Debate: The Death Penalty.

[Sovereign]

A truely controversial subject. Is it humane and ethical to euthanize America's most violent inmates? Should the death penalty be abolished in favor of counseling and life long prison sentences? The topic is set. Debate away.

[symnzXx]

Is it humane and ethical to euthanize America's most violent inmates?
yes.


Should the death penalty be abolished in favor of counseling and life long prison sentences?
no.

why? the term "most violent inmates" would most likely refer to a murderer or a mass murderer. but, the question isn't "is the death penalty humane and ethical?". it's "how inhumane and unethical should the death penalty be?". what's controversial about it? you kill someone, you get killed. pretty simple if you ask me.

[Tyrannicide]

Yes, but think about it..

Bill kills someone, he gets the death penalty. Then to put him to death, someone is actually technically killing him by injecting the lethal injection.

So in the end, someone is getting away with murder.

[symnzXx]

but it's justified because you're killing a killer. killers are bad.

[Titusfied]

No. That is just a dumb way to rationalize the situation. Technically, someone is doing the lethal injection, but they are ordered to do so. They didn't pre-meditate anything. They don't have malicious thoughts about brutally killing another (Let's hope not anyway). It is their job, and even though they may reluctantly do so, that is how they make a living. It's just an eye for an eye.

[Tyrannicide]

Yes, but then someone is killing and getting away with it. Right after someone else is killed for killing.

Your killing someone because they took someone or someones live/lives away and you're getting away with ending them.

You killing, just liek the other person.

[Grav]

With that mentality, dog pounds and vets should be shut down for being genocidal killing camps.

[Tyrannicide]

Im just tryin to make a good argument why ther should be no death penalty.

[Sovereign]

Also, if the death penalty was abolished, think of how many dangerous criminals would be filling up our prisions. People are executed because they are a threat to society, and have no hope of rehabilitation.

If I did pay taxes, I woudln't want my money going towards providing housing for some serial killer who raped and murdered 12 young girls.

Let the punishment fit the crime.

People have ONE life. You will never exist again. Once you die, you're dead until time itself ends. To allow someone to take this precious life of a human being without equal collateral would be unacceptable, in my eyes.

[Tyrannicide]

Good point, but it is still moraly wrong to take lives. Plus, the criminals are good for picking up trash and such. Let them do stuff like that for free.

But then again, the US has a lot more murderes than Canada. We dont have a death penalty cuzz are prisons aren't as full of killers and such.

[Titusfied]

I don't know if there will be much back for the other side of the argument. And if Tyrannicide keeps bringing up these *great* comebacks, it will be over before it started.

[Grav]

The murderers being in prison thing is kind of a moot point Sov, because our jails are packed constantly. Not that many people are given the DP, and it takes a long time.

[symnzXx]

not in texas.

[Tyrannicide]

Yea really, they stay in jail for like 20+ years before they even have a idea when they are gonna be put to death right?

Death Penalty should mean your killed within 1 year, not 20 years later or longer. Defeats the point.

[Medieval Bob]

As far as I know, there is a bill pending in Texas that will make it so that a death sentence for a crime with more than three eye witnesses will be carried out with no death row. (This "as far as I know" is derived from a joke, but I think [for no logical reason] that there is actual backing to it. Anyhow, I may look into it later, but I'm at work now, so too much internet is a bad thing.)

I do not oppose the death penalty. It may be morally wrong, but I'm all for eye-for-an-eye type punishment. I think that all punishment should be related to the crime. I actually like the idea that, in some countries, a thief gets his hand cut off. It's simply more fitting than sitting in jail for x amount of time.

Also, I'm very opposed to the idea of jail. I understand the need for punishment as a society. If there is no punishment, there will be no order, but imprisonment voilates my views to such a large extent. It takes away ones freedom. I know that there is no mandate that grants freedom to those who impose on the freedoms of others, but that's basically hypocrisy.

