Nintendo Revolution...

[Draco2003]

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I have seen the PS3 and XBOX 360, and am not impressed. I will buy them however, but the system I am personally looking forward to is this one. Although it is a little caddywompus, it looks sleek. AND, whats more, is that it ONLY PLAYS GAMES. No, "Velocity Girl making stickers and skateparks, or Mom talking to Grandma through the thing." And the best feature? Being able to download EVERY SINGLE GAME from thier older systems. Now for the younger generation, this means nothing. But for us older gamers, we no longer have to search across the country or pay some nerd 300 bucks for a copy of Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana, but only a small fee and download the game, and then play it on the Revolution. Sure, PS3 has Killzone 2, and XBOX 360 has Halo 3, but what could Nintendo possibly have, right? Well, Shigeru Miyamoto has stated that there WILL be a game for each of its super famous characters (Mario, Samus, Link) and 2 will be available at launch....and even better, Nintendo is pushing to get Super Smash Bros 3 ready for launch. Now, that is alone makes me wanna get it. And for the record, I AM NOT A NINTENDO FANBOY!!! I have a PS2 and XBOX as well as a Gamecube, but in this round, Nintendo just seems to be the only one staying dedicated to gaming.

Oh, and for those of you who care, they released a SMALLER Gameboy Advance. Yes, smaller. As in be careful where your thumbs are, or you'll cover the entire screen small. An idea of how small it is, look at your credit card......yeah about that size......

And to people who missed me, sorry I been gone for so long, I was busy with work, and my personal studies. O.O.....do I still have my job as animator in the Game Crew??? You guys probably forgot all about me......

[D3V]

Nobody cares about the 'revolution'. I think Nintendo should take the route of Sega and make games for the good consoles.

[Hades-Knight]

I wholeheartily agree with D3v for once.

[Kaneda]

Suckanut.
I care and I also think the downloadable games is an amsome idea. Ive heard rumors they are deciding on wether they want to make that option free or not. If they did it would be insane, but I doubt they will. Still...

[Sovereign]

Yes. Just because they don't make the kind of games YOU like, they must suck.

:rolleyes:

THe whole download thing would OWN.

Id be able to play super mario RPG and the Mega Man games again!!!!!! Oh oh, and those 8 bit mario games I used to play at the day care when I was younger!!!!!

Maybe I'll get the system when the price is reduced.

[undeadzombieguy]

It can also play DVD's so it wont just be games. That downloading thing sounds awesome. Also IMO this is the best looking system yet.

[Original Sin]

So many people will still mod which ever system they have in order to get those games it doesn't even matter that Nintendo are offering a downlaod of them.

[Kaneda]

so your saying i can mod my GCN or my xbox right now and play megaman 4?

[Original Sin]

Actually, yes you can mod your xbox. Don't know about a GCN.

My bro has a friend who has a modded Xbox that we sometimes borrow, has all the NES, SNES and a bunch of N64 roms on it, aswell as Xbox games and PS1 games. You can also rip Xbox games.

[HandOfHeaven]

I love the concept of the downloads. I still remember Mario Paint, funny shit. It'd be awesome if they came out with yet another Mario Kart soon. I love double-dash, I play it almost every night with my brother and my dad (he's actually not too bad either).

[D3V]

Here's some pics of the console itself.

http://195.157.98.220/assets/articles/a59144/ss_preview_Revo_1.jpg
http://195.157.98.220/assets/articles/a59144/ss_preview_Revo_2.jpg
http://195.157.98.220/assets/articles/a59144/ss_preview_rev_flaps.jpg

[Sovereign]

Ohhh! Ohhh! I have that game still. + the mouse to go along with it!

This new nintendoo system looks like a portable cd drive O_o

[-=Rico-GP=-]

Looks cool, but i'll probobly never buy a console after the whole, "Gamecube" incident.

[RoboticSilence]

The only thing I have against Nintendo is that they tend to overly focus on their tried and true franchises instead of putting more energy into new ideas. They have come out with many creative new games but I could care less about another Mario Party or first-person Metroid game. Now a side-scroller I could get behind.

[tidus2005]

well i personally like the idea of it "Just" playing games, because hopefully it will bring the cost of it down when compared to the other upcoming consoles. And the whole downloading games is the sweetest thing i have ever heard of as far as console gaming in a long ass time. I meand dam i still have my NES and still occasionally play it but it is getting old and sometimes i have to mess with it to get it to start games. One of my favorite NES games would have to be Battle Toads if you have played it before you know what i am talking about.

