Another American has been kidnapped

[frickaline]

He was nabbed by Saudi terrorists. Current status unknown. I guess we should be expecting a sequel to the Berg movie. Wonderful....

-frick

Here's the article.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/12/saudi.shooting/index.html

[Sovereign]

Wow..... why am i not suprised.

All americans should LEAVE that place, and napalms should drop shortly thereafter.

Im sick of diplomacy. Im sick of all this shit. Get. Rid. Of. Them. Kill them, irradiate them, bomb them, plauge them, curse them, I DONT CARE. Enough with this bullshit already.

[Titusfied]

Ugh, lets hope not at least. Lets just hope for a safe return.. Unlikely, yes, but lets hope anyway..

[Grav]

What are you talking about Sov? The amount of people that are extremists over there is very low. If we just burned them all it'd be a huge genocide.

[Penny_Bags]

Yeah Sov!! Great idea!! Since you (who happens to be doing nothing) are sick of this "war", than we should just commit terribly inhumane acts! Your laziness is a perfect excuse for the slaying of innocent civilians... so Sovrin 4 prezidint!!!

[slaynish]

Yeah Sov!! Great idea!! Since you (who happens to be doing nothing) are sick of this "war", than we should just commit terribly inhumane acts! Your laziness is a perfect excuse for the slaying of innocent civilians... so Sovrin 4 prezidint!!!

As oppose to you doing... anything more than he has? Just shut up.

[Sovereign]

I was reffering to known terrorist hideouts. NOT FUCKING INNOCENT CIVILIANS. If you are so dumb as to think that I would advocate the killing of millions of people for NO reason, then you should be next in line to take your head off with a shotgun.

I would have all the americans leave, so NO more of this murder shit happens.

[Grav]

I was reffering to known terrorist hideouts. NOT FUCKING INNOCENT CIVILIANS. If you are so dumb as to think that I would advocate the killing of millions of people for NO reason, then you should be next in line to take your head off with a shotgun.

I would have all the americans leave, so NO more of this murder shit happens.

And where do you think they are?

Among the civilians..

What MURDER SHIT will be solved if we leave? EVERYONE WILL KILL EACH OTHER UNTIL THEY FORM A NEW DICTATORSHIP.

Yay!!

How about I nuke you? Fucking..

[Sovereign]

GOD DAMN IT GOD DAMN IT GOD DAMN IT. Do I have to explain EVERYTING I say. YOu can't just take context clues to figure out what the fuck i'm talking about?

When I said American's out of there, I meant civilians. Not the military. Notice how I refered to the murder of this recent man. He, was a civilian. I honestly thought someone of your self proclaimed intelect would be able to pick on that, but apparently I was mistaken.

[Grav]

GOD DAMN IT GOD DAMN IT GOD DAMN IT. Do I have to explain EVERYTING I say. YOu can't just take context clues to figure out what the fuck i'm talking about?

When I said American's out of there, I meant civilians. Not the military. Notice how I refered to the murder of this recent man. He, was a civilian. I honestly thought someone of your self proclaimed intelect would be able to pick on that, but apparently I was mistaken.

I just don't believe you're intelligent enough to have that belief, so I go to what you're saying, not what you're implying (since I didn't think you were capable of it.)

It doesn't mean I'm not going to nuke you though, DA.

[Hades-Knight]

*Nuclear launch detected*







Haha but yeah thats gay........they keep getting kidnapped......oh well it happens everywhere, do you know how many people are kidnapped monthly in colombia? more than any american kidnapping over a 100 years

[frickaline]

Hey...every one of us has gotten frustrated with this situation at one time or another and just wished the entire region didnt exist.

Its not rational...it's just frustration with a no-win situation.

No one wants to see the region "nuked". We just want resolution to what is going on.

-frick

[Penny_Bags]

Wow..... why am i not suprised.

All americans should LEAVE that place, and napalms should drop shortly thereafter.

Im sick of diplomacy. Im sick of all this shit. Get. Rid. Of. Them. Kill them, irradiate them, bomb them, plauge them, curse them, I DONT CARE. Enough with this bullshit already. You never once referred to a certain group of people. Also, "plauging" and "irradiating" sounds pretty inhumane to me, dipshit.

