Bush backs Gay Marriage BAN

[Ganga]

Now that's one thing he did right so far.

[Adrenachrome]

Marriage is based on religion, I havent seen any religion support homosexuality, therefore it would be sacreligious for any priest to marry any gay couple.

[LiveWire]

*-Shivers-*

[MarkiX]

Gays only want to get married for the benefits. It is not love to them its the money that gos to them when their lover dies. It is insurance benefits and ownership benefits. So not only are they fuckin fags they are greedy. So I am glad that Bush backs Gay marriage ban.

[LiveWire]

It's completly dissgusting to marry someone of the same gender,unless its a female :p

[MarkiX]

It's completly dissgusting to marry someone of the same gender,unless its a female :p

so then u are sayin lesbians are ok ............ i totally agree

[Jessifer]

Gays only want to get married for the benefits. It is not love to them its the money that gos to them when their lover dies. It is <A TITLE="Click for more information about insurance" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||insurance|AA1VDw">insurance</A> benefits and ownership benefits. So not only are they fuckin fags they are greedy. So I am glad that Bush backs Gay marriage ban.


...Do not comment on a subject in which you so obviously know little about, boy. It'll only make you look like a sheltered idiot.

Other than that...I will not say anything more than how ignorant this topic is to begin with. *twitch*

[MarkiX]

...Do not comment on a subject in which you so obviously know little about, boy. It'll only make you look like a sheltered idiot.

Other than that...I will not say anything more than how ignorant this topic is to begin with. *twitch*

Those that sympathsize w/ gays make me puke i will now act like there was not a retort w/ what is posted earlier

[LiveWire]

Those that sympathsize w/ gays make me puke i will now act like there was not a retort w/ what is posted earlier

I'll have to agree on this one. Lesbians PwN, Gays=Teh SuXors (literally) -pukes-

[Acer]

I'll have to agree on this one. Lesbians PwN, Gays=Teh SuXors (literally) -pukes-
Lesbianas are nasty too, if its for a turn on or just for sexual reasons and they are hot, I like... but if they like each other for real and shit that is just weird.

[khwiii]

Why the FUCK do any of you idiots care what anyone else does? This is so GOD DAMNED stupid. How can YOU be the person to tell someone else what they can or cannot do? It's like me telling Chrome that he can't smoke weed. If he doesn't harm me, or anyone else, WHY THE FUCK should it matter. I don't sympathize with gays. I just don't give a flying rat's ass about them being "married". If there is a God, let him deal with everyone his way. Becuase if you believe in God, shouldn't you NOT be judging people?

Ignorance. This place is overflowing with it.

Oh and...
Marriage is based on religion, I havent seen any religion support homosexuality, therefore it would be sacreligious for any priest to marry any gay couple.

That's why they would go to the justice of the peace.

[WetWired]

<A TITLE="Click for more information about insurance" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||insurance|AA1VDw">Where the heck did that come from?

[Penny_Bags]

Kwhiii.... my friend.

To allow something by law is to say that anyone and EVERYONE can do it. If EVERYONE was gay... there wouldn't be much reproduction... now would there? So basically, it is assanine to allow gay marriage... since marriage has two parts, love and reproduction.

[LiveWire]

I think its about time bush did something right.

[khwiii]

To allow something by law is to say that anyone and EVERYONE can do it. If EVERYONE was gay... there wouldn't be much reproduction... now would there? So basically, it is assanine to allow gay marriage... since marriage has two parts, love and reproduction.

Ok. i'm going to go easy on you. It is NOT illegal to smoke cigs, does EVERYONE do it? I can listen to some arguements, but this one is in absolutely NO WAY valid, anyway you look at it.

BTW, what about people who CANNOT have kids... Should they be married? Since marriage has *two* parts as you say...

[Vollstrecker]

I'd have to go with khwiii on this one. How could you be free when you're being restricted by laws that directly impact your personal life? You should be free to marry who you want, just as everyone (myself included) is free to express disgust at the thoughts of gay couples.

Even though I wouldn't do it, I wouldn't think of denying people what makes them happy.

[Thanatos]

It's in the bible. Want to be gay? Deal with the repurcussions.

[Sovereign]

Pft. having two gay people marrying each other does in NO way directly affect your life. Why the HELL are people making such a big deal. Its their life not yours. You have absoulutly NO RIGHT to tell them how they should live it.

