Berg execution was a FAKE?

[Acer]

I was reading this and it made me wonder....

http://genmay.com/showthread.php?t=354134

[Ganga]

Interesting.

[Sovereign]

Read about this a while ago. Still very interesting.

[Titusfied]

Well, there are some interesting points made in there, but I don't know exactly what he is getting at.

First, the Russian accents. What is he implying here, that Russians were the cause of this decapitation? What sense does that make?

I was, however, thoroughly interested in the decapitation article that shows evidence that he was already dead. I too would think that he would speak up, being as he knows Arabic, when he heard what was being said.

I was actually thinking to myself, "Man, if that was me, I would be like, 'Help me... please..' while this whole thing was going on." Then I thought, "Well, I wouldn't have understood what they were saying anyway, so of course not trying to speak out would be in my best interest."

But now that I know he spoke the language, holy shit, I would definitely be going nuts as they wer speaking, because I would have known death was imminent anyway.

Air Jordans and gold rings just made me laugh when I read it though.

Good read though. I went through about 6 pages of replies, then the server went busy. Good thing too, because I really didn't feel like reading 74 pages of replies...

[D3V]

If you listen to it he does scream and yell when he's being pushed over and cut into.

I doubt that its fake, even though the timing of it right after our inncident with the torchering of the immates was right on cue.

And Air jordans aren't just popular in america... they aren't even made there. I'm guessing they're stolen, or just bought from somewhere..

but the rings, the walls n shit, its all freaky.

You gotta think, if that video IS real, then how'd it get on the Internet? I doubt that those terrorists are going to spend their sweet ass money on digital camcorders , computer, and internet access.... oh well,

[Tyrannicide]

That guy makes a lot of good points leading to fake.

It is hard to judge and the Americans wont agree that it was fake, even if they now it is since it would bring attention back to them. (no offence)

[kaos]

It is fake you nubs, If you look closely right before they masked guys stop talking and push him over he yells but in the movie he isnt doing shit.

[Tyrannicide]

Thanx Mr. Obvious.

I figured it had the be a fake the first time outa many times i watched it.

[D3V]

He yells cuz he sticks a fucking knife into his throat you idiot.

[Thanatos]

Wow.. the US government fools the people again. They rule!

[D3V]

You would think they wouldn't kill an american who speaks arabic and has a beard.....

[Penny_Bags]

In my conspiratorial opinion, this was all planned out by the U.S. government in order to take the heat off of the U.S. and the torture issue. As if to say, "Well, they are terrible people, we are justified." ggpwnbai

[Tyrannicide]

In my conspiratorial opinion, this was all planned out by the U.S. government in order to take the heat off of the U.S. and the torture issue. As if to say, "Well, they are terrible people, we are justified." ggpwnbai
exactly.

So D3v, stfu.

[Adrenachrome]

I haven't seen enough evidence to accuse the US GOvernment of a coverup or conspiracy, all I've seen is enough to believe the story that came with the video is false.

than a bitch

[Tyrannicide]

WTF, u just pop outa nowheres dont u?

The evidence leans towards fake.

[Titusfied]

The evidence leads towards jack. The conspiracy theory leads towards it being fake, but everything else leads it to be real.

I'm going to watch it again and check it out more. If the U.S. wanted to cover its ass, we would have surely planted WMD's in Iraq, but we didn't. Who knows, that's why conspiracy theories are just that, theories, not facts.

[badboy]

I doubt that its fake, even though the timing of it right after our inncident with the torchering of the immates was right on cue.

Ok, the inmates being torchered was put out into the media sometime in Janurary. You people just didn't give a shit tell there was pictures.

[D3V]

Ok, watch the tape, You can see the picture of the guy , his face is glazed over, there is no way the tape is fake, The family of Berg has already stated their brother/son is dead, and maybe the story of the terrorists killing him in retaliation probably is fake, (thats what the us made up if anything at all) but in no way is the video fake.