[RoboticSilence]

I once played only Battletoads for 3 months and never beat it.

[tidus2005]

What? how did you never beat it? I have played it for many hours just to beat it. The game is even better if you play it with a friend. Which Battle Toads game was it, because i think there were more than one.

[D3V]

Yeah Pokemon stadium and Mario Party is only fun so many times....then it seriously gets old and the zip of playing it is gone.

I'm just waiting on a list of specs for the system/launch date/price/list of games for the launch before I make and rash decisions if I like it or not.

[tidus2005]

have you tried playing Super Smash Brothers Melee it totally kicks ass and has never lost it's "ZIP" it is what i consider the HALO of Game Cube.

[D3V]

Sarcasm on the pokemon stadium, but SSBM is pretty fun to play if you get around to it, it's just the fact that there is so much more you can do. Iuno, I don't have a gamecube but if I did that's what'd I'd be playing while i'm waiting for Zelda.

[Raziel]

Revolution looks awesome, so far. I love the design. Personally, I think it's the best-looking of the three. The PS3 looks like a printer and the controller is an abomination. Seriously, there was nothing wrong with the dual-shock design. Why the change? XBox 360 has an awesome controller, but I'm not terribly keen on the actual console. It looks like a PC tower. No real character or uniqueness to it.

However, the look of the hardware doesn't clue anybody in as to the nature of the console's "revolutionary" functionality, and we still haven't seen the controller. I'm definitely excited for it, but not 100% sold on it yet. Hopefully, the coming months will reveal more information about the system's real capabilities.

[Medieval Bob]

I heard a rumor somewhere that the controller is going to be touch-screen of some sort where you customize the buttons to your taste. This sort of goes along with what they've been hinting at with the downloadable functionality.

I'm not going to be satisfied with the downloading capability unless they offer at least a LOT of the games for the older consoles. I don't really give a damn about the N64 for the most part, but SNES and NES games are super fucking collectible. I've started working on my SNES collection again through ebay recently.

[Kaneda]

I thought it was supposed to be ALL previous nintendo games.

[Medieval Bob]

Ya, that's what I thought, but some guy they interviewed on G4TV from Nintendo said that they would have many favorites available for download. If it was going to be all, he would have said "ALL!!! ALL!!"

[!King_Amazon!]

I've also heard that it's any game that has been on a nintendo system.

I have a Gamecube, last time I played it was months ago. It's a waste of space. I've got Metroid Prime, SSBM, and Super Mario Sunshine, and none of them are entertaining. SSBM was fun for about an hour, Super Mario Sunshine was a few hours. Metroid Prime is the only one of the three that I actually played more than a day, and I beat it and no longer have any urge to play it again.

Forgot to state my point. My point is, I'm not the only person that feels this way about the Gamecube, so I'm hoping Nintendo was smart about this new system. It seems like they have done a good job but until I know a few things I'm not sold on it either.

[Raziel]

King, the exact same thing can be said about the PS2, or the XBox. I barely use my PS2. Aside from my recent binge with the Ratchet games, I haven't played the thing in months. There are also many people who share this same sentiment. Does that mean Sony shoould completely alter their gameplan simply to appease people like me? No. That's retarded, and it's retarded to expect Nintendo to do the same for you.

If the GCN isn't for you, that's fine. The XBox isn't for me, but you don't hear me howling at Microsoft to completely alter the soul of their business acumen, do you? You've grown out of Nintendo. Don't expect them to follow you.

[Kaneda]

Well guys here it is! Wanana!

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/nintendo_revolution_controller.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

[Lenny]

What in gods name is that??!

It looks like some kind of...cheap, plastic prototype...

[Original Sin]

As you may or may not have noticed, with all or most of the pics of the PS3 and its controllers at the bottom it said something along the lines as "subject to change".

Think about it, there is a long time before it's launch and they could possibly due anything they wanted to the system and controllers. It was just a the unveiling of a system, nothing said that what you saw was official.

[HandOfHeaven]

Why the fuck is there an eject button?

[tidus2005]

Yeah that is pretty sweet but i am also confused as to why there is an eject button.

