Game Development Team (Thread 2)

[Aurvian]

what ever happened to it

[Draco2003]

I think its still going, but there is a lack of communication. People need to discuss thier ideas and what they got, but it just seems like people want to keep everything a secret from each other. We are all in this together, and we need to atleast email each other ideas and whatever else we can come up with. The world's greatest games weren't made because each team member sat in thier own little cubicle and devised their own portion and assumed everyone elses ideas were giong to fit with his/hers. We need order, and cooperation. I think this can still work, but we gotta work with it a little.

By the way, i like your sig, Aurvian.

[Lenny]

It's still there...somewhere. Hopefully.

Anyway, I had an idea for a little...cutscene thingy at the start of the game, but it would only fit if say, the main character lost his/her memory, or wakes up on a strange beach somewhere or things like that.

If it is possible to create, then we just need to wait for the "YES" before adding it to the game.

I'm also building upon that beginning cutscene, slowly typing out a little story to go with it. EXpect it to be finished by...next Xmas! Lol. Nah, sometime soon. I got a lot of time on my hands, so I should be able to finish it before...Easter. Lol.

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Oh no! Too many "Lol"s. I gotta cut down. Too much talking to...but anyway. Suggestions on how to cut down??? Anyone??? (And so, the inevitable) Lol (pops up once more. Grrr...)!

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Anyway, the cutscene info can be found...here. (http://zelaron.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3516)

[Aurvian]

v_v im sorry ive been maturbating in my cubicle .... lol jking ive been playin sc and its so addictive when you have friends who play it .... But does everyone have AIM. and if they cant get AIM download zango so we can all go in a chatroom at specific times also we have to find out everyones time zones so the times wont get mixed up.....( O i was late cause im three hours behind the others .... I live in japan so i was sleepin im sorry.... ) anyhow we need everyones time zones and we also need to think of a client we can all chat on with real time v_v if noone has AIM we bust out starcraft or some blizzard game we can all meet in a channel and discuss.... zelarons good to but its I can leave when ever I want and enter the same

Like my new sig it took me 30mins to an hour

[Aurvian]

Director - Wed-G
2 Programmers [Tyrannicide C-Words, ?]
2 Graphics Artists [?,?]
1 Animator [Draco2003]
3 Writers [Wed-G, Lenny, ?]
2 Map Designers [Wed-G,?,?]
2 Resource Gatherers [?,?]
5 Beta-testers [?,?,?,?,?]
1 Webdesigner/Webmaster [Tyrannicide C-Words]
1 Character/Backdrop Designer[Aurvian, ?, ?]

A concept artist is a formal way of sayin I create Characters and Backgrounds for video games / movies

[Wed-G]

Well after a long time of not being on, I am back. I have several new updates on the game(Syugen '1,' not 3). I decided we should relive the beautiful fantasy that was this epic saga... of fun... But anyway.

Characters from the first game-

Party members(In order from who you most see; first is main char.):
Jason
Emilia(RTP Name :>)
Harris(?)
Leroness
+ others (You name)

Story-

Jason(suprisingly, Lenny) wakes up on a beach. Wondering about who he is and not knowing who(Thanks Lenny for the amnesia thing *rubs head* oww.) He walks through the tropical forest and comes upon the village of (?)
where he meets Emilia. Yadayada, blahblahblah, mystic quest, save world, your usual RPG. ANY IDEAS ARE HELPFUL, EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE TEAM.

Misc-

Many minigames.

Music especially made for the game(any composers? Anvil Studio is a good midi making program. Find it a RPGWolfpack.com)

Detailed environments* PLUS shadows if we use RMXP. I know where to find it virus-free and you don't have to pay lots 'o' money fo' it. But I can't say where. The blueman is around...o_O

Heart-ripping(oww) stories with tearjerking or hairpulling moments... or both.

And that is all I can think of.

Oh yeah. Tyran, since you are a programmer, will most of the coding be done on your comp, and/or others pc('s)?

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[Lenny]

I've had some more ideas for the beginning cutscene... :D

It is quite like the idea of walking through the rainforest to a village, except there is no rainforest... :confused:

Here it is so far, with the little boat thing...

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After the current...events, the man is found outside the town by the night guards. They bring him in, and for the next week or so he is tended by a woman, who will later join his party etc. The basic storyline is they go travelling through the lands, looking for something or other. Whilst they are travelling, the party (more will be added later) finds an oracle of sorts, or something similar that offers to unlock the mans mind. He refuses. A couple of months or so later, the party run into the national army, who is at the time fighting their neighbours. They find the oracle again. His mind is unlocked blah blah blah, he turns out to be a weapon created for unimaginble destruction etc. You get the point.

When more is written, it will be updated...

[Wed-G]

I've had some more ideas for the beginning cutscene...

Continue to write so you can fuse you ideas with mine, but, over the past few weeks I have been getting my thoughts together with my friend who is our third writer, and we have gotten a lot of shit together.
Including,

-a script (movie form, but should work for a game, too.)
-custom programming (ex. a cinematic where Jason wakes up on the beach and see's Emilia standing above him. I need a talented anime artist to draw some parts for the cutscene. Preferably not draw by hand then scanned, but in computer drawn bmp or png so I can edit colors to atone for the scene. Wed-G <-- Director)
-computer drawn layouts for scene's (320X240 for correctness)
-a dictionary for Mésu-English (Excel or Word Format)
-and more still
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[Lenny]

Okle-Dokel. If you give me the script, then I could probably form a hybrid thingy with the two things. If you get my drift...alternatively you and your friend could do it. Just that I've got lots of time, and nothing to do with it...

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Idea about Emilia. She could be the one nursing him in the town, and then the part of the great wizard magic gets in the cutscene etc.

Just a passing thought...

[Lenny]

I've just noticed this:

Music especially made for the game(any composers? Anvil Studio is a good midi making program. Find it a RPGWolfpack.com)

I'm musical. I could have a shot at this sometime.

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Hey, this program is good.

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Hey, this program is quite fun as well :D .

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Et Voila. My first masterpiece. He he. I call it...Game Over.

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As always, more will be added soon. This is just the first draft of it, I may change it, add some more instruments etc., and maybe change the ending. I don't really know. Let me know what you think of it...

[Wed-G]

I wanted to offer this to Lenny first, so anyone who is interested back off till I get an answer from him.

Would you be interested in writing a story the details the game. If I give you a script would it be easy to do?

I, as a writer, know how hard it is to come up with things, but if you wrote out a story that covers all the main parts of the game you can have the freedom to do write any new things you want. If you could do this, you won't have to write the script. Me and my friend can handle that(although he can't spell worth a shizznizzal.)

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Look! I'm musical, too! It is not complete yet.

Theme song

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[Wed-G]

Some chipsets we will use in the game.

Castle: http://charas-project.net/resources/Chipsets/12354_1102455200.png

Inner+Town: http://charas-project.net/resources/Chipsets/3992_1088389684.png

Idea's?: http://charas-project.net/resources/Chipsets/3992_1088389762.png

Cave: http://charas-project.net/resources/Chipsets/3992_1088389581.png

Castle: http://charas-project.net/resources/Chipsets/3992_1088389640.png

Forest Town: http://charas-project.net/resources/Chipsets/3992_1088389670.png

Mountain: http://charas-project.net/resources/Chipsets/6065_1086284108.PNG

Forest Temple: http://charas-project.net/resources/Chipsets/6065_1086284457.png


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Jason, Emilia, Harris

[Lenny]

I'd be happy to try.

I've got a few ideas already. In fact, more than a few.

And it shouldn't be too hard...though I tend to lean heavily on description...or at least I have done in other things...so you and your friend may be get a little annoyed trying to convert it all back to script form...:p.

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You and I, and anyone else who is musical, bewteen us, we could create a symphony!

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I don't know if it is just my comp, but when I tried to access the chipsets it came up with Forbidden Access.

[Draco2003]

Since I am the animator, can I get some concept art at least so I can start the thing, or at least do the opening? I drew some quick sketches from the charset above, but I need them to be confirmed, or at least approved. I dunno how im gonna get them here, but ill try something. If I don't get any concept/definate images ill just post the sketches and tell me what you think. And one last major thing, since I AM the animator...how are the characters going to look? Manga/Anime style or Batman/Superman comic book style? If it is going to be Batman/Superman, then I can't be the animator, because I only do the anime style thing. Sorry, but that's my style. Also, I need to know the personalities of the characters. The personality defines the look and the motions and body language of the characters. So far what I have is:

Hero: (1st character in charset) usual hero attitude. ready to go against the world full of energy.

Girl: (2nd character in charset) thel shy, loves-the-hero-secretly-yet-obviously personality. I think she is the one that helps the hero in the intro.

Anti-hero Hero: (3rd character is charset) He is the person who looks like a villain, yet has the heart of gold, and always tries to hide under his bad-boy, hate-the-world attitude. He is the one who would progressively get mushy through out the game (start as a hard ass, giving everyone a hard time; by the end of the game, he would be all, "YEAH!! Let's do this, this planet needs to be saved and we're the only people who can do it!"

So, if anyone can give me any more information, that would really help. Thanks!


P.S. WOW this one might actually work.

P.P.S. By the way, I am in California, so at the time of this post it is 6:44 P.M.. My email can be found by clicking my name at the top of the home page (where it says whose logged in)

[Lenny]

Hero: (1st character in charset) usual hero attitude. ready to go against the world full of energy.

Sort of...but not really.

I'm a thinking of him as a character who keeps himself to himself. Full of hidden anger and dark secrets that come out in times of great...danger of sorts...take the scene where he goes psycho on the wolves in my little intro thingy. In the intro I imagine him as a tall figure...bulging muscles type thing...if you get my drift, the stereotypical body builders on the beaches, the tanned ones. I think of him as tall, dark and handsome in a rugged way. Shoulder length black hair...tangled...hardly looked after...I don't really know how else to describe him...maybe not as the 1st chara in the set for the intro...


Girl: (2nd character in charset) the shy, loves-the-hero-secretly-yet-obviously personality. I think she is the one that helps the hero in the intro.

Yep. Caring but when threatened, can turn nasty...

Anti-hero Hero: (3rd character is charset) He is the person who looks like a villain, yet has the heart of gold, and always tries to hide under his bad-boy, hate-the-world attitude. He is the one who would progressively get mushy through out the game (start as a hard ass, giving everyone a hard time; by the end of the game, he would be all, "YEAH!! Let's do this, this planet needs to be saved and we're the only people who can do it!"

Again, yes. Thinks highly of himself...but is made fun of by the hero and literally trodden into the mud beneath the hero's boots...secretly likes the girl, but tries as hard as possible to keep it to himself...and is extremely good at doing so...never or rarely lets his guard down...


When I get time, I will try and write out full descriptions of the characters.

I'm also thinking of having more characters...just a little thought...

Don't take the above as the final word in the matter, as I'm not the one who makes the decisions, and the above are only really ideas...

[Wed-G]

Nice descriptions of the characters everybody!

You practically described each character perfectly.

Harris is the strong bad-ass(sort of like Auron. He actually doesn't like the girl, but good idea.)
Jason is the one with the hidden past(partly because of the amnesia.)
Emilia secretly likes Jason and tries to help him everyway she can. Especially in the intro/scene 1 after Emilia finds Jason she takes him back to her house. In scene 2, soldiers come in the middle of the night showing her a picture of Jason and ask if she had seen him. She says no and they leave. The next day she tells her mother and she throws a fit and wants him out. He has not yet recovered and Emilia trys to reason with her mom. I'll tell more later. I have to go.

[Noob101]

Hey....uh just thinkin' here, if you're gonna have an army in the game, how about the army be called the U.M. (United Militia)? Dunno if you need it or not....but yeah. lol

[Wed-G]

Hey....uh just thinkin' here, if you're gonna have an army in the game, how about the army be called the U.M. (United Militia)? Dunno if you need it or not....but yeah. lol

Like I've said before any input is appreciated. That could be a good name because the soldiers that hunt Jason down, through-out the game, aren't sent from a good guy. And because Jason has amnesia, so do I. I have to write his story while I write the script.

One thing that is a problem for me is I don't have internet access at my house. I have to use my aunts computer to do anything. And to make things worse, my D: drive doesn't work so I can't take any of your things and burn it on a cd. BUT! Not to worry. In two weeks I will have a CD-RW so I can transfer all my current work to a zip file and put it up here. But, I don't know if Zelaron can handle large files until we get a website up. Speaking of which who is supposed to do that. I can't remember who.

Another thing.
I have composed Jason's theme song with two other versions. It's kewl.

Draco, I would like it to be anime style please. RPG's are a Japanese thing, mainly, and I would like to keep it to that style.

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About replay value.
I want the game to be something that you could never get tired of. Maybe because of the story, or how the game plays. Mini-games are another way of increasing the playablility.
Also, with the thought of mini-games, what ideas does anyone have?

I thought about other games where you do simple things, like in Ara Fell(you can find it at GamingW.net) where you catch apples that a girl throws down.
Just simple things like that would be interesting.

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Game Name!

Well after a breif consultment with the other writer of the game, Justin, who I will introduce to Zelaron later, I have decided to name the game(based on the language made for the game) Tales of Enilurâlor. At least I think that is how it is spelled. Again, like I said before I am not at my house to check how to spell it.

One problem with the RM2K3 font is that it doesn't include letters like é è ê ë
and others. Those are very important letters in Mésu, which is pronounced May-su because of the acute of the E. This give it a distinct pronounciation so it will not be said mee-suu. Which is a whole other word.

The word Enilurâlor really two words in english, meaning gods something. Again, again, like I said before I am not at my house to check what it means.

Oh well, I'll go home and write more now. Mésu was originally developed for a book which got all the way to chapter three, but was cancelled because I got bored of it. Lenny, I might send it to you just so you can read it. It, in my opinion is really good.

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One question to everyone on our team.

Will you stay on throughout the production of this project, and will you stay true to what you say you will do. So far everyone we have is a very vital person to the team. And without all of you BladeStar Productions isn't worth anything. Games like the Legion Saga series was made by one person. If one person could do so well... why can't a group do better?

[Lenny]

I have to write his story while I write the script.

I don't know if it helps, but I've kinda already got Jason's story planned out in my head...

Also about the army...one of the little scenes I've got playing in my head is Jason's mind being "awoken". He is taken by an oracle guy, they (the little quest group) meet earlier on, who is with the army fighting etc. Anywho, he takes Jason to his tent, and awakes his mind, which triggersoff Jason's "war machine" ability, causing him to wipe out the whole army camped there...the magic spreads over a 5 or so mile radius, nearly killing the rest of the hroup, who only escape it by goign underwater...anywho, I associate this scene with the end of the game, and the last thing is that the group goes back and finds Jason in a very very big crater left by his destrcutive magic, and they have to fight him, and maybe, I don't have a clue if it will be allowed or not, end up killing him...and the game ending in a cutscene where Jason finds control of his powers etc, and comes to his senses long enough for a tearjerking scene with Emilia crying over him, before finally dieing...

I've just noticed, I type too much...

[Wed-G]

I don't know if it helps, but I've kinda already got Jason's story planned out in my head...

I like the way you wrote his story out already. I will take it and fuse it with mine soon as I start writing 'mo.

About writing, we have a new writer, instead of my friend. She is my cousin and she enjoys writing about blood and other killing activities... scary.

I signed her up and she should be on zelaron soon.

[Creep_girl94]

I signed her up and she should be on zelaron soon.

Um, I just got signed up and from what I hear I'm the third writer.

We (as in Wed-G and I) will take Lenny's approach to describe the main character. We want to make him as heroically evil as possible. We want him to be able to become the strongest character(in the end) possible.

[Lenny]

...and she enjoys writing about blood and other killing activities... scary.

Nothing wrong with that...now gory scenes can feature...no??

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Heroically evil...that's good...there's more leeway on his actions now...heroic actions...yet with evil consequences...this should be fun!

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I've been writing some more...once I've got my computer up and running again, I'll upload what I've written so far...and hope that it fits in with your script...

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Also, Jason's story...I'll type that up for you as well...see what you can salvage from it...and add it in to your story...

