Clyde Drexler, Dennis Rodman, and His Airness -- Another Comeback?

[Demosthenes]

Recently, it has been reported that both Clyde Drexler and Dennis Rodman have been seen working out with the heat, both thinking about possibly coming back to the NBA. Also, speculation has it that Michael Jordan may be planning on joining Shaq and the Miami Heat. Will Mj get another championship ring?

Rodman, who is now 43, has been working out with the Denver Nuggets. He played in a pick-up game with them, but the game had to be cut short because Rodman had an ingrown toenail. The general manager of the Nuggets told Rodman he was welcome to return and practice at the Nuggets' facility once his injury has healed. Rodman's team described the workout as "informal." Rodman has not played any professional basketball since the 99-00 season where he had a short stint with the Dallas Mavericks.

Clyde Drexler, now 42, has also expressed interest in playing for the Denver Nuggets. According to recent news reports, Drexler said he could easily be talked into playing "about 10 minutes off the bench" as a backup shooting guard for the heat. Silly as it sounds, it might not be impossible. Barry Bonds is 40. Randy Johnson is 41. True, baseball is a completely different game than basketball, but I believe it can be done. Clyde may not be able to 'glide' like he used to in his prime, but he is probably a hell of a lot more intelligent basketball-wise than some of these young kids. Michael Jordan proved that intelligence alone can still make you a formidable basketball player.

Last week, rumors were flying around about Michael Jordan making yet another comeback. Apparently, he had been playing basketball like a "madman." Yesterday he denied that he was going to come back. He says he is staying retired. I think it's a good choice on his part. If he had come back, it might have tarnished his legacy, and playing with the Heat, behind Shaq, would almost definitely gurantee that he would lose his all time points-per-game leader title. Still, had he come back, which I believe he yet still may, he could still be a hell of a basketball player. Think about it. Shaq and Mj on the same team? Ungodly. We can only speculate. Just remember, he denied that he was going to come back for a long time just a few years ago when he actually did make a comeback.

[Titusfied]

Honestly, no matter what he does if he comes back or not will not tarnish his legacy one bit. I'm actually surprised you would even say that MJ..

This rumor was supposidly put to rest last week, and apparently most of the conversations that were said to have taken place were completely made up to form this story.. I wouldn't mind seeing Jordan back, but if I had to bet, I would bet he isn't.

[Demosthenes]

Honestly, no matter what he does if he comes back or not will not tarnish his legacy one bit. I'm actually surprised you would even say that MJ..



Oh, trust me, there's nothing that you can do in my eyes to make Mj any less of a man. If he came back and didn't score a damn point it wouldn't matter to me. The only concern I have with him coming back is what other people will think of him. Right now, the majority of the people believe he is the greatest player to ever play the game. What if he lost his scoring title to Wilt? What if he came back and averaged 10 points a game? Would people still think the same? I'm afraid that his name won't inspire the same aww in kids 5 years from now as it did in me.

[Mydogisyourdog]

MJ is and always will be the man. Do i think he should come back? No. Not because of fans or critics. Hard to explain...but its like Roger Marris. He went out in style and in class. He didnt need to come back. Same with MJ. He is the man period. There is no need.

Now Dennis Rodman is a different story. I couldnt care less what he does.

[Grav]

He's already tarnished, I don't think much of him after the wizards or whatever team that was he was on..

[Thanatos]

That's because you know nothing about basketball. Hooray4Grav!

Anyway, MJ should definetely not come back. I remember when he played his last game at Conseco Fieldhouse(Pacer's court), everyone gave him a standing ovation; as well as other NBA arenas. People might boo him if he came back, you can only play good for so long. MJ is way passed his prime and I would like to remember him as he was on the Bulls, not for some rinky dink team where he plays for 5 mins. Yeah, it'd be cool but give it up, man. You were good. You made millions. You inspired people everywhere. You did your job. No need to risk ruining it by coming back.

By the way, I highly doubt all of those rumors had one bit of truth.

[Grav]

I can't even spell basketball.