[Lenny]

There needs to be, to get the disc out of the slot...

[!King_Amazon!]

King, the exact same thing can be said about the PS2, or the XBox. I barely use my PS2. Aside from my recent binge with the Ratchet games, I haven't played the thing in months. There are also many people who share this same sentiment. Does that mean Sony shoould completely alter their gameplan simply to appease people like me? No. That's retarded, and it's retarded to expect Nintendo to do the same for you.

If the GCN isn't for you, that's fine. The XBox isn't for me, but you don't hear me howling at Microsoft to completely alter the soul of their business acumen, do you? You've grown out of Nintendo. Don't expect them to follow you.
But the fact is, people don't normally say those things about the PS2 or Xbox. Nintendo has changed a lot since the SNES. It looks like they have a pretty good chance of winning me back with the new console.

[Raziel]

In response to everyone's confusion over that pic, that's not the Revolution. Are you people retarded?

To King, honestly, Nintendo hasn't changed almost at all. That's the problem. Until recently, they haven't done anything to try and remove themselves from their tried-and-true business model, and it has caused the company a lot of damage as a result.

Only now are they realizing the true importance of strong 3rd-party support, online support and a more modern image. I personally love my Gamecube, but I'd be lying through my teeth if I didn't say it looked like a Fisher Price toy. The Revolution is Nintendo's answer to demand for a more modern appeal, and the design of the hardware itself really shows this. Not to mention the fact that it's fully wireless, online enabled right out of the box, backwards compatible with nearly every Nintendo console in history, and loaded with one or two more big features that constitute the theorized "revolutionary" aspect of the system. I'm more excited for this console than I have been for anything for quite some time, and I'd expect that anyone with love for Nintendo would be as well.

[undeadzombieguy]

I'm pretty sure noone was serious about that picture...at least I hope they werent...

Backwards compatible with nearly every Nintendo console in history? Do you mean the ability to download all those games, or can you actually stick snes cartridges in there? :wierd:

[Kaneda]

lol. Its like they've never seen a nes controller before.

[JRwakebord]

Downloadable from an online database.

[WetWired]

If you can't stick in your NES FF cart and continue where you left off on your NES, it's not backwards compatibility.

[!King_Amazon!]

Yeah, it shouldn't be confused like that. The Nintendo Revolution isn't going to be backwards compatible, except maybe with the Gamecube, I dunno. The games will be downloadable. It's been recently hinted that online play will be free and that downloading games will be made "easy and very inexpensive".

[Raziel]

Semantics. You two knew exactly what I meant.

[tidus2005]

i also dont think anyone was being serious just making some smart ass comments.

[HandOfHeaven]

Yeah. I'm interested in a revolution, but may wait for price to go down, even if it might be low.

[Sum Yung Guy]

And the whole downloading games is the sweetest thing i have ever heard of as far as console gaming in a long ass time. I meand dam i still have my NES and still occasionally play it but it is getting old and sometimes i have to mess with it to get it to start games.

I download old arcade games for my xbox sometimes, its called X-Box live Arcade.

[WetWired]

This is not a semantic nuance; your use of the phrase "backwards compatable" was fundementally incorrect: the system does not provide ANY method of using your existing game collection from all previous systems on your new system. It is only backwards compatable with GCN, maybe.

[D3V]

The problem with the Revolution is that they are going to have to price it around 100 dollars to compete with the other two, (The Xbox is 299 and the ps3 is rumored at 399 I believe.)

I mean there hasn't really been any details of the REVOLUTION released to the public yet.

[Lenny]

399 dollars??!

Sweet!!! That's only 220 GBP...:D...


I'd've thought the PS3 would be much more expensive...

Ah well...

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Only a hundred dollars eh...that's what, about £55-£60??

That's pretty cheap...

[D3V]

It needs to be that cheap, i'm guessing they'll let it out around 149.99 like they did last time.

Xbox360 comes out in a few months without another version of halo and no backwards compatibility without purchasing the software for it, they are fucked.

[Lenny]

Haven't they said they're gonna release Halo 3 when the PS3 comes out??

[HandOfHeaven]

Haven't they said they're gonna release Halo 3 when the PS3 comes out??
Regardless of that, it'll still be a wait for Halo 3.

[Kaneda]

He doesnt know what the hell he's talkin about. He's just anti nintendo, so of course all his opinions are going to be biast, it doesnt matter if Nintendo released a VR system integraded into the Revolution. It would still be crap to him.