[Aurvian]

Ive reviewed what you guys have said over the past days about the story creation and. You guys shouldnt apply your ideas to the story until you have enough ideas to potray the story effective enough. I'll start on some battlesets, cutscenes pics and stuff soon, since ive seen what the characters will look like i might change the colors of the clothes though.
v_v

Ideas So Far:
^_^ he is tended by a woman, who will later join his party
^_^ the man is found outside the town by the night guards. They bring
him in
^_^ Jason(suprisingly, Lenny) wakes up on a beach.
^_^ He walks through the tropical forest and comes upon the village of (?)
where he meets Emilia.
^_^ mystic quest, save world, your usual RPG
^_^ Many minigames
Character names and Profies
Jason
Jason is the one with the hidden past(partly because of the amnesia.)
Emilia(RTP Name :>)
Emilia secretly likes Jason and tries to help him everyway she can. Especially in the intro/scene 1 after Emilia finds Jason she takes him back to her house. In scene 2, soldiers come in the middle of the night showing her a picture of Jason and ask if she had seen him. She says no and they leave. The next day she tells her mother and she throws a fit and wants him out. He has not yet recovered and Emilia trys to reason with her mom. I'll tell more later. I have to go.
Since Harris doesnt like Emilia it would spice up the story if she liked him
Harris(?)
Harris is the strong bad-ass(sort of like Auron. He actually doesn't like the girl, but good idea.)
Leroness
+ others (You name) (We should only have four heroes)
(New Hero)
(If its male)
Owes Jason his life but hes a pure asshole and it shows
(If Its female)
Is a secret lover of the master villians right hand man. We know what her plans are no explination...
Story So far:
Jason wakes up on a beach with amnesia. After the beach he arrives at a town ( Kato?] ......( dont know what happens here)...... he is found on a street by Emilia's lil brother who is a town gaurd. He takes him to their house and she tends him till hes better. During this time she falls inlove with him. ....(future dont know) (how they meet Harris and new player is unknown)

[Aurvian]

Ive been thinkin about the story and I think that should happen after awhile like
(Jason is fighting in a battle for a seperate country then where his adventure will take place. )
After the battle the soldiers go back to the town and Jason goes home and goes strait to sleep. When he wakes up the next one he imediately gets an assignment. He has to go on a ship and sail to another town, to take them from the sea while some others will take them from the ground. While on sea a few days pass and he runs into an ambush. (Me and the animator show a cut scene where jason goes to help out and then it goes blank or somethin and he wakes up on beach) WHile on the beach he doesnt remeber any of the past events. He gets into a battle and then the monsters take somethin of his runs into the woods. from the woods he follows and then he gets jacked of most of his valuables that wasnt wiped away at sea, and is nearly killed. They leave him there and he is found the next day by Leone... Emalias lil brother. Leone takes him to his house and clothes him and his sister tends to his wounds. He wakes up and tries to move but emalia tells him he is wounded and tells him everything she knows between the time her brother found her and the time he has been there. A day passes and then the town is attacked , this is when he find out that the country is is being invaded by an evil guy with an army and a hunger for power. He is still wounded but he still goes out to fight for them Emilia tries to stop him but comes with him because she knows he wont listen. After the town is nearly half destroy but defended they return to emelias and go to sleep. THey wake up the next mourning and Emilia realizes her brother never came home. They go out to find him but hes already dead when they find him..

[Draco2003]

Wow, so many changes to the story, I kinda don't wanna throw in anymore ideas.

Okay I will:

He is apart of another army, but feels that the (highest ranking officer) is just attacking villages because it makes him feel powerful. He discovers this to be true, and tries to tell the rest of his squad/platoon. They, very loyal soldiers, think he (the main character) is trying to take over the army. The hero and a few friends decide to leave, but the general dude tries to kill them. There are 6 escapees, ony 4 make it to the ship, which they steal from the lower, weaker soldiers cleaning it. They leave the island/continent/city and just sail in whichever way the wind blows. After a few weeks, they get caught in a massive hurricane/typhoon storm and one of the escapees falls over board and drowns. The last three manage to survive the storm, but, encounter a large sea creature. The creature is defeated, with no casualties, but as it goes under, its undertow is too strong for the ship. The last thing the player sees is the ship go under, and the screen fades to black. When the hero awakens on the beach, he realizes he has massive gashes, and a piece of wood sticking out of his side. he can't find his fellow soldiers, so he decides to head inland. He gets to the outskirts of the city, and faints.

Then the Soldiers are searching for a criminal that has just broken out of prison, and they search pretty far. The criminal sees your body, and takes your clothes, weapons, armor, items and gold. He scampers away, and about 10 minutes later, the guards come across your stripped body, and see you are greatly injured. The girl's brother, a very caring soul even though he is a soldier, decides to take you in, regardless of your background. You are taken to his house, where the city healer has you under a restraint spell, and the soldiers pull the wood out of you. You wake up screaming, and try to get out of bed, but you are still too weak, and you fall over and slowly lose consiousness. The city healer heals you and puts bandages with a special ointment to cure the scars. After many days (about 8-14) you awaken, and meet your caretaker, the soldier's sister. The hero just stares at her, and then closes his eyes again. Then another week or so passes and you wake up, and don't remember who you are, actually you don't remember anything before now. The village takes you in, and you become a normal townsfolk person. 4 months pass, and you hear shouting outside your house. You go outside to see what happened, and you see a familiar emblem on a heavily-armored soldier, picking on a friend of yours. But, you aren't angry at the fact your friend is getting pushed around, your a enraged at the emblem, and you don't even know why. You grab the nearest sword and attack full force. (Insert battle). After the battle ends, your character continues to slash and stab and cut up the soldier. Your caretaker stops you, and, since you are covered in blood, she takes you to get cleaned up. There, she tells you of how her brother came across your body, and everything else they know about. You tell her you don't remember anything, but the emblem on that soldiers armor made you go berserk. After the bath, she takes you on a stroll of the beach, and you come across one of your fellow escapees. He is dead, but the armor is made from a very durable mineral, so you take it, even though it is very beat up. This information seems to be easy for you to notice, but your caretaker explains she has never seen the mineral, or armor design anywhere before.

Characters
Hero: Jason
Caretaker: Emilia
Caretaker's brother: Leone

I know one escapee wasn't accounted for, but that's because he was found and taken back to the place where you escaped from. He is the one that the new hero(female) would have the crush on. Although, this is just a thought, and no one cares about the animator, so just read and enjoy. :D

[Draco2003]

STOP THE PRESSES!!! URGENT DISCOVERY!!!! WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS RIGHT NOW!!! Okay, not really, but at least I got your attention. What about the Box Art and Instruction Booklet layout? (for mass production purposes). We at least need a picture to represent our game on the innternet, not a screen shot. That would be so pimp. And I have noticed, that no one has given any alterations to my story, or said anything so I take it everyone agrees on the intro? Sorry it was long, just got carried away.

Flash Forward to Mid-Story:
Jason, Emilia, and (temporary party member) are searching the continent for scrolls/parchment/stone tablets or some other special artifact, when they come across your lost shipmate. He, unlike you, remembers everything (a little differently, because of the brain washing) and tries to kill you. Your party fights back (obviously) and starts to win. (shipmate) is amazed at your strength, and flees. Your team decides to chase him, and your temporary party member is the first to find him. (at this point game play changes to that of the temp. member) You fight against (shipmate) and lose. He kills you in a very evil and gory way, and leaves your body parts spread out across the floor. He laughs and flees again. (control goes back to your party) Then Jason and Emilia come across his mangled body, and you don't know what it is. Jason realizes it and jumps back, and starts to gag. Emilia, still in the dark about the object, looks at it. She leans over to get a closer look and sees your partners face in a pool of blood. She immediately jumps back and screams so loud (birds eye view of location, birds fly from trees) She can't stand up, but inches away, still shocked at the sight.

Characters:
original heros=Jason, Emilia
Shipmate=(he needs a name)
Temporary Teammate=(needs a name)

I am terrible at coming up with names. Hope you enjoy! PEACE! :killgrin:

[Wed-G]

I like everyones story's. Now I have to print them off and go recreate them in script format. They are better.

I composed two songs for the game, but they aren't with me so...
One is Jason's theme (3 versions of it)
and the othe is the title screen music. WHOOHOO!

[Draco2003]

Okay, I know everyone is having fun designing/redesigning the script but we need other stuff done too. Sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but I just think we need to get things done now, and we could get it done fast. We could have this game completed by the end of this year. Here are some things we gotta work on...

1.) Battle System--Is it going to be RTP or CBS?

2.) Menu System--RTP or CMS? Idea for CMS. It could be like a book, and when the player presses the menu button, it would open to the first page, with all the menu items there. Then when they choose one, it turns the page to show the screen. Then when the player goes back, it shows the pages flip back down.

3.) Battle Animations (Characters)--We need a different animation for everything. Each hero has to have a different animation for every action and status ailment.

4.) Battle Animations (Magics)--We need someone to do custom graphics for the magics, and someone who can piece them together to form original Magics. Then when they get about 100 done, they can post it like a tutorial type thing and the rest of the development team can see it. Then, they can make another 100 or so and post that one, so we could see those.

5.) Names--We need original names for everything, from items to magics to characters. I don't know about you guys, but, 10-15 years from now, I want kids to be saying, "I use a Rejuvial Tonic and Cureon!" instead of Pheonix down and Potions. Magics need to have original names, even if you have to mix pieces of names to get one, it has to be original though. I am pretty sure with the diverse staff we have, we could tell if it is an original name or not.

6.) Web Designer--The web designer can start on the site now in whatever program he uses, but don't pay for the domain name yet. Wait until we are about 80-95% done with the game, then launch the site. Post some screenies and short 30 second videos maybe to get people interested. Then after about a month post some more stuff. When we get done with the game, then he could post a release date (release about 3 months after we get it finished). Hopefully there will be very few bugs in it, if any. Then just post just enough information to get people interested, yet not too much, that when it comes out, they feel they have already beaten the game.

GOAL
We want people to be in pain waiting for this game. The way current developers made us wait for games like Halo 2 and Metroid Prime (just a couple great titles that I was dying to play). Then when it comes out, it will be the most popular title for net distribution. The only thing I see wrong with posting the game on a website is the incredible amount of data it would take with the cinematics. We could email it to them, if they send us like $7.95 or something. Just kidding about the price. I feel this game could be as big as some of the most popular games out there. We can do this, we just need a plan to follow.

[Wed-G]

Man we go through team members fast...

Crazywhatever is no longer a writer.

The old guy is. Savagebob. Great game maker with bad spelling.

I agree with Draco, but the game is still pre-alpha. I began putting what I have on script, into game form. But, I don't know what the characters look like so I can't make them...

Aurvian, I have something for you to do.

I need character sketches for these characters.

Jason(use what I made earlier)
Emilia(use what I made earlier)
Harris(use what I made earlier)
Leroness(No longer a tiger woman. Tall, redish hair, spear, ripped clothing.)
Famas(Female, lightgreen hair, casual clothing, busty but not too big.)

and thats all for now.

[savagebob]

Hey my first act to a real cause, Im so excited, YIPPEEE!.................................
Anyways I havent seen the charecters up close so I could be speeking out my ass right now, but I picture harris as the skinny yet fit type that could kick you ass and nobody could 'a' thunk it, kinda like hero from gundam wing. I meant to spell think like thunk, damn wed-g. Oh and I aslo think that we should have a character that everyone loves and ends up dying at the end, if anymore characters can be accepted.

P.S. Its true my spelling does suck so please ignore all spelling mistakes through my time with you friggon wonderful poeple.

[Lenny]

I was a thinking Jason dies at the end.................


Also about the army...one of the little scenes I've got playing in my head is Jason's mind being "awoken". He is taken by an oracle guy, they (the little quest group) meet earlier on, who is with the army fighting etc. Anywho, he takes Jason to his tent, and awakes his mind, which triggersoff Jason's "war machine" ability, causing him to wipe out the whole army camped there...the magic spreads over a 5 or so mile radius, nearly killing the rest of the hroup, who only escape it by goign underwater...anywho, I associate this scene with the end of the game, and the last thing is that the group goes back and finds Jason in a very very big crater left by his destrcutive magic, and they have to fight him, and maybe, I don't have a clue if it will be allowed or not, end up killing him...and the game ending in a cutscene where Jason finds control of his powers etc, and comes to his senses long enough for a tearjerking scene with Emilia crying over him, before finally dieing...

But then again...if we are thinking of making a sequel, that could be hard to do unless someone dabbles in Necromantic arts at the start of the sequel, bringin Jason back and binding him to their will..........and then the game could be played out that they (Hero team from first game minus Jason) try and get Jason back, in the end succeeding and managing to once more send his soul to the underworld...

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I just noticed how many typo's there are in my quote.........someone should've said something...............

[Wed-G]

NO!! Damn you Savagebob!

I will say this once and only once... damn spelling errors from Savagebob(speeking???) anyway, NO MAIN CHARACTER THAT IS USEFUL DIES! I'm am so sick of these pansy-ass RPG's that kill off the main character. (Not to ruin anyones gaming experience, but FFX, FF7, Chono Trigger.) Effin 'a.

Anyways...

Yeah...

[Lenny]

Really really? Not even for a tearjerking scene at the end???

I quite like the idea.

But if the bossfella says no, then the bossfella says no........

[savagebob]

Just for reference I typed that idea before I told you (wed-g), so Im not trying to turn your team against you. Anyways, on to business. I think that we should leave as much of the main characters past as blank as possible. And then it says something at the end that describes his dark and mysterios past. Like Zidane learns he is a genome in ff 9. My main goal is to leave the player completely speechless throghout the credits.

P.S. (I was listening to Metallica while typing this, just a bit of useless information) :cut:

[Wed-G]

I wasn't trying to ruin this games by canceling you ideas out, but movies and games alike kill off main characters too much.

Bad news for you guys, especially Lenny. I hate to say this but there is a 30% chance that I might leave the team. I would put Lenny in charge of directing and writing the script, but everything just got more complicated. Me, being the director, one of the programmers, graphics designer and writer makes it very complicated when I don't have my own internet access. It will cost me $40+ just to get a CD burner + CD's.

Plus me and Savagebob(Justin) are in a band. Band practice, schoolwork, laziness... sigh. I'll probably stay with the team and do... work...

[Draco2003]

It looks like this game is going down the toilet "faster than an unwanted pregnancy on Prom night!"

(Quote from the great Dr. Venture)

[Lenny]

If you say that's gonna happen before it happens, then why even start doing anything??????

Little fact about toilets, when you flush one (a toilet) it spews malicious bacteria and the like 6 feet up into the air.

[savagebob]

Ok, I talk to wed-g every day I seriosly dought he's quiting the team.
I am posting a character I drew for the game. I figured he could be a bad guy at first, then slowly becomes good. I am also going to draw him with his robe off. I know it doesnt look very good, but I have never drawn a person with a robe on, it basically captures the general direction of what I want him to look like. He has words or word written around his hood from the languag for the game. I just made letters up since I dont know what the writen portion of the lanuage looks like. He is about to throw off his jakit but sice I cant draw hands I guess I just tell you. His sword is what is coming out of his back.

:Postal: :cyborg:

[Wed-G]

Savagebob is probably right, I won't quit. I will upload the script when I get a chance. Yo!

Edit: I read the thread where bluecube told savagebob and closed the thread. I know you didn't close it because of that, but you won't close ours will you? I still check it every 'once in a while'

[BlueCube]

Right, but I don't think this will lay dormant/finished for weeks like the others - this seems to get at least a post a day (though there have been a couple of instances where there was no post for that day. A 2-day-old bump isn't the same as a week-old bump though, especially around here, heh.)

[Wed-G]

Come to think of it, I don't plan on leaving the team. It's too much fun. Me and Savagebob had a long discussion about the game and decided a few key things.

1.) Music. It has to have a good soundtrack. I like the Irish/Celtic stuff, but Savagebob doesn't. But I'm the bossafella'.

2.) Almost all of our characters will be designed by us, mainly using Charas-project.net's character generator. And with the help of Aurvian.

3.) I want to make it as original as possible. I liked the idea of making him and experimental weapon, but Dragon sumthing: Running water did that already. We need to think of something else like that. Sorta raise the bar, if you will(God, my art teacher is getting to me 'if you will').

4.) I should have enough to buy a CD burner soon.

5.) I started production on the game. I should have a demo soon.(2/3 weeks maybe?) I need ideas for mini-games.

[Lenny]

How does the Irish/Celtic music go???

[Wed-G]

How does the Irish/Celtic music go???

Have you played Lysander's The book of Three? He adapted it from a novel by some guy. All the music in it is Irish/Dutch/or Celtic. It is a good game. Good programming.

New Characters--Sier, Unknown, Fazier

Which means, Aurvian, I need facesets. All the Chars I have made, one face graphic please. Color it with photoshop if you want.

[Draco2003]

If no one has any objections I could draw the 3 main characters so far. Or the characters from my story or whatever story we chose that was posted here. By the way, we gotta have the title written with the BlackAdder ITC font. It is a little small, but it looks pimp.

As for mini games, I have no clue. We couldn't possibly do anything original, because its all been done before. Unless we do one that involves the entire continent/planet that the hero inhabits (final task/minigame) like finding some keys or pieces to something. ORIGINAL IDEA ALERT!!! The hero could move boxes to get across a platform or make a picture. Or he could need to flip switches in a certain order. I'm so original :D........

[Wed-G]

Unless we do one that involves the entire continent/planet that the hero inhabits (final task/minigame) like finding some keys or pieces to something.

I didn't want to tell you guys at first but, the player roams 5 islands before he gets to the world map. So there is a lot of space for extras.

