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Acer
2005-06-13, 03:21 PM
MJ is not guilty and I agree... how do you feel?

!King_Amazon!
2005-06-13, 03:23 PM
I think the case should be thrown out because of the racist jury.

JRwakebord
2005-06-13, 03:27 PM
Just heard it on the radio, here's CNN's take:

SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- A California jury found pop superstar Michael Jackson not guilty Monday of all charges in his child-molestation trial.

The jury deliberated about 32 hours before reaching its decision.

A number of Jackson's family members accompanied him to the courthouse to hear the verdict.

The verdicts were read in a packed courtroom, where a large crowd of supporters gathered outside the courthouse cheered, wept and hugged upon hearing the verdict.

Monday's verdicts capped a chain of events that began in February 2003, after the broadcast of "Living With Michael Jackson," an unflattering television documentary by British journalist Martin Bashir.

In the program, Jackson was shown holding hands with the boy now accusing him of child molestation, and he defended as "loving" his practice of letting young boys sleep in his bed.

In November of 2003, California authorities searched Jackson's Neverland Ranch, following molestation allegations against the singer. Jackson was booked on child-molestation charges that month and released on $3 million bail. Formal charges against Jackson were filed in December 2003.

A grand jury indicted the 46-year-old pop star in April 2004 on charges of molesting the boy at the center of the trial, giving him alcohol and conspiring to hold him and his family captive in 2003.

Jackson pleaded not guilty to the charges and did not testify during the trial.

Jurors had deliberated during the course of seven days. Testimony and closing arguments stretched nearly 14 weeks before the jury got the case.

Prosecutors alleged that, following the broadcast of the Bashir documentary in 2003, Jackson and five associates plotted to control and intimidate the accuser's family to get them to go along with damage-control efforts, including holding them against their will at Neverland. The molestation charges relate to alleged incidents between Jackson and the accuser after the Bashir documentary aired.

Jackson's lawyers, however, consistently portrayed the singer as a naive victim of the accuser's family, who, they claimed, were grifters -- schemers -- with a habit of wheedling money out of the rich and famous.

The Jackson trial was full of salacious testimony, dramatic moments and celebrity defense witnesses.

Among the more than 130 people who testified were former child star Macaulay Culkin. He disputed testimony from earlier witnesses who claimed they saw Jackson behaving inappropriately with him in the early 1990s.

On March 10, the first day Jackson's accuser testified, the pop star arrived late for court as the judge threatened to revoke the singer's $3 million bail. Jackson, claiming he had a back injury severe enough to require a hospital visit, finally came to court in pajamas and slippers, walking gingerly while supported by a bodyguard and his father.

The accuser, now 15, testified in graphic detail about what he claims were molestations by Jackson on two separate occasions in early 2003. During cross-examination, however, the teenager admitted he told an administrator at his school that nothing happened between him and the singer.

Prosecution witnesses included the accuser's mother, who was on the stand for three days, and a former security guard who testified that he saw Jackson engaged in oral sex with another teenage boy.

That boy received an out-of-court settlement in his family's molestation case against the pop star for an undisclosed amount. Jackson was not charged in that case and denied any wrongdoing.

Testimony in the trial closed with prosecutors showing a police videotape in which the accuser tells detectives the singer gave him wine and masturbated him as many as five times.

Members of the jury came from a pool of 200 people from Santa Barbara County, just north of Los Angeles. The eight-woman, four-man jury ranged in age from 20 to 79, including a 21-year-old male paraplegic who said he once visited Neverland Ranch, where Jackson has a mansion, zoo and small amusement park.

slaynish
2005-06-13, 03:31 PM
this is GOOD
i love michael

KagomJack
2005-06-13, 03:31 PM
MJ is not guilty and I agree... how do you feel?
I feel that it bullshit.

!King_Amazon!
2005-06-13, 03:36 PM
I thought we were talking about Mjordan...

Acer
2005-06-13, 04:06 PM
not at all... the jury had seen all the facts we didnt. their decision is the most reliable atm

Penny_Bags
2005-06-13, 04:33 PM
I think he's..... insane.

kockblocker1
2005-06-13, 04:55 PM
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/5092/hacks9hb.jpg

JRwakebord
2005-06-13, 05:18 PM
Insane he may be, but a child molestor? I don't know. He genuinely does not seem to find anything sexual about children. And I agree with Acer. The jury saw all of the evidence and made their decision accordindly. We have not.

Jamesadin
2005-06-13, 05:22 PM
I have a feeling that he did do it, he just seems like the kind of guy who would do it...