[tidus2005]

lol i remember the Virtual Boy wow talk about a flop that was a bad thing for nintendo to do.

[Raziel]

It was quicker than typing "The Revolution will be backards compatible with the GCN and will be capable of playing games from almost every other Nintendo home console previous." It's already been said several times in this thread that those games would be played via download, and my need to reiterate said statement would have been redundant. You knew what I meant, you're just being a picky nerd. Simmer down, Robocop.


The problem with the Revolution is that they are going to have to price it around 100 dollars to compete with the other two, (The Xbox is 299 and the ps3 is rumored at 399 I believe.)

That's supposed to be a bad thing? If they launch the Rev at $100 a pop, I'll buy two. You're bragging about paying over $400 for a console? You're a fucking moron!

[!King_Amazon!]

That's supposed to be a bad thing? If they launch the Rev at $100 a pop, I'll buy two. You're bragging about paying over $400 for a console? You're a fucking moron!

Agreed.

[HandOfHeaven]

That price is why people wait to purchase consoles.

[D3V]

It was quicker than typing "The Revolution will be backards compatible with the GCN and will be capable of playing games from almost every other Nintendo home console previous." It's already been said several times in this thread that those games would be played via download, and my need to reiterate said statement would have been redundant. You knew what I meant, you're just being a picky nerd. Simmer down, Robocop.




That's supposed to be a bad thing? If they launch the Rev at $100 a pop, I'll buy two. You're bragging about paying over $400 for a console? You're a fucking moron!

I woudn't be backing a system with no released information yet, all it has is a new case and a new name, no specs, no game lineups, company notes, expected price, nothing. The PS3 is rumored to have a DVD burner built in. If the system comes out at 400, no I will not get one right away, i'll wait for it to drop around 250.

I'm not anti-nintendo at all, they used to be the fucking shit, they and sega paved the way for all gaming systems. I just feel that their games have dropped off alot as they've stayed with the kiddie-type games (all 15 of the Mario Party games, whatever, theres nothing even to really highlight.) I think they should do like sega did and just make good games for everyone else.

And no, I said if they even want to sell any systems they are going to have to release it at 99, which they won't, they can't afford it. $150-$200 will be their release price. Bragging about buying two systems (especially the REVOLUTION would make you a moron. OMG I CAN PLAY MARIO PARTY 23 ON TWO TEEVEES.


Edit: Bahaha read this http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9389

Looks like you've gotta pay to play Mario Land 2. Owned. No free downloads for you, unless you just wanna play for 15 minutes.

[Lenny]

Ever heard of a little thing called an emulator??

Or a pc??

Or a download-the-emulator-and-the-game-and-play-on-the-pc??

[HandOfHeaven]

Why do you think that Nintendo releases so many 'kiddie' games? Games aren't entirely aimed at people from ages 15-25. Mario games are a staple of Nintendo, and many of them have so much free time and they drool when they see a commercial for the new Mario Party or a Spongebob Squarepants game. PS2 doesn't really have a staple character, nor does XBOX. One of the best games on Gamecube, no matter what age you are, is Mario Kart: Double Dash. I could play that for hours on end with people day after day. Quit being such a fucking prick, and thinking that Nintendo is just 'kiddie'.

[Raziel]

I woudn't be backing a system with no released information yet, all it has is a new case and a new name, no specs, no game lineups, company notes, expected price, nothing. The PS3 is rumored to have a DVD burner built in. If the system comes out at 400, no I will not get one right away, i'll wait for it to drop around 250.

Yet you have no problems attacking a console with no released information. You are such a fucking moron.

I'm not anti-nintendo at all

You have got to be kidding me.

I just feel that their games have dropped off alot as they've stayed with the kiddie-type games (all 15 of the Mario Party games, whatever, theres nothing even to really highlight.) I think they should do like sega did and just make good games for everyone else.

Wait, wait, wait. You think that Nintendo's problem is that their games are too child-oriented, yet you think it would be in their best interests to stop making consoles and just focus entirely on the games? The games you hate because they're too child-oriented? You are such a fucking moron.

And no, I said if they even want to sell any systems they are going to have to release it at 99, which they won't, they can't afford it.

