Unban insolence coalition. [Archive]

Bloodkrawller

2003-12-27, 07:28 PM

:fire:Hi peeps, long time no see. I haven't been posting for along time and recently I got really busy with work and the new year coming up. Anyways I came on tonight to find out that Insolence was banned. I read all of the posts about it and felt that maybe what is did was wrong but no reason to ban him. I mean think about all the people out there that get their accounts hack, deleted and such, probably some from right here in zelaron.com yet they won't say they did. Now as a few of you know, Insolence and I from day one, never got along (probably still don't). But I have to go with him on this one. First let me get some questions out of the way.

1. The most important one is the remark about having .sick pay money. Did Insolence have a patton on his idea? Was it legally binding that it was his and his alone?? HELL NO!! When something is made, produced, or created in anyway on net and it is given out, you cannot go back and charge the people cash just because they used or distributed it.

2. Is Insolence trustworthy?? Maybe only to his friends, but I don't know or care if .sick was or wasn't a friend of Insolence. Was or wasn't it doesn't matter because everyone in the Diablo world knows that in every case you always take a risk of losing your account when you deal with using programs or trusting unknown programmers. Granted Insolence admits to hacking the account password, But how many of you newbie players have run into another player and get suckered into giving up your account throught some sly story about they having to leave D2 and they wante you to watch their account for them?? My own sister on another game with her b/f got screwed over by one of his friends, simply cause he just one day decided to turn on them and he took everything and deleted their account, and this was on an mmorpg.

One is for sure with Insolence and I and that is I know where I stand with him. Frankly I think this was just another case of one guy whining about how he put too much trust into one guy and got burned, in which it happens in D2 all the time. So I ask one last time:

Do you think Insolence should be banned??

P.S. BTW admins, if you close the poll I will just start another one on my offical website. This is not a threat but I just don't like it when my threads are closed without my permission.

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-27, 07:32 PM

Signed my name.

BTW, Kuja, you know this thread is going to favor insolence, and that's the only reason you're going to close it. I know you'll close it. "The decision is final."

What a fucking nazi wannabe.

Demosthenes

2003-12-27, 07:34 PM

I sign my name as well.

P.S. BTW admins, if you close the poll I will just start another one on my offical website. This is not a threat but I just don't like it when my threads are closed without my permission.

Just on the side note...it is not your right to have a thread...it is here because it's your privilege. If the admins see fit to close it they do not need your permission to do so.

And even if you do post the poll on your official website...it has no say in here whatsoever. The admins decision is final, zelaron is not a democracy where you can change rules around here by posting. You can raise hell about it, and maybe it will change, but posting a poll alone and showing it to the admins will most probably not do anything.

Sovereign

2003-12-27, 07:49 PM

P.S. BTW admins, if you close the poll I will just start another one on my offical website. This is not a threat but I just don't like it when my threads are closed without my permission

I dont need yoru permission to close threads -_-.

How many of these threads have to be made? sheesh, ive stated my opinion once and ill state it again. If insolence can find a way to repay .sick for the deleted chracters and items, (minus some for the bot that .sick recieved) then i say unban him. Otherwise, he should stay banned. This is just my opinion.

apparently kuja closed the other unban insolence thread. My bad. Kuja DO NOT CLOSE THIS THREAD. Zelaron members have a right to voice their opinion even though it may not change anything

uncapped

2003-12-27, 08:54 PM

I think a box of Fruit Loops would more than make up for .sick's loss.

Sovereign

2003-12-27, 09:38 PM

Well at least its something...

Bloodkrawller

2003-12-27, 11:15 PM

:fire: Excuse me?? but did you say you don't need to have my permission to close my thread?? Ummm... I am not breaking any rules, and so long as I am not breaking them you have no right to close anything. I can make a hundred of these things so long as I am not breaking rules and you can't do anything about it cause I am just stating my point of view. Sounds to me like if things went your way as an admin, nobody could post anything unless if it's what you think is right. Sounds like conformity to me. Maybe you should be the one banned instead of Insolence because of "misuse of power"?? The whole point of messageboards and polls is to express your own point of view.