[Draco2003]

Are the islands close to each other/small in comparison to the main world?? If so, that's cool. Or are the 5 islands the entire world? If that's the fact, then would you go to each island seprately? Like say you start off on kakariko island, then you beat the boss there, then you head to the continent of Hyrule? then afterwords, you need to go to each island again to get something so then you get to use an airship/blimp/plane to travel.

NOTE: Island names are taken from Zelda games. They are not originals. Just needed to clarify this. Some people would think I made them up, or call me a thief, and I don't feel like smackin' anyone down today. :D

[Wed-G]

The islands are not part of the main world. In fact, there really is no world map so to speak. Think about this: it isn’t a traditional world map. There is a large, and I mean large area between towns. But, after the towns are completed I or Savagebob have to go back and recreate the towns to be like 128x128 pixels. And they have to be animated. So, the world map is basically really a large area connecting the towns. To keep the lag down to a minimum I might put the world and the islands on a different map.

Edit: There is a world, as in a large chunk of world.

[Noob101]

...perhaps you could give us a sketch to show what you mean

[Wed-G]

...perhaps you could give us a sketch to show what you mean

Well, its not that hard to imagine. A world map X however big and more detailed. That is basically it.

Bad news. The money that I was saving for a new CD-Burner was just used to by wood for woodshop. BUT! That doesn't halt production at all. Still working on it.

Aurvian, if you are still with us, I need a character sketch of a evil villianous type of guy. Red cloak, gray hair, the works.

[Wed-G]

Do I still have a team, or is this just a slow week?

If not, post your resignation! I can still make this work, but it will take longer!
I NEED NOT A TEAM! WAIT! I do to?! Or do I? Yes! And no! AHHHHH!!!!!!

Please stay with the team!

[Lenny]

I'd say it's just a slow week.

[Aurvian]

O yea for the writers....some of the games concepts are starting to sound like suikoden 4 just a few things sounds like its tooken from that game... next I have face sets of 3 characters im still tryin to judge how Harris hair should look in a faceset way compared to what you have given me...Also I will have a sketch of the characters them selves sometime by next week cause of I have a few drawing classes so... you know with homework and shit and in college it aint no mere over night...

[Lenny]

O yea for the writers....some of the games concepts are starting to sound like suikoden 4 just a few things sounds like its tooken from that game...

Don't blame me...I'd honestly never heard of Suikoden before this development team was set up... :p

[Aurvian]

Don't blame me...I'd honestly never heard of Suikoden before this development team was set up... :p
the suikoden saga only appear for playstation for you who dont play platformers / playstation ... when I get home ill upload the pics

[Tyrannicide]

Yea, but I have absolutely nothing to do for the team at the moment.

I wish there was something I could do, but I can't create characters on the computer like the other guys. I can draw ok, so if you want like weapon designs, I could do that and name them. Just give me the go and tell me what style of names you would like.

[Aurvian]

Yea, but I have absolutely nothing to do for the team at the moment.
If you want you can help me design scenes, characters, and backdrops.
O yea draco before I do any scenes we need to know what the basic cutscenes movies will be, and we need to be familiar with the story...
Also for the writers Imma need to talk to you guys to about the characters ... I need to know their personality to show that ...

[Tyrannicide]

Like draw them on paper, scan them and send them to you so you can create them for the game?

If that is it, than yes for sure. Just let me know what type of scene and style, etc and I will get to work. New semester starting in school, so I don't have to worry about tons of work.

I am gonna be busy this weekend due to a tourny in a city, but I will do my best.
Once we get the first demo released, I will start work on a website too.

[Lenny]

From what I can gather...it's gonna be a looooong time before a demo is released...it may be best to start work on the site now...I always find lots of problems when creating new sites...and they take ages to iron out...but that's me... :p

[Tyrannicide]

Should I make the layout be images (like the site in my sig) or normal coding like www26.brinkster.com/arkmune/canhis/home.asp (i made this for school)?

And if its an image site, I can use screens from the game or drawings of characters,etc and color them and use them for the background.

For some reason this forum doesn't like NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo

[Lenny]

I believe it's up to you...you're the webdesigner...so...btw, none of the links work for me...

[Tyrannicide]

Fixed the links, c j b. n e t=unliked by forum i guess.

[Lenny]

I can see them!! YAY!

I quite like the the Depressionly Canadian one...the owa forums is good as well...I like the way there is a different pic for each FF game on the last site as well...

:grin:

[Wed-G]

I agree with Lenny on some the demo. It will be awhile. I ran into a snag with the Day>Night system. The one I had worked perfectly, but, like all good things, it is flawed. When you go inside, the houses are lit like outside. And there is no way that I know of to make it not rain inside without using alot of fork options. I know how to fix the lighting engine. I just don't want to.

*Summon Bluecube*

[Lenny]

For the rain, is it not possible to make a common event for it...and just have switches etc???

I don't know if you follow me there...I assume lots of things...most things I think everyone knows what I'm on about...but they don't...anywho...as i was saying...common event...

The common event has lots of branches...if whatever...and the switches turn on/off when you go inside...then on/off when you go outside starting the rain again...but then there are the lots of forks you just talked of...my bad...ignore me...

[BlueCube]

I agree with Lenny on some the demo. It will be awhile. I ran into a snag with the Day>Night system. The one I had worked perfectly, but, like all good things, it is flawed. When you go inside, the houses are lit like outside. And there is no way that I know of to make it not rain inside without using alot of fork options. I know how to fix the lighting engine. I just don't want to.

*Summon Bluecube*

BLUECUBE SUMMONED

I know how to fix the lighting engine.

...As for the rain issue then, that's easy - I'm assuming the rain is controlled via a switch at some point, correct? (Even if it's not directly CONTROLLED by the switch, one could be set at that time, as a marker that it is, in fact, raining)

If that's the case, just have all weather stop when going inside any house (don't even have to have a branch going in - just set the weather to do nothing). Going out, just have one branch that sets the weather to rain (based on the [xxxx:HEY GUYS IT'S RAINING] switch). Nothing special there.

Of course, this is assuming you don't have a common event running in the background that tells it to rain every few milliseconds. I'll hope that you didn't make THAT kind of mistake..

[Lenny]

I'll hope that you didn't make THAT kind of mistake...

You say that as if you know he has done...

It's what I would do...:p

[Aurvian]

If I dont show you the pics tomorrow then they wont be up for till this weekend ... nothin should come up this weekend..

[Lenny]

WAHEY!!! The weekend us upon us, and I have a wek ahead of me with absolutely nothing to do...I think I'll write more of the story...

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I've decided to name my little stroy: Power Unimaginable.

Though I'm gonna try and change unimaginable to something different...

Just to let you know so that if you see an attachment called Power Unimaginable you know what it is...

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EDIT: I've settled on Power Inconceivable for the mo...though it's liable to change...

[Aurvian]

Phone getting cut off all the time is pissing me off ill use my jumpdrive sometime this week and upload the pictures >.< in school
for the main characters ive changed the looks jason still has a bandanna on ... also i need some special skills / magic / etc and how its gonna look when they perform it...

[Lenny]

I can't remember saying that...I don't even have anything to do with pictures...

I get two little magic thingys...the first is the one in the intro where Jason goes "evil magician" on the wolves asses...with all the red light etc:

Turning round to face the remaining wolves, his eyes glinted with evil power.
The wolves shrank back. Their cockiness gone as they faced him. No longer the person they had been chasing. Now, a madman.
He stretched his arms out to his sides, bringing them level with his shoulders. Slowly, he moved them upwards, above his head, until they touched. He clasped them together and started to mutter to himself. Around him, a red light began to form. Starting at his clasped hands, moving down until he was completely surrounded by it. His smile growing into a bloodthirsty grin, he took a step towards the wolves. Once more they shrank back.
He brought his arms down, as if trying to throw away his hands. He brought them down with such force, he nearly fell forward onto the sodden ground. The red light sprang away from him, splitting as it flew towards the wolves, who, to now avail, were now running away. The strands of red light coiled themselves around wolves legs bringing them to the ground before creeping through their fur, flowing up unwilling nostrils and into unwilling mouths. Each wolf twitched as the red light disappeared inside them.
They lay there for only a minute, twitching occasionally, the seconds dragging past like hours. The man stood like a statue. Arms held in front of him, never moving. Suddenly, he swung his arms out to his sides, once more bringing them level with his shoulders.
The wolves started to twitch uncontrollably. Eyes jumping about in sockets, tongues flapping as if caught in a strong wind.
Slowly, the arms drifted down to hang at the mans sides. His lips moved, uttering a single word.
As one, the wolves exploded in a red mist. Nothing was left of them, but for the red mist drifting towards the man. As it touched him, it changed form. From red mist, to red liquid. The colour of the second moon. Blood. The man’s eyes flashed red, once, twice, three times. The blood covering his body began to disappear. Through the pores of his body it was sucked, leaving nothing but tanned skin, covered in healing wounds, and a bloody rag around the mans waist and thighs. For one last time, his eyes flashed red, before returning to their normal state.
As he slouched off, twelve milky shadows erupted from the ground where the stricken wolves had lain. Their spirits were free from the bodies, but not to return to their beginnings, but to follow their captor, and, ironically, the one who had freed them.

Another is a little idea I got, that I don't know if it will be allowed...

Jason is taken off towards the end of the game by a weird guy...someone with immense healing powers etc. (meet him early on in the game)...to the camp of the UM. Here, he is taken to the healing guys tent...and his mind is unlocked, allowing all his powers to come back to him...but Jason's purpose takes over (he was created in a lab on a different continent as a war machine --- think like Wolverine. He had a little safety system built into him, that if he was attacked, or probed with magic etc...then he attacks), and he killa everything withing a 3 mile radius...this time it is a great ball of black light...

If the idea is allowed, I'll descirbe it later on...

[Draco2003]

Sorry Aurvian, not trying to take your job, just thought this was a pretty good pic. Maybe he could be a party member or bad guy that is contemplating his life...

[Original Sin]

That's pretty good. Heh looks like your webmaster is banned, need a new one? I can help with designing weaponry and such, just tell me and give details.

[Lenny]

I got an idea for that guy...

The leader (don't know the proper military term) of the United Militia. Young, strong, feels he has to prove himself...

What were your thoughts when you were drawing him Draco?

[Draco2003]

Actually, I wasn't thinking much. Just, that he was thinking that maybe what he has been doing all his life was for nothing. With everything he went through, he has nothing to show for it. Maybe he could be a bad guy, then not really turn good, but kinda just stops being bad. I dunno, but there is an idea.

[Wed-G]

Wow. I leave for a week and you guys go and do almost a months worth of work. Well... a months work to me.

Don't worry. The Grandmaster project leader is still with you. I am still working, though, I have a lot of extra's to deal with. Especially tonite. I am preforming with my friends at a youth group tonight.

[Draco2003]

Wow. I leave for a week and you guys go and do almost a months worth of work. Well... a months work to me.

:grin: Isn't it grand having a group of folks.

By the way, I am going to color that guy and maybe, if I like the way he turns out, I will post it. I am going to work on different poses for him. So yeah. I can't draw for beans though :p :D

[Lenny]

With everything he went through, he has nothing to show for it.

That ties in quite nicely with my thoughts about him wanting to prove himself...what does Wed think??

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That was really only a week??? Man...I need a new internal clock...I'm screwed big style if that was only a week...

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You can draw a damn site better than I can...the extent of my drawing skills stops at stick men in crazy little doodles...:p

[Lenny]

I've had another idea for the guy you drew.

There's a guy Jason beats in the town who joins the party...I can't remember his name...that guy could be him...

Anti-hero Hero: (3rd character is charset) He is the person who looks like a villain, yet has the heart of gold, and always tries to hide under his bad-boy, hate-the-world attitude. He is the one who would progressively get mushy through out the game (start as a hard ass, giving everyone a hard time; by the end of the game, he would be all, "YEAH!! Let's do this, this planet needs to be saved and we're the only people who can do it!"

Again, yes. Thinks highly of himself...but is made fun of by the hero and literally trodden into the mud beneath the hero's boots...secretly likes the girl, but tries as hard as possible to keep it to himself...and is extremely good at doing so...never or rarely lets his guard down...

[Lenny]

What's the title of this called???

I can't remember whether we settled on a title or not...memories goin' you see...:p

I've called the little thig I'm writing "The Power Pernicious"...if that helps...

Though I keep on changing it...so...

[Draco2003]

All I know is that names are not my strong suit. I think the only good name I have ever come up with is Darmenos. Other than that, KAPOOTSKI! Oh well. Good thing I ain't the name-maker-upper-dude. LOL. Anyways, I am almost finished with his battle-beaten pic. He is really beat up, but has a quite evil look. Scary. Probably post it in my next post.

[Lenny]

I think you should maybe hire someone just for the names...:p...no???

I've typed up the little scene where the hero and the girl meet the guy you drew...they meet him on the outskirts of the town; the hero is pulling the girl along behind him trying to get away from the town quickly - don't know why yet - and so the come to a crossroads. They don't know which way to go, so the hero just pulls her down one road...a bit further down the road they take is a big rock, the guy you drew is sat on the side that the hero can't see so he doesn't notice him as he rushes past. The guy on the rock sees the hero pulling along a girl, thinks he's doing it against her will, so shouts at him "What are you doing?" etc etc. Big fight follows, guy beaten literally trodden in mud. After some thought follows them, wanting to join team. Few days later he finds them in a clearing and presents his service to them.

I'll upload it later, when my floppy disc drive begins to work again...:p...thing is, I've written a lot before it, amd a bit after it, so I'm afraid you're gonna have to scan through it..

Also, I've made up my own colours of the guys clothing etc. for the moment...I'll change 'em when I see the colour version...

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My bad about the name, just found where we decided the name:

Tales of Enilurâlor

First page of this thread...

[Wed-G]

I have have a name for it. I'll type it this afternoon.

[Lenny]

So it isn't Tales of Eniluralor?

[Draco2003]

I have a HUGE plot twist. The girl that the main character likes is using him to get revenge on the main bad guy. SHE'S A USER!!!

Anyways, here is my dude all beaten up after a battle. He is missing a leg because I didn't feel like drawing it. I actually finished it about 20-30 mins after my previous post. I might draw some poses for him so you could do a sprite (rear, side, front views).

[Wed-G]

It is Tales of Eniluralor. with the dots over the o.

After a few weeks of development, I should have a demo! I just need a jump drive. Graphically, I used Mac and Blue chipsets. (KOE) and musically I think I have a good selection.

After I get chapter one together, you guys can take over. I'll do the coding so I can director all over it and shape it to our greatest advantage.

Wed-G<<<<Not Modest

[Lenny]

Sounds like fun...

Is this gonna be a proper demo of game thingy...or a trailer of what we can expect etc???

[Wed-G]

The demo will be only for us to use, not a full scale demo. but the thing is, the demo is more than a mb so I am not sure if I can upload it. Zelaron might not let me. unsure on the sites policy.

as for the trailer, it is what is to be expected. it has 'beautiful' graphics unlike the pre-beta demo. I have to go back and either make new ones or edit current ones to my liking.

still need to buy a jump drive.

[Draco2003]

Nevermind It won't show as an attachment


BlueCube Edit:
http://zelaron.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3624&stc=1

EDIT:Thanks, Blue.
Anyways, here is a prototype icon if we could change the game icon to something different. I beleive we are Bladestar Productions, correct? HOO HAA my job is done. Can't wait to play the game. Good luck guys. :D just kidding.

[Lenny]

Whazzat???

[BlueCube]

The filename is "Bladestar Icon.bmp" so I'll assume it's.. the icon for Bladestar. If that's not the case, then I have no idea.

Edit: Wed-G, this thread is getting a bit long, heh. If you want, create a new thread with all the info you have so far in the first post, all nice and organized. I'll lock this one if you do so. That'll make this a bit easier to read for your team members, and it'll help you put everything together.

[Lenny]

Ah, so that's what it is.

I quite like this thread. It has all the random things we need. Many a time have I looked back at something that I'd forgotten...

Maybe if it could be condensed...say a summary of all the key points...I don't know...

[Wed-G]

Yeh, I guess we will make another. But if so, does this one get deleted?

And if so, could you(bluecube) do me a favor?

I don't have the time right now to compile every idea we have and I won't be on for a few days, so could you just grab the important stuff like the short stories to a word document and who wrote it and add it as an attachment first on the new thread, titled "BladeStar Pro. presents Tales of Eniluralör"?

or someone else, you know... :)

[BlueCube]

Tyrannicide contacted me and wanted me to mention that he still wants to help with the game, such as with the website/sketches/etc. You can contact him at:

http://img211.exs.cx/img211/3853/tyrannicide3pk.png (http://www.imageshack.us)

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As to combining all the info - if you're really lazy we can always just start a new thread with a link back to this one, and you can always put any relevant info in the first post. A general storyline so far, for example - the discussion would still be contained in this thread, but you'd have a basic outline in the new thread. You should have a basic outline anyway, it'll make it much easier in the long run. Maybe a status report on the game, etc. Whatever you think is worth posting, go for it.