I'm all for caning somebody who litters. That's cool with me. Fines are okay too. However, I don't believe that someone sould lose a year of their life because of it. That's a portion of their life, a resource of immeasurable value, that was lost to slavery because of an infraction of behavioral policy. Within reason, anything other than prison sounds good to me.

So, yes. Let the state murder people who take the lives of innocents.

[Titusfied]

I do not oppose the death penalty. It may be morally wrong, but I'm all for eye-for-an-eye type punishment. I actually like the idea that, in some countries, a thief gets his hand cut off.

I'm all for caning somebody who litters. That's cool with me.

So, yes. Let the state murder people who take the lives of innocents.

Sounds like a not-so-severe Israel to me. Funny thing is, I agree.

[Thanatos]

What the!? Where the hell do you live to be getting a year in prison for littering? Around here, it's $500 max.

Anyway, I agree with everyone in this thread excluding Tyrannicide. One kills a person, the killer gets killed. It's way better than spending around 50 years in prison and then getting out on parole(sp?). If they kill again, who's fault is it for letting them out of prison? Eye for an eye as Titus has stated.

[Slim]

Well, considering most killers serve about 12 years, then get out for good behavior is appauling. I mean honestly, anyone can fake "good behavior". The worst part is generally when they get out, they kill someone else and repeat the process.

[Tyrannicide]

Thats what the old mesopatamia{sp} laws were. Still, in Canada we have no death penalty, and I agree with that. Maybe because im use to it and its what I believe along with a lot of the country.

I have rights to my beliefs aswell as the rest of you. If they murder 2 or more, give them the DP, 1 should be a life sentence.

Another thing that is dumb is how the defendants try to argue that there client is unstable in the mind and such. What do you have to say about that? they usually get off to like life because they are psychotic.

[Titusfied]

Well, I don't think you can put a number value as a constraint on giving the Death Penalty. I think it is the severity of the crime really. Of course, murder is murder is murder, and that is severe enough, but I'm talking about additives, like rape, mutilation, etc. along with murdering. That for sure deserves the DP.

[Tyrannicide]

Rape isn't killing someone, thats were it is really iffy. You can emotionally harm them and such, but you didn't kill them. But yet, sometimes rapist will get a worse sentence then a murderer, a fault in the system. And do you consider abortion murder? When is it considered murder and such. These are all holes in the system.

[Slim]

He meant rape someone before or after they kill the victim.

[Tyrannicide]

I am saying that rape itself is a capital offence, which can be a death sentence or life in jail, worse them some murderes have got.

[Titusfied]

We know what you are saying, but you took my post out of context. Slim just summed up what you misunderstood. I never said anything about rape alone, I said if someone raped, killed, then mutilated someone, that would surely be grounds to dismiss your, "You have to kill at least 2 people to get the DP" argument.

[Tyrannicide]

I know, but im saying rape alone is a capital offence, you woudln't need to murder or anything, ur screwed for life if convicted for murder.
Add the stuff u said along with it and and sure, give them the DP if u want.

[Medieval Bob]

Who has gotten the death penalty for rape?

[Titusfied]

Does that even make sense?

[Tyrannicide]

I didn't say DP for rape, but a long ass jail sentence is given, sometimes longer then murderes cause they get out on parole.

[Demosthenes]

Well, I, for one am strongly opposed to the death penalty, but by the looks of previous responses it looks like I'm entering a losing argument, so I'm not going to post my reasons. Maybe I'll post them later tonite if I don't have anything to do.

[Tyrannicide]

Well, that is two of us against the death penalty. Welcome to the losing side.

[Titusfied]

You can't expect to win if you don't express your views or opinions. You may have some very interesting ideas we haven't thought of. For instance, way back when, in middle school I think, we were debating Abortion, and I hadn't even thought about the rape circumstance. That was a HUGE deciding factor in mine, and many eyes.