Maybe im just an asshole, though.

Acer
2005-06-13, 10:47 PM
I totally see where people would think he did it. I've watched many bio's on him tho. He is a child in a man's body. He had no childhood so he is living it now. So he plays and takes care of them. Because he is so different people seem to think he would do that because he isnt like that. I am not saying he didnt, i just dont think he did it personally.

HandOfHeaven
2005-06-13, 10:49 PM
The thing is, we will never know if he did it or not. I really think he didn't do it, I was so glad he was acquitted

Titusfied
2005-06-13, 10:49 PM
I hope he rots in hell.

Sovereign
2005-06-14, 12:12 AM
Wait another 5 years and ask me agian after his next trial.

LiveWire
2005-06-14, 12:16 AM
When i have a son, im going to bring him to neverland so i can sue him.

-=Rico-GP=-
2005-06-14, 12:30 AM
http://img120.echo.cx/img120/5092/hacks9hb.jpg

LMAO WTF?!

undeadzombieguy
2005-06-14, 01:03 AM
Maybe he did, maybe he didnt, I dont trust any legal system that uses a jury. Thriller still rocks though... :p

Thanatos
2005-06-14, 07:39 AM
I hope he rots in hell.

Seconded. I didn't know the American justice system was this bad.

Kaneda
2005-06-14, 08:45 AM
They're both guilty, the bitch who took her kid there and LET MJ moleste her sons and MJ for doing it.

Sovereign
2005-06-14, 09:05 AM
I heard somewhere that MJ is so in debt that he is being forced to sell that ranch. Don't remember from where though. Never cared to double check.

undeadzombieguy
2005-06-14, 09:09 AM
http://www.alldumb.com/item/12169/ :haha:

Yeah Sov I heard that too. No more money for plastic surgery...:eek: his face would probably fall apart after a week.

!King_Amazon!
2005-06-14, 10:20 AM
It's amazing how such a great musician can be ruined by the media like this.

Mantralord
2005-06-14, 11:13 AM
I want him to go to jail, not because he may have molested children, but because of his rampant exploitation of democracy, just like most other celebrities and athletes.

Seriously, no one should get paid that much to fucking entertain. This is exactly why I favor a more communist-like society, to protect the common moron from themselves. Sweden is a perfect example of the sort of government I like. The tax rate is so high that no one can be megarich without giving tons of money back to society. On the other hand, school and college there are free, so practically anyone can get educated if they wanted to. Money isn't an issue for that sort of stuff like it is here. So many people in America forfeit a college education because they simply can't afford it. So many others because of the work involved to pay yourself through college, and the loans after that. Stuff like this keeps people dumb, and dumb people find solice in cheap entertainment like movies and shit. It's a cycle.

Lenny
2005-06-14, 12:36 PM
The jury do believe that he molests children, but after considering all the evidence they had they decided that he was innocent on all accounts...also they didn't like the mothers thingies...I saw a clip from one of your chat shows and a member of the jury was on and said: "And when she finished she snapped her fingers at us. And I thought, lady, don't you snap your fingers at me!"

:p

It's a shame he wasn't found guilty...this world needs some entertainment for a bit...

!King_Amazon!
2005-06-14, 02:36 PM
I would agree with you that Sweden's economic system is a terrific one, but they aren't communist.

Mantralord
2005-06-14, 02:59 PM
I would agree with you that Sweden's economic system is a terrific one, but they aren't communist.

The resulting society from that sort of government leans towards communism as compared to the US, that's what I meant.

!King_Amazon!
2005-06-14, 03:54 PM
Communism sucks, Sweden does not.

Mantralord
2005-06-14, 04:36 PM
Since there's no getting through to you: wanananananana k_A PENIS random random kaos end journal.

JRwakebord
2005-06-14, 05:03 PM
Yeah Sov I heard that too. No more money for plastic surgery...:eek: his face would probably fall apart after a week.


Duct Tape.

kockblocker1
2005-06-14, 05:53 PM
LMAO WTF?!

He is guilty. Money talks.

MJ HAX

-=Rico-GP=-
2005-06-14, 06:02 PM
Hahaha oh man that picture rocks.

HandOfHeaven
2005-06-14, 09:37 PM
Michael Jackson's asshole would become the size of a watermelon in a matter of minutes at the prison.

-=Rico-GP=-
2005-06-14, 10:11 PM
I doubt anyone would touch him in prison.

Have you seen his FACE?

HandOfHeaven
2005-06-14, 10:27 PM
I doubt anyone would touch him in prison.

Have you seen his FACE?

Two words: Fresh Meat.