As for rasing a little hell to get things changed, it's it this thread the point of that?? If this poll shows that most people want Insolence back, then shouldn't the Admins take heed of that? I know I would if I was an admin. But hey I am not, so lets bow down to Sov's one track mind, cause we all know that everything Sov says is the right path of truth.

Aliens controling our minds??? HA, I think they mistook that for Admins, lolz!

Sovereign

2003-12-27, 11:24 PM

Notice how i said "this is my opinion". Nobody has to listen to it, nor do i expect anyone to. NEver did i say this is "the path of truth" or whatever.

How am i breakign rules? Im simply stating that i dont need yoru permission to close threads IF I SEE A NEED TO. i didnt say i was going to close anything. I dont see how thats abuse of power.... but whatever.

Also take a look at my edit from my last post. "zel members have the right to voice their opinions". As you can see i am FOR the making of this thread. So why you just started that rant i havce no idea.

Demosthenes

2003-12-27, 11:24 PM

Well...see chruser banned Insolence himself. As much as I disagree with chruser and even kuja on the matter, it is chruser's board and he can do as he see fit. Sovereign does have the power to close this thread. If it were to get filled with spam, or something else it is completely within his rights to close this thread. If chruser wants to close this thread he can...its his board no matter what you say. I dont agree with it...but you can't say that he can not do it.

Sovereign

2003-12-27, 11:26 PM

Yes yes back on topic to un-bannign insolence or this thread WILL be closed

Bloodkrawller

2003-12-28, 12:01 AM

:fire:God you guys are dense!!! Can't you guys tell what sarcasium is?? Yes let's get back to the unbanning of Insolence, which reminds me of one last thing, what does "closing a thread if you see if" having anything to do with Insolence?? All I was stating was that I don't like my post closed for now resaon, like the last poll was for Insolence, I was just making sure it wasn't closed like the last one was and that one didn't have any spam or anything in it. Just a Admin not liking how it was turning out. Sure Chruser has the right to do what he want's to his own board, but if he doesn't listen to the people he's building it for, he is going to lose members. Maybe not today, but someday.

But your right, this is about Insolence and so we shall go back to talking about just that.

Nuff said!

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 12:37 AM

Ban Insolence 0 0%
Unban Insolence 9 100.00%

Just thought I'd point that out.

Bloodkrawller

2003-12-28, 12:41 AM

Somehow I doubt 9 votes are going to change much right now, lets give it a bit more time than that eh king?? lolz

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 12:55 AM

Progress is progress.

Penguin

2003-12-28, 03:41 AM

Ban untill items given back.

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 03:49 AM

I believe some were sold.

Penguin

2003-12-28, 04:06 AM

Then he needs to use his personal money to buy the same items off ebay and then give the items back.

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 04:09 AM

Some characters were deleted too.

Penguin

2003-12-28, 04:17 AM

God why did i forget that again.... Ok yeah thats bad... >.<

Chruser

2003-12-28, 04:22 AM

Let's see, the votes are 9 for unbanning, and 0 to keep him banned. A member shouldn't be banned innocently, but there's a little something that disturbs me.

But how many of you newbie players have run into another player and get suckered into giving up your account throught some sly story about they having to leave D2 and they wante you to watch their account for them?? My own sister on another game with her b/f got screwed over by one of his friends, simply cause he just one day decided to turn on them and he took everything and deleted their account, and this was on an mmorpg.

So in other words, Insolence should be unbanned just because OTHER people can and will scam? How many people do you really think scam others on a constant basis? You see bots marching through channels a lot, don't you? Face it, there still aren't "that many scammers" compared to the amount of players in-game. And if someone trusts a close friend who still steals their items, I don't see a reason why this scammer shouldn't be punished if possible.

There's nothing personal against Insolence in this matter. It's just a matter of whether or not someone on Zelaron should be able to contact another Zelaroner, steal his account, sell his items and delete his characters, just to come back to the board and steal his forum account for whatever reason. If that's the kind of people you want on the forum, then go ahead, tell me to unban him and I will.

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 04:48 AM

Unban him.

-Spector-

2003-12-28, 07:00 AM

Adrenachrome

2003-12-28, 11:14 AM

Took the words out of my mouth Chruser.

