Demosthenes
2005-06-04, 10:30 PM
Keep in mind, I'm a mod, and I can't be too much of an ass.
The topic of, "cursing makes you look like you have a small vocabulary came up," and so I replied:
I've been here since the very beginning pretty much, and throughout my stay here there have never been any restrictions on what can and can not be said aside from the restriction on the discussion of warez, hacking, and personal flames, as far as I can remember off of the top of my head. I'm pretty sure that's not changing any time soon.
To which this guy replied:
As I said earlier, it is usually just indicative of a paucity of useful vocabulary and a pseudo-macho strut. With an entire lifetime behind me, including a stint as a swabbie, there's little, if anything, I haven't said -- in several languages. I'm not entirely beyond that, but it's as unimpressive as obfuscated code, fake ghetto, and other things of that ilk. I am not a censor. If you want my view on that, read the main page of my site at http://www.daweidesigns.com. Fluff and fake jargon, as well as euphemisms and other worthless expressions, merely make me step off into the grass and puke on my shoes.
Actually, that's not quite true. Some of the most articulate people I know curse like a sailor. Cursing is not really indicative of a small vocabulary or your level of intelligence, rather, cursing is just the norm. Secondly, you could be the most eloquent writer of all time, but it would be pretty much irrelevant here as long as you could express your ideas or questions on programming succinctly.
Perhaps you missed my use of the word, "usually". My statement stands, but is certainly not a legislation of other's opinions. Perhaps you also missed my reference to being a sailor, and the practice of the semantics thereof. I will add a new statement: obfuscated code and programming succintly are not the same thing.
Clearly, I am not a foe of outspokenness, having just been banned from a forum permanently after having "insulted admins", despite having contributed a large number of posts. I have lived in million-dollar houses and I have lived on the streets of the ghetto. I have worked in the boardroom and at day-labor. I have worked among high-ranking fools and among crackheads, speed-freaks, and drunks. A fool is a fool, whatever the reason.
Good, solid product impresses me. Product that is successful as judged by the bottom line and by its contribution to the lives of ordinary people, in the marketplace. Some of my posts, should they occur, will address that sort of coding. It is my way. Some of my posts will provide actual, working code (though rarely production-level, in this environment), proposed as a direct solution for the OP. Whatever.
I make mistakes. When I discover them, I apologize. I am not a believer in misleading neophyte programmers with protestations of my superiority and the putting forth of my personal preferences as law. I despise self-anointed gurus and high priests, every bit as much as I despise other fakes, whether their fakery is planned or just unthinking.
Now, the first paragraph, of course I caught the use of the word "usually", but I'm disagreeing with that. That doesn't really matter, though. And the sailor thing was done on purpose. Guess he didn't realize that. Now, he completely lost me on the last three paragraphs. What should I say?
The topic of, "cursing makes you look like you have a small vocabulary came up," and so I replied:
I've been here since the very beginning pretty much, and throughout my stay here there have never been any restrictions on what can and can not be said aside from the restriction on the discussion of warez, hacking, and personal flames, as far as I can remember off of the top of my head. I'm pretty sure that's not changing any time soon.
To which this guy replied:
As I said earlier, it is usually just indicative of a paucity of useful vocabulary and a pseudo-macho strut. With an entire lifetime behind me, including a stint as a swabbie, there's little, if anything, I haven't said -- in several languages. I'm not entirely beyond that, but it's as unimpressive as obfuscated code, fake ghetto, and other things of that ilk. I am not a censor. If you want my view on that, read the main page of my site at http://www.daweidesigns.com. Fluff and fake jargon, as well as euphemisms and other worthless expressions, merely make me step off into the grass and puke on my shoes.
Actually, that's not quite true. Some of the most articulate people I know curse like a sailor. Cursing is not really indicative of a small vocabulary or your level of intelligence, rather, cursing is just the norm. Secondly, you could be the most eloquent writer of all time, but it would be pretty much irrelevant here as long as you could express your ideas or questions on programming succinctly.
Perhaps you missed my use of the word, "usually". My statement stands, but is certainly not a legislation of other's opinions. Perhaps you also missed my reference to being a sailor, and the practice of the semantics thereof. I will add a new statement: obfuscated code and programming succintly are not the same thing.
Clearly, I am not a foe of outspokenness, having just been banned from a forum permanently after having "insulted admins", despite having contributed a large number of posts. I have lived in million-dollar houses and I have lived on the streets of the ghetto. I have worked in the boardroom and at day-labor. I have worked among high-ranking fools and among crackheads, speed-freaks, and drunks. A fool is a fool, whatever the reason.
Good, solid product impresses me. Product that is successful as judged by the bottom line and by its contribution to the lives of ordinary people, in the marketplace. Some of my posts, should they occur, will address that sort of coding. It is my way. Some of my posts will provide actual, working code (though rarely production-level, in this environment), proposed as a direct solution for the OP. Whatever.
I make mistakes. When I discover them, I apologize. I am not a believer in misleading neophyte programmers with protestations of my superiority and the putting forth of my personal preferences as law. I despise self-anointed gurus and high priests, every bit as much as I despise other fakes, whether their fakery is planned or just unthinking.
Now, the first paragraph, of course I caught the use of the word "usually", but I'm disagreeing with that. That doesn't really matter, though. And the sailor thing was done on purpose. Guess he didn't realize that. Now, he completely lost me on the last three paragraphs. What should I say?