Can't afford it? Are you aware that Nintendo sits on about 8 billion dollars of liquid capital, half as much in investments and stock, and they have absolutely no debt to worry about? They could afford to buy out Capcom, Konami and Sega without it even making a dent. They were able to afford setting the GCN at $100, and they're still making a profit on hardware sales. You are such a fucking moron.

$150-$200 will be their release price. Bragging about buying two systems (especially the REVOLUTION would make you a moron. OMG I CAN PLAY MARIO PARTY 23 ON TWO TEEVEES.

I'd buy one for travel and one for home use. On top of that, since they'll most likely be LAN capable, it'll make it easier to gather multiple Rev's for multiplayer purposes. You are such a fucking moron.


Edit: Bahaha read this

Yeah, that sounds like a totally unbiased response to me. Not a Nintendo-hater, huh?

Looks like you've gotta pay to play Mario Land 2. Owned. No free downloads for you, unless you just wanna play for 15 minutes.

I never said they'd be free. I was hoping they'd be, but since the official word is that they're not, I'm not disappointed in the slightest. You have to pay to buy games, you have to pay to rent games, you have to pay to play arcade titles. Therefore, it's reasonable to assume you'd have to pay to play Nintendo's downloads. I'd imagine the cost will be negligible, no more than a buck or two per game. I fail to see how that's "owned".

I'd like to reiterate one final time that you're a fucking moron. You get your ass handed to you, by me, every single time you choose to engage in these scuffles. It honestly makes me laugh to see the way your brain contorts logic and common sense in it's vain attempt to overpower mine. There's no reason for you to even respond, because all it will consist of are limp-wristed attempts to one-up me, and not a single thing you post will succeed. You lose, you always have lost, you always will lose. Just accept it and find someplace else to troll.

Moron.

[tidus2005]

I do not know about the rest of you guys but to tell you the truth i enjoy playing some of the "kiddie" games. Just because a game doesnt have you shooting someone or some typed of blood and gore doesnt mean that it is not fun to be playin. I mean i love to play Super Smash Brothers Melee and there is no blood at all in it.

[D3V]

There is nothing wrong with the 'kiddy-type' games at all. It's just when people glorify them out of fuckign proportion it's a bit too much to handle. I mean seriously, Zelda better pull gamecube out of the fucking rut that it is in right now or they're screwed.

And no flaming Raziel, this isn't the place for it, you need to have a temp-ban for the 15 times you've flamed me in the Gen Gaming forum.

[Raziel]

Zelda better pull gamecube out of the fucking rut that it is in right now or they're screwed.

Rut? Nintendo is the most successful software publisher in thw world. They turn a constant profit every year (except for 2003, in which they reported their only yearly loss in history), whereas Microsoft has lost a few billion dollars in their videogame sector in just this generation. Nintendo makes a continuous profit on hardware sales, even priced at $100, while Sony and Microsoft lose several hundred on every console they manufacture. On top of that, Nintendo is in ownership of the most successful series of gaming hardware ever produced (that being the Gameboy), as well as having no debts and several-billion dollars worth of free assets. How is that a rut? Nintendo is doing spectacularly, regardless of the fact that their global installed userbase is a fraction of Sony's. Not to mention the fact that Microsoft is slowly stealing chunks of Sony's userbase, and has more money than God with which to overcome them. Nintendo is doing exactly what they need to be. They don't have the resources to compete directly with Sony or Microsoft, so they let the big dogs tear each other apart while they attack new markets and steal untapped profits away from the other two. Nintendo is is no sort of "rut."

And I haven't been flaming you. If I typed up a post that consisted entirely of attacking you and calling you names, that would be one thing. However, my posts have been intelligent deconstructions of your idiotic statements, with a little bit of name-calling thrown in. There's a difference between flaming and arguing. I've been doing the latter in a very brusque manner. Don't like it? Eat a bag of dicks. Nobody fucking cares what you have to complain about.

[D3V]

They don't have the resources to compete directly with Sony or Microsoft, so they let the big dogs tear each other apart while they attack new markets and steal untapped profits away from the other two. Nintendo is is no sort of "rut."