[Acer]

Why the FUCK do any of you idiots care what anyone else does? This is so GOD DAMNED stupid. How can YOU be the person to tell someone else what they can or cannot do? It's like me telling Chrome that he can't smoke weed. If he doesn't harm me, or anyone else, WHY THE FUCK should it matter. I don't sympathize with gays. I just don't give a flying rat's ass about them being "married". If there is a God, let him deal with everyone his way. Becuase if you believe in God, shouldn't you NOT be judging people?

Ignorance. This place is overflowing with it.

Oh and...


That's why they would go to the justice of the peace.
What Adrenachrome said is right. They shouldnt be able to get married... if they want the rights then a Union or w/e it is, is fine by me.

[Titusfied]

Honestly, I'm glad that Bush sided that way. All moral reasoning aside, its just my fucking opinion that it is wrong. God didn't enable two members of the same sex to not be able to reproduce on their own for a reason. Gays weren't intended in historical perspectives, obviously.

Ignorance, shmignorance... I think gays are disgusting and immoral, no matter how little they effect my life. Cocaine dealers in Columbia effect me as much as a gay marriage in San Francisco, which is little to none. Of course this isn't the same for everyone, but in my case, it pertains perfectly, and there isn't anything anyone can say to refute that.

[Kuja`s #1]

He knows he's losing. This is a desperate attempt for votes.

[Penny_Bags]

And how would he "Know" he is losing..

[Titusfied]

His acceptance rating is lower than ever.

[Adrenachrome]

It's not that I'm against homosexuality, that is a part of life and should be accepted, what doesn't fit too well is marriage.

Besides the religion.

They say they want the financial benefits.. Why do they think they deserve it?
The benefits are for a couple that's going to provide for society as a married couple, point being procreation, the benefits are so the married couple can afford to properly raise children, No offense meant, but I really don't think same sex couples can provide both of the essiential elements to good child development, Mother and father. So that rules out the basis on wanting the financial benefits... or something like that.

[zagggon]

He knows he's losing. This is a desperate attempt for votes.
Kuja the "official" election has not even started yet and you say he is losing ? Your wrong anyways it just looks like he is losing because the queer democrates are picking their nominee thats all.... Bush is gona pwn that fagg Kerry..

[Jessifer]

Bush is an idiot if he even think's it has a small possibility of passing. It's completely unconstitutional. The government has no right what-so-ever to tell people who they can and can't marry. It's a decision between two adults who are in love with eachother, and no one else. If two people want to get married, it's their fucking choice. To put an idiotic ban on such a thing as Same-sex Marriages is prejudism.

...IMHO.

[Vince]

Why the FUCK do any of you idiots care what anyone else does? This is so GOD DAMNED stupid. How can YOU be the person to tell someone else what they can or cannot do? It's like me telling Chrome that he can't smoke weed. If he doesn't harm me, or anyone else, WHY THE FUCK should it matter. I don't sympathize with gays. I just don't give a flying rat's ass about them being "married". If there is a God, let him deal with everyone his way. Becuase if you believe in God, shouldn't you NOT be judging people?

1) Smoking weed is illegal almost everywhere in the US
2) Church and state are supposed to be separate anyway, therefore, "God" should not be a part of this. You don't have to be religious, etc to think that it isn't right. I'm an atheist, I'm against gay marriage.
3) It isn't really judging people. They're not imprisoning those that are married, they're just keeping them from being married in the first place.

4) Never say something is stupid because you dont' agree with it, it shows your immaturity.

Bush is an idiot if he even think's it has a small possibility of passing. It's completely unconstitutional. The government has no right what-so-ever to tell people who they can and can't marry. It's a decision between two adults who are in love with eachother, and no one else. If two people want to get married, it's their fucking choice. To put an idiotic ban on such a thing as Same-sex Marriages is prejudism.

...IMHO.
I just.. dont' agree.. with any of it..

(can someone tell me why this is unconstitutional?)

[Acer]

Bush is an idiot if he even think's it has a small possibility of passing. It's completely unconstitutional. The government has no right what-so-ever to tell people who they can and can't marry. It's a decision between two adults who are in love with eachother, and no one else. If two people want to get married, it's their fucking choice. To put an idiotic ban on such a thing as Same-sex Marriages is prejudism.

...IMHO.
Sometimes the constitution is unonstitutional IMO

[Ganga]

Stop telling me what to tell others to do, because you have NO RIGHT to tell me what to say, You are so Ignorance. :haha:

[Grav]

Where the heck did that come from?

