a bunch of dumb sportsy games. My friend bought a Wii and brought it over during a lan party. It was alright. I'd love to play the new zelda game, twilight princess, but I dunno if it's gunna be any good with the weird remote. My lil bro might be gettin a Wii so I'll just play with his ^.^
I never asked for any of the consoles for christmas or anything. I prefer pc games myself. Although, I hate the constant upgrades you have to make to ur pc to keep up with the good games >.<

[Lenny]

I've just been nattering with someone about XBL, and he's pissed off about the Demos being only available to those with paid accounts.

And he's pissed off with MS milking customers for every penny they've got.

And so on and so forth.

And I was just reading a quaint little article about Nintendo being sued over the Wiimote by a Californian company who had patented a shockingly similar idea over a year ago.

[Great-Thanatos]

I've just been nattering with someone about XBL, and he's pissed off about the Demos being only available to those with paid accounts.

And he's pissed off with MS milking customers for every penny they've got.

And so on and so forth.

And I was just reading a quaint little article about Nintendo being sued over the Wiimote by a Californian company who had patented a shockingly similar idea over a year ago.
The reason XBL Gold is $50/year is because its hardly ever laggy, for me atleast. And if you want to play xbl and you don't want to pay you shouldn't complain about not being able to dl demos tell that guy hes stupid and if hes french tell him to suck himself cause everyone I've met from france sucks and if you trash talk them they team kill cause they suck thats why they havn't won any wars =\

[Lenny]

Of course everyone from France sucks. They're French. It goes without saying.

And he can't afford a paid XBL account yet. He spent all his money on the 360, some games and a HDTV monitor dealy.

And they're Demos for Pete's sake! Why do you need to pay for a demo? That's what the internet is for - free demos.

You can get them all free on the PS3 network, so why not on XBL?

[MightyJoe]

XBox always has stupid rip offs of pc games (Counter Strike) and Halo


Are you retarded? Halo came out for X box first, then a few years (??) later it came out for PC.

[Raziel]

Of course everyone from France sucks. They're French. It goes without saying.

Incorrect. Ubisoft is based in France, and they make Rayman, Prince of Persia and Beyond Good & Evil, three phenomenal franchises.

[Lenny]

Fine, I'll rephrase that.

"Of course 99.9% of people from France suck. They're French. It goes without saying."

[Slyvr]

Are you retarded? Halo came out for X box first, then a few years (??) later it came out for PC.



I said all xbox has is ripp offs of pc games (COUNTER STRIKE!!!!!) .................................................. .................................................. .....................................and Halo!!

Ok...reword...All Xbox has is Halo and stupid rip offs of pc games....are we good now?

[!King_Amazon!]

And the best online play of any of the 3 consoles. Don't forget that part.

[Slyvr]

Why would I want to play pc ripp offs online on an xbox when I can do it on a pc? Xbox is a waste of money...

[!King_Amazon!]

To play with multiple friends online using PCs, each friend has to have a really nice PC. I suppose you could have a lan-party type thing where you all get your computers together and play, but a single Xbox can allow 4 people to play online in the same room.

If anything, the Xbox is at least half decent. Nintendo's console almost always has a large majority of games aimed at younger people. The Playstation has been rocking out the sports and racing type games a lot(it's actually quite rediculous now.) Just because the Xbox has games that you can also play on PC (imagine that, microsoft making games for their console that are playable on their computers) doesn't mean that it sucks. Some games that the Xbox has would take a hell of a computer to run, which would cost a lot more. Some people prefer to play console games rather than computer games.

[Lenny]

Some games that the Xbox has would take a hell of a computer to run, which would cost a lot more.

GoW is one good example.

The beauty of consoles is that the hardware is so powerful, and it never needs upgrading, as you would do with a PC.

The games are designed to run specifically on the console they are for, and so can be specially programmed for it.

[!King_Amazon!]