And there is nothign justified about killing innocent people, even if they are bad, and they hate us, it doesn't give us a right to kill them.
And tyrannan00b you didn't even say anything, so stfu plz.

[Tyrannicide]

I said, it appears to lean towards fake based on some evidence, and other evidence leans it towards real. It will take a long time to find out what really happened if anything in that video was alterd.

It is a horrible death, but no worse then all the civilian Iraqes who were bombed and such.

[Sovereign]

Are you retarded?? Im pretty sure instantly being killed by a bomb is better then having your throat slit and head cut off.

[Tyrannicide]

Yes, but more Iraqes were killed by bombs then this guy being decapitated.

some of the bombed Iraqes survived with horrible wonds, like blown off legs or arms and torso's etc...which is just as bad as decapitation, atleast ur only suffereing for a few minutes, where the other way is for a lot longer.

[Penny_Bags]

The evidence leads towards jack. The conspiracy theory leads towards it being fake, but everything else leads it to be real.

I'm going to watch it again and check it out more. If the U.S. wanted to cover its ass, we would have surely planted WMD's in Iraq, but we didn't. Who knows, that's why conspiracy theories are just that, theories, not facts.Yeah I agree wholeheartedly. You would have to be an absolute moron to think that just because you came up with a conpiracy (like I did) that you are right. There is no prooving anything.... THEORY dickbag.

[Penny_Bags]

Yes, but more Iraqes were killed by bombs then this guy being decapitated.

some of the bombed Iraqes survived with horrible wonds, like blown off legs or arms and torso's etc...which is just as bad as decapitation, atleast ur only suffereing for a few minutes, where the other way is for a lot longer.Not many people suffer for a few minutes when being decapitated... chief... more like a few seconds.

[slaynish]

Not many people survive when getting their legs, arms, or torso blown off, either...

And if you were hit, your dead.. Its a fucking bomb, not a mine..

Btw, it doesn't matter when we killed them, we were at WAR ; we arent at war anymore; are we?

[Tyrannicide]

Not really at war, but still a lot of rebellion,if you wil, against the Americans over everything theydid. It was really for their own good.

Its hard to say about the video...at first it looked real, but then you start reading all kinds of stuff that make it seem fake. Lets leave it to the pros.

[Tyrannicide]

Yea, I was gonna put seconds, but I thought it may be to low.

People being blown apart dont die instantly either, if ur in the range u would die quick, but people could have been hit by flying objects(I.E. wood, steel) and impailed or limbs severed. They would die from blood lose...which takes a while, doesn't it?

[Penny_Bags]

Thinking isn't generally your strong point, you should refrain from doing it. That and breathing.

[Titusfied]

The family of Berg has already stated their brother/son is dead.


I actually don't think they were claiming the tape was a fake, but rather that Berg was already dead before he was decapitated.

[badboy]

I love how u anti-americans always say that were killing thousands of Iraqies by bombing them, just because you listen to the gay ass liberal news doesn't mean they tell you the truth and how does some percision bombs that miss and/or wrong target add up to a tole libel on an innocent americans decapitaion?

[Thanatos]

..Wait a second. How in the hell does a bomb not kill people? Why would the news lie about killing innocent civilians?

It doesn't matter if the bomb hits/misses the target it was intended for. The point still stands, it killed thousands of innocent people. I'd say that goes beyond an American decapitation by the sheer numbers alone.

[Titusfied]

Numbers, yes, it is worse. Practically speaking, its not worse. Decapitating someone on video and publically releasing it to prove a point is different than casualties that occurred from mistakes during war.

[Thanatos]

I agree with you in that decapitating someone looks worse than a misplaced bomb. You can't argue that one life is more precious than 2000. You just can't do it.

[badboy]

No, I just hate the fact that you can make them equal to each other in meaning. Cutting someone's head off and screaming to your Alah is alittle different that being mistakenly bombed.