I've called her on that before... she's got some adware shit. Heh.

[WetWired]

Actually, what he's calling for can't be "unconstitutional", because what he's calling for is a constitutional amendment, which would obviously rectify any such conflict.

Adrenachrome is right about the position of mariage in law. There's nothing stopping homosexual couples from having a mariage cerimony in a chuch that will allow it, and exchanging vows, plenty of homosexual couples do that already in states that don't allow homosexual mariages; the only thing this effects is their ability to claim married status on legal forms.

[Dan XIII]

Those that sympathsize w/ gays make me puke i will now act like there was not a retort w/ what is posted earlierI can't believe that anybody would deny the right for somebody to marry someone.Yes,gay marrieages are illegal but why?Is it because of religion or does the government discriminate against homosexuals.I don't care why they are illegal but if I was running things I would make same-sex marriages legal in every state and country.

[Titusfied]

Bush is like any human. Any human has the right to their opinion. It just so happens that Bush has the power and influence to make a difference with his opinion, whether us insignificant fucks disagree or not. Its a topic that people feel there is a debate to be had.

Fuck it. I know gays. My ex-girlfriend is a carpet muncher. I still think they are the dirt of the Earth. Opinions are opinions. There would be just as much controversy if he sanctioned gay marriages, than if he didn't, so shut the fuck up about it already.

Gays are generally not accepted, and to an extent, hated by the majority of people that don't accept it. This will always be, IMO, and if not, thats a damn shame.

[Acer]

I dont hate the Gay person as a person, but I hate the gay part of them... like I know someone who is gay and he didnt act like it... so I am fine with it. I dont agree with it, but let him be, but that is as far is I want it to go... Husband and Wife, nothing else!

[khwiii]

1) Smoking weed is illegal almost everywhere in the US
2) Church and state are supposed to be separate anyway, therefore, "God" should not be a part of this. You don't have to be religious, etc to think that it isn't right. I'm an atheist, I'm against gay marriage.
3) It isn't really judging people. They're not imprisoning those that are married, they're just keeping them from being married in the first place.

4) Never say something is stupid because you dont' agree with it, it shows your immaturity.


I just.. dont' agree.. with any of it..

(can someone tell me why this is unconstitutional?)

Wow.. ok.. let me break this down for you.

1-- That's my point. Why shouldn't anyone be able to smoke weed, as long as they aren't harming anyone but themselves. (This statement was directed more at Chrome then anyone else, since I know his stance on weed. )
2--Please, it isn't about God at all? Does your President go to church every week? Yep. Do you think his thoughts are influence by church? Yep. HELL he was a coke head until he "found" God.
3-- I'm sorry, but if you say "that's wrrong" you've judged that person. Bottom line. You don't have to be in court to be judged. This statement was directed at Christians anyway.
4-- I absolutely did not call ANYONE stupid. I said ignorance. Let's look up the definanition of ignorance.-- The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.-- Now how does that constitute me saying anyone is stupid? I am generally stating that they are uninformed about peoples rights.

And for your last question... You've actually answered part of it yourself, isn't there supposed to be a seperation of church and state? How then, if marriage is a religious ceremony, can the Govenment say it's not right? If this is a government for the people, of the people, by the people, then why is it "gay" people don't have as much as a chance as hetrosexual people?

[LiveWire]

I'm glad bush bans this shit. He has some big ass balls to go ahead and do something about it. And elections are comming on too. I have alil more respect on him now for this dear deviling move of his. BAN GAYS BAN GAYS!!!

[WetWired]

And for your last question... You've actually answered part of it yourself, isn't there supposed to be a seperation of church and state? How then, if marriage is a religious ceremony, can the Govenment say it's not right? If this is a government for the people, of the people, by the people, then why is it "gay" people don't have as much as a chance as hetrosexual people?
Actually, no; as I already stated, this isn't about a ceremony in a church, this is about a piece of paper that says you can indicate that you're married to the other person on your taxes, on job applications, etc. Do you really think that the fact that gay couples can't get that paper keeps them from having a wedding cerimony? I can tell you for a fact it doesn't.

[Rurouni Storm]

I say allow gay marriage, but don't call it that.

Also make it illegal for someone who is gay to keep rubbing it in other's fucking faces. That pisses me off to no end. Why the fuck do gays have to prance around and show off the fact? I don't see hetero couples having parades.

[LiveWire]

lmao. i hate that also. Waving there hands in the air all fairy like.