I like Insolence, but I think his ban was fair.

But I recommend lifting the ban after a while, he's a good kid, I know he helped me alot..

Bloodkrawller

2003-12-28, 11:37 AM

:fire: Okay, you are misunderstanding me chruser. No offence to you chruser but I don't see why you would ban a person because of something that happens all the time. Okay, Insolence may be an umannered, fowl mouth jerk, but this is the first time I have heard of him doing something like this. So Chruser you are saying that if I were to say break into King's account, steal his stuff and change the password, you would ban me just cause I did this once, not even considering the reasons why? Just that the act was done? That because you see less people getting hacked or deleted, that gives you the right to ban him for doing it once??Okay maybe that's a little far gone but what i am saying is you have got people on one side saying that he wouldn't do it but then you have got people on the other side saying he would. He admits to it but doesn't that count for something. It's not like he hid it from you and lied about it.

Like I stated before, him and I have never gotten along, I would be more of an enemy than a friend to him. I have nothing to gain from this, nor do I want to. I just don't believe that you should ban him so quickly . Yes I believe that he should be punished, but banning him? Can't we restrict him from doing certain things on the board or something, and if he does it again, then we ban him? Or can't we just ban him for a certain period of time, like a month or two? Because I don't think you should ban one and not the other, I think you should ban .sick too. Why you ask?? Well Insolence was the one to hack and delete, but from what I hear .sick went out and distributed Insol's bot program without his permission.

Bloodkrawller

2003-12-28, 11:39 AM

Sorry, my last post was finally done after A-chrome posted. Damn slow-a" comp. lolz

Titusfied

2003-12-28, 11:45 AM

Well, I think that the fact that he used Zelaron to get someone else's account information, just so he could steal their items and delete their characters is more than enough to warrant a ban.

I also think that since he did fess up to this, wasn't trying to pull a smoothy on anyone, and got his bot distributed in the process, that maybe a Permanent Ban is not in place. I do feel as though he should be banned for a good amount of time, just not permanently.

Bloodkrawller

2003-12-28, 11:50 AM

Then maybe we can agree upon a temporary ban if Chruser agrees to it? Maybe a moderator can fix the poll to add a new choice of Temp Ban on it?? See if maybe people will agree to that??

zagggon

2003-12-28, 12:55 PM

Ban untill items given back.

-ice-

2003-12-28, 01:01 PM

ban him, maybe he will get a life then -_-

Chruser

2003-12-28, 03:14 PM

:fire: Okay, you are misunderstanding me chruser. No offence to you chruser but I don't see why you would ban a person because of something that happens all the time. Okay, Insolence may be an umannered, fowl mouth jerk, but this is the first time I have heard of him doing something like this.

Oh, so because something happens rather often now, it should be justified and okay? If people started to get murdered at five times the rate of today, should the penalties for the crime be lowered "just because more people do it"? Sorry, I don't buy your reasoning at all.

So Chruser you are saying that if I were to say break into King's account, steal his stuff and change the password, you would ban me just cause I did this once, not even considering the reasons why? Just that the act was done?

First off, the fact that .sick passed the bot on has not even been proved, only claimed. And frankly, yes, I would most likely ban you for doing something like that. If you murder someone, does the reasons WHY you did it really matter? Insolence deleted .sick's characters, so getting him to undo his sins isn't the easiest of things to ask for now.

That because you see less people getting hacked or deleted, that gives you the right to ban him for doing it once??

Once again, why does other people's actions justify his? He did wrong, now he pays for it. Personally, I'd ban every scammer from this board who's ever used Zelaron to scam someone. In fact, I'd want to ban anyone who spends time ruining other people's gameplay by stealing their accounts, whether or not they have used this board to establish contact.

I want this board to be as safe as possible and NOT scammer-friendly? What about you?

Demosthenes

2003-12-28, 04:20 PM

This is str8 from insolence:

1) He contacted ME through my clan thread, we met, became friends, we met before i even thought about making an autoit bot.

2) I did not 'sell' his items.

3) I stoled his tals armor, and soj, so he could not even try to use my bot any more, i did not scout his mules for items.