[Penny_Bags]

As oppose to you doing... anything more than he has? Just shut up. Slaynish, that doesn't make any fucking sense. I know I am not doing shit, but I am not saying "I am getting sick of this, so let's kill tons of people that don't need to be killed".

Also, Sov did NOT say that he wanted to just leave Iraq, he said that once we leave Iraq we should Napalm the fuck out of them, that isn't accurately taking down terrorist threats, civilian casualties would be inevitable.

[Sovereign]

Umm.... I don't care? I'm talking about the terrorists, and I'm sorry if I show absolutely no compassion for these murdering fuckheads.

[D3V]

Well heres how I see it:

1. Our origional purpose of going to Iraq was to disarm Saddam Hussien and search for 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'
2. We went against the UN's plans to search for them, and went to 'War'.
3. Our diversion from failing to find Osama Bin Laden was 'Iraqi Freedom'
4. We have been over there for ... Several months and Haven't found ONE Weapon of Mass Destruction.
5. The United States alone has over 700 casulties. Where-as we had captured Saddam hussien back in December.
6. We still haven't found the leader of 'Al-Qadea'
7. America looks like a fucking joke because of all of this, we're over there trying to 'liberate' and 'rebuild their government'. .... And what the fuck for? What gives us the GODDAMN right to go to somebody elses country, demolish everything, and make it how we want it? Thats bullshit, I believe that is against our own constitution.

Another thing, why would we even want to help Iraq? Suddenly we decide to RUSH over there, and help them the fuck out .... I thought they were our fucking enemies? Am I wrong? What the hell is going on, this is like a damn episode on the twilight zone, everything is all tipsy and ass backwards.

But then again, i'm only 16 and I can't vote....

[badboy]

But then again, i'm only 16 and I can't vote....

That's a good thing, because your a ignorant, liberal fuckstick.

Just because Clinton was caught up in too many scandals to go over and actually do something as a President doesn't mean we can't liberate the Iraqies from a 3-4 decade long Dictatorship.

700 people, that's funny. How many died on D-Day, what, 10000? Let's see 700 in a year, 10000 in one day. ( Or you could compare it to 50000 in 3 days from Gettysberg. )

[frickaline]

That's a good thing, because your a ignorant, liberal fuckstick.

Just because Clinton was caught up in too many scandals to go over and actually do something as a President doesn't mean we can't liberate the Iraqies from a 3-4 decade long Dictatorship.

700 people, that's funny. How many died on D-Day, what, 10000? Let's see 700 in a year, 10000 in one day. ( Or you could compare it to 50000 in 3 days from Gettysberg. )

Clinton nearly had a middle east peace agreement, but then that's pretty simple stuff I guess.

[Demosthenes]

700 people, that's funny.

Right...so 700 peoples' lives are absolutely meaningless. The point is that they are dying, FOR NOTHING, that is what pisses me off, not the number of people that have died. And Clinton was a damn good president.

[Penny_Bags]

Umm.... I don't care? I'm talking about the terrorists, and I'm sorry if I show absolutely no compassion for these murdering fuckheads. And my point is that there is no possible way to take care of these "murdering fuckheads" without having service men or women in there taking them out. Bombs and napalm aren't the way to go if you have any sympathy for civilians.

[Penny_Bags]

First off D3v, We want to get rid of the crude oil monopoly so Sally the soccer mom can drive her 9 little bitch kids around in her Expedition.

And secondly, don't worry about the weapons of mass destruction. We will find them 2 months before the election.

[Demosthenes]

First off D3v, We want to get rid of the crude oil monopoly so Sally the soccer mom can drive her 9 little bitch kids around in her Expedition.

And secondly, don't worry about the weapons of mass destruction. We will find them 2 months before the election.

More like 15 days before the election. We don't want to take any chances with the people forgetting about the president finding these weapons, now do we?

[Penny_Bags]

:D you have taken my point well.

[badboy]

You people must praise ignorance in your little "reality" but I care about the future and all the fuck you care about is yourself.

[Sovereign]

700 people, that's funny. How many died on D-Day, what, 10000? Let's see 700 in a year, 10000 in one day. ( Or you could compare it to 50000 in 3 days from Gettysberg. )

What the hell...?

You can't possibly compare the three battles casualties...