[Demosthenes]

Titus, you should know me better than that. I've posted about the death penalty before. If I get into it, it will be a very heated debate because I am so strongly against the death penalty. I'll probably post, eventually. When I argue about something that I believe in I get heated, and I don't like that. Either way, not now. Maybe later tonite you will see a huge post from me.

[Titusfied]

Well, don't make a HUGE post. Break it up into many different arguments, so each one can be addressed more appropriately.

[Chruser]

I, for one, believe all people have the ability to change if their willpower is sufficient. No-one should be given the right to end someone's life because they consider them to be a "threat to society". The death penalty is, in my eyes, a lame attempt to preserve a reasonable government budget. Face it, if you support the death penalty, you do so because you don't want anyone mentally incurable to live at your expense. If you're planning to say that "qualified shrinks determine whether the accused is mentally ill and/or will repeat the murderous behaviour again once let back into society", don't make me bring up how many times psychiatrists have been blatantly WRONG in such, and other matters.

Do you remember that "mentally ill" person who was somewhat recently executed in Texas? Officially, no-one takes the blame. Unofficially, the "chances are he will kill if he is let back out", plus the costs of keeping such a criminal in prison catapults straight out of the galaxy of feasible budgets. The solution? Execution.

And of course, the system can easily backfire, too, and mistakes are permanent; irreversible. People HAVE and WILL be executed despite innocence, and anyone assuming such mistakes will be discovered while on death row will be surprised that almost all mistakes are found after the execution despite the long wait some of you have mentioned.

Ad interim, anyone who thinks the death penalty is a legitimate way to aghast the public from doing more serious crimes, consider your assertions fallacious. There are NO proven facts that the death penalty, despite the, in some of your minds, obvious reasoning, that the death penalty hinders criminals from committing crimes. In fact, many countries, including the United States, has a globally high rate of homicide, which may evidently depend on other variables, such as the high rate of firearms within the borders of the nation. Other countries with a legalized death penalty show a similarity in high crime rates, too.

But then again, I'm not an US citizen, what could I possibly know about objective reasoning? More than you can anticipate, I assure you.

[Titusfied]

The points you just brought up are part of the few exceptions that are bound to happen in just about any and every situation that could ever arise. Sure, there are people that might be able to be cured, but that might is never a definite. You will never hear someone in their right mind say they can definitely change a convicted murderer for the better through intensive psycho therapy. That is just the problem with therapy, there are no guarantees.

You said as long as their will power is sufficient. Clearly, in my opinion, if someone can commit such a heinous crime, such an injustice to humanity, then their will power is in an unstable state. Of course, there are anomalies, and there always will be, but that doesn't mean the whole system should change..

How many times psychiatrists have been blatently wrong? How about how many times they have been obviously correct? I'm sure that number more than heavily outweighs the preceeding.

Talk is cheap, and liberal talk, citing the government budget, is even cheaper. Besides that point, which is even more moot than all of Tyrannicide's points thus far, and isn't at all a valid debating point, the Death Penalty is simply something that is not utilized enough. Why would you even want a rehabilitated serial killer that raped 12 year old and younger girls, then mutilated their bodies living out his life in jail? Now how is that reasonable?

With all the technology and education in the world today, those exceptions will surely shrink in size, and possibly to the point of non-existent. That is just the plain truth.

[Slim]

Non-existance I severely doubt, there is always a margin of error no matter how minute it is.

[Titusfied]

and possibly to the point of non-existent.

Possibly.

Clearly, nothing is absolute. I mean, it can't even be claimed that simulataneous tornados won't throw a cow perfectly towards each other and eventually land through my window a crush me. Sure, the probability is like 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999 % that it won't, but nothing is impossible. If you take a statistics/probability class, you will realize this.

[Slim]

I understand statistics and probability just fine. I need to slow my reading down a bit though, I skimmed over the word possibly.