4) He taunted me, and frankly, was an asshole after i stole his shit 'HAHA you stupid fag, you didnt even check the mules and take the other 2 sojs and shako i had!', so i deleted his 2 chars (which he always complained about sucking anyway)

5) I did not TRADE my bot to sick for his account, i gave it to him as a friendly gesture

6) He gave it to his friends, he threatened to sell it unless i gave him the 'right version' (he thought i sent him one that would purposely mess up, just to make him angry)

7) He would not stop complaining about the bot, and just plain bothering me.

8) He stalks my friends, he pked eellis when him and my friend were doing hell ancients for me...

9) He has more then enough items (or so he claims: 2 sojs, shako) to get tals armor back, and mf another soj.

10) I will NOT repay him for his items, i did what I thought would stop him, and it did.

11) Since HE contacted me before i even started the bot, i did not use zelaron forums to steal his account.

12) I did not change his zelaron password, thats a lie.

13) I did not use his zelaron information to get his account.

14) ZELARON WAS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY/SHAPE/FORM.

15) I did not ask people to support me on this, everyone who has done it, has done it by their own will, and i appriciate your help :-)

16) As i said, it was not my intention to delete any characters, but he taunted me into it.

17) Also, to add as a funny side note, I checked his yahoo email account, and it was full of pictures of men (various poses, hair styles, and less clothing then you would think)

Titusfied

2003-12-28, 04:49 PM

Hah, now that is pretty funny. There are always other sides to the story, so this should be taken into consideration, and why not.

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 04:54 PM

:fire: Okay, you are misunderstanding me chruser. No offence to you chruser but I don't see why you would ban a person because of something that happens all the time. Okay, Insolence may be an umannered, fowl mouth jerk, but this is the first time I have heard of him doing something like this.

Oh, so because something happens rather often now, it should be justified and okay? If people started to get murdered at five times the rate of today, should the penalties for the crime be lowered "just because more people do it"? Sorry, I don't buy your reasoning at all.

So Chruser you are saying that if I were to say break into King's account, steal his stuff and change the password, you would ban me just cause I did this once, not even considering the reasons why? Just that the act was done?

First off, the fact that .sick passed the bot on has not even been proved, only claimed. And frankly, yes, I would most likely ban you for doing something like that. If you murder someone, does the reasons WHY you did it really matter? Insolence deleted .sick's characters, so getting him to undo his sins isn't the easiest of things to ask for now.

That because you see less people getting hacked or deleted, that gives you the right to ban him for doing it once??

Once again, why does other people's actions justify his? He did wrong, now he pays for it. Personally, I'd ban every scammer from this board who's ever used Zelaron to scam someone. In fact, I'd want to ban anyone who spends time ruining other people's gameplay by stealing their accounts, whether or not they have used this board to establish contact.

I want this board to be as safe as possible and NOT scammer-friendly? What about you?

I openly admitted to stealing someone's gunbound account a few days ago, do I have immunity or something?

Chruser

2003-12-28, 05:38 PM

I openly admitted to stealing someone's gunbound account a few days ago, do I have immunity or something?

No, you don't. Did you establish contact through Zelaron?

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 05:45 PM

No, he doesn't visit Zelaron.(at least from what I know, I got the password from Kaos, and I don't know who the guy is, so if he does visit Zelaron it's not something I know.)

But, you know either way that I could scam someone here at Zelaron, so ban me now bitch.

Sovereign

2003-12-28, 05:47 PM

No, you have not broken any rules, and zelaron was not part of this scamming deal. No need for a ban.

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 05:49 PM

I've scammed Zelaron members before, so I could do it again, so YES, ban me.

Demosthenes

2003-12-28, 05:54 PM

Why are you trying to get banned so bad KA?

Demosthenes

2003-12-28, 06:06 PM

Insolence asked me to add this:

No, you have not broken any rules, and zelaron was not part of this scamming deal. No need for a ban. HE established the connection with me, so wait, what rules did i break, and he did not?

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 06:10 PM

I just wanna get banned because I'm getting tired of getting away with stuff others don't.

