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KagomJack
2005-01-18, 06:09 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050113/ts_alt_afp/usbooklincoln_050113175402

NEW YORK (AFP) - A new biography of Abraham Lincoln is making headlines with its assertion that the romantic leanings of the renowned 16th president of the United States were primarily homosexual.

"The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln," by C.A. Tripp, has ruffled more than a few feathers among biographers, historians and readers alike by focusing on an issue that has been a subject of scholarly debate for years.

While other biographers have tended to skirt the question of Lincoln's sexuality, Tripp's tome tackles it head-on, suggesting Lincoln had physically intimate relations with a succession of men before and during his troubled marriage to Mary Todd.

While in his late 20s, Lincoln shared a bed with his close friend Joshua Speed for four years and, Tripp asserts, later did the same with a presidential bodyguard whenever his wife was away.

Critics of Tripp's book have pointed out that men sharing beds was common practise in the 1800s, often on a practical level, due to insufficient heating and a lack of comfortable mattresses.

Tripp, who died in May 2003, shortly after finishing the book's manuscript, spent 10 years researching his subject.

A former researcher for sex studies pioneer Alfred Kinsey, Tripp stops short of declaring Lincoln an active homosexual, but employs a measurement of sexuality developed by Kinsey to argue that he was primarily homosexual in orientation while capable of having sexual relations with women.

Tripp began the project with a co-author, Philip Nobile, but the two men later had a falling out, and Nobile has since accused his former colleague of plagiarising material and fabricating evidence of Lincoln's homosexuality.

Reviews of the book have been mixed, with several prominent critics accusing Tripp of applying modern sexual mores to 19th-century behavior and leaping to conclusions.

"Tripp can lay out a case, but his discussion of its implications is so erratic that the reader is often left on his own," The New York Times said.

Slim
2005-01-18, 06:35 PM
No, but you are! HAHA!

KagomJack
2005-01-18, 06:37 PM
HA HA HA HA HA...ZING!

But in seriousness, what did you think of the article? I found it interesting, though it's probably fabricated to cause some sort of controversy.

Slim
2005-01-18, 06:38 PM
Didn't read it, don't plan on it. Don't wanna have a picture of Abraham Lincoln having gay sex in the back of my head. I'm screwed up enough as it is.

KagomJack
2005-01-18, 06:40 PM
That's fine. It's still an interesting read. As I already said, I believe that it's just a farce to cause controversy.

Dar_Win
2005-01-19, 03:00 PM
thats some big bull shit. Abe Lincoln was a married man. Alot of people did it back then. He slept with his body guard probably because he felt insecure, and afraid of an assassination attempt on him.

Vollstrecker
2005-01-19, 05:47 PM
thats some big bull shit. Abe Lincoln was a married man. Alot of people did it back then. He slept with his body guard probably because he felt insecure, and afraid of an assassination attempt on him.

I'd rather be shot in the head, kthx.

Sovereign
2005-01-19, 07:31 PM
So many rumors over one man -.-. There was a show on discovery chan or something that abe lincoln could have been a woman with a growth disorder.

KagomJack
2005-01-19, 07:48 PM
It's funny how people want there to be something odd about a good, kind, and hard-working man who had a positive impact on life.

Thanatos
2005-01-19, 07:57 PM
I heard Lincoln was a stoner.

Demosthenes
2005-01-19, 07:58 PM
I heard Lincoln was a stoner.

*sigh*

You are all so wrong. Lincoln was one of my old incarnations. He was neither gay, nor a woman. He was more like Bernie Mac. He'll whoop your ass.

KagomJack
2005-01-19, 08:29 PM
Lincoln is a hero of mine. He worked to reform people who were being treated unfairly and he tried to make things better for the people of the time.

Mantralord
2005-01-19, 09:52 PM
Why does any of this matter?

Ganga
2005-01-19, 10:01 PM
Lincoln is a hero of mine.

Kagomjack obviously want to fuck Lincoln, but first he have to make him one of his kind.

Thanatos
2005-01-20, 05:37 AM
Kagomjack obviously want to fuck Lincoln, but first he have to make him one of his kind.

Rearn Engrish!

Slim
2005-01-20, 02:33 PM
Damn you, you beat me to it!!!!

Penny_Bags
2005-01-20, 04:21 PM
Why does any of this matter? This is the most retarded "discovery" or "theory" that I have ever heard of. The man was a fucking bad ass. If he liked fucking good ass that's his business.

Ganga
2005-01-20, 06:06 PM
Rearn Engrish!

Give me one god dam good reason to?

Thanatos
2005-01-20, 07:55 PM
I will never do it!! You cantm ake me do it ollz!!!!!!

Stupid.

Slim
2005-01-20, 09:52 PM
You live in America? If I was going to live in another country I'd do my best to learn how to speak their language.

Ganga
2005-01-21, 09:17 AM
WTF you think I am typing here? Chinese? shit.

Penny_Bags
2005-01-21, 09:49 AM
Well since he lives in America he's free to speak whatever the fuck he wants.... but.... whatever.