[Lenny]

DOn't forget there is always the original thread as well as this one...

[Draco2003]

Here is a summary of what all was discussed so far: (you get a small feeling of nostalgia from rereading from the beginning)

1.)Director - Wed-G
--->2 Programmers [Tyrannicide C-Words, ?]
--->2 Graphics Artists [?,?]
--->1 Animator [Draco2003]
--->3 Writers [Wed-G, Lenny, ?]
--->2 Map Designers [Wed-G,?,?]
--->2 Resource Gatherers [?,?]
--->5 Beta-testers [?,?,?,?,?]
--->1 Webdesigner/Webmaster [Tyrannicide C-Words]
--->1 Character/Backdrop Designer[Aurvian, ?, ?]

2.)Um, I just got signed up and from what I hear I'm the third writer.

We (as in Wed-G and I) will take Lenny's approach to describe the main character. We want to make him as heroically evil as possible. We want him to be able to become the strongest character(in the end) possible.
She never showed up... o_O

3.)Detailed environments* PLUS shadows if we use RMXP. I know where to find it virus-free and you don't have to pay lots 'o' money fo' it. But I can't say where. The blueman is around... o_O
We won't use XP, but we are all afrain of "the blueman"... :haha: what a comedian....

4.)Come to think of it, I don't plan on leaving the team.
We knew he couldn't leave...we know where he lives... :killgrin:

5.)The game will have Irish/Celtic music, Japanese art, and created by
bloody Americans....talk about a HUGE melting pot... :eek:

6.)...when I get home ill upload the pics
I never saw those...

7.)Wow. I leave for a week and you guys go and do almost a months worth of work. Well... a months work to me.
o_O we did a month's worth of work in one week??? We are moving faster than we thought...

8.)Oh no! Too many "Lol"s. I gotta cut down. Too much talking to...but anyway. Suggestions on how to cut down??? Anyone??? (And so, the inevitable) Lol (pops up once more. Grrr...)!
Congratulations on cutting back. ^_^ maybe now you could get some work done... :p

9.)IMPORTANT INFORMATION:
--->Game Title:Tales of Enilurâlor
---># of Official Staff Members: 7
---># of Comedian Staff Members: 7
---># of Posts: 98
---># of smilies (not including this post): 27

Here is your Summary people.

[Lenny]

He he he...

Little problem with no. 5...I'm not American...:p...Lol...:p:p:p

And about no. 8...I'm a gradually getting there...I got the first 4 or 5 chapters written up on my comp...but, alas, my floppy drive is broken, and since I don't have USB ports or any internet connection for that comp...there is no way for me to transfer them to this comp and upload them...yet...

[Draco2003]

DAMN YOU INVENTOR OF THE DARN FLOPPY DRIVE!!!! So, what about getting a new computer? Maybe you could coerce your mom and dad into buying you a new one. Be all like, " Hey you know, my birthday is coming up, and..." and if they come out with, "You birthday isn't for 6 months!" just tell them that great minds dont wait for anybody, and by the time your next birthday comes around, you might not have such a great mind anymore, and you fear you might not even remember them o_O!

[Lenny]

Had my Bday start of Jan so...it's a nearly fixed...so...

[Lenny]

Sorry to double post, but I want people to see this...

Here is what I have found of the little story on this computer. The whole of what I have written is still on the comp with the broken floppy drive. This isn't half as much as what is 'stranded'...but I thought you might like to see it etc...

[Lenny]

I've a just been reading through the posts and I came across this:

... But does everyone have AIM. and if they cant get AIM download zango so we can all go in a chatroom at specific times also we have to find out everyones time zones so the times wont get mixed up.....( O i was late cause im three hours behind the others .... I live in japan so i was sleepin im sorry.... ) anyhow we need everyones time zones and we also need to think of a client we can all chat on with real time v_v if noone has AIM we bust out starcraft or some blizzard game we can all meet in a channel and discuss.... zelarons good to but its I can leave when ever I want and enter the same

And I saw that no-one had answered...:(

Apart from the above, there has been no attempt at thingy...communication between us all apart from on here...may be good in some aspects, but we are all on at different times so...

[Aurvian]

I've a just been reading through the posts and I came across this:


And I saw that no-one had answered...:(

Apart from the above, there has been no attempt at thingy...communication between us all apart from on here...may be good in some aspects, but we are all on at different times so...
its nice to see someone noticed this we do need to find more adequate ways of communication

[Lenny]

I've got MSN.

I recently signed up to AIM, ICQ and Yahoo...and can access them online...:D...without needing to download the actual programs...double :D...

As for time zones, I'm in England so I'm a dead on GMT. I think that you over in America are 6 hours behund me so...

[Aurvian]

I've got MSN.

I recently signed up to AIM, ICQ and Yahoo...and can access them online...:D...without needing to download the actual programs...double :D...

As for time zones, I'm in England so I'm a dead on GMT. I think that you over in America are 6 hours behund me so...
well for the time being my phonelines off so i dont know what times I can be on.

[Aurvian]

O yea here is the image of one of the characters ... I left the rest at home I thought I put them on my jumpdrive but i didnt so, ill get them to in tomorrow.
By the way this is The fourth character info:

Name: Nicholai
Occupation: Theif ( I know its cliche' but I told my friend before this project that I put him in my next so =\ this is him...)
Race: Halfling (for dumb*** its a half elf half human.)
Weapon: Undecided
Magic: ofcourse (element not sure)


http://www.geocities.com/forbiddenshadows_2004/drawing08.jpg

[Aurvian]

If im not on tomorrow its because of i forgot to log on at the computer at school so =\ but ill try and remeber.

[Draco2003]

Race: Halfling (for dumb*** its a half elf half human.)

Not to dis you or anything, but I thought a halfling was a short person. Half the size of a normal person. At least that's what it is according to D&D. Maybe you are going by something else?

Anyways, I haven't finished the pics for the sprite of that one guy. I am also going to be on less due to me learning 3 new languages. Those are Japanese, C++, and HTML. Okay so the last 2 aren't actually spoken, but they are very important in the new world of technology. Japanese has always interested me since I started watching DBZ on Saturdays at about 10-11 way back in like 97 I think. Way back when Raditz first landed. LOL, ever since then, I have been fascinated.

By the way, Aurvian, nice picture. And just a quick question, is his body facing away from us, and his head is facing us? One more thing, I like the way you left the sketch lines in the pic. I do the samething unless it is a copy I plan on doing something important with. It gives it that "classic artistic" look. Very professional.

EDIT: My timezone is Pacific, I believe. The time of this edit/post is 12:09 over here. I don't have anything to chat with, so I am S.O.L there. :(

[Lenny]

12:09 AM or PM???

At the mo it is...8:20 PM here...

[Aurvian]

Imma go to my friends house later and load the other pics I left my jump at home so... yea. draco your right, Nick is looking to the side and we have a viewpoint from behind him. Yo, you gotta let me see some of your work.

(Im behind you by five hours it says you posted it at 3pm my timezone, if u can get on at 1-2 my time or 6-7 your time then we can talk on AIM)

[Wed-G]

nice nice, yall* gotta love texas.

Yeh. I had to restart the game pro. cuz it lagged way to much. But now the engine is staight-clean and runs smooth.

Little info:

1(numpad) and 3(numpad) makes the on screen menu (menu, journal, save, ??) selector move. .(numpad) selects the menu item.

but for now I can't access my comp because of some electricity thing... anyway, I am central u.s. time. yeah. My yahoo name is wed_g2004 so if you want to message me, feel free... it is 6:00 here.

[Lenny]

So, time lists:

Me - GMT
Aurvian - GMT -5
Draco - Either GMT +6, or GMT -6...
Wed - Again, either GMT +6, or GMT -6...

I'm guessing that both Draco and Wed are 6 hours behind GMT...I can't be sure though...

[Lenny]

I've got good news and, of course, bad news for you all...

Good news. Tomorrow, I'm getting my computer back...with a floppy drive that works!!! :D:D:D

Bad news. My mum has got it into her head that I spend too much time on this computer (with the only internet access in the house), as is banning me from it for a week or so...:(:(:(

So, it looks like you've all gotta wait another week for my little thingy...sorry...

[Aurvian]

I've got good news and, of course, bad news for you all...

Good news. Tomorrow, I'm getting my computer back...with a floppy drive that works!!! :D:D:D

Bad news. My mum has got it into her head that I spend too much time on this computer (with the only internet access in the house), as is banning me from it for a week or so...:(:(:(

So, it looks like you've all gotta wait another week for my little thingy...sorry...
and you were the one posting the most ... what happen to the others in this development team they all vanish? the ones who seem to be active are me draco, wed, and lenny


So, time lists:

Me - GMT
Aurvian - GMT -5
Draco - Either GMT +6, or GMT -6...
Wed - Again, either GMT +6, or GMT -6...

I'm guessing that both Draco and Wed are 6 hours behind GMT...I can't be sure though...
Well since im eastern US we is most likely -6 ... I dun know where draco lives but ill asume -6

[Aurvian]

http://www.geocities.com/forbiddenshadows_2004/scan0013.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/forbiddenshadows_2004/scan0016.jpg

[Aurvian]

Im not at home so I just cant make the pics smaller =\, I scanned them this mourning and zipped out so I wouldnt be late for class.

[Wed-G]

what happen[ed] to the others in this development team[,] they all vanish? the ones who seem to be active are me draco, wed, and lenny

I think we are just a four-man team. we can still do it.

Anyway, a rundown on the engine. and I'm serious... this is all working systems.

The base engine is an on-screen menu 1(numpad) move the cursor left 3(numpad) move the cursor right. 0(numpad) is the selector(changed during debug the other day.) the icons to select range from menu(CMS), diary(won't be completed until the game is completed[due to vast amount of entries]), and save game.

It has a day-might system with a light-range system, depending on if you are inside or out. and a time system 1 minute is and hour game time.

and the menu system is alot better.

[Lenny]

Is it possible for us to have screenshots???

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I'm a gonna do the good news bad news routine again.

Good news. I'm still banned from the comp for a week. So I'm not allowed to go anywhere near it...naturally I am able to have max of an hour per day on it...:p

Bad news. No computer with fixed floppy. Haven't got it back yet...:(

[Aurvian]

Well besides this one Imma start one using 2k3 and experment with the scripting in xp... I think its kind of better game wise... I'll still work on this project aswell its just taking to long... o yea there is a way to put xp games online you just need a good server tho so it wont lag i think.. or use lan

[Lenny]

I'll still work on this project aswell its just taking to long...

It's because none of us are actually communicating properly...and the fact that only a few of us are regular users, well...

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Right, good news, good news routine for the last time:

Good news: Last day of my ban today! YAY!!!!!!! :grin:

Good news: I'm am definately getting my computer back today, with a fixed floppy drive. So by Tuesday, you will have what I've written so far! And that's a promise... :grin:

[Aurvian]

I want to say I have created a cool looking logo for us while messing with 2k3 and xp, i forgot to load it up so ill show it tomorrow at around 1pm eastern.

It's because none of us are actually communicating properly...and the fact that only a few of us are regular users, well...


I think we are just a four-man team. we can still do it.

Imma hopefully get a new job this weeks so I can get my internet back... until then I'll just communicate through campus computers. Also I e-mailed tyrannicide to see if he is still helping... so we might be a five man team..


Right, good news, good news routine for the last time:

Good news: Last day of my ban today! YAY!!!!!!! :grin:

Good news: I'm am definately getting my computer back today, with a fixed floppy drive. So by Tuesday, you will have what I've written so far! And that's a promise... :grin:
Nice :)



Anyway, a rundown on the engine. and I'm serious... this is all working systems.

The base engine is an on-screen menu 1(numpad) move the cursor left 3(numpad) move the cursor right. 0(numpad) is the selector(changed during debug the other day.) the icons to select range from menu(CMS), diary(won't be completed until the game is completed[due to vast amount of entries]), and save game.

It has a day-might system with a light-range system, depending on if you are inside or out. and a time system 1 minute is and hour game time.

and the menu system is alot better
After messing with XP for awhile im think we should go to it most of its bugs can be fixed with the use of scripting. I've been playing with it seems easy plus if you have an error it tells you the exact line where it is present so...

Not to dis you or anything, but I thought a halfling was a short person. Half the size of a normal person. At least that's what it is according to D&D. Maybe you are going by something else?
your prob right I havent played buldersgate in awhile and I dont paly D&D (imma prob start since I want to have making games as a major)

[Lenny]

Wed said that...not me...:p...You beat me to it...:p

If we're gonna use XP, then we won't be able to have little cut-scenes...rm2k3 is by far the better (compared to XP), so I say we use that...it got the better battle system as well so...

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Aiiee...you edit your post too much, I gotta edit mine all over again now...:p...in LOTR (book version) I seem to remember our Ent friend calling the hobbits halflings...so...

[Aurvian]

If we're gonna use XP, then we won't be able to have little cut-scenes...rm2k3 is by far the better (compared to XP), so I say we use that...it got the better battle system as well so...
Yea true 2k3 is better at that... but it can be fix with scripting cause with coding I was still able to make a good cutscene it just goes by way to fast...
and the labels are all fucked up =\. they really need to come out with a patch. But imma start a new story on 2k3 about bounty hunters prob and knights....

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Yo wedge I was reading a post in another forum and it gave me a great idea. Mix ffx battle system with legend of legaia... it be hot.
You know how when you fight your special bar goes up... well have it when its full and you choose to pull of a special you have to put in a certain command for a certain character. here is a quick example i made using paint.

Custom Battle System (http://www.geocities.com/deadly_uprising/battle.html)

[Lenny]

And here is what you've all been wainting for!

The latest installment of The Power Pernicious!

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I haven't got much time so...

The guy in the cloak reveals Jason's real name (Raphael).

Where it keeps on flicking to a different place (the dark room with the guy who kills the other with magic, and the one with the ships). The force is the invasion force. I'll describe more when I got more time.

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One other thing. The Power Pernicious is something I'm writing, or have been writing since September. It is part of a series I'm writing called the Worlds of Muldrum. Which means that the story isn't primarily for this game, I'm letting it be used for the game. Change the names if you must, I'm keeping the as I want them. If you want to change the story line, then by all means do.

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Unless I feel extremely kind by the end of everything, then if the story is used, I'd like it if somewhere in the credits it could be said that the game is based upon the book "The Power Pernicious" by Lenny...we can sort it out later...again when I have the time.

Have fun picking over the story to bits as you get info for sprites and the like. Tomorrow I will explain what is happening in the story, and the scenes I have playing in my head and what I would do if changing this inot an RPG Game.

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To say I don't have a lot of time, I sure am typing a lot...:p

[Aurvian]

Logo (http://www.geocities.com/forbiddenshadows_2004/Credits3.JPG)
Here is the logo and remeber to check out that battle system.

[Lenny]

I think it might do to leave this thread open, and use it for our discussions and post anything important in thread three??? ANyone agree???

[Aurvian]

I think it might do to leave this thread open, and use it for our discussions and post anything important in thread three??? ANyone agree???
I'm strait with that

[Aurvian]

well the battle system with Legend of legaia was quite simple it required you to code in your turn based attacks putting up, down, left, and right into different combonations.
The fun part was prob the req. (this will help us add another type of stat.)
a req. is the combo Bar. the main character starts out with 3 slots (this could be a potential stat in our game possibly called CFS short for Characters Fighting Strentgh) I forgot how you made it go up but near the end of the game you could execute a combination with ten slots. or nine i forget the max was either nine or ten slots. Also, there were other req but they dont seem so important.


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O yea I need to know attacks the characters will be learning

[Lenny]

I'll post you any that I'm writing in and ones that I think would work when I come back from London. Take the weekend off, enjoy Easter...:p

[Lenny]

Do you want me to descirbe them in a normal post? or can I put them in a word doc. and upload it for you???

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Brief thingy so you know what to expect:

- Raphael/Jason (whatever he's called) --> Magic attacks - in the cutscenes he's got the deadly magic attacks (think the red light in the intro, and there's his black light self-destruct thingy in the ending), in battle your average magic attacks, maybe lift some from the FF's...and then his 'overdrive' attacks if you will are slightly watered down versions of the cutscene attacks...usually mean instant death...

- Cecily/Emilia (again, I got diff. name) - Healer of the group. If Raph. is like Lulu (I'm talking FFX here), then Cecily is like Yuna...to some degree (minus the summoning)...

- Azrael/??? (I call him Azrael) - devastating with a sword - think Tidus with Auron's attacks...ish...

- Party memberess 4 (name??? Not a clue) - Erm...he he he...a scene has just popped into my head where Raph, Cec, and Az are all asleep in an inn, and a thief tries to steal objects etc...becomes party member...think Riku attacks of sort...and she can be a girl...we onlky got one so far...

