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Demosthenes
2006-01-16, 08:13 AM
SENIOR Republican and Democrat members of Congress have urged swift action against Iran, including UN-mandated economic sanctions, as the sense of crisis over Iran's decision to resume uranium enrichment escalated in Washington.

Republican Senator John McCain, a leading candidate for the party's presidential nomination in 2008, said Iran's decision to restart research into enriching uranium, a major step on the road to developing nuclear weapons, was "the most grave situation we have faced" since the end of the Cold War.

"The Iranians showed their face when their President came to the UN and advocated the eradication of the State of Israel from the Earth," he said. "We must go to the UN now for sanctions.

"If the Russians and the Chinese, for reasons that would be abominable, do not join us, then we will have to go with the states that are willing."

Asked whether the US should consider military action against Iran, Senator McCain said it should not be ruled out, though he said that any military action could have grave consequences.

"But there's only one thing worse than the United States exercising the military option; that is a nuclear-armed Iran. The military option is the last option but cannot be taken off the table," he said.

Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein, a leading critic of the Bush Administration's handling of the Iraq war, agreed with Senator McCain that Iran's nuclear ambitions represented a grave threat not only to Middle East stability, but to the "whole international community".

"Iran has much more opportunity to create devastation in the Middle East than Iraq at this time," she said. "I think it's a very serious threat."

In London, US and European representatives are meeting to discuss how to get Russia and China to agree to Security Council action against Iran, something that China, in particular, has shown great reluctance to countenance. The meeting follows a decision by the EU negotiating countries — Britain, France and Germany — with Iran to end talks after Tehran said it would remove the special seals from its uranium enrichment equipment.

Democrat and Republican members of Congress agreed that it was preferable for action to be taken against Iran through UN-imposed sanctions, but there was recognition that Russia and China might veto such a move.

Russia has a $US1 billion ($A1.3 billion) project in Iran to build the country's first nuclear reactor and Iran is one of China's major oil suppliers. Senator McCain agreed that any action against Iran by the UN could seriously disrupt oil supplies and have a serious impact on the world economy. "If the price of oil has to go up then that's a consequence we would have to suffer."

Meanwhile, Newsweek has reported that International Atomic Energy Agency head Mohamed ElBaradei says he cannot be sure that Iran's nuclear program is for peaceful purposes. "For the last three years we have been doing intensive verification in Iran and even after after three years, I am not yet in a position to make a judgement on the peaceful nature of the program," he says.

"If they have the nuclear material and they have a parallel weaponisation program along the way, they are really not very far — a few months — from a weapon."

^ ^This is complete and utter bullshit.

Grav
2006-01-16, 11:50 AM
Sen. John McCain - "But there's only one thing worse than the United States exercising the military option; that is a nuclear-armed Iran."

Anyone else find that hilarious? The only thing worse than U.S. soldiers killing thousands of civilians is a nuclear bomb.

Lenny
2006-01-16, 01:00 PM
^ ^This is complete and utter bullshit.

Nice touch. :)

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The only reason no-one wants Iran to have nuclear weapons is because they want to be the big boys. Only the big boys belong to the nuclear weapons group. If you're not liked by the US then you're not joining, simple as. So therefore, no weapons for you.

Kaneda
2006-01-16, 08:51 PM
And the fact that Iran is a major terrorist harborer(sp).

Personally I'm kinda of split on where I stand. The contriversy(sp) :rolleyes: over oil is only going to get worse and worse everywhere as we drain more and more of it. So we either have to go overthere and litterally just take it all right now, and annex Iran as part of America or you someone is going to have to take one for the team and start sucking some Irany dick, so:
1. They don't start another fucking world war.
2. Oil

logik
2006-01-16, 11:43 PM
Meh, I just see cash and greedy people in government. It's all setup and played out in many different ways. You think the other countrys are at fault but truthfully we just make them look bad so we can go kill them and steal their posessions.

Lenny
2006-01-17, 10:01 AM
And the oil. Musn't forget the oil.

Kill
Steal
Oil

I'm surprised there's no a-raping and a-pillaging and a-rushing-around-in-horned-helmets-setting-fire-to-the-thatch-as-people-run-away-screaming-for-life-ing.

And in the end, Bush can just blame it all on God.