They don't have the resources? They've only been the leading gaming console for 18 years they shouldn't have any issues with resources. The new markets? What children being born? I mean it's relatively easy to pop out two more pokemon games every year, and another mario party, and I guess you'd be set, gotta love Parents/christmas time, Nintendo's biggest earning period.

even priced at $100, while Sony and Microsoft lose several hundred on every console they manufacture

Wow that's a load of shit, if you could please find me some charts / statistics (not from www.nintendo.com) showing their global earning of the past few years, please share with the community, because that sounds alot like a load of horse shit. DO you even have any idea how much it costs to slap together a PS2 / Xbox? I'm guessing around 50-70 dollars, and since they are so dominant and have uber resources, they lose no money, please give me some facts bitch, and quit posting all of this lying ass bullshit. Calling me an ignorant fuck.

People only listen to you because you try to the point if somebody doesn't giggle or golfclap at it they'd feel bad for you. If anyone is the fanboy, Raziel, it'd be you. No go save your pennies for a new version of Mario Party and a Gamecube in a bigger case.

[Raziel]

They don't have the resources? They've only been the leading gaming console for 18 years they shouldn't have any issues with resources.

They don't have a hundred-billion-dollar computer corporation to fall back on, and they're not the leading manufacturer of consumer electronics either, numbnuts. They make videogames, and that's it. Their competitors have the Windows and Sony Electronics empires to fall back on. How in the name of God do you just forget about that, you warbling blob-tard?

The new markets?

People who don't play videogames normally. Sony and Microsoft continue to sell only to teen/20-year-old males, while Nintendo is aiming to make money off of the children, women and older consumer markets, all of which combined form a much larger piece of the world population than high school boys do, D3V.

Wow that's a load of shit, if you could please find me some charts / statistics (not from www.nintendo.com) showing their global earning of the past few years, please share with the community, because that sounds alot like a load of horse shit. DO you even have any idea how much it costs to slap together a PS2 / Xbox? I'm guessing around 50-70 dollars, and since they are so dominant and have uber resources, they lose no money, please give me some facts bitch, and quit posting all of this lying ass bullshit. Calling me an ignorant fuck.

For earnings, look at NPD numbers, jackass. They don't lie. None of this is secret information. It's widely reported and fully accessible to the public. You want the proof, go find it yourself. www.npd.com

As for console costs, it's widely known that Microsoft's console costs around 700 bucks per unit because it's made of expensive, off-the-shelf PC parts. However, the individual unit cost is not only derived from manufacturing costs, but in design, distribution and a few other factors that determine the overall cost of each individual unit. Search IGN or Gamespot and have a ball looking for the individual costs of the production of each console Sony and Microsoft make. They've been losing money on the XBox and PS2 since the beginning of the generation, and this is a widely known fact. It's simply a concession of being a console developer. You lose a lot of money on the console, but you make up for it by screwing the customer on game costs. The fact that you even dispute this, after having been an established fact since the dawn of the videogames industry is staggering.

In regards to Nintendo's profit on hardware, search IGN Cube for articles. I'm not about to spend an hour on dial-up looking through old Mailbags for the information you want. Again, this is widely known to be true, and IGN (the most successful, reputable and sizeable source for videogame news online) has reported this several times. Go look for yourself. I'd recommend even looking through the boards. You'll find this same argument echoed constantly, because it's the truth. Here's somewhere to start, if you feel so inclined:

http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=86621088&page=1&usecoregcookie=1&fromsubscribersendto=1

People only listen to you because you try to the point if somebody doesn't giggle or golfclap at it they'd feel bad for you.

People listen to me because I'm an intelligent, capable, respected member of the community. You, on the other hand, are a racist pig that gets off on talking constant shit about a videogame company. People listen to me because I'm awesome, people hate you because you are the textbook definition of "suck."

[Original Sin]

Just one thing, you say that as a company, you lose a lot money on the consoles but than said that NIntendo doesn't.

"You lose a lot of money on the console..." but than then you make it sound like Nintendo doesn't, which is it?

(I'm not backing up D3V, just asking. No bone to pick here)

[!King_Amazon!]

Wait, I've already seen this movie...Raziel wins.

[Lenny]

Thanks for spoiling it...:P

A nice quote I remember, arguing with Raziel is like slapping a cruise missile.