The beauty of consoles is that the hardware is so powerful, and it never needs upgrading, as you would do with a PC.

Well, actually, that's only really half true. You don't have to upgrade your console to play games that are released for that console, but once a new console comes out you do have to upgrade to play those(Example: You can't play Xbox360 games on your Xbox, thus you have to upgrade.)

[Lenny]

I see what you're saying... but it's going to be at least 10 years until I need to fork out £5000 for a PS4.

Probably 6 or so years until the Xbox World-President-Infinity comes out.

[Slyvr]

It's the same with computers. And computers can run all games for consoles. Computers freikin make the consoles. And you don't have to update ur computer for several years, but most people do because they want the best quality graphix, etc. Computer ARE better than consoles.

[!King_Amazon!]

It's the same with computers. And computers can run all games for consoles. Computers freikin make the consoles. And you don't have to update ur computer for several years, but most people do because they want the best quality graphix, etc. Computer ARE better than consoles.
Consoles are low maintainance compared to computers.

And show me how exactly I can play Wii games on my computer and I'll agree with you.

[Lenny]

Heh heh heh...

A British company has been designing controllers like the Wiimote, but slightly different technology (does exactly the same thing but differently) that will plug into a PC, an eventually a console, via USB.

If they can get devs to program their games to support the controllers, we could soon see Wii-style swing-em-up games on the PC.

[Slyvr]

Consoles are for dipsticks that don't know how to use a compootur machine

[Raziel]

Is that why the PC gaming industry is swirling down the toilet and the console market is quickly overtaking the movie industry as the dominant form of entertainment media? Because it's an inferior medium? Okey doke.

[Lenny]

Absolute bollocks.

Every single member on this forum is extremely competent with using a Computer, which each probably being the one out of their group of friends who'll get asked about computer problems. And I can guarentee that nearly every single one of us is a Console Gamer as well.

Console Gaming is so different to PC Gaming. The way the game are played, the fact that keyboards and mice are superfluous, the vast majority of the games.

Why limit yourself to PC Gaming which, as Raziel said, is going down the pan, when you can explore the world of gaming available on consoles?

[!King_Amazon!]

Comparing console gaming to PC gaming is like trying to compare apples to elephants.

[Grav]

Apples never forget.

[gruesomeBODY]

The wii is fun, but let me say that it takes no effort to swing the damn thing. I was playing zelda the other day and legit was just sitting there moving my wrist, no other movments were needed. i might have to sue nitendo for soreness in the hand area. It was fun though.

For me, the 360 will always be my favorite. Ive played all three systems, and found that i liked the 360 graphics better. GOW and other games (Quake 4) have been pretty good. Zelda is awesome for wii, but i really dont see anything else giving the system a push. PS3 is alright i guess, but i never liked the original or 2, so i wasnt into it. All 3 are great, but like i said, 360 will be for me.

[Slyvr]

I never said I didn't play consoles. I just don't like them as much as computers. And I restrict myself to computers because I don't want to waste my money on both. But I guess it all comes down to your personal opinion. I prefer mouse and keyboard, so I prefer pc.

[WetWired]

You can game on the PlayStation 2 with a keyboard and mouse.

[!King_Amazon!]

You can game on the PlayStation 2 with a keyboard and mouse.
WW wins.

[Slyvr]

You can game on the PlayStation 2 with a keyboard and mouse.

I know, but you can use controlers with computers too.

[Great-Thanatos]

I know, but you can use controlers with computers too.

Ya, but they SUCK

[Slyvr]

Controlers are controlers...What makes pc controlers different?

[Lenny]

Talking about controllers...

http://www.psu.com/node/6176

With Linux installed, and the right drivers, the Wiimote can be used as a [gyroscopic] mouse on the PS3.

In unrelated news, I was lookingat Gyroscopic mice the other day.

And the word "seamless" springs to mind when I say I'm using the PS2 eye-toy as a webcam on my PC, and it's better quality than any other webcam I've seen.