Back to the debate, I see both of your points on willpower but the fact is there is always reasonable doubt. Lying is simple, and most murders lie their asses off in court trying to get out of their punishment. Doesn't this show something wrong? They don't have the willpower to contain what they were feeling and can get off the hook because they claimed they changed? It's bullshit. I'll equate it to Zelaron, do you want The1 coming back and annoying you all? No, of course not, and he claimed to have changed. It's the same principle, although The1 and a violent killer aren't the same obviously.

[Chruser]

Sigh, here we go again with the financial reasons. So let me get this straight, instead of taking the chances of being able to find out who may truly be innocent and who should be let be back into society, even though these numbers are relatively small, they should all be executed BEFORE more thorough investigations can be performed? If you want to claim the legal system is perfect, then why have a reasonably large number of "criminals" been executed while innocent?

And no, the the financial reasons are not moot by any means. They are quite obvious, fundamental reasons behind the whole idea of the death penalty.



Clearly, in my opinion, if someone can commit such a heinous crime, such an injustice to humanity, then their will power is in an unstable state.

Frankly, anyone is entitled to their own opinion, but it carries no significant weight. And besides, your assumptions are fallacious. Their willpower is not likely unstable; rather do they have certain, subconscious goals like most people, some of which include lying to psychiatrists in order to gain freedom, or in the cases of "mental evaluation", to be determined legally insane.



How many times psychiatrists have been blatently wrong? How about how many times they have been obviously correct? I'm sure that number more than heavily outweighs the preceeding.

Assumptions. Phychiatrists aren't perfect; nor are lie detectors although the latter work very well on just about all people who do not know how lie detectors work, plus a selection of "skilled sociopaths". These special people still represent a diminishing minority of criminals. Unfortunately, lie detectors are not commonly used, not to mention there are legal ways to escape the tests I do not intend to discuss in detail here. In short, more thorough investigations of criminals should be made. If they're not fit to be let back into society after a time in prison, then let them stay for a longer amount of time. People change, and there are no good reasons behind keeping people in prison "forever" except for pleasing members of society, if they will no longer revert to their old, destructive behaviour.

[MightyJoe]

I have to agree with Titusfied, if you rape like a fifteen year old girl, then you kill her you desever the DP. It goes along with an eye for an eye, you might also get raped in jail. But anyway the DP is a good thing to have it punishes those who commit hanous crimes. Also for every one person killed by the DP, 18 murders are detered.

[Demosthenes]

Also for every one person killed by the DP, 18 murders are detered.

Bullshit. America executes quite a few people, yet we have 11000+ firerm-related homicides per year? Where did you get that statistic from, might I ask. If I was angry enough to kill somebody I can swear to you the death penalty would not frighten me one bit.

[MightyJoe]

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/guadelupe/435/essay2.html

It's in the third paragraph.

[Slim]

That says eight, not eighteen.

[MightyJoe]

Professor Layson found that 18 murders were deterred by each execution is the U.S.
Pretty sure thats 18.

[Slim]

Taken right from the text.

Another way in which the death penalty prevents murder is the elimination of vicious murderers from our society. If the vicious killer is dead, he or she will not be able to kill again. Most supporters of the death penalty feel that offenders should be punished for their crimes. Supporters of the death penalty are in favour of making examples out of vicious murderers, and know that the threat of death will indeed be enough to lower the crime rate. According to Isaac Ehrlich's study, published on April 16, 1976,eight murders are deterred for each execution that is carried out in the U.S.A. He goes on to say, "If one execution of a guilty capital murderer deters the murder of one innocent life, the execution is justified." To most supporters of the death penalty, like Ehrlich, if even just one life is saved, for countless executions of the guilty, the executions are justified. The theory that society engages in murder when executing the guilty is considered invalid by most supporters, including Ehrlich. He feels that execution of convicted offenders expresses the great value society places on innocent human life.


Ah, I see what I posted was from 76, what you posted was from 86, that's almost 20 years ago it really has no relevance today.