-=Rico-GP=-
2005-06-15, 12:24 AM
Fresh? FRESH?

+1

slaynish
2005-06-15, 12:55 AM
Your gay,



Senior Member.

Demosthenes
2005-06-15, 05:54 AM
MJ is not guilty and I agree... how do you feel?

Never, never, never call Michael Jackson "MJ!" It's disrespectful to Michael Jordan. To properly talk about Michael Jackson, we have to actually spell out his name, or make it distinctively different than Michael Jordan's initials, as such: mj. He doesn't deserve to be called "MJ."

Anyway, this is unbelievable. The man should be in jail from last time. Now, really I guess it's Jackson's word against the boy's, but how much can you trust a man made of wax? He should be in jail from last time whether he's guilty or not this time. Just goes to show off our fabulous judicial system.

JRwakebord
2005-06-15, 07:38 AM
Two words: Fresh Meat.


Or two other words: Paper Bag.

Thanatos
2005-06-15, 08:48 AM
There were 10 counts against him, correct? He was found not guilty on all 10. Come on, the man has 10 different occasions where he did this shit and he's not even guilty for one? Give me a break.

Acer
2005-06-15, 12:09 PM
11 counts, 5 kids... 5 for molestation, 5 for giving alcohol

Kaneda
2005-06-15, 01:13 PM
Right, that would make ten.



Anyway, this is unbelievable. The man should be in jail from last time. Now, really I guess it's Jackson's word against the boy's, but how much can you trust a man made of wax? He should be in jail from last time whether he's guilty or not this time. Just goes to show off our fabulous judicial system.
The thing is this time he wasn't fully guilty, hence he didn't just pay the bitch and her kids off like he did w/ the others. They knew they could get him off because the mother basically let him do it to her kids so she could get money. The defense's storys had to many flaws.

As far as our judicial system, thats part of living in a democratic America, I personally wouldn't have it any other way. Ya some guilty people go free, and some innocent guys are pooping marshmellow fudgecakes, but theres really no other fair way. People have to be able to prove they're innocent or guilty.

Mantralord
2005-06-15, 02:41 PM
There were 10 counts against him, correct? He was found not guilty on all 10. Come on, the man has 10 different occasions where he did this shit and he's not even guilty for one? Give me a break.

Jewish lawyers.

Acer
2005-06-15, 08:51 PM
but only 5 kids, two counts for each kid

undeadzombieguy
2005-06-16, 05:00 AM
If MJ holla'd me up asking if I want to, in exchange for mad amounts of cash, come over to his neverland to look at porn, drink booze and let him touch me a little bit... I would sooo do it.

I've got the whore gene.

Kaneda
2005-06-16, 05:54 AM
I don't see why he doesn't just go down to Mexico and grab a couple kids. It would be hella cheap, and the Mexicans couldn't ever sue.

Thanatos
2005-06-16, 08:38 AM
but only 5 kids, two counts for each kid

Ok, so there were 5 different kids. If there was one kid I could understand the whole plot against him and he's innocent. No, there were 5 different kids; this isn't some huge conspiracy!

BLAH. Screw Michael Jackson (I agree with mjordan, do not call Michael Jackson MJ)

Demosthenes
2005-06-16, 02:02 PM
As far as our judicial system, thats part of living in a democratic America, I personally wouldn't have it any other way. Ya some guilty people go free, and some innocent guys are pooping marshmellow fudgecakes, but theres really no other fair way. People have to be able to prove they're innocent or guilty.

Well, I don't think that it's fair if innocent people are sitting in jail while guilty people are living it up in Neverland. I don't think that's fair. It may be the best way we have so far, but it's certainly not fair. If someone were to come up with a better system, I'd be willing to change. Of course, convincing everyone would be more difficult, because generally, people don't like change as long as the system is working for them, and since the system only screws over a select few people, I doubt a change is coming any time soon. Now, I'm not going to gripe any more about our judicial system, but all I meant by my one statement is what I've said above: simply that it's flawed. Now, whether you could ever make a flawless system is debatable, but this way is flawed, in my opinion, though I agree that it's better than many alternatives.

Mantralord
2005-06-16, 02:32 PM
I don't see why he doesn't just go down to Mexico and grab a couple kids. It would be hella cheap, and the Mexicans couldn't ever sue.

Yes, Hispanics are all cheap and useless, right? Why don't you recommend he grab a Canadian kid? I mean, it's the exact same concept, right? Bigot.

Acer
2005-06-16, 06:53 PM
but they all came after when that one kid confess... if i was one of those parents i know this would be a perfect time