- Party member no. 5 (name?? Male...maybe...off top of head...Khirma???) Erm...he can be the...big blue guy...:p...nah...I don't know, my expertise in things run out after the fourth person...

I think maybe 6 members in all...6 is just right...anything else is either too many or too less...someone help with ideas for party members 5 and 6's attacks...please??

[BlueCube]

So you have a Fighter, White Mage, Black Mage, and a Thief? You need a Red Mage to complete the set, probably.

The Red Mage would be able to do some of everything (fighting, healing, magic attack) but not really specialized. It's pretty much Kimahri, except Kimahri never really had access to everything at once (which is why he's generally considered useless - if you make him a fighter, he's not as good as Auron, if you want another healer, he won't be as good as Yuna, etc. ). A 'real' Red Mage doesn't just have all the paths open to him from the start, he takes all of them at once, so he could be a good attacker and heal a bit and do some random Bolt 2 spells.

As to #6, Disposable Unimportant Gimmick Character is a good choice (see FF6's Mog, FF7's Cait Sith, FF9's Quina, 50% of Chrono Cross's cast, and FF10's Kimahri). Either that or you could follow the FF2j example of "put random people in that slot and kill them off constantly".

[Medieval Bob]

Some of my favorite characters (just for analysis perhaps -- to try and decide what makes a good character):

Tellah - FF4 - Badass wizard but old and can't remember most of his spells. He remind me a LOT of Fizban from the Dragonlance series. I love this character.

Shadow - FF6 - "He would slit his mother's throat for a nickel." Hardened, ruthless. Awesome dog.

Frog - Chrono Trigger - Valliant. Proud. Too proud sometimes. Unique... I mean, he's a damn frog after all.

Palom and Parom - FF4 - Spellcasting twins. Opposites of each other. (Much more character in the Japanese version. Damn you, American translators.) Rambunctous. Funny.

Cyan - FF6 - Expert swordsman. Compasionate man compelled to ruthless action and lust for vengeance.

[Lenny]

Rightyho then. I can finish off the list of characters...:D...


Member #5 (Male) - Red mage as BC said.
The Red Mage would be able to do some of everything (fighting, healing, magic attack) but not really specialized ... A 'real' Red Mage doesn't just have all the paths open to him from the start, he takes all of them at once, so he could be a good attacker and heal a bit and do some random Bolt 2 spells.

Member #6 - I'm a going with the Tamer idea Mr. Bob put forward in GMT Thrd 3. His basic attacks are with a whip...and as he levels up he gets better whip attacks, and gets attacks with animals...

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So, recap on the party:

Raphael/Jason - Black Mage
Cecily/Emilia - White Mage
Azrael/???? - Fighter
Member #4 - Thief
Member #5 - Red Mage
Member #6 - Tamer

Those in blue are male, those in red are female...

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Gimme a day or so and I will compile a word doc. of all the attacks etc.

So Aurv., take it easy for a few days, putcha feet up, watch some TV, drink a few pints...:p...but be warned, I'm a gonna give you lots of work to be doing in a couple of days...:D...

Wait a minute...you may have to get Wed to give the yes to all the attacks etc. first so...

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Whilst I'm a new-posting, any ideas for the names of Members #4, 5 and 6???

- They've got to be names that fit in with the story...for example, Raphael and Azrael are from the continent of Monterassat and have the weird "ael" type names, think Italian names during the kind of Renaissance period (???). The tamer (male) is also from Monterassat so must alos have a name like that...maybe he can be Leonardo...
- Some of the people from the continent of Iuirlas have everyday names that aren't widely used IRL...such as Cecily. The thief (female) will have one of these names...such as....erm...Kara???
- As for our Red Mage...erm...well, he's from Ascalarth, a peaceful, sophisticated continent...so he must have a itelligent name...no???

(If you want to know where I'm getting these continents from - Monterassat, Iuirlas, Ascalarth - then you can find them in a word doc in my Worlds of Muldrum thread in the literature part of the interests forum...I think)...

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I think that next time I post about the characters I'm gonna have to post a bit about them...if I've got them worked out by the end of the day, then I'll try and give you descriptions of them...

[Lenny]

I've just remembered about this thing...sorry Aurv., you're still waiting...:p...I've decided on the names btw...though as for the Raphael/Jason and Cecily/Emilia ones we can vote for them...hell, let's vote on all of them.

Everyone involved in this put forward the names you think people should have (you too Wed, if you're reading this), and we'll have a vote on them.

The names I've got are:

- Raphael (main guy; Black Mage)
- Cecily (main gal; White Mage)
- Azrael (second main guy; Swordsman)

- Kirma (party member; Red Mage)
- Kara (party member; Thief)
- Leonardo (party member; Animal Tamer/Trainer)

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A sidethought, what do people think about having party members that aren't permanent but appear as the game goes on. A good example of this is (from Kingdom Hearts 1) Aladdin in Agrabah, or Tarzan in Deep Jungle, or Jack Skellington in Halloween Town etc.

The thing we'll have to do then though is make it the game so that it can happen...which is where our scripter would come in. He or she would take the thing I'm writing, and add to it ideas from everyone else, and put it into script form. For example (quick 30 second job here, but it puts across what I mean)

Tutorial: On boat, how to move etc. (- in game tutorial guy = BlueCube???)
Intro scene: Boat wrecked in storm, Raph. awakes on land.
[Short play modey bit: (Could be used as a tutorial instead of the boat tutorial) move about, ends when you stumble upon pack of wolves]
Cutscene: Raphael running from wolves and killing them with magic. Ends when he slumps against the gates.
Cutscene: Guard on top of wall looks down and sees Raphael against gate.
Play time: Control guard. Pick up Raphael and carry him through town to the Inn.

And so on. The cutscenes will have to be scripted like a film script or play script. If no-one wants to do that then I can do it (scripting the cutscenes), but we really need someone to script the story and ideas into a script to be turned into the game.

[Medieval Bob]

On the names, some of them I like.

I would suggest Sylian (pronounced Sill-Ian) instead of Cecily.

Also, I don't really like the combination of Kirma and Kara. They both start with K and sound very much alike for characters that aren't related or something.

[Lenny]

I quite like Cecily...but that's just me...:p...everyone likes different things...

Sylian could definately be used though...change Kara to Sylian...

As I've said, we'll get everyone to vote...

[Medieval Bob]

Sounds good to me. That satisfies both of my ideas.

[Wed-G]

I like the names, like the idea and I think we shouldn't play out the game as one character, but as several. Like Lenny's idea about play as a guard at one point. You can help him, or you can't. Either way Raphael ends up in the castle room resting.

The game should play out as several characters during cutscenes. But you can play them. Very open ended... Damm, now I wish I was still the leader.

Edit: I read the part about Raphael being a mage... hmmm... I've never heard of the main character as a mage. But, its a good idea. But also, why don't we make a job system, sort of. Like (FF5?) and FFX-2 where you put on different clothes and you have different abilities.

If you like this idea'o'mine, then tell me and give me a list of things to add to our game like, for ex.

Raphael(Mage) abilities:
LV1: Fire, Water, Lightning, Ice
LV2: etc...

Raphael(Lancer) abilities:
LV1: Joust
LV2: Lance Spin
LV3: etc...

This way we could make it alot easier with the menu. For ex. If you equip Raphael with a Lance and he is LV4 with the Lance outfit, than a certain lance is equipped to him. He can now do certain abilities and has certain skills.

Man... this is cool... I HAVE FOUND INSPIRATION AGAIN!

[Lenny]

You can still be the leader...all it takes is a "Lenny, you're fired!"...:p...

Minor thing...he ends up in an Inn room...but who cares about the minor things at this point??? :p

The playing out as different characters idea will need some working. Unless...he he he...you can play as each party member for a bit before they join the group...for example...Cecily could...fetch the groceries??? (Yawn!), Azrael fights Raph. (Should be fun), the thief has to do a skilly bit and try to steal from the characters (idea for this...the better you do it, the better the thief is when they join the party??), the Red Mage has to...do something or other...and so does the animal tamer...

[Lenny]

I'm gonna make a new reply for the jobs idea...

I was supposed to make a list of all the different abilities the characters learn a few days ago...but I forgot, and am gonna have to do it asap. If you could give me a list of different possible jobs now then I can write the abilities thingy with all the different jobs, instead of editting it later...

If we can get the idea to work in the game then we will definitely use it. We want this game to be as good as we can make it. Anything such as different jobs improves the game.

Anyone else with ideas, however minor or major, post them, and we will try and get them into the game...if we can't, then we'll modify them until we can...

[Medieval Bob]

I like the job idea, but I didn't like how it was executed in FF5. Effectively, every character was the same but with different names. I think each character should only have a few choices of jobs that correspond with their background and initial class. This is so they don't all end up having the same ultimate abilities and being, generally, the same character.

For example, and I like this, but the titles may need some rewording:

- Raphael (main guy; Black Mage) - Elemental Mage (fire, water, lightning, earth type spells), Undead Mage ("summons," poison, decay type spells), Death Mage (doom, death, vanish type spells)

- Cecily (main gal; White Mage) - Holy Mage (damage to evil or undead spells), Cleric (heal spells), Augmentor (buff spells)

- Azrael (second main guy; Swordsman) - Knight, Samurai, Ninja

- Kirma (party member; Red Mage) - Time Mage (stop, slow, haste type spells), Destruction Mage (damage spells), Heal Mage (heal spells)

- Kara (party member; Thief) - Assassin (knife specialty, throw, etc), Super Thief (specialty in stealing rather than damage)

- Leonardo (party member; Animal Tamer/Trainer) - Water Tamer (water creatures), Earth Tamer (earth creatures), Wind Tamer (air creatures)

Sub Kara for Sylian if I get my way.

[Draco2003]

Okay, sorry I haven't been on in a while, but i've had some other important issues (money) and have gotten that pretty much squared away. I am going to try to still be the Animator, and am going to start the opening thing.

The job system is going to be like in FF Tactics? For those of you who don't know how that goes, let me explain. You start out with only 2 or 3 classes, and as you "level-up" the class, more become available. Such as, Ninja, which you need to have level 8 of 3 other classes that related to that class. The 3 were Thief, and 2 others I don't remember right now.

The playing of each sepereate character, from the way it was described, would be like that of Dragon Warrior 4 (NES). I know many of you have never played that game so let me give a brief summary. You first start as the hero. You get orders from the king to handle some evil dude in a tower, and so you go handle it. I mean, you are the hero. But, in Chapter 2, you play as a princess and must do something for her. Then you play as a merchant (best part in the entire game) and you do a little shopkeeping, then you need to get supplies from another town, and so starts his journey. Eventually, all the characters meet up, and find that they have to help each other to complete the BIG journey. Anyways, yeah. It kinda sounds like that.

I have just gotten Yahoo! Messenger thingy, and my SN is NeoDraco2K3, because Draco2003 was already taken. DAMN YOU OTHER PEOPLE WHO TAKE MY NAME ON PURPOSE!!!! :mad:

And finally, I heard that Wed-G is no longer the head honcho. Then he gets the inspiration again. I think maybe he just needed to relieve some of the stress. As for the new master of bladestar, I jes wanna say, CONGRATULATIONS!!! :D :grin: :D ^_^


P.S. Character Names! I almost forgot. I have worked some on my ability to come up with names. I ain't perfect, but here's what I got: Kura-san-Gurimai, Hiroriku, Rygerth, Gertanma, Byth, Retunmus, Veritus, Yeligur, Kolminar, Kergull, Vutirael, Nikogasa, Asynber, and lastly Hakusage. If you decide to use some, ask me how they are pronounced. Some of these could also be names of towns, or whatever. That's 14 names, so hope you could use at least one....hopefully......

[Lenny]

You are gonna get your way...Kara is now Sylian. I like the idea of each person having their own jobs. And I like Draco's idea that as the person levels up they are able to "access" new job types (which become available as you level up).

I've gotta start writing all this down, my printer is on it's last legs now...:p...

As for Khirma's jobs, Red Mages are supposed to do a bit of everything (I haven't the faintest idea, I'm a going with what BC said), so Khirma must have jobs from each of the three main classes - Black Mage, White Mage and Swordsman.

Which level-up-to-get-jobs thingy is gonna be used? I read your (Draco's) post as being when the characters level goes up, but on re-reading I found it actually said when the character gets to a certain level in a job...I have no idea which one we are gonna use...anyone??

Another idea...instead of getting new jobs as you level up, you get new attacks and abilities within each job...but only when you level up that job...take the job system in FFX-2...something like that...and maybe you can get a new job when your character reaches a certain level...

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As for Yahoo!Messenger, good to see you've joined up Draco. A little proble I've found with the online version of it (e-messenger), it won't allow you (or at least me) to add any new buddies...I'll have a few more tries on it today, if it still doesn't work, then I'm sorry, but those without it will have to download the Yahoo! Messenger program...

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Right, where was I...oh yes, notebook to write everything down...

[Lenny]

Right, screw editting an old post and making it too full of detail, here's a brand new post...

Another idea, to do with jobs etc. Each member starts off with a basic job thingy (Eg Raphael - Basic Mage; Cecily - Basic Heal; Azrael - Basic Swords skills) and as they level up then the other three or two jobs become available...let's try and make it 3 other jobs, then each character has 4 jobs to choose from...

Also, each member who isn't really a weapon-weildr can have their own weapon (excludes Azrael) to start off with that they can upgrade (Eg Cecily - Staff; Leonardo - Whip; Sylian - Knives; Kirma - Spear??; Raphael - Hand type things -- such as Iron Fist, or Brass Knuckles)...

[Lenny]

As for the names...you'd be happy if at least one is used...yes?? How about most of them?? There are definately some in the list that can be used as names for people...Vutirael is one that will be used for someone in the army of Southern Monterrassat...any not used can be made into town names...

Got any more??

[Medieval Bob]

I'm fine with whatever system we end up with as long as it's not like that of FF5. That's because of the sheer fact that all characters were exactly alike. Yes, I think upgrading to the next tier class requiring a certain level in lower tiered classes is a good idea, but we'd have to come up with a good number more classes.

For instance, one character would have 4 options, then when he got to level 5 in 2 of them, a new class would open up. That would require three 2nd tier classes. Assuming we only have two tiers, that's 7 classes for each charater. While some of them may overlap (in the case of the red mage), I'm very adamant in the idea that classes should be mostly (if not entirely) character-specific. We want difference in our characters. They need to be useful in different ways (or at least in different styles).

I think, if this is what we want to do, that I can sit down and see if I can pump out seven or more classes for each character type and then try to organize them into some rational sort of progression. If I'm not busy today, I'll see what I can come up with.

[Lenny]

Okily Dokily.

Note about the Red Mage, he could have watered down versions of some of the Black and White mages jobs, and the Swordsmans jobs...but not all of them. With another 7 classes for each person then the red mage would have somewhere around 30 classes, and maybe some specific to him...so...we'd need to do something about him...maybe give him only a few of each persons classes and one or two of his own...

If, maybe, you could "pump out" a few example abilities for each character job (one or two would be enough - something like: Black Mage - Job: Elemental Mage - Fira, Firaga) then I'll be able to create a list of abilities and describe them so Aurvian can make them...

[Medieval Bob]

First of all, the red mage should have no more jobs than the other classes. He's the perfect example of the jack of all trades master of none philosophy. He's a combination of their powers, not a body able to gain all of them.

Secondly, and damn this took a long time, how's this?

Most spells will have variable levels of power. In this way their damage or effectiveness will increase. That's why the higher rank spells with the same effect have different names (Soothe, Heal, and Recover all heal, but there will be Soothe, Soothe II, and Soothe III before Heal is acquired.). Some spells will only have the one level (such as Life).