[D3V]

A few key rolls play into the Death Penalty.

The Convicted Guilty person(s) that commited the crime.

Scenario: There is a bar fight, some guy attacks another man in a parkinglot outside of the bar. He runs to his car, in defense, and shoots the man, killing him on the spot. In most people's eyes it was self defense, but some drunks could have seen it differently, and he himself was drunk at the time of the shooting. Now, he doesn't get the chance for Life in jail, but is going to recieve the Death Penalty. How does our 'government' that says We ourselves cannot kill, go ahead with the 'murder' of a person, to help rid society of this...

Does this mean our own government is above the law? sounds iffy.

And, what, if anything, gives One man the right to kill another man..? Nothing. The bible states, 'Thou shout not kill another man'. Somebody has to do it, so people are hired just for these 'executions'.

Another side of the story is, what gives Doctors the right to decide if a paitent is not going to make it? I mean, they have the most knowledge to weather the paitent is just wasting time/space. Doctors have people's lives in their hands every day, and even though they have the most knowledgeable opinion of it, it may not always be right.

I believe that the Death Penalty is not right. But it IS needed for our society. Not everything in our lives we are going to agree with, but sometimes you just have to live with it.

[Medieval Bob]

Nobody runs to their car, gets a gun out, and shoots another man in self defense. At the point that they get to their car, when they get the gun out instead of getting in and leaving, the entire essence of self defense is gone.

Secondly, religion has nothing to do with government. Nothing that the Bible says has/should have any effect whatsoever on the death penalty.

Finally, doctors killing patients? As in... pulling the plug? They aren't even allowed make that call. The families of the patients do that.

[Titusfied]

Yeah, what do you think that whole Dr. Kavorkian thing was all about?

[Tyrannicide]

A few key rolls play into the Death Penalty.

The Convicted Guilty person(s) that commited the crime.

Scenario: There is a bar fight, some guy attacks another man in a parkinglot outside of the bar. He runs to his car, in defense, and shoots the man, killing him on the spot. In most people's eyes it was self defense, but some drunks could have seen it differently, and he himself was drunk at the time of the shooting. Now, he doesn't get the chance for Life in jail, but is going to recieve the Death Penalty. How does our 'government' that says We ourselves cannot kill, go ahead with the 'murder' of a person, to help rid society of this...

Does this mean our own government is above the law? sounds iffy.

That is what I was saying earlier, but everyone was like, the executioner is being given the right to kill them.


And, what, if anything, gives One man the right to kill another man..? Nothing. The bible states, 'Thou shout not kill another man'. Somebody has to do it, so people are hired just for these 'executions'.


True, a lot of people here dont read the bible, so they prolly wouldn't care about that. Not religiuous.

[Tyrannicide]

That along with abortion.

If asked to pull that plug, it is considered assisted suicide. If the patient had enuff strength, they would kil themself. hat is why that is allowed. If you were that sick or injured to point of uselessness, you would kill urself if you could.

Abortion...that is murder, you're taking the life of a innocent child without the childs consent. But yet it's aloud. The only time I would really understand soemone getting an abortion is if they were rapped, if not they shouldn't be allowed. Its something they chose, have sex without a condomn. They need to be stuck wityh there poor decision.

[undeadzombieguy]

I'm against death penalty, because the offenders will die no matter what, letting them stay in prison which is no fun at all seems IMO more fitting than giving them a quick painless death.

Also it's been said that u dont want ur tax money to go to those ppl, well u can see it like this, it's not going to the prisoners, but rather to the ppl who take care of them thus making that money is someone elses paycheck. The prison industry is actually quite profitable and an interesting sector to invest ur money in as this sector is only growing these days.

[Slim]

Would you rather have the child be brouth up in a squallid hellhole and constantly be sick? One reason alot of people get abortions is because they couldn't afford or take care of the child, they COULD put them up for adoption though. But abortion isn't the issue at hand, so quit brining it up Tyrannicide.