Sovereign

2003-12-28, 06:12 PM

Apprantly you (insolence) used to boards in some way to scam .sick. Now im not to sure on that. Im just tryign to recall what kuja was telling me when i refused to bad you -_-. !K_A! got his gunbound account in an unrelated matter to zelaron. OR so it seems. He didnt use the boards to get it. Apparently you did, but again im jujst goin off what kuja said in an i.m.

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 06:14 PM

I said I've scammed Zelaron members before, did you not read that?

Sovereign

2003-12-28, 06:28 PM

Show me one instance where you are in violation of the rule, and ill temp ban you, since you seem so insistant on it..

Titusfied

2003-12-28, 06:30 PM

He was always punished for the shit he did in the past. I really don't understand him sometimes though. When he doesn't get banned, he "brags" that he gets away with so much shit that no one else does, but when he is banned, he bitches about it to Chruser until he gets reinstated...

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-28, 06:46 PM

I don't remember ever getting punished for stealing from Zelaron members, and I'm not bragging.

D3V

2003-12-28, 07:33 PM

I know why you haven't been banned yet K_A.......

Because your sig and avatar have black guys on it, and if you were banned that would be racist, and zelaron.com would be looked on as a nazi racist white supremisit website.

Maleficus

2003-12-28, 07:49 PM

im trying to understand why people actually care, iv been reading these boards for a long time...he seemed too arrogant to be important

eellis2132

2003-12-28, 08:32 PM

Okay... here is the fucking story.

Insolence got tired of phallus_ (.sick) begging for the bot, so Insolence gave him the current WORKING version of the bot and made him promise he wouldn't tell anyone he used the bot, who's bot it was, or give it out to ANYONE. phallus_ had problems getting the bot to work, mostly because he had Windows 98, and AutoIt doesnt work for Windows 98. The first problem was that the bot would login and just sit in the chat room and then reload, over and over again. Then he installed Windows XP and ran it again. This time the problem was that his Sorc. kept trying to revive his already-alive mercenary, which put it in a continuous, nonstop loop. Then he complained to me and Insolence about it not working, so he gave it out to 3 of his friends that play D2 (he told me 3). That violated every rule Insolence gave him. When he told me this, I told Insolence, because I am the main beta tester and I don't want the bot privacy jeopardized. Insolence got mad and couldn't talk to phallus_ because he was offline, so I said "What can we do to punish him?". We thought for a few minutes, and then I came up with the idea to get his account PW and do something that would make him regret what he did with our trust. I didn't say delete the characters, I didn't say take any items, I just said what I wrote above. Take note, about a week before, JOKINGLY, Insolence had sent phallus_ a key logger type program and got phallus_'s account PW and JOKINGLY changed his PW. He gave the account back without any harm done. Now, going on, the mercenary reviving bug was easily fixible, because it happened to me in the latest bot update. Insolence had to send me a file called Color_Fixer.exe, which made our codes for something the same. So Insolence proceeded to send phallus_ the same file, but keylogged. About 5 minutes after giving it to phallus_, Insolence IM'd me and told me he got the PW to the account. About 5 more minutes later, he IM'd me and told me to come to game game//pw. I went in and he gave me some stuff, one item was a Arachnid's Mesh. After he gave me the items, I got off D2 and talked to people on AIM. About 10 minutes later Insolence IM'd me again saying that the PW was the same to phallus_'s regular account and his dueling account, and also his Yahoo Email, but did NOT work on his Zelaron account. He also said that phallus_ used the PW recovery thing Blizzard installed to get his accounts back. I didn't know he deleted the characters, he didn't tell me.

I don't think he should be banned for 2 reasons.
1.) He is a good guy, and this happening had NOTHING what so ever to do with Zelaron Forums or Website.
2.) phallus_ (.sick) is a beggar and very annoying and sought "revenge" on Insolence and this is the only place he could think of where punishment would be given to Insolence and to make sure the punishment insued, he threatened to spread stories of this happening and make the boards look bad in other poeple's eyes.

But keep in mind that I TOTALLY understand what the Mods had to consider to go through with this.

Valmar

2003-12-29, 02:08 AM

Damn dude... thats fuckin... deep..