For example: If Raphael is a level 3 Elemental Mage, a level 2 Undead Mage, and a level 1 Poison Mage, he will have the following:
Fire III, Water III, Lightning III, Earth III, Summon Skeleton II, Summon Zombie II, Summon Wraith II, Poison, Decay, Drain

- Raphael ( Black Mage)
Rank 1: Elemental Mage - Fire, Water, Lightning, Earth
Rank 1: Undead Mage - Summons Sketon (strong melee attack), Summon Zombie (attack and poison damage), Summon Wraith (attack and small chance of death)
Rank 1: Poison Mage - Poison, Decay, Drain (steals life and gives it to the caster)
Rank 2: Death Mage (requires Undead and Poison) - Death (low chance of instant kill), Doom (sure death with timer), Demi (half life)
Rank 2: Destructo Mage (requires Elemental and Poison) - Burst, Poison Nova, Bio
Rank 2: Summoner (requires Elemental and Undead) - Summon Fire Elementa, Summon Earth Elemental, Summon Water Elementa, Summon Air Elemental
Rank 3: Dark Magi (requires all three rank 2's) - Meteo, Flare, Ultima

- Cecily (White Mage) -
Rank 1: Holy Mage - Flash, Holy Water
Rank 1: Priest - Soothe (heal 1), Regeneration, Revive (life with low or medium hit points)
Rank 1: Defender - Magic Mirror, Protection (wall), Spectral Armor (less effective combination of the two)
Rank 2: Cleric (requires Defender and Priest) - Prayer (cures status ailments), Haste, Slow
Rank 2: Purist (requires Holy Mage and Priest) - Unsummon, Convert Undead
Rank 2: Faith Healer (requires Holy Mage and Defender) - Raise (life with full hit points), Rejuvinate (regen 2), Heal (heal 2)
Rank 3: Light Magi (requires all three rank 2's - Life (precastable life 2), Magic Symbol (prevents status ailments), Recover (heal 3)

- Azrael (Swordsman)
Rank 1: Knight - Guard (protects another party member), Cleave (multiple enemy damge), Shield Bash (slows enemy and does damge)
Rank 1: Samurai - Slash (bleeding damage - like poison), Whirl (multiple enemy damage)
Rank 1: Ninja - Jump (exactly like jump in FF4), Throw, Stealth (increases evade)
Rank 2: Master Swordsman (requires Knight and Samurai) - Frenzy (multiple hits on one enemy), Power Strike (increased damage strike)
Rank 2: Assassin (requires Samurai and Ninja) - Backstab (triple damage with lowered hit rate), Poisoned Blade (strong poison damage)
Rank 2: Dojo Master (requires Knight and Ninja) - Sure Strike (never misses), Disarm (attack that lowers enemy's damage)
Rank 3: Blade Master (requires all three rank 2's) - Berserker Cleave (multiple hits to all enemies), Concentrate (increases damage and defense), Decapitate (chance of instant kill), Has dual wield ability.

- Kirma (Red Mage)
Rank 1: Black Mage - Fire, Lightning, Poison, Summon Skeleton
Rank 1: White Mage - Flash, Soothe, Revive, Spectral Armor
Rank 1: Swordsman - Slash, Cleave, Stab
Rank 2: Dark Blade (requires Black Mage and Swordsman) - Lightning Sword (like spire in Chrono Trigger), Poison Slash (damage to all with poison inflicted), Dual Sword (summon and attack beside skeleton)
Rank 2: Light Blade (requires White Mage and Swordsman) - Holy Impale (stab with holy damage), Banishment (chance of instant death to undead)
Rank 2: Grey Mage (requires White Mage and Black Mage) - Blur (group haste), Lethargy (multiple enemy slow), Heal, Burst
Rank 3: Sword Magi (requires all three rank 2's) - Undead Bane (stab with banishment), Scourge (multiple enemy attack and Doom), Rejuvenate Technique (group rejuvinate)

- Sylian (Thief)
Rank 1: Thief - Steal, Sneak (rasises evade)
Rank 1: Thug - Bash (damage and slows enemy), Intimidate (lowers enemy damage)
Rank 1: Rogue - Stab, Swift (increases chance to hit)
Rank 2: Mugger (requiers Thief and Thug) - Mug (steal and attack)
Rank 2: Prowler (requires Thug and Rogue) - Assassinate (low chance of instant death), Temple Shot (either miss or triple damage)
Rank 2: Kleptomaniac (requires Thief and Rogue) - Pickpocket (steal money), Purloin(multiple enemy steal)
Rank 3: Shadow (requires all three rank 2's) - Swindle (multiple enemy steal currency), Pounce (multiple enemy mug)

- Leonardo (party member; Tamer)
Rank 1: Water Tamer - Summon Dolphin (high damage water), Summon Fish (chance of double damage), Sea Speak (chance of banishment of a water creature - 'ask them to leave')
Rank 1: Earth Tamer - Summon Bear (high damage earth), Summon Monkey (attack and slow effect), Earth Speak (chance of banishment of an earth creature)
Rank 1: Wind Tamer - Summon Eagle (high damage air), Summon Hawk (chance of double damage), Wind Speak (chance of banishment of an air creature)
Rank 2: Amphibian Tamer (requires Water Tamer and Earth Tamer) - Summon Aligator (high damage and chance for critical), Summon Toad (poison and slows enemy), Summon Siren (chance of banishment of multiple earth and water creatures)
Rank 2: Monster Tamer (requires Water Tamer and Wind Tamer) - Summon Giant(high damage attack), Summon Harpy (high damage magic attack)
Rank 2: Beast Tamer (requires Wind Tamer and Earth Tamer) - Summon Boar (high damage and chance to confuse), Summon Elephant (chance of instant kill)
Rank 3: Supreme Summoner (requires all three rank 2's) - Summon Demon (fire damage), Summon Seraph (holy damage)

[Lenny]

That's perfect! Thank you. I'll get down to the abilities as soon as I get home. You're a star Mr. Bob...:D...


Well there's no way I'm gonna write all that by hand into my notebook...time to get out the printer...

[Wed-G]

Hey, guess what. Good news.

The v1.0 engine will be done by Saturday. A slight delay due to a new part of the system. I added a volume control for BGM and SFX.

More ideas to come soon.

Thanks Medieval Bob, that is the backbone of the game right there. You get full credit.

[Lenny]

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

This makes me so happy!!! :D


What are the basic features of it?? And do you have any screenshots??

[Wed-G]

Well good news, Lenny.

V1.0 IS COMPLETE.

Full version right here!

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36264

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Disclaimer:

Neither Bladestar Productions or Zelaron.com take any credit or affiliation with this file.

This file has been scanned with Norton Anti-virus and no infection was found.

By downloading this file you take full responsibility for it.
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Hope it won't be a disappointment! :grin:

[Lenny]

It may just be me...but I can't get it working...I've downloaded it, extracted it...and tried to open it in...RMXP...which is why it won't work...my bad...:p

[Draco2003]

i cant get it to work in RM2K3, maybe im doing something wrong. I extracted the file to the folder i use, and i still cant open it. I noticed that it doesnt have the little Alex icon file, which i guess represents the game. You might wanna check that, or maybe im delerious. O.O Anyways hurry and fix it, cause the suspense is killing me.

[Wed-G]

I noticed that it doesnt have the little Alex icon

Dude, it's not supposed to have that file. It is too big(to me) to put in there so take one from a different game.

The file is not a game, really. It is just the engine. Ignore the stuff I forgot to take out, like items and such... stupid me.

The diary doesn't work for the following reasons: the diary is such a custom system, that if I made a layout for it, then if a lot of people use the engine, than no one would have an original game.

If you try to play the game it'll say missing file "Wed-G" don't worry. It's just a charset that didn't go with the game. Set the main hero "Player" to a different Charset.

It is RM2K3, so that file would be a necessity to open the file.

Yep...

I've got everyone excited now, I hope it's not a dissappointment.

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Any bugs in the system, e-mail ([email protected]) questions to me. Don't clutter the forum. I'll start a new thread with stuff for the engine.

http://zelaron.com/forum/sigs/11112

[Wed-G]

Setting: Fades in on a boat with mist floating by. A hooded man is standing on the north side of the boat(boat is facing left on-screen). A few people are walking on deck.

Cutscene: The captain walks to the middle of the boat.

Captain: “The boat will land in a few minutes. Make sure ya gacher stuff wicha.”

The captain walks off-screen.

Play-time(Ship):Allow player to walk around and talk to anyone on the ship.

Four events to talk to:
Captain: “Iffin yer gonna make trouble, I’ll a-toss ya overboard.”
NPC 01: “This is my first time to sail to Iuirlas. I hope it is what I expect it to be.”
NPC 02: “I had to get away from Monterassat. There is too much politics right now.”
Sailor: “Don’t mind the captain. He don’t mean no harm.”

Cutscene After player talks to everyone, the scene fades. Player hears a thud sound and the scene fades in with player docked at a harbor.

Play-time(Milacan Harbor): Allow player to walk off the boat and head to the woods.

Six events to talk to:
Captain: “We won’t let ta Monterassat til mornin.”
Sailor: “We have to stock up on supplies for our trip back to Monterassat.”
Col. Nesan: “Northwest of this harbor is Milacan Castle. Milan is the town inside the castle walls.”
NPC 03: “This harbor has be in repair for nearly a decade, yet it still works perfectly.”
Glyphnode: Would you like to save you game?”
Yes or No
Yes case: open save screen, complete healing.
No case: end event.
Teleport Event: Teleport to Milian Forest.

Play-time(Milian Forest): Two maps of the forest, Southeast end and Northwest end.

North west end:
Cutscene: Character walks north and comes to a pond. He sits and rests on a log.
Cloaked man: “What a long trip…”

Wolves howl in the distance.

(I'll finish it later, or maybe this afternoon.)
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http://zelaron.com/forum/sigs/11112

[Aurvian]

someone help with ideas for party members 5 and 6's attacks...please??
Well I have a drawing book with attacks, dont have it with me though but ill lend you in later.


I have an idea about giving the characters ranks we use a crs or Customizable Rank System. The heroes ranks can be customized, if you want them to be a certain rank or somethin they have to search, do certain subquests, read certain books and find certain gems/etc.
Also clothing should be attachable by your progression in a chosen rank or regular level. Same with spells/attacks.
CRS means we have to use a custom battle system. its up to you guys. ANother idea certain things can be found during certain parts of the day keep it daily or weekly cause monthly and yearly get annoying. Gotta wait till fthe first of the month till dojo opens again....DAMN!!!!

[Wed-G]

Where'd Lenny go? Hmm...

GREAT BRITAIN HAS ABDUCTED HIM!!!!!

[Lenny]

Poor Lenny. He was a good person. We shall probably get him back in itsy bitsy pieces...

Anywho...RULE BRITANNIA!!! :p

Whatcha want me to say??

I like every idea...it seems pointless to keep on saying I like it...it wastes space...:p...

If every idea can be put into the game, then be put in it will.

[Lenny]

Sorry for the double post...

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I've been talking to Tyran and he has this to say about the site:

Well, im gonna make it out of images, hoping someone could take some screenshots from the demo itself. I am gonna make a short one level game and I want the same system as the other game(color schcme from text menus etc) so I can set the menu text to be the links I will use, take an SS and cut them out and use them as the link buttons.

I will want a colour idea from the team for the middle where all the info will be for each link.

Just copy that nad post it for me.

Its gonna be great.

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I have to admite I still haven't done the abilities...sorry...please don't kill me...I'll do them tonight...or at least as many as I can tonight...

[Original Sin]

I think you should use some important scenes for the SS's. Scenes that include the Hero(s), using maybe some battle techniques. That type of scenes, that would be cool for the layout.

[Wed-G]

I think you should use some important scenes for the SS's. Scenes that include the Hero(s), using maybe some battle techniques. That type of scenes, that would be cool for the layout.

I have no clue what that means...

WHERE IS MY MIND!!!???

[Aurvian]

WHERE IS MY MIND!!!???

Sorry wedge I was using it for an experiment *tosses wedge his mind back*

[Original Sin]

You know, take screenshots from the game itself to be used as the layout. But instead of completely random screenshots, take ones from ingame cutscenes and battles. Ones that are interesting and can be used to create a layout as lenny posted that this 'tyran' person asked him to.

[Lenny]

A couple of nice ones could be:

- The red light magic in the intro.
- When Azrael fights Raphael I think I put in a little bit where Raphael makes a sword out of thin air - made of blue light particles...

[Lenny]

Sorry for the double post...please don't hurt me...:p

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I've written the bulk of my little abilities document...and small descriptions of Raphael's abilities...the rest I will do during the week...they take so long!!!

Anywho...here is the document so far...

Mr. Bob, please will you tell me if I get any of the descriptions for abilities wrong etc...???

Also, I think that we need some new names for quite a few...especially the upgrades...instead of having II or III after the attack...

[Medieval Bob]

I can give input and suggestions if needed. Just don't expect me to be very useful over the next couple of weeks...

I've got a midterm this week. I've got a midterm next week. I've got a program due next week. Also, I'm buying a house, and it's turning out to be a lot more involving than I initially expected. Additionally, I've got some personal problems that I'm having to work through right now. *whew*

[Aurvian]

I've written the bulk of my little abilities document...and small descriptions of Raphael's abilities...the rest I will do during the week...they take so long!!!
..
Imma go play starcraft for a bit and then imma reply ;) later

[Lenny]

Okily Dokily...to Mr. Bob.

Okily Dokily...to Aurvian.


Gives me time to complete the document then...also I think I may make a document for the weapons each character will have...

Talking about weapons...maybe in each town that the party visits there is a shop that can upgrade/customise the weapons...as well as let people buy new weapons...

For example...let's say Azrael has a sword.
After battles, the party will recieve some items...say they gotta Water stone, a sleep stone...and a +25 strength stone...

Azrael's sword can be taken into the shop, and the items can be given to the shopkeeper who will then upgrade the sword making it a sword that:

- Is now a water elemental sword
- May inflict sleep
- Has a strength of +25 more than it was.

What do people think??

[BlueCube]

Okily Dokily...to Mr. Bob.

Okily Dokily...to Aurvian.


Gives me time to complete the document then...also I think I may make a document for the weapons each character will have...

Talking about weapons...maybe in each town that the party visits there is a shop that can upgrade/customise the weapons...as well as let people buy new weapons...

For example...let's say Azrael has a sword.
After battles, the party will recieve some items...say they gotta Water stone, a sleep stone...and a +25 strength stone...

Azrael's sword can be taken into the shop, and the items can be given to the shopkeeper who will then upgrade the sword making it a sword that:

- Is now a water elemental sword
- May inflict sleep
- Has a strength of +25 more than it was.

What do people think??

You will need lots of swords.. for a weapon and 20 stone types, with a max of 3 stones at a time:

From my calculations it is 7,980 different combinations (21*20*19), and that's assuming that you can't have the same stone more than once, and there's not more than one blank space. That's one "base" weapon. Good luck

[Medieval Bob]

Well, how about a weapon having a maximum of one stone, and stones can be combined to make more powerful stones.

For example:
3 fires make a "fire 2"
3 "fire 2"s (9 fires) make a "fire 3"
3 "fire 3"s (27 fires) and 3 "water 3"s (27 waters) make a flare
3 "earth 3"s (27 earths) and 3 "lightning 3"s (27 ligntnings) make a meteo
3 meteos (81 earths and 81 lightnings) and 3 flares (81 waters and 81 fires) make an Ultima.

Thus, you would have 15 different stone types, but only 15 variations of each weapon because you only get one stone per weapon. Also, it wouldn't be easy to make all your weapons Ultimas simply because of the sheer amount of time it would take. You could make the items drop rarely, but higher level creatures and bosses drop the higher level ones.

[BlueCube]

Fire 1/2/3, Water 1/2/3, Bolt 1/2/3, Earth 1/2/3, Meteo, Flare, Ultima (15 stones, plus the blank for 16 types). Not too bad, but remember that it's a 16x multiplier to however many "base" weapons you have in the game. Assuming 25 weapons, that's 400 with that system. Of course, it depends ENTIRELY on whether or not you want to put that kind of effort into it.


Also, I'm wondering what the difference between the Fire and Fire3 swords would be? Just attack power? Because they'd both simply have the Fire element on it.

"Breaking" the weapon would require some major forethought, however - Unless you like having code like this:


Bad Code

if you picked to upgrade Dude 1's weapon:
{
if Dude 1's equipped sword = fire1 sword
{
unequip Dude 1's sword
delete fire1 sword
add sword
add fire1 stone
}

if Dude 1's equipped sword = fire2 sword
{
unequip Dude 1's sword
delete fire2 sword
add sword
add 3 fire1 stones
}

if Dude 1's equipped sword = fire3 sword
{
unequip Dude 1's sword
delete fire3 sword
add sword
add 9 fire1 stones
}
}

if you picked to upgrade dude 2's weapon:
{
if Dude 2's equipped sword = fire1 sword
{
unequip Dude 2's sword
delete fire1 sword
add sword
add fire1 stone
}

if Dude 2's equipped sword = fire2 sword
{
unequip Dude 2's sword
delete fire2 sword
add sword
add 3 fire1 stones
}

if Dude 2's equipped sword = fire3 sword
{
unequip Dude 2's sword
delete fire3 sword
add sword
add 9 fire1 stones
}
}


Not very neat, nearly impossible to change who owns what weapon, and shared weapons would get confusing as heck.

At a glance, it would be better to do something like below. However, you'd have to plan the items in advance, so that the numbers are done correctly. The Weak Sword (and variants) might be number 21-40, the Medium Sword might be 41-60, etc.