[Penny_Bags]

Why not just kill anyone who commits a felony? Won't have many fucking felonies then will we?

[Titusfied]

Well, it might be more fitting and more tortureful for the murderer, but the Death Penalty gives the victims family and friends closure. That alone is worth it, IMO.

[Tyrannicide]

Why not just kill anyone who commits a felony? Won't have many fucking felonies then will we?
ROFL!! Tru, that would solve all the worlds problems.

Slim: I bring it up because its not considered murder, even though ur taking a life. Something other people get the DP for. All death caused by someone else should result in a life sentence or the DP. Its not fair, someone dies for taking someones life who has seen the world and someones life who hasn't. Which one sounds worse. You cant say this is ok, and this isn't. It all results in death.

The death penalty is the fast way out, you should investigate further into the criminals before doing anything such as putting them on DR/ DP. You can't have one or the other.

The DP is a poor way out. No matter what a person does, NO one deserves to die, NO one, NO matter what they did.

[Penny_Bags]

Fuck the lethal injection, there are cheaper ways to kill someone, and that helps the economy! Speaking of the economy, less people=more job availability, and as an added benefit, the people we are gonna be killing might just be criminals!

[undeadzombieguy]

I was lying in bed thinking about this last night, and this chainreaction of thoughts emerged...

to sum it up:
It's ignorant to kill someone when u dont know what will happen with them once they are dead (which nobody does), would death really be the worst sentence someone could have? , but maybe they go to ''hell'' and get the punishment they deserve according to most ppl. But maybe they go to ''heaven'' what kind of punishment is that!? But when ur letting them rot in jail u KNOW what is happening to them and know that they get punished for their crime(s).

note that I use heaven and hell just to indicate good things or bad things, dont response with bible crap about this.

And as for the families who want closure, they should understand that he's gonna die no matter what and it will be in jail. (if death sentence will get scrapped it will be replaced with life sentence in jail, right?) Once they realise that, they will be able to close that matter. But I guess not everyone thinks the way I do, so death sentence is gonna last a while I think.

[Penny_Bags]

You can't argue religous theory, no matter what kind it is.

Also, my point still stands. If we kill everyone that commits a felony, then we won't have many criminals will we? And of course, it helps the economy.

After eliminating all of the said criminals, we shall turn our sights to the rest of the world. After all, we don't want people around the world with the chance to hurt other people do we? Solution, kill them all!

[Medieval Bob]

While that's not entirely a bad idea, there are some felonies that simply don't deserve the death penalty. I'll see if I can get a list together later.

[‡AC‡]

letting them stay in prison which is no fun at all .
Ok take from me. Prision can be more fun for these guys than living on the street. They are allowed to have baseball and basketball games, play on a rec yard and work out on a weight pile. They can convers with each other and share storys. They get free medical for what ever sickness they come down with at anytime durring the day, Nurses are on hand at all times. Even the guys locked up in the cell block are allowed to play basket ball on there own private court. Hell theres a few people in the past that liked prison so much as soon as they got out they robbed a store to get back in or a more haness crime.
Theres even a few guys in there that are gonna get out before they turn 40 and i know for a fact they are not going to lead a good life. I fell full hardlly they will commit murder when they get out. I rather see them put to death then get a chance to do what they did in the first place. Theres one guy that has spent the last 5 years of his term in the cell block and he is about to get discharged. I really think he'll be back in jail within a week of release. Death penalty should be manatory for anyone convicted of permeditated murder.

[timmay1113]

I dont think anyone really deserves the death penalty but they really need to crack down on prison life. They should make prison a place people HATE to be at and can't wait to get out of. The only things these bastards don't get is women and i wouldn't be surprised if that's next. It costs a shit load of money to do all of this and when I grow up I don't want my tax shit to go towards a Prison Baseball field or a prison basketball court.