Kuja

2003-12-29, 07:13 AM

This is str8 from insolence:

1) He contacted ME through my clan thread, we met, became friends, we met before i even thought about making an autoit bot.
Thread on Zelaron.

2) I did not 'sell' his items.

I, .Sick and Chruser have screenshot that prove otherwise.

3) I stoled his tals armor, and soj, so he could not even try to use my bot any more, i did not scout his mules for items
How does this make .sick not send the bot to everyone ?
Insolence has less logic then a chicken without it's head.

4) He taunted me, and frankly, was an asshole after i stole his shit 'HAHA you stupid fag, you didnt even check the mules and take the other 2 sojs and shako i had!', so i deleted his 2 chars (which he always complained about sucking anyway)

So justification of what happen after explain what was done before ? He cannot predict the future yet his reason would almost be like he did. His logic as so many flaw i cannot even imagine how stupid insolence must really be.

5) I did not TRADE my bot to sick for his account, i gave it to him as a friendly gesture
Sure a gesture that steal account. This is way to friendly for me. If this is what his friendly gesture are i dont even want to know what happen with unfriendly one.

6) He gave it to his friends, he threatened to sell it unless i gave him the 'right version' (he thought i sent him one that would purposely mess up, just to make him angry)
Oh, sure. First insolence THINK the bot was given. 2nd, no one would send a non-working bot to someone else. 3rd, insolence stole his account.

7) He would not stop complaining about the bot, and just plain bothering me.
So cause you dont like someone it is allowed to break the rule ? Again, the logic brought from this is even lower then a sheep capacity.

8) He stalks my friends, he pked eellis when him and my friend were doing hell ancients for me...
Even if this is true or not. Being mad at someone is a justification for breaking rules ? No.

9) He has more then enough items (or so he claims: 2 sojs, shako) to get tals armor back, and mf another soj.
So being jealous is a justification to steal ? No

10) I will NOT repay him for his items, i did what I thought would stop him, and it did.
Lol, he did what would make anyone mass distribute.

11) Since HE contacted me before i even started the bot, i did not use zelaron forums to steal his account.
Insolence did talk about his bot on zelaron and it is how .sick found out. If i said i had a program that other would want on zelaron i would get pm or aim message for sure. Scamming ppl would not be more allowed. As i would have advertised my product on Zelaron.

12) I did not change his zelaron password, thats a lie.
True or not. It does not justify anything he did.

13) I did not use his zelaron information to get his account.
Again, Insolence did talk about his bot on zelaron and it is how .sick found out. If i said i had a program that other would want on zelaron i would get pm or aim message for sure. Scamming ppl would not be more allowed. As i would have advertised my product on Zelaron.

14) ZELARON WAS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY/SHAPE/FORM.

Do i need to repeat it a 3rd time ?

15) I did not ask people to support me on this, everyone who has done it, has done it by their own will, and i appriciate your help :-)
It wont change jack.

16) As i said, it was not my intention to delete any characters, but he taunted me into it.
oh, so he did it by mistake ? his mind is so feeble that he lose control of it and some sort of deamon take over ? What a joke.

Insolence is a joke. His reason make no sense. He scammed and got what he deserve.

eellis2132

2003-12-29, 11:08 AM

You are a joke. Why were you made a mod again?

!King_Amazon!

2003-12-29, 11:21 AM

You are a joke. Why were you made a mod again?

Kuja

2003-12-29, 11:38 AM

The joke is on you. You agreed and understood why he was gonna be banned on aim. You even told me yourself when we talked on aim that maybe you should check the bot to see if it was safe. You openly admited and in that way supported the ban of your friend insolence.

On the forum you show that you support insolence.
In truth, you helped proving his ban.

You even started to doubt how legitimate the bot you had was.

eellis2132: well, maybe sick should learn to scan stuff b4 running it
l TranceKuja l: i scanned it
l TranceKuja l: and it detected nothing
eellis2132: really?
l TranceKuja l: yes
eellis2132: heh
l TranceKuja l: i have it on my comp
eellis2132: hmm
eellis2132: maybe i should check the bot then
l TranceKuja l: see what i mean ?