THe civil war was a period of time with no tech. They got within 50 feet of each other and shot balls of flaming death into each others ranks. THese were OPEN fields, usually with very little protection. You've seen civil war charges havn't you? I don't recall the Us military doing that in iraq...

D-day is an entirely diffent story. The US tried to take over a heavily defended beach over. They were going up against pill boxes, machine gun fire, small arms fire, artilery, ect. The took on little boats and CHARGED INTO THE GUN FIRE. I dont recall any mass landings occuring in iraq like this...

If your going to be an arrogant name calling contributer to this thread, badboy, at least learn to provide useful evidence. Nothing that happened in your aforementioned statements happend in Iraq, with the exception of the casualties and fighthing.

Also, knock it off with the "you're a moron", or "you're a fuckface". If you don't think that you can handle peoples opinions on this matter, and respond to them in a mature, adult, and level headed manner, shut the fuck up.

[Demosthenes]

What the hell...?

You can't possibly compare the three battles casualties...

THe civil war was a period of time with no tech. They got within 50 feet of each other and shot balls of flaming death into each others ranks. THese were OPEN fields, usually with very little protection. You've seen civil war charges havn't you? I don't recall the Us military doing that in iraq...

D-day is an entirely diffent story. The US tried to take over a heavily defended beach over. They were going up against pill boxes, machine gun fire, small arms fire, artilery, ect. The took on little boats and CHARGED INTO THE GUN FIRE. I dont recall any mass landings occuring in iraq like this...

If your going to be an arrogant name calling contributer to this thread, badboy, at least learn to provide useful evidence. Nothing that happened in your aforementioned statements happend in Iraq, with the exception of the casualties and fighthing.

Also, knock it off with the "you're a moron", or "you're a fuckface". If you don't think that you can handle peoples opinions on this matter, and respond to them in a mature, adult, and level headed manner, shut the fuck up.

Wow.

Ten letters.

[Penny_Bags]

Sov you owned him. Nice. But why no response to me?

Sovereign said:
Umm.... I don't care? I'm talking about the terrorists, and I'm sorry if I show absolutely no compassion for these murdering fuckheads.

I said:
And my point is that there is no possible way to take care of these "murdering fuckheads" without having service men or women in there taking them out. Bombs and napalm aren't the way to go if you have any sympathy for civilians.

[Sovereign]

I didn't respond to you because you very well may be right. Rage is clouding my judgement, and untill that clears up and I start to think logically again, all my posts would make me sound like some war monger.

[D3V]

And my point is that there is no possible way to take care of these "murdering fuckheads" without having service men or women in there taking them out. Bombs and napalm aren't the way to go if you have any sympathy for civilians.

Penny_bags, I'm sorry but you've got your facts mixed up totally. Ok lets see.

How many terrorists have we found in Iraq? =1 .. saddam hussien.

MOST of the terrorists and their organazations/bases are located in Saudia Arabia, turkey, libia. etc. Not fucking Iraq. Daddy Bush couldn't finish the job, and Dumass jr. has gone in the FOR NO REASON

We've actually lost close to 900 I believe. The 700 number was from like May.

Our government has lied to us, We are at war because... of ... WHAT? Somebody PLEASE TELL ME! PLEASE ! THERE IS NO FUCKING PURPOSE OF THIS WAR

Our service men and women have been dieing for no apparent reason. Why are we fighting the 'iraqis'. Because they have 'weapons of mass destruction' and they are a THREAT to us. Its bullshit, there are NO weapons of mass destruction, if there was they would have found them already. Its ridicolous how fucking stupid some people in this goddamn country can be, but then again, thats what our government is based upon.

[Randuin]

Whoops dee, one american kidnapped is one less retard in this world

[frickaline]

Whoops dee, one american kidnapped is one less retard in this world

Wow. I think you just won the Idiot-of-the-Thread award. Congratulations.

[badboy]

How as I owned, I didn't say they were the same thing, I was just implying how you people fucking complain about shit YOU DON'T KNOW and how we haven't lost a fraction of what has been lost in the past wars. So, in effect, this war is ran fucking GREAT and it is fucking fixing a war torn, oppressed society. If you don't even have the decency to fucking care about other people then don't respond to me again.