Assumes weapon is EQUIPPED

[xxxx:WeaponEquipped] = Weapon# of member whose weapon you selected

<> Unequip Weapon from selected character


if WeaponEquipped > 40
{
if WeaponEquipped = 41 // Medium Fire1 Sword
{
Add 1 Fire1 crystal to inventory
}
if WeaponEquipped = 42 // Medium Fire2 Sword
{
Add 3 Fire1 crystals to inventory
}
if WeaponEquipped = 43 // Medium Fire3 Sword
{
Add 9 Fire1 crystals to inventory
}
// Since we're in the Medium Sword Area, we know what to get back
// (and WeaponNumber tells us which weapon to remove)

Remove 1 item (WeaponNumber)
Add 1 Medium Sword
Goto Label 1 (which would be at the end, obviously)
}


if WeaponEquipped > 20
{
if WeaponEquipped = 21 // Weak Fire1 Sword
{
Add 1 Fire1 crystal to inventory
}
if WeaponEquipped = 22 // Weak Fire2 Sword
{
Add 3 Fire1 crystals to inventory
}
if WeaponEquipped = 23 // Weak Fire3 Sword
{
Add 9 Fire1 crystals to inventory
}
// Since we're in the Weak Sword Area, we know what to get back
// (and WeaponNumber tells us which weapon to remove)

Remove 1 item (WeaponNumber)
Add 1 Weak Sword
Goto Label 1 (which would be at the end, obviously)
}

}



Interestingly, weapon upgrades would be best done in the following manner - get the current weapon number, and see what you have. If you have a "base" number ( (WeaponUpgrade - 1) % 10 = 0 ), which simply means that it "ends in 0", it's a base weapon - no need to see if it's equal to 20, equal to 40, equal to 60, equal to 80, etc. Then, you would see what "kind" of upgrade you'd want. If you want a Fire3 upgrade? Simply take the base number and add 3, and add that sword to the inventory (taking away the Fire3 crystal in the process, of course). Not as much coding as 30 if statements... and if you want to change a weapon's owner? The routine DOESN'T CARE who owns what weapon - just see if Dude 1's weapon is a base weapon, add 3, and you're done.

Bah, I have a bad habit of coding something in my head whenever I see a suggestion, but you're used to it by now anyway...

[Aurvian]

if we're gonna use customized weapons the effects should effect the heros attributes agility, power, mind, cant think of anymore so, etc.

[Medieval Bob]

I wouldn't suggest the ability to remove the stones from weapons at all. I think if the player wants to save up his stones, he should be forced to save them and the weapon as is until he gets what he's going for.

[Medieval Bob]

The downside with that, as BC pointed out, is that if we have elemental stones, status effect inflicting stones, and stat boosting stones, all able to be added to any weapon, we're going to have (assuming 15 stones from each category) 3376 weapons to code for each base weapon. If each of 6 players has 8 specific weapons, that's 162048 weapons to code...

[Wed-G]

I wouldn't suggest the ability to remove the stones from weapons at all. I think if the player wants to save up his stones, he should be forced to save them and the weapon as is until he gets what he's going for.

I agree with Mr. Bob. Cause all this, to me would make a heck of a job programming.

I'm still stuck with equiping Ranks.

Heres how its set up.

Pause Menu >>>>> Change Rank Menu >>>>> Select Character >>>>> Raphael.

If Raph. has Elem. Mage equipped in the first slot
set switch slot one filled on, set switch Elem mage slot one on,
show pic (X,Y)
"OR"
If Raph. has Undead Mage equipped in the first slot
set switch slot one filled on, set switch Undead mage slot one on,
show pic (X,Y)
"OR"
If Raph. has ????? Mage equipped in the first slot
set switch slot one filled on, set switch ????? mage slot one on,
show pic (X,Y)

"OR"
ect.
that is for slot one. Now imagine doing that for 3 slots, 6 characters and lots of pics!

Now you all are talking bout stones and weapons and even more abilities?

whoa.

I thought we were done with the abilities stuff........

Edit: Well, we arent exactly done with the ability stuff, cuz I need all the names and descriptions from Lenny's doc, but I can't access it at school.

Speaking of your documents Lenny, the one in the interests, literature section, one of them has a virus. I get a message every time I try to open it...

but, maybe we can convince the blueman to join. The programming job is really slow with how much I sleep a day. But I will probably finish the rank system tonight...

SO DON'T GO AND CHANGE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lenny]

I never thought of how much coding it would take...:p...I'm not a coder so...

If we had a team of 5 coders working round the clock then we'll be looking at it completed in what...a couple of years??? :p

As for the abilities, I've still got to finish the document - write short descriptions for the rest of the parties abilities...so...

And as for the document...which one?? There's three in there...I'm guessing it may be the...planning one?? It may be that one, I've had someone say they had the same problem some time ago...is it that doc??

[Wed-G]

I think it was one of the first two docs in the post...

yeah...

I want to get home and program!!!

I hate school. I envy you Lenny.

You are home now, aren't you!!

Eh, nevermind. I don't envy you that badly.

All the pictures I've seen of London or any other town/city in Britain had this eerie foggy look to it. Maybe thats why a lot of good heavy-metal bands come from there.

What, may I ask, Blueman, did Tyran do to get banned?

[Lenny]

What time do you start school in the morning??

I get there for around 8:30 and leave quarter to 4...if you've got a better school day than that, then I envy you...:p

And yes, I am home...:D

The reason most pictures you've seen have this foggy look is probably because we have terrible weather here...especially where I am...either that or it is smog etc...

If you want to see the documents I'll rewrite both of them and upload them into this thread, no-one is looking at my other thread...:(...and the are kinda relevant to this so...

I may not be Blueman, but I can tell you that apparently Tyran went on a 2-page spam rampage...:p...

[Wed-G]

rampage.... yes....

yes, those documents can have a home in this thread...

as for school.

I wake up at 6:00 am get on the bus at 6:48 am get to school at 7:23 am school starts at 8:00 and ends at 2:55. so..yeah....

[Aurvian]

is it possible for us to list certain parts of the project in different colors .... example story elements in red....scripts in code ....party elements in green .... heading in grey..... normal talking in white .... etc you guys can choose the colors for the elements it doesnt matter we started out with red for story but didnt apply it to the other elements...




Production Status So Far...

Possible Party Members
Jason (hot)
Rapheal (hot)
Emilia (could be better)
Leroness (is this a male or female?)
Cecily (Could be better
Azrael (hot)
Khirma (is this male or female)
Sylian (is this male or female)
Leonardo (to long)
Leo (hot)
Kyto (hot)
Nicholai (Hot)
Shadow (off the hook)


Possible Party Ranks
Swordsmen
Knight
Necromancer
Tamer
Mage
Elemental Mage
Undead Mage
Poison Mage
Death Mage
Destructo Mage
Summoner
Dark Magi
Holy Mage
Priest
Defender
Cleric
Purist
Faith Healer
Light Magi
Knight
Samurai
Ninja
Master Swordsman
Assassin
Dojo Master
Blade Master
Khirma
Black Mage
White Mage
Swordsman
Dark Blade
Light Blade
Grey Mage
Sword Magi
Sylian
Thief
Thug
Rogue
Mugger
Prowler
Kleptomaniac
Water Tamer
Earth Tamer
Wind Tamer
Amphibian Tamer
Monster Tamer
Beast Tamer
Supreme Summoner

Story Themes so far
possible beginning (1)
Jason is the one with the hidden past(partly because of the amnesia.)
Emilia secretly likes Jason and tries to help him everyway she can. Especially in the intro/scene 1 after Emilia finds Jason she takes him back to her house. In scene 2, soldiers come in the middle of the night showing her a picture of Jason and ask if she had seen him. She says no and they leave. The next day she tells her mother and she throws a fit and wants him out. He has not yet recovered and Emilia trys to reason with her mom. I'll tell more later. I have to go.
Possible ending
Also about the army...one of the little scenes I've got playing in my head is Jason's mind being "awoken". He is taken by an oracle guy, they (the little quest group) meet earlier on, who is with the army fighting etc. Anywho, he takes Jason to his tent, and awakes his mind, which triggersoff Jason's "war machine" ability, causing him to wipe out the whole army camped there...the magic spreads over a 5 or so mile radius, nearly killing the rest of the hroup, who only escape it by goign underwater...anywho, I associate this scene with the end of the game, and the last thing is that the group goes back and finds Jason in a very very big crater left by his destrcutive magic, and they have to fight him, and maybe, I don't have a clue if it will be allowed or not, end up killing him...and the game ending in a cutscene where Jason finds control of his powers etc, and comes to his senses long enough for a tearjerking scene with Emilia crying over him, before finally dieing..

Possible story partIve been thinkin about the story and I think that should happen after awhile like
(Jason is fighting in a battle for a seperate country then where his adventure will take place. )
After the battle the soldiers go back to the town and Jason goes home and goes strait to sleep. When he wakes up the next one he imediately gets an assignment. He has to go on a ship and sail to another town, to take them from the sea while some others will take them from the ground. While on sea a few days pass and he runs into an ambush. (Me and the animator show a cut scene where jason goes to help out and then it goes blank or somethin and he wakes up on beach) WHile on the beach he doesnt remeber any of the past events. He gets into a battle and then the monsters take somethin of his runs into the woods. from the woods he follows and then he gets jacked of most of his valuables that wasnt wiped away at sea, and is nearly killed. They leave him there and he is found the next day by Leone... Emalias lil brother. Leone takes him to his house and clothes him and his sister tends to his wounds. He wakes up and tries to move but emalia tells him he is wounded and tells him everything she knows between the time her brother found her and the time he has been there. A day passes and then the town is attacked , this is when he find out that the country is is being invaded by an evil guy with an army and a hunger for power. He is still wounded but he still goes out to fight for them Emilia tries to stop him but comes with him because she knows he wont listen. After the town is nearly half destroy but defended they return to emelias and go to sleep. THey wake up the next mourning and Emilia realizes her brother never came home. They go out to find him but hes already dead when they find him..

Possible story part
He is apart of another army, but feels that the (highest ranking officer) is just attacking villages because it makes him feel powerful. He discovers this to be true, and tries to tell the rest of his squad/platoon. They, very loyal soldiers, think he (the main character) is trying to take over the army. The hero and a few friends decide to leave, but the general dude tries to kill them. There are 6 escapees, ony 4 make it to the ship, which they steal from the lower, weaker soldiers cleaning it. They leave the island/continent/city and just sail in whichever way the wind blows. After a few weeks, they get caught in a massive hurricane/typhoon storm and one of the escapees falls over board and drowns. The last three manage to survive the storm, but, encounter a large sea creature. The creature is defeated, with no casualties, but as it goes under, its undertow is too strong for the ship. The last thing the player sees is the ship go under, and the screen fades to black. When the hero awakens on the beach, he realizes he has massive gashes, and a piece of wood sticking out of his side. he can't find his fellow soldiers, so he decides to head inland. He gets to the outskirts of the city, and faints.

Then the Soldiers are searching for a criminal that has just broken out of prison, and they search pretty far. The criminal sees your body, and takes your clothes, weapons, armor, items and gold. He scampers away, and about 10 minutes later, the guards come across your stripped body, and see you are greatly injured. The girl's brother, a very caring soul even though he is a soldier, decides to take you in, regardless of your background. You are taken to his house, where the city healer has you under a restraint spell, and the soldiers pull the wood out of you. You wake up screaming, and try to get out of bed, but you are still too weak, and you fall over and slowly lose consiousness. The city healer heals you and puts bandages with a special ointment to cure the scars. After many days (about 8-14) you awaken, and meet your caretaker, the soldier's sister. The hero just stares at her, and then closes his eyes again. Then another week or so passes and you wake up, and don't remember who you are, actually you don't remember anything before now. The village takes you in, and you become a normal townsfolk person. 4 months pass, and you hear shouting outside your house. You go outside to see what happened, and you see a familiar emblem on a heavily-armored soldier, picking on a friend of yours. But, you aren't angry at the fact your friend is getting pushed around, your a enraged at the emblem, and you don't even know why. You grab the nearest sword and attack full force. (Insert battle). After the battle ends, your character continues to slash and stab and cut up the soldier. Your caretaker stops you, and, since you are covered in blood, she takes you to get cleaned up. There, she tells you of how her brother came across your body, and everything else they know about. You tell her you don't remember anything, but the emblem on that soldiers armor made you go berserk. After the bath, she takes you on a stroll of the beach, and you come across one of your fellow escapees. He is dead, but the armor is made from a very durable mineral, so you take it, even though it is very beat up. This information seems to be easy for you to notice, but your caretaker explains she has never seen the mineral, or armor design anywhere before.
Possible part
Jason, Emilia, and (temporary party member) are searching the continent for scrolls/parchment/stone tablets or some other special artifact, when they come across your lost shipmate. He, unlike you, remembers everything (a little differently, because of the brain washing) and tries to kill you. Your party fights back (obviously) and starts to win. (shipmate) is amazed at your strength, and flees. Your team decides to chase him, and your temporary party member is the first to find him. (at this point game play changes to that of the temp. member) You fight against (shipmate) and lose. He kills you in a very evil and gory way, and leaves your body parts spread out across the floor. He laughs and flees again. (control goes back to your party) Then Jason and Emilia come across his mangled body, and you don't know what it is. Jason realizes it and jumps back, and starts to gag. Emilia, still in the dark about the object, looks at it. She leans over to get a closer look and sees your partners face in a pool of blood. She immediately jumps back and screams so loud (birds eye view of location, birds fly from trees) She can't stand up, but inches away, still shocked at the sight.
possible ending
hero dies (how unknown)
possible ending
hero is kidnapped by a wizard

My comments
^_^ Day and night system could make it possible for alternate endings scenes and easter eggs
^_^ I had an idea where there is a natural rank with people born with jewels in either hand or their head that give them powers, they cant remove them or anything or customize their skills
^_^ we have three different stories
-first story follows raph (can find hooded character at certain times in certain areas as an easter egg) only can custommize main skills in their rank and weapons
-second story covers the hooded character (can find raph at certain times in certain areas as an easter egg) only can custommize main skills in their rank and weapons

-third story is unlockable once the other two are done and follows i dunno random character (third guy is completely customizable - except for name cause that only works on xp. Clothes, ranks (everything but the special born powers), friends and enemies (will effect story, party),
^_^ Characters need to eat and it effects their state of attacking...
-if they havent eaten for days or nights :they wont die just attack is normal defense is lowered and stats given by clothes dont have any effect
-If they have eaten way to much then: they wont die just attack is weak defense is normal and stats are given by the clothes
- if they have eaten just below or just above a normal level then there is no affect
- if what they have eaten is just right then they get a stat boost x2 for the foods content
- food content is a normal boost certain food gives most food fills hunger but some food can increase attack, defense, agility, etc for a certain amount of time (the longer it stands the more it costs or the more it increases and attribute)
- Also about the eating thing you can only eat food to the perfect point of stat boosting, if you over eat instead of falling to the perfect point it will fall to right below the perfect point.
Level 6 (10 bars)State where your stats are affected in battle
Level 5 (8 bars)Over eat
Level 4 (4 bars)Ok Eating lvl
Level 3 (2 bars)Perfect
Level 2 (4 bars)ok eating
Level 1 (6 bars)Under eating warning lvl
Level 0 (10 Bars)State where your stats are affected in battle

when you eat it rises lvls
when you get hungry it falls
to keep from being cheap lvl 3 can only be access through rising
when the hunger meter is falling it skips 3.
Also food should carry some type of taste
the better the taste the more filling it is the worst the less filling
taste lvls
lvl 1 Really Awful (rare food)- A 50% chance of just fills 20/10 of a lvl or 10/10
lvl 2 Awful - a 50% chance of filling 1 bar or 2 bar
lvl 3 Sweet - 50% chance of 7 bar or -20 bar
Lvl 4 Sour - 50% chance of 3 bar or 4 bar
Lvl 5 Drunk - 50% chance of 6 bar and 3 barwith +defense
Lvl 6 Normal - just fills 12 bar
lvl 7 spicy - 50% chance of 15 bar or 5 barand some defense
(any other if anyone wants to add)

Possible ranks
- Raph is born with a jewel in the back of his dominate hand he doesnt remeber what it does though or how to use it since he has amnesia
- person or girl i think it was walking with raph was born with a jewel that can steal enemy souls ( just recreates them in battle so you can summon them for attacking)
- Hooded Character is accompanied by a girl with a jewel hers does wind
- evil guy has mind control on his he can only control people with jewels if they dont have a ward on them
-third character doesnt have a jewel and searches for purpose cause hes an orphan (main reason why he can go around and the player can customize his rank... when i say customize it can only be chosen once.)
New Rank info
People born with jewels (they can have other jobs like thieves and stuff but they are mainly known by mortals by what they have.)
Mortals can still have magical powers through studing to become a magi, mage, wizard, sorceror, etc
I have a book on normal attacks people can use so bloop.
Also all magical people have mana ... no mana no attack


One last thing....
I dont know if ty told you three but me and him were talking about ways we could keep certain information from the public possibly through asking for a private forum in zelaron, creating a new forum of our own, and I forgot the last one lol but those two are some ways we could go by accomplishing it

[Lenny]

Bloody hell that's lot of info...too much to take in at once...I'm gonna have to re-re-re-read it all...

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Sure, it will mean a lot of editting of the previous posts, but we can do it.