[‡AC‡]

Too Late.
The prison I work at has 5 dorms.Each dorm has its own Full sized out door cement Basket ball court. the Cell Block has two Courts that are spilt into half court (ie. 4 courts) and the compund has one indoor lamanated wood floor court that all the dorms share. and a full sized baseball field and on the out side edges of the baseball field theres a football field and two volleyball courts

[Medieval Bob]

Married (and engaged, I believe) inmages get conjugal visits. Somebody correct me if there are other stipulations.

[‡AC‡]

DOC posted policy banns all sexual activaty in louisiana prisons, In other words the wives arent getting any from there hubbies anytime soon.

[Penny_Bags]

And the guys go butt sex it up then? That's fucking wrong.

[‡AC‡]

If they get cought they get 180 days added to the terms , sent to the cell block , get beat up in the block by the stright guys.

[Penny_Bags]

hahaha... That's hillarious, I wanna work at a prison... sounds mildly amusing.

[MightyJoe]

Thanks for sharing some info on prisoners MasterAC. This shows that those in jail also have time to do whatever. By giving them the death penelty they are killed and can't do anything fun. Also it does bring clouser to the families.

[Penny_Bags]

Fuck the emotional garbage.... THE ECONOMY!!!!!

[undeadzombieguy]

masterAC in what kind of prison do you work? I cant imagine every prison is like that, even so, the ability not to go where u want is fucked up, try locking urself up for a week...

[Penny_Bags]

What the hell is it that you people don't understand about killing everyone?

[‡AC‡]

masterAC in what kind of prison do you work? I cant imagine every prison is like that, even so, the ability not to go where u want is fucked up, try locking urself up for a week...
A medium sercurity prison operated by GEO corp. Its a law that prisons must provide activates that keep the inmates healthy. and the max that prisons (in louisiana) can make imates work is 8 hours a day. so like most other prisons basketball and baseball equipment is provided along with weight lifting equipment. GEO makes money by have inmates make goods, my prison is a woodcrafting prison. Inmates that live in the Jupiter dorm work on field lines choping trees down. Inmates in the Earth dorm work in whats called prison industries makeing furniture. Inmates in the Mercury dorm are kitchen works along with the elderly and cripled inmates. Mars in a 208 inmate capacity cell block. and Saturn is the trusty dorm they work as orderlys cleaning the compound.

As for locking myself up, I'am locked up 12 hours out of the day and can't leave. Should a hurricane come to louisiana i would have to go to the prison and live there till the weather passes. If the officer that is suppose to take my place doesnt show up i have to stay at the prison and wait for them to find someone to take my spot. If the adminerstaion see there is a need to serach me they have the full right to search my truck and me. While at the prison theres only one thing that sets my apart from the inmates, i have the badge.

[-Spector-]

I think that is the second time you've said "only difference is the badge" Do they tell you that when they are training you? catchy anyway ... lol

[Ganga]

Too many people in the world, we should kill some already, oh well bush is doing it.

[w00t.ace]

ya i no this is kinda late to say, but in the first page when u sadi u didnt wanna pay for the housing of the murderer sov, it costs more to kill him, for some darned reason, with the electrical chair and such

[Sovereign]

How can it possibly cost more to kill a man then to keep him alive and healthy in a prison system for YEARS....

And a lot of places are now turning to lethal injection instead of the electric chair. I doubt 3 vials of chemicals can cost a few hundred thousand dollars...

[‡AC‡]

I think that is the second time you've said "only difference is the badge" Do they tell you that when they are training you? catchy anyway ... lol
No but, its the truth. In training they tell us all kinds of stuff to try and get rid of the weaker people. I'am currently working In the cell block.
On a side note, the inmate I was talking about in my first post on this subject has had 3 more years added to his term. He threw piss on another inmate and its atempted murder on his part because he has AIDS and a few other deasies.

Sov is right, the gov. pays the prison I work at around 84$ per inmate per day. You do the math on a 1500 inmate prison for one year.