America...land of the insane

[Kuja`s #1]

http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/AmericanStateTerrorism.html

Check out all the stuff on that site and you'll never trust America again. I am even more disgusted at America than before. Jesus Christ, we're up there with Hitler. In my opinion, of course.

[Sovereign]

What a stupid, retarded, and biased website.

[!King_Amazon!]

Kuja, if you don't like America then you are free to not be in America. I'd rather be here than anywhere else.

[Demosthenes]

Why the hell would you leave some place simply because you don't like the politics there.

[!King_Amazon!]

Well he seems to keep going on and on about it like it's the most horrible thing in the world.

[Grav]

While some of that stuff is true, it's presented in a way that only serves to strip all credibility from that site.

[Neko]

From what I gathered, there are a few facts on there but they are so oversensationalized and fed with so much propaganda and extreme bias that the entire point of that site is null.

As far as America is concerned, it sure as hell isn't perfect but it is a wonderful country to live in, even with all the morons and bad politics. People also seem to forget the many, many good things America has done and instead tend to dwell on the lesser amount of tragic things in its history. If you believe this for real, you are a very gullible and easily swayed person.

[zagggon]

It's liberals that are the problem. Just take a look at what liberals have done to Canada...

[Kuja`s #1]

Conservatives are teh suck. Liberals.....Democrats....click my sig.


Well, I've been fed BS about America since I was a kid. Go to some of the pro-America sites and tell me the site you went to wasn't all the things you said about the site I made a link to.

[zagggon]

The reason no other country's like America is because we can and do KICK THEIR ASS whenever we want to.

[Neko]

Conservatives are teh suck. Liberals.....Democrats....click my sig.


Well, I've been fed BS about America since I was a kid. Go to some of the pro-America sites and tell me the site you went to wasn't all the things you said about the site I made a link to.

You are such a hardcore rebel. I'm sure you aren't affected at all by the anti-USA propoganda that you blatently proclaim.

Maybe your ideas will change when you start living in the real world.

[zagggon]

He is just being mind-controled by the deep left wing, Ima try to help him come to his senses, but it will take time.

[badboy]

Kuja, you have to learn, Liberal = Anti-American, Conservarive = Pro-American. If you hate America so bad, go live in a 3rd world country and then see what you have no reason to complain about here.

[Kuja`s #1]

Yes, simply terrible. Generations of people, hopless and suffering.

And American citizens, living in slums, for the middle to lower middle class who are living in a country totally dominated by capitalists. You don't have a future without cash. No college without money. No life without money. It's repulsive.

Thousands of Americans have hopes, dreams, plans of a family and a future. So few of them will realize this dream. 50% if not more marriages end in divorce and the country is in economic turmoil. This shouldn't be. America is the wealthiest country in the world, and yet we're not the lowest in polution, police brutallity or whatever. We're high in poverty, unemployment, everything. Why? Because we have an idiot for a president.

So badboy, FDR was anti-American?

[Demosthenes]

Kuja, you have to learn, Liberal = Anti-American, Conservarive = Pro-American. If you hate America so bad, go live in a 3rd world country and then see what you have no reason to complain about here.

Where the fuck do you people come up with this shit. Seriously, do you pull it out of your ass?

[Kuja`s #1]

Conservative rightwingers are like that. There are no neutrals. There is no compromising with the left wing. If you disagree with them, you're a communist/nazi/anti-american. It's insane.

[Neko]

Yes, simply terrible. Generations of people, hopless and suffering.

And American citizens, living in slums, for the middle to lower middle class who are living in a country totally dominated by capitalists. You don't have a future without cash. No college without money. No life without money. It's repulsive.

Thousands of Americans have hopes, dreams, plans of a family and a future. So few of them will realize this dream. 50% if not more marriages end in divorce and the country is in economic turmoil. This shouldn't be. America is the wealthiest country in the world, and yet we're not the lowest in polution, police brutallity or whatever. We're high in poverty, unemployment, everything. Why? Because we have an idiot for a president.

So badboy, FDR was anti-American?

This is such an ignorant statement that it's hard to find where to start.

Back when our country was founded, and onward until the dawn of higher technology, people had to WORK to make a living, whether it be immensly difficult farming or putting in 14 hours a day in a thread factory for 10 cents an hour.

If you claim a great many Americans are struggling in poverty, wake the fuck up. Life today is NOTHING compared to how it used to be. You cannot be denied health care. Almost all people have food or housing or at least access, and there a great, great many government programs to help you if you need it, as well as numerous charities. People do NOT have it hard at all.

I know that my ancestors, when they came here, did not sit around bitching about how the rich people dominated everything and crushed their puny dreams. They worked their backs off farming, and even though they weren't rich possession-wise, they supported themselves and their family through their efforts.

I'm tired of hearing all this childish complaining about how life is so hard. It ISN'T. Take a trip to someplace in Africa. A majority of people are HIV positive, there is virtually no employment and disease, death and poverty are the norm. I would say they have it bad. If you live in a house, have food and medical help, it's sufficient.