[Sovereign]

700 people, that's funny. How many died on D-Day, what, 10000? Let's see 700 in a year, 10000 in one day. ( Or you could compare it to 50000 in 3 days from Gettysberg. )

Then what was the point of this statement, badboy? Why on earth would you possibly bring this up. You are comparing the loss of human life during this Iraq operation to the casualties of these major war battles in a vain attempt to downplay the casualties.

Please stop whining.

[badboy]

You people are the ones whinning, I'm just showing how much of pussies you are.

[Demosthenes]

It doesn't matter what "fraction" of innocent lives have been lost, what matters is that fucking innocent lives have been lost over more or less nothing. You declare that there are WMD. There turn out to be none. This war should have never been fought in the first place.

[badboy]

You just proved my point, you don't care about other people, just yourself. Please, THINK!

[Demosthenes]

You just proved my point, you don't care about other people, just yourself. Please, THINK!

How the FUCK did I just prove that. Where in the world would you even get that fucking idea. Are you illiterate? I said it pisses me off when innocent people die for nothing? Please tell me how in the name of god you can twist that around to me being selfish you dense sack of crap. In your own words, "Please think."

[Titusfied]

Even if it isn't for WMD's, this war was still inevitable. I'm glad it happened, and I'm glad we got at least 1 dictating, maniacal, mass genocist out of control. Collateral damage is always expected, but it's never pleasant.

[frickaline]

Here's the lastest on this crisis.

-frick

Videotape shows kidnapped American
Gunmen threaten to kill him unless al Qaeda prisoners freed

Al Qaeda gunmen posted a videotape online Tuesday showing a man who identified himself as Paul Johnson, an American who works for Lockheed Martin and has been missing in Saudi Arabia since Saturday.

News Update on Saudi Kidnapping (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/15/saudi.tape/index.html)

[badboy]

How the FUCK did I just prove that. Where in the world would you even get that fucking idea. Are you illiterate? I said it pisses me off when innocent people die for nothing? Please tell me how in the name of god you can twist that around to me being selfish you dense sack of crap. In your own words, "Please think."

Ok, I'll lay it out for you since you can't seem to grasp it. You get rid of a tyrant that killed thousands of his own people, then you save lives. You get rid of a tyrant that hates us and wants us dead and has killed Americans before, then you save lives. You capture him and don't kill him, making him not a myrtar, you save lives. You get a country that has the potential to have a great average income, but is at a great low because of a dictator, then you save lives. There's no reason to help the Iraqies, and save lives, because as you say, there's no reason to be over there.

[Demosthenes]

All I'm saying is if thet don't want our help then it's not our place to give it.

[Sovereign]

Or if we must shove our noses where they don't belong, pull out as soon as the major threat is over.

[frickaline]

Or if we must shove our noses where they don't belong, pull out as soon as the major threat is over.

Well, but see, there is a problem with that too:

Iran massing troops on Iraq border

Beirut, Lebanon, Jun. 15 (UPI) -- Iran reportedly is readying troops to move into Iraq if U.S. troops pull out, leaving a security vacuum.

The Saudi daily Al-Sharq al-Awsat, monitored in Beirut, reports Iran has massed four battalions at the border.

Al-Sharq al-Awsat quoted "reliable Iraqi sources" as saying, "Iran moved part of its regular military forces towards the Iraqi border in the southern sector at a time its military intelligence agents were operating inside Iraqi territory."

[Penny_Bags]

Wow.... so if we move out, then Iran takes over Iraq... peachy.

[frickaline]

Wow.... so if we move out, then Iran takes over Iraq... peachy.

yes, and their Islamic fundamentalist government scares the bejesus outta me. If Iran tried to take over the oil reserves in Iraq, all hell would break loose over there.

Turkey wouldn't sit still for it, that's for sure. They have already stated that publically. And I am sure there would be other countries not far behind on that. Pretty sure this scenario would be darn close to WWIII.

-frick

[Penny_Bags]

That is fucking absurd.

[frickaline]

Muahahah!!! :fire:
Got what he deserved, I'd have to say...

al-Qaida Leader Killed in Saudi Raid

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - The leader of al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia was believed killed in a raid in the capital Friday, hours after his group claimed the beheading of an American engineer, Saudi security officials said.

News (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040618/D839MM880.html)