[Raziel]

The standard is that usually, all console makers lose a chunk of cash on the hardware, but make up for it in software sales. Nintendo started this generation out by making a console that, against the norm, was cheap enough to manufacture that they could actually make money off the hardware sales. There aren't any official reports or charts or sales graphs to consult, because videogame companies don't usually release that sort of information. Hardware analysts figure out exactly how much each piece of the hardware would cost to manufacture and they create an estimate based on this. The videogames industry was generally under the belief that up until they dropped the GCN price to $100, Nintendo was actually making cash on hardware sales. Whether or not they're still making a profit at this lowest price is anyone's guess, but nobody has come forth to settle the argument one way or another.

[Original Sin]

Aight, that clears it up easily. Just gotta be nice and you get a straight up answer. At $100, they must be on the line of no profit though, but maybe it only cost them $75 to make. We will never know unless Nintendo says something. Oh well.

[!King_Amazon!]

If it only costs them 75 bucks to make one, it's gonna suck.

[Original Sin]

I was refering to the Gamecube's price. Sorry for the confusion.

[tidus2005]

yeah nintendo is the leading hand held seller. Sony's PSP if you ask me is more of a Multimedia client than truely a handheld game station. I mean the PSP is basically a PDA on Steriods.

[Raziel]

Well, whether the PSP is a PDA on steroids or the second-coming of Jesus doesn't change the fact that Nintendo has the Gameboy to rely on, and its been a cash cow since 1989.

And I wouldn't say the PSP is a PDA on steroids. The DS is a PDA on steroids. It's the one with the touchscreen.

[D3V]

Well, whether the PSP is a PDA on steroids or the second-coming of Jesus doesn't change the fact that Nintendo has the Gameboy to rely on, and its been a cash cow since 1989.

And I wouldn't say the PSP is a PDA on steroids. The DS is a PDA on steroids. It's the one with the touchscreen.


You should never, ever compare a DS to a PDA. ALL it can do is play the shitty 2-bit games that come with the DS. A touch screen, wow. MY register at work has a touch-screen, does that make it a PDA also? Your 'DS' couldn't handle an OS, on the other hand, the PSP could, and is doing that right at this very instant.

Revolution will probably be stopped in the middle of production as Nintendo rerolls.

[Kaneda]

I hate that game. I thought it was terrible, stupid Gamestop, I returned it the next day and I only got like 20 bucks back. I'd rather just play Mario Kart64.

[Original Sin]

Honestly just stop posting here, you're just digging a hole to now wheres on yourself. What kind of loser sits on a forum arguing about how crappy a system, that has only had a few images and some minor specs released, and continue to say the company sucks. The Rev. will do fine, theDS is doing great(as much as I want to get a PSP, the DS is great too), stop trying to make yourself sound smart, you're failling at this horribly.

Take your anti-Nintendo ass somewheres else you corporate bitch.

[Raziel]

Not anti-Nintendo at all, are you, D3V? Man, you are such a joke.

[Ludacris]

Yo man I don't like nintendo cuz you can't get no fun games on that shit, i'm buying all three though when they hit the streets. I'ma have all them bitches up in muh housee.

[Original Sin]

who the fuck is that? Another uneducated tool in the field of video games and consoles.

Nintendo is doing just fine, plus they do havee resident evil games which clearly means it's not just a "kiddy console" but what that tells me is your way to concerned about your masculinity. You put don a console because it's small and has less violent games than otehrs, god I can't stand any of you. Remember the old Mario games, those are still 90% better than a lot of games out now and they are simple 2D non graphic games. It's not all about blood and gore, it's about quality.

Don't reply if your going to utter bullshit.

[JRwakebord]

Ludacris = Zonalon?

[Grav]

No, it's D3v.

[Kaneda]

I wish he could think of a more queer name, but I'm not sure it's possible.

[Kaneda]

Um.... wheres my post?

woops, my browser didnt update to a new page.
i guess d3v was being sarcastic in his making of the Ludacris name?

[D3V]

Yes. Just because they don't make the kind of games YOU like, they must suck.



Exactly.

[S2 AM]

Just in response to the OP because this thread is too long to read. Why not just download an emulator? I hate when later aged consoles try to push off old game that I've already payed for just for the convenience of playing them on my 'new' console. Xbox live Arcade is infamous for this.

Just download an emulator(for ANY console, not just Nintendo), download appropriate Roms, plug in your xbox 360 wired controller or wireless controller adapter into your computer's USB slot, and play old games to your heart's content. For free - minus the cost of the controller(I think xbox 360 wired ones go for $30 which is much cheaper than a console)