"He came to me in a vision and told me to inviade Tie-Rack and then invade Tie-Ranch."

Penny_Bags
2006-01-19, 11:05 PM
Unless my eyes have failed me this isn't Bush's statement? It seems to me that writing "BUllSHit" and bashing the president where it is not due isn't an effective method of creating an argument. I don't understand the constant need to bash him. Sure he's a bad president, but what does the topic of this article and this thread have to do with him? Partisan bullshit cheapshots only weaken your argument and make you look immature.

Dar_Win
2006-01-20, 10:27 AM
He's like 13 years old, what do you expect?

Thanatos
2006-01-20, 11:36 AM
The most mature and intelligent 13 year old I know. Pretty sure he's 14 now.

stfu darwin!

Dar_Win
2006-01-20, 01:49 PM
You have your own opinions, I have mine. If you don't want to hear mine, you can go to a different forum.

Demosthenes
2006-01-20, 02:28 PM
Unless my eyes have failed me this isn't Bush's statement? It seems to me that writing "BUllSHit" and bashing the president where it is not due isn't an effective method of creating an argument. I don't understand the constant need to bash him. Sure he's a bad president, but what does the topic of this article and this thread have to do with him?

Meh, I bash the president every chance I get. I think pretty much wherever I write "bullshit" I highlight the bu and sh, so it's not just this thread. I'm not trying to start an argument, or be partisian, I was just posting a news article, along with bashing bush on every chance I get.

Partisan bullshit cheapshots only weaken your argument and make you look immature.

I agree. But I wasn't really starting an argument, or even trying to be partisian . . . I just . . . do that.

He's like 13 years old, what do you expect?

What in the name of flying fuck is that supposed to mean? Have nothing intelligent to say so you attack my age? Like that hasn't been overdone. Age, in an argument, and especially at a forum, is practically meaningless. If I have valid points, whether you agree with them or not, what difference does my age make?

And yea . . . on that note, age obviously doesn't make that huge of a difference, I'll be graduating high-school at 15 so . . . yea.

Pretty sure he's 14 now.


Correct. 15 soon.

Hades-Knight
2006-01-20, 04:44 PM
Take Off Every Zig!

Penny_Bags
2006-01-21, 10:09 AM
Meh, I bash the president every chance I get. I think pretty much wherever I write "bullshit" I highlight the bu and sh, so it's not just this thread. I'm not trying to start an argument, or be partisian, I was just posting a news article, along with bashing bush on every chance I get.



I agree. But I wasn't really starting an argument, or even trying to be partisian . . . I just . . . do that.
Well in that case, you are fine! haha... but if you were starting an arguement........... heh :P

Jamesadin
2006-01-21, 11:43 AM
Just move to Canada. Problem solved.

Demosthenes
2006-01-21, 03:10 PM
Just move to Canada. Problem solved.

In that case the "Our" in this threads title would be replaced with "America's."

Dar_Win
2006-01-21, 04:09 PM
What's the temperature in your area, James?

Jamesadin
2006-01-21, 06:17 PM
-10 C.

Not bad for this time of the year.

Dar_Win
2006-01-21, 08:41 PM
That's pretty cold. It was 55 F here, that's almost a record high for this time of year. Why is it so warm everywhere?

gruesomeBODY
2006-01-21, 10:48 PM
fucken global warming. Soon the ice caps will melt and we will all be living like that movie Waterworld staring Kevin Costner. But this time, hell pay for somebody to make him a boat and find "dry land."

Lenny
2006-01-22, 03:17 AM
Ever read a book called 'Exodus'? That's about a world under water. They've got these giant cities built on huge stilts in the middle of the oceans.

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Dar_Win, it ain't too warm here. 'S only 3C. Then again, Northern Britain is always cold. :)

Jamesadin
2006-01-22, 01:01 PM
Pfft. This time of year theres usually a -30 C or -40 with windchill every week or two. Normal is -15 C to -20 C.

Lenny
2006-01-22, 01:22 PM
Yeah, well you are in Canadia. I don't know if you've noticed but it's kinda chilly over there.

Canada is practically the North Pole...just a lot of hundred miles away. You're a lot further North than most other people are.

Dar_Win
2006-01-22, 02:49 PM
How close to the Amercian border are you, James?