[Silverjinx18]

Marriage is based on religion, I havent seen any religion support homosexuality, therefore it would be sacreligious for any priest to marry any gay couple.

Yeah I watched...Conan I think last night and Damon Wayans was saying something about this...anyone else watch it...it was pretty funny...

I kinda hope that some ppl in that situation will do the right thing...

[Penny_Bags]

HEY! I've got a great idea!

Everyone that is considered wierd or different should be dealt with accordingly... like... perchance.... throw them in a furnace!! And we could have a perfect society!!

I think some guy did that once...

[Acer]

I'm glad bush bans this shit. He has some big ass balls to go ahead and do something about it. And elections are comming on too. I have alil more respect on him now for this dear deviling move of his. BAN GAYS BAN GAYS!!!
From what I heard, he is also trying to push the cause of the War onto CIA

[Vince]

4-- I absolutely did not call ANYONE stupid. I said ignorance. Let's look up the definanition of ignorance.-- The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.-- Now how does that constitute me saying anyone is stupid? I am generally stating that they are uninformed about peoples rights.



Why the FUCK do any of you idiots care what anyone else does? This is so GOD DAMNED stupid.

over the arrogance yet?
:p



ignore this part here at the bottom..for some reason it kept telling me my message was too short

[RoboticSilence]

Why the FUCK do any of you idiots care what anyone else does? This is so GOD DAMNED stupid. How can YOU be the person to tell someone else what they can or cannot do? It's like me telling Chrome that he can't smoke weed. If he doesn't harm me, or anyone else, WHY THE FUCK should it matter. I don't sympathize with gays. I just don't give a flying rat's ass about them being "married". If there is a God, let him deal with everyone his way. Becuase if you believe in God, shouldn't you NOT be judging people?

Ignorance. This place is overflowing with it.

That was beautiful, khwiii. I think gays should be allowed to marry just like anyone else. Love has no boundaries. I have nothing against gay people whatsoever and I even have several friends who are gay and lesbian.

[Dan XIII]

I say allow gay marriage, but don't call it that.

Also make it illegal for someone who is gay to keep rubbing it in other's fucking faces. That pisses me off to no end. Why the fuck do gays have to prance around and show off the fact? I don't see hetero couples having parades.That is another annoying thing about gay people.Why do they get their own flag in Lakewood?Are homosexuals more important than heterosexuals now?I don't see myself or any other heterosexuals here having a flag colored our favorite colors.One thing a gay guy did I know that pisses me off is they have a girlfriend and they are gay.He doesn't like her but she loves him.I want to kill him.I still think gay marriages should be allowed even though they get their own ugly flag waving in a city.I want to burn that flag because it isn't fair that other people don't have their own flag.I don't see African Americans,italians,russians,mexicans,germans or scottish people getting their own flags showing they are proud to be of their heritage.By now anybody who took the time to read my longest post ever should understand the points that I am trying to make.I will stop this long post now.

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[Penny_Bags]

Shinto I love you for that.

[Titusfied]

Fuck gays, and fuck lesbians, lets all burn them with matches.

Werd! That would certainly be the arguous death they deserve.

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[LiveWire]

you live in a 2/4 gay part of town.= 1/2
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Bi-Sexual Women are kool, dikes suck

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[LiveWire]

Shinto is funny!

http://www.initialz.com/pwn/HOORAY!.jpg

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[WetWired]

Whatever happened to JRWakeboard, anyway?

[LiveWire]

We can sit here and go at war with pics all night long, i suggest we don't.

[LiveWire]

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?p=246442#post246442

4-13-2003 was his last post =\

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[Sovereign]

Ah yes, that book written by ellie weasel. the nazi's also hated homosexuals! Bush doesnt want homosexuals to marry..hmm....(a vain attempt to get this thread back on topic....)

[khwiii]

over the arrogance yet?
:p

Over your ignorance yet? Funny how you forgot to mention all the shitty points you THOUGHT you had.

[platnum]

Marriage is based on religion, I havent seen any religion support homosexuality, therefore it would be sacreligious for any priest to marry any gay couple.

The church that I goto supports Gay couples. My church is part of the United Church of Christ (UCC). There are two gay couples that are members of my church.

Also there have been gay biships, etc.

[Randuin]

ABOUT FUCKING TIME, Next time on Dragon Ball <Insert random alphabet here>. USA Gets its fucking act together.

[Randuin]

You go to one fucked up church, you realize by doing that, you will all burn and rot in hell for all eternity right?