Should we use the colours you used above??

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He hasn't told me. Sounds like a good idea. It may be easier to create our own...but then the traffic here would go down and, well, poor old Blue wouldn't have anythig to do then...

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He he he. The time is now...17:32 my time. And all four of us are logged on at the same time. This is a truly historic moment...:p...Draco, Aurv. and Wed, anyone for champagne?? :p

As for the documents, try these:

[Aurvian]

Bloody hell that's lot of info...too much to take in at once...I'm gonna have to re-re-re-read it all...

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:D most of its just an update of what was in old post from 1-8, yellow is my additional ideas and green is a discussion me and ty had on yahoo .... lmfao 10 pages hahaha thats hilarious.... what i should have done is put the update in the third thread but i would have added what was on page 9 with the scripts and put my ideas and discussion with ty in this thread

[Lenny]

10 pages?? Of what?? Oh, you mean this?? I only got 5...but I got it 40 threads per page so...

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Bad news everyone. I've just got an emial from Tyran saying he can't carry on with the website because of problems <-- He didn't say what, but they can't be all that good...

He has agreed to send anything he has made for the website to whoever becomes the new webmaster so...all is not lost.

He is really sorry, and wishes that he could go on working with the team, but, these things happen so...


NEW WEBMASTER NEEDED!

That's pretty good. Heh looks like your webmaster is banned, need a new one? I can help with designing weaponry and such, just tell me and give details.

Still up for it Sin??

[Aurvian]

10 pages?? Of what?? Oh, you mean this?? I only got 5...but I got it 40 threads per page so...

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NEW WEBMASTER NEEDED!
Im already doin stuff so ehm what happen to medeavil bob and original sin maybe they could... brb gonna get somethin to eat i havent eaten all day

[Original Sin]

Yea, sure. Been using Rm2K3 for a few years. Have a few old games. Can defintely make a website. I also made an email to use since Lenny offered me the job via PM. So I made one using the team name(what Lenny told me) and what I am gonna do:
[email protected] so that fits it perfectly fine. I can do other stuf to though.

[Aurvian]

Yea, sure. Been using Rm2K3 for a few years. Have a few old games. Can defintely make a website. I also made an email to use since Lenny offered me the job via PM. So I made one using the team name(what Lenny told me) and what I am gonna do:
[email protected] so that fits it perfectly fine. I can do other stuf to though.
thats cool but whats better is I just put money in a machine and got two snacks for the price of one ^_^

[Original Sin]

Love it when that happens. and yea, I like the idea Tyran had of using game Screenshots, so i'm gonna steal it*shifts eyes back an forth*plus it does sound cool and will look more pro...right...

anyways, send away.

[Lenny]

:p...I love it when machines do that...:D...


We have a webmaster again...:D...yay!

I'll get Tyran to email you all of his stuff Sin, so wait by your inbox for a bit...:p

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Looks like you'll have to Aurv...:p...I'm incompetent when it comes to grpahics etc...

[Aurvian]

... that reminds me did anyone change that logo with the arrow through backstar to bladestar or do i have to ....

^_^ ^_^ ^_^ yea a new webmaster ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

[Original Sin]

I was told Wed-G was gonna take care of it, but not sure if he is. So, I'll just use everything Tyran had done and carry on with it. Plus on page 9, noticed it said that Aurvin was messaged by tyran and had the idea of asking for our own private forum section here on Zel, I say we should go for it.

[Lenny]

But but...you've just editted out the logo bit...and my reply...

You're the worst person I know for editting Aurv...:p

As I've just said:

Looks like you'll have to Aurv...:p...I'm incompetent when it comes to grpahics etc...

[Aurvian]

But but...you've just editted out the logo bit...and my reply...

You're the worst person I know for editting Aurv...:p

As I've just said:
thats the original i think
http://www.geocities.com/forbiddenshadows_2004/Credits3.JPG

[Original Sin]

Gah, stupid school blocking geocities. Wait til i get home to see it.

[Lenny]

I don't think Aurv. minds if I picture link it...here it is:

http://www.geocities.com/forbiddenshadows_2004/Credits3.JPG

[Aurvian]

Ok finally finished
http://www.geocities.com/forbiddenshadows_2004/newlogo2.JPG

[Medieval Bob]

Bit of criticism:

The collar on the right for the male seems out of perspective or something. The angle just looks wrong.

The female's nose is too far to the left and possibly too big. The big factor could just be created by the left factor. She's just angled far enough to justify her nose being that close to her right eye (her right, not ours).

The B's not pronounced enough. It's kind of hazy.

And finally... does yours say Bladestar? Because Lenny's says Backstar.

[Aurvian]

Bit of criticism:

The collar on the right for the male seems out of perspective or something. The angle just looks wrong.

The female's nose is too far to the left and possibly too big. The big factor could just be created by the left factor. She's just angled far enough to justify her nose being that close to her right eye (her right, not ours).

The B's not pronounced enough. It's kind of hazy.

And finally... does yours say Bladestar? Because Lenny's says Backstar.
i know back star is the old one I was soppose to change it to bladestar
most of the prob is because im at school and they have fireworks and im not that good at using fireworks

[Medieval Bob]

Good good. Btw, don't take any criticism on my part as anything but constructive. I can't draw for shit, and I wish I could. Just pointing out what would make it better.

[BlueCube]

What, may I ask, Blueman, did Tyran do to get banned?

this

http://www.picaroni.com/tyranban.png

Edit: Linked because it's got some offensive.. language. http://img221.echo.cx/img221/6762/emotv6ku.gif (http://www.imageshack.us) Although I believe the crime was more for the flood of it than the language itself...

[Original Sin]

GAH, that was odd. Had to scroll by quickly so the teachers near by wouldn't see all that. Might wanna add a warning before the image. That could get people in trouble at school.

For the site, I'll make a new banner, prolly could use a screenshot of all the hero's or atleast the main ones. And I'll also use a part of are logo, just to a smaller scale.

[Aurvian]

GAH, that was odd. Had to scroll by quickly so the teachers near by wouldn't see all that. Might wanna add a warning before the image. That could get people in trouble at school.

For the site, I'll make a new banner, prolly could use a screenshot of all the hero's or atleast the main ones. And I'll also use a part of are logo, just to a smaller scale.
thats cool sin... ty i am black ....and my friend wants to kick your ass so bad....

[Draco2003]

Hey,um I just watched X-Play do a review of a game called Shining Tear....and it is remarkably similar to ours....o.O I am hoping this is just a coincidence...If you want to know exactly how it is similar, let me give a brief summary. The hero is found on a beach, and has lost him memory. He is taken in by a young lady, and the hero has a Ring (jewel in our game) and that is the source of his power. THIS GAME EVEN HAS OUR WOLF SCENE. Him and the girl are in a forest, when they are jumped by wolves....okay so its not exactly like ours, but its pretty damn close. If I find a direct link from either the X-Play website or the official game website, i'll edit it in. This means we have one of two options; 1.) We scrap our current story and start over, or 2.) We make our game better than Shining Tear. I prefer no. 2, but the decision is Lenny's or Wed-G's...whoever is now the lead head master guy dude person. Just thought I would bring this to everyone's attention.

As for the color-coding, I don't know about yellow being comments. In the RM2K3, the comments are green, and I think we should stick to that.

[Lenny]

The bastards stole my wolf scene??! And my intro??!! I'll fucking kill 'em!!!!!!!!


I for one ain't for scrapping this story. If they want something similar to ours then by god, they are gonna be beaten to a pulp!!

We make it better, and we make it as we are doing. Stick to the current story...

Fuckers...

[Aurvian]

Hey,um I just watched X-Play do a review of a game called Shining Tear....and it is remarkably similar to ours....o.O I am hoping this is just a coincidence...If you want to know exactly how it is similar, let me give a brief summary. The hero is found on a beach, and has lost him memory. He is taken in by a young lady, and the hero has a Ring (jewel in our game) and that is the source of his power. THIS GAME EVEN HAS OUR WOLF SCENE. Him and the girl are in a forest, when they are jumped by wolves....okay so its not exactly like ours, but its pretty damn close. If I find a direct link from either the X-Play website or the official game website, i'll edit it in. This means we have one of two options; 1.) We scrap our current story and start over, or 2.) We make our game better than Shining Tear. I prefer no. 2, but the decision is Lenny's or Wed-G's...whoever is now the lead head master guy dude person. Just thought I would bring this to everyone's attention.

As for the color-coding, I don't know about yellow being comments. In the RM2K3, the comments are green, and I think we should stick to that.
im striat with green comments, yellow is kinda bright against this background... ehm our story is overly cliched i love playing rpgs and there are 7 other rpgs with the same story line just different names and different events. Its always goes the guy who cant remeber anything is swept up on a beach .... we could change it to the main character is on a ship and after the ship gets wrecked he is found floating in the ocean days later during a naval battle

[Aurvian]

The bastards stole my wolf scene??! And my intro??!! I'll fucking kill 'em!!!!!!!!


I for one ain't for scrapping this story. If they want something similar to ours then by god, they are gonna be beaten to a pulp!!

We make it better, and we make it as we are doing. Stick to the current story...

Fuckers...
haha lenny's gone mad...... by the way did they have the wolf scene? ....cause that means we need a private area to place our ideas
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lenny did you ever finish my long post lol I might copy and paste the updated stuff into the third thread but im so lazy

[Wed-G]

Ok, well. We are keeping the story. From what I have heard the game sucks! We shall continue our story on the wolves and everything. Lenny my advise is to get a registered copyright of the script. That way no one else can get our story.

[Lenny]

I'm not mad...I'm a fucking psycho!!!

So we are up against a game that sucks?? Muhahahaha *cough cough* ARGH!!!! If I cough one more fucking time...ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've skimmed through the post a few times. I haven't taken it all in yet...I'm not in the mood...I'm too sour at the mo...and "grrr!" if that's an emotion of sorts...

Where can I register the srcipt?? Even better, where can I register the story??

My aim with the things I write is to get them published...so if I can copyright it...if any game comes out and is anything near my thing...there is gonna be trouble...:killgrin:

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Somone download this and please say there isn't a virus on this one...

Read it...I like it...it helps with anger...slightly...though you can't write humour when angry...you gotta be bouncy bouncy hyper happy...

[Aurvian]

haha lenny's gone mad......
i ment you were crazy

[Aurvian]

i ment you were crazy
Yo lenny this character I made yesterday has green on let me upload it real quick, I read your story 5 secs ago and it scared me that I created a character with green on
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lol jkinh

[BlueCube]

Where can I register the srcipt?? Even better, where can I register the story??

My aim with the things I write is to get them published...so if I can copyright it...if any game comes out and is anything near my thing...there is gonna be trouble...:killgrin:





Alright, the UK patent office (http://www.patent.gov.uk/copy/indetail/copyclaim.htm) says the following:

Claiming and enforcing copyright

Copyright is automatic in the UK and most of the rest of the world. It is essentially a private right so decisions about use of a copyright work and how to enforce copyright are generally for a copyright owner to take for him or herself.

Do I have to mark my work to claim copyright?

Although a few countries require that a work be marked with the international © mark followed by the name of the copyright owner and year of publication, this is not essential in most countries, including the UK. However, marking in this way may assist in infringement proceedings.


How can I prove originality in my work?

Ultimately this is a matter for the courts to decide. However, it may help copyright owners to deposit a copy of their work with a bank or solicitor or send a copy of their work to themselves by special delivery (which gives a clear date stamp on the envelope), leaving the envelope unopened on its return; this could establish that the work existed at this time. (Further details of special delivery should be available at Post Offices).

[Wed-G]

I have no clue what the blueman is talking bout....

But, anyway. What I programmed for the game is....

Pause Menu
It includes
"Change Rank Menu"
"Diary"
"Cheat"
"Options"
"Exit"

All I have left to program is the Change Rank selector stuff, like ranks and stuff. I wanted to know if what we have for the ranks is the final. I liked it and didn't want to change it. I hope you all will feel the same about it.

Abilities can be changed later. I just think the ranks are correct as they are.

[BlueCube]

Copyright registration differs in the US and the UK, so I had to put all those notes there before while I was finding the UK version of the law. I posted the US version originally before checking out Lenny's site and guessing he was from the UK. Naturally posting the US instructions would be useless to him. At least it's okay now..

[Lenny]

He he he...clever BC...:D

I know you meant I was crazy Aurv...:D

Cheat?? What cheats we got??

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Who likes the impy thing??

I'm a guessing it doesn't havre a virus on it...:D...

Wed, do either of the other two docs say they contain viruseseses??

[Aurvian]

I cant do much cause I dont have my comp back
Guess whos back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

[Original Sin]

Guess who can't do anything til he gets Screenshots? ME

welcome back I guess....

[Aurvian]

Guess who can't do anything til he gets Screenshots? ME

welcome back I guess....
I made some chara sets for all the suggest stuff and imma get to the magic soon ehm I just need chipsets panoramas and backdrops .... so i can make screen shots.
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Ill get started on battle chars I was just wondering if we could have the monsters display motion the same way the characters do, monsters just standing their is pretty lame....

[Lenny]

It should be possible...if we were using RMXP we could definitely script it in...I'll have a look on RM2K3 and see if I can find any option etc...Blue, do we know if it is possible??

I've still got to describe Kirma and Sylian's attacks so the abilities doc won't be completely finished for a couple more days.

And welcome back from wherever you went...I didn't see you go...:p

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As for screenshots...erm...make them up??? :p

I think you'll be sat there for along time waiting, unless we can get some animations from Draco...but he needs the chipsets don't he...so...yep, carry on sitting.

Btw, how's the site going? Is there a set template that you've made for it?? Or is it still ideas that you are gonna put together once you've got all you need??

[Aurvian]

gonna put together once you've got all you need??[/QUOTE]
I have my computer back lol i was using the schools ...
anyhow ehm
So the current people I have knowledge of are
Shadow
Ktyo
Kima (is this male or female)
Leo
Sylian (is this male or female)
Nicholai
Azrael
and
Raphael
we still need more girl names...they all sound like guys

[Aurvian]

if you want a made up screenshot just take that battle from earlier i made, just take one of those pics or link it or somethin its on page 6 i think dont remeber...
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ok two things that ive found we can do to show monster movement is turn them invisible then use a condition branch with battle animation / or a custom battle system which would prob use condition branches and battle animations in the first place

[Lenny]

GOnna put it all together once he's got it all as in once he has everything that he's gonna put on the site. As for names:

- To be honest, I don't remember anything about Shadow or Kyto...:p
- Kirma is male. Our Red Mage.
- Leo or Leonardo (can be shortened in speech etc. he can say "but you can call me Leo" maybe??)
- Sylian is a female. See Mr. Bob's posts on page...5...which would be 10 for you...or maybe 11. She is our thief.
- Nicholai. Again...who??
- Azrael is of course our Swordsman.
- Raphael. We all know of...

You forgot Cecily...our other female.

6 party members: 4 males. 2 female...

As for the battle thing, if you or anyone else can make it work, then we got ourselves some animated monsters...:D

[Aurvian]

GOnna put it all together once he's got it all as in once he has everything that he's gonna put on the site. As for names:

- To be honest, I don't remember anything about Shadow or Kyto...:p
- Kirma is male. Our Red Mage.
- Leo or Leonardo (can be shortened in speech etc. he can say "but you can call me Leo" maybe??)
- Sylian is a female. See Mr. Bob's posts on page...5...which would be 10 for you...or maybe 11. She is our thief.
- Nicholai. Again...who??
- Azrael is of course our Swordsman.
- Raphael. We all know of...

You forgot Cecily...our other female.

6 party members: 4 males. 2 female...

As for the battle thing, if you or anyone else can make it work, then we got ourselves some animated monsters...:D

Nicholai is on page 6 for me i did a quick sketch of him the last pick is of raphael who use to be jason and... I need to do a quick sketch of the second girl and that will be it for quick sketches... o yea kirma, kyto was the same person i think.. for shadow i dont know who suggested that name but it sounds really cool and i havent seen it in any rpgs much so its pretty original

[Aurvian]

hey lenny can you post the story so far

[Lenny]

I'll have to look through the thread again...refresh my memory...:p...

As for posting the story so far, if you want the one I'm writing then it is in Thread 3...though I have got a version with an editted intro bit ("They say..." bit)...

I don't know if the "They say..." bit will change anything but it's an idea Mr. Bob and I have had to have it scrolling up the screen at the start...so...

Yeah...in thread 3.

Here's the one with editted "They say" bit

[Aurvian]

Ok I remade jason or the main character what ever his name is ...heres Jason
would have been added sooner but I had to resize it so it could fit on the thread... stupid requirements... I'll do the rest of the characters later as the week goes on and submit them friday due to the resizing and stuff ... o yea who ever is

[Lenny]

CHRISTMAS IS EARLY!!!!

Feast your eyes on this...Aurv. sorry mate. You gotta work now...:D