[Demosthenes]

By the way, I highly doubt all of those rumors had one bit of truth.

http://www.canada.com/sports/basketball/story.html?id=dea064bb-e744-4918-be41-d40ea1d3676a
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~90~2407551,00.html

[Thanatos]

Canada.com? Lmao.

Bah, let Rodman come back and have his cocky ass handed to him numerous times. That'd make for great TV.

[MightyJoe]

Why no posts about Clyde Drexler, guess he just isn't as popular. But anyway MJ has tarnished his lecagy a little bit, with the wizards. The Worm, could make for higher NBA ratings. I would personally like to see Clyde however.

[Titusfied]

Clyde wasn't on the same caliber as MJ, and if MJ had a tough come around during his last endevour, what makes you think Drexler would even stand a half chance? That's probably why no one is bringing him up. All Rodman ever did was block the occassional shot and get boards. How hard is that to do again? Not nearly as hard as the other two's feat..

[zoolander41]

I Dont Know Where You Got That From. That Will Never Happen.

[kockblocker1]

Everytime you type in all caps god kills a kitten.

Rodman isn't that good a basketball player. He was a role player and he did his job well. His talents would be an accet to the Heat, but the Heat won't touch him. He is more trouble than its worth.

[Demosthenes]

Rodman wasn't that good?

Defensive Player of the Year (1990, '91); All-NBA Third Team (1992, '95); All-Defensive First Team (1989, '90, '91, '92, '93, '95, '96); Two-time NBA All-Star (1990, '92).

Bull shit. Saying Dennis Rodman wasn't that good is like saying that Ben Wallace isn't that good, except this guy was better than Ben Wallace. This guy could be quite a player if he works hard.

[Grav]

Rodman wasn't that good.

[Demosthenes]

Grav on Mj...

He's already tarnished, I don't think much of him after the wizards or whatever team that was he was on..

Nothing more needs to be said.

[Grav]

Are the wizards even a team?

[Demosthenes]

Are the wizards even a team?

Yea ...

[Grav]

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[Demosthenes]

WHAT?!?! Why?

And how does a song that someone in school sings remind you of a guy you know over the internet?

[Grav]

Because you're black.

[Demosthenes]

Which makes me the greatest.

[Grav]

It makes you the poorest. Besides KR and DFD, that is.

[Demosthenes]

Ahaha. Compared to the pictures of the house you posted? Plus, I think Timmay1113 will vouch for me, BUT I'M RICH BEEEYITCH!

[kockblocker1]

I wasn’t exactly clear with the point I was trying to make. What I meant to say was that to be a good “basketball player” you need to be a true basketball player. The type of player that does everthing (i.e. Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Me, whatever). Rodman was actually a very good basketball player in college and his first year or two in the NBA. I believe he actually averaged something like mid20s PPG in college. Towards the end of his carrier he totally gave up on the rest of the game and focused on defense and rebounding. This actually made him better at those things because that was ALL he did. That was all the Bulls wanted and that is what they got. This however does not fit my description of a good basketball player. You won’t ever hear me say he was not one of the best if not the best rebounder in the game. He was great at what he did; it’s just that there is more to basketball than rebounding and defense.

I actually think that in a way he may have been a great addition to the Heat lineup. They have enough scorers and passers. In my opinion they could use a specialist rebounder/defender/fouler. They, on the other hand, do not need an ego bigger than Shaq or the NBA itself on the squad. Rodman is way more trouble that he is worth. I subscribe to the theory that to win championships you need not only great players but also great team chemistry. There is no greater example of this than last years LA Lakers. I really don’t want to see a remake of that situation with the Heat. It’s not good for the organization and it tarnishes basketball as a whole.

[Grav]

Which means you're white.

[Thanatos]

Rodman couldn't score. In order to win basketball games, you need to put the basketball through the hoop. He couldn't do that. End of story; Rodman was not a good basketball player.

[MightyJoe]

So Ben Wallace isn't a good basketball player?

[Thanatos]

So Ben Wallace isn't a good basketball player?