And you know the good part about capitalism? You earn how much you make. My parents have already told me if I want to go to college, I have to pay it off myself. I won't get any assistance from them. How will I get the funds I need for this? Working. Even if it is just McDonalds. People should really give it a try. If you want an education badly enough, you will find a way to pay for it.

But I suppose it really is Bush's fault. After all, he's so stupid that he's driven the US into a pile of festering garbage and poverty in four years, right?

[badboy]

So badboy, FDR was anti-American?

Yes, he was. Social security does nothing for the economy, nothing he did helped the economy get out of the Great Depression. World War II and deficeit spending helped the economy boost itself out. Expanded government doesn't help anyone. If you want to live in a socialist government where you depend on the government for everything, then go live in England. Yes, anyone can do anything. All you have to do is try. You don't need money to do everything, just alot of people are fucking lazy asses and relay WAY to much on the government to get their money for them. And what the fuck are you talking about unemployment is higher than ever. That's totally false, to my understanding it's near lower than it ever was. And the only reason the economy went bad was because of 9/11. Don't blame your false statements on a good president who has done nothing wrong.

[D3V]

Actually badboy, our economy going down wasn't because of 9/11. It was because of the fucking 800 billion dollar war. Yeah, we may have lost a few billion dollars from less people flying in planes, but that does not compare at all to the bullshit money we've spent on this idiotic pointless war.

How's about we stop messing with other countries. Our statue of liberty says to help the needy, poor, homless, and tired. But its US americans that are tired, quit fucking around in 3rd world countries for your fucking political image, and fix america. Then we can dominate, becuase were at a critical point in our nation.

[badboy]

You are so ignorant. You make up facts and expect people to believe them ? How about let's leave them alone like we had been for the fast 10 years or so and guess what happens, 3000 Americans die on American soil. Your going to have to deal with the fact that if you don't want a terrorist to come over and kill the fucking shit out of you your going to have to get rid of them on their own ground. What critical point, what the fuck are you talking about?

[D3V]

It isn't anybody's fault except the terrorist that flew the plane into the buildings. Our Airlines were not secure enough and they over took them.

You don't know what the fuck your talking about. MOST OF THE TERRORISTS COME FROM SAUDI ARABIA. We are In Afghanistan, and Iraq. Hardly ANY terrorists there that have any potential threat to america. Even in Afghanistan there isn't much threat of terrorism again the United States. We're only there to catch the Al-qaeda and they're not in iraq.

I was basically saying, bush has went and fucking done all the wrong things, his time is up, GET HIM THE HELL OUTTA OFFICE.

[!King_Amazon!]

We have sure caught a lot of them for them to not be in iraq buddy.

Poor people deserve to be poor. Everyone has equal chance in life(unless you are retarded or something.) Poor kids can go to public school and work their asses off(that's what this country is about) so they can get scholarships to go to college. There is absolutely no excuse I can think of for being poor.

[zagggon]

It isn't anybody's fault except the terrorist that flew the plane into the buildings. Our Airlines were not secure enough and they over took them.

You don't know what the fuck your talking about. MOST OF THE TERRORISTS COME FROM SAUDI ARABIA. We are In Afghanistan, and Iraq. Hardly ANY terrorists there that have any potential threat to america. Even in Afghanistan there isn't much threat of terrorism again the United States. We're only there to catch the Al-qaeda and they're not in iraq.

I was basically saying, bush has went and fucking done all the wrong things, his time is up, GET HIM THE HELL OUTTA OFFICE. Omfg you are a moron...

[Demosthenes]

Omfg you are a moron...

http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16650

[zagggon]

We all have our bad habits MJ, no need to harp me on mine. You make me sad :(.

[badboy]

I use to have a bad view of you zagggon, but I've found goodness in you. Gondgrats. D3V, don't you remember a little tape that Bin Laden released admitting he constructed 9/11, oh wait, you don't have your priorites straight in the facts department.

[D3V]

OMFG Your a stupid fucking twit. Yes I know fucking Bin Laden video taped himself and admitted it. I said that the fucking terrorists aren't in goddamn Iraq. We should still be in afghanistan.

I know that we shuld get revenge and step up our security and all that bs, but We shold Fix whats wrong in the states before we go around trying to make everyone elses life better.

[!King_Amazon!]

We have sure caught a lot of them for them to not be in iraq buddy.

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[slaynish]

Actually, I'd rather live in canada... True fact. ( Well, aslong as all my friends/important people i know moved up there with me )

[badboy]

Well, then go live in Canada because we don't want you.

[Slim]

I second that.

[Sweet Tooth]

why not just kick him down to africa, you know he'd love it.

[symnzXx]

why not just kick him down to africa, you know he'd love it.
how about get back on topic?

d3v is a misinformed liberal dipshit who listens to all of those sites, quite like the one that started this thread.