No, he's not a good basketball player. He's good on defense and a great rebounder. That's 2 of the fundamentals of basketball. Now, MJ.. that's an example of a good basketball player.

[MightyJoe]

2 out of 3 ain't shabby.

[Demosthenes]

I wasn’t exactly clear with the point I was trying to make. What I meant to say was that to be a good “basketball player” you need to be a true basketball player. The type of player that does everthing (i.e. Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Me, whatever). Rodman was actually a very good basketball player in college and his first year or two in the NBA. I believe he actually averaged something like mid20s PPG in college. Towards the end of his carrier he totally gave up on the rest of the game and focused on defense and rebounding. This actually made him better at those things because that was ALL he did. That was all the Bulls wanted and that is what they got. This however does not fit my description of a good basketball player. You won’t ever hear me say he was not one of the best if not the best rebounder in the game. He was great at what he did; it’s just that there is more to basketball than rebounding and defense.

I actually think that in a way he may have been a great addition to the Heat lineup. They have enough scorers and passers. In my opinion they could use a specialist rebounder/defender/fouler. They, on the other hand, do not need an ego bigger than Shaq or the NBA itself on the squad. Rodman is way more trouble that he is worth. I subscribe to the theory that to win championships you need not only great players but also great team chemistry. There is no greater example of this than last years LA Lakers. I really don’t want to see a remake of that situation with the Heat. It’s not good for the organization and it tarnishes basketball as a whole.

You don't necessarily have to score to be a good basketball player, in my opinion. For example, Jason Kidd is not an extravagant scorer, but he's a hell of a basketball player. Same with John Stockton. Shaq is a great scorer, but he isn't the greatest all-around basketball player to ever play the game. Regardless, I consider him the best basketball player in the league currently. Not the most dominant; the best.

What do I base my opinion on? Well, in my opinion, if you can win the MVP in the NBA then you certainly are a good basketball player, regardless of whether you can do everything or not. Shaq will get his team wins. If you can do that, then you're a good basketball player, because in the end that's what it's really about. It's not whether or not your style is snazzy, what matters is if you can get the win. You could have the ugliest style, score 5 ppg, and still be a great basketball player and an invaluble asset to your team. That's my definition of a good basketball player. If your team is winning thanks to you, then you're a good basketball player.

When we think of the Detroit Pistons, we think of the whole team. There's not really one single superstar. But see what happens if you take Ben Wallace off of that team. I would be willing to bet all my money that the Pistons would not have won the championship. Wallace is invaluble to the Pistons, and most likely to any other team that could pick him up. This, in my definition, makes Ben Wallace a great basketball player. Apply the same thing to Dennis Rodman. Would the Bulls have won their last 2 championships without Rodman? Most probably, but what about Detroit in '89 and '90? It's possible, but I doubt it. Back then, Rodman was a damn good basketball player, and he wasn't this arrogant son-of-a-bitch that he's become today. He was a good basketball player.

[Grav]

That was a whole lot of blabbing for something nobody cares about.

[Demosthenes]

Well, I can always go back to my old way of posting if it pleases you, Grav.

[Grav]

I would just ignore your posts, like I do now.

[Demosthenes]

Which is why you've posted ten times in this thread so far...

[Grav]

Are the wizards even a team?

[Demosthenes]

Are the wizards even a team?
Yea ...

[kockblocker1]

I actually agree with everything you have said. Being a great basketball player doesn’t necessarily mean you have to be the best at every single aspect of basketball. Jordan and Magic sure wern't, they made their teams better and they won games, I think that is a big part of what makes them good.

[Thanatos]

Jordan and Magic were pretty damn close to being perfect at every aspect..

[Grav]

Magic reminds me of Harry Potter, which reminds me of killing you.

[Thanatos]

You don't even have the slightest clue as to who Magic is, do you?

[Grav]

Do too. Magic Jordan.

[Thanatos]

Damn, you're good.

[Grav]

*slurp slurp suck*
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Damn, you're good.

[Thanatos]

What's your point?