In my eyes your even less then insolence. It's just to bad you didnt break any rules. He is suposed to have been your friend for over 2 years and you backstabed him.

eellis2132

2003-12-29, 11:50 AM

no, i told the truth, he told me to tell the truth, he knew i told the truth, anything else you have that is self-opinionated that you want me to correct?

edit: then i learned that the reason he was banned was b/c you thought he used Zelaron to get his account. Zelaron was not involved in any way to get .sick's account

eellis2132

2003-12-29, 12:15 PM

rofl dood, he knows i told the truth
i didnt backstab
you're just too concieted to understand it
and if i backstabbed someone ONLINE, so what?
its a fucking computer, im not going to live my life in utter turmoil for it

Kuja

2003-12-29, 12:21 PM

Thx for showing how much you care about ppl and how much you should be trusted.

Bloodkrawller

2003-12-29, 12:59 PM

But I have been reading and if my memory serves me right, didn't you guys say that Insolence "did" admit to chruser that he did steal or hack into the account so to speak ?? Or was my mind just wandering on that and I was just daydreaming it. And what you are saying to me chruser is if I stole king's account (sorry to use you again buddy) in your messageboard, I would be punished. Yet at the same time if I were to do it to King on some other game and/or messageboard that may or may not be in relation to D2 at all, you wouldn't punish me?? I know that I might be a little annoying right now with all these questions but it sounds like to me what you are saying is Your the sheriff (granted you are the creator of the messageboard) and nobody gets away with anything in your town, however if you do it in another town you will still get punished here too?? Sorry i am just trying to figure out your logic on this chat to make sure i don't go breaking a rule on every other chat i am on.

Bloodkrawller

2003-12-29, 01:04 PM

Not trying to double post and break a rule but on another topic i never expected this thread to go this far, I figure I might get a few posts and votes but nothing this big. It just shows me that maybe this issue hasn't been fully explored.

Umpc

2003-12-29, 06:37 PM

You are a joke. Why were you made a mod again?
ive noticed this too, you were cool before you were modded but now that you are you are a complete dick

Demosthenes

2003-12-29, 06:39 PM

From Insolence:

Again, Insolence did talk about his bot on zelaron and it is how .sick found out.
Um no, he was on my friends list, he overherad, and BEGGED me to give it to him, but he didnt have the requirements. Also, how the fuck would you know this? Moron, dont even try to flame me gook.

I did not send a virus/keylogged version, it simply sent me the password, and restarted his computer... nothing to 'harm' him in any other way...

I did not sell his items, either, wtf, show me this 'evidence', gook.

So being jealous is a justification to steal ? No Jelous? I hardly play. Is being jelous (I have much better items then you, gook) enough reason to ban?

-Kuja, dont try to FLAME me, try to reason it out, i dont want to beat the shit out of a gook, and end up looking like D3V.

Kuja

2003-12-29, 07:45 PM

How funny. It did harm him as he lost items/char. I dont have to prove myself to a banned user. The only person i had to prove it to was to chruser and he has the evidence as well. I know all that happened unlike almost everyone that been butting in stuff they dont know. Insolence did wrong and got what he deserve. As for flaming. I dont lose my time flaming banned user. Mostly when he is in a more pitifully situation then D3V. Insolence claimed he did it and it wasnt bad cause he had more. This is being jealous.

As for the "i got better items" just prove how imature insolence is he doesnt even know anything about my *items*. Hell, he never even seen me on bnet. It would be just like a pre-school kid saying "My father is better the yours!"

As for you mjordan. Insolence is banned which mean he shouldnt have anything on zelaron. There is also that his insult will not be tolerated more if it's you saying them for him.

zeal311

2003-12-29, 11:59 PM

Kuja, you have poor english.

Sovereign

2003-12-30, 12:18 AM

I will try to translate, for lack of a better thing to do at this moment:

"How funny. Insolence did hurt .sick in a way because .sick lost his items and characters. I do not feel i have to proove my actions to insolence or anyone else for that matter. The only person i had to convince was chruser. Chruser now has teh evidence that i saw as well. As for flaming (who i dont understand), i have better things to do with my time then flaming users that have been banned. What he did in this situation puts him lower then d3v.

He (insolence) has no basis for saying that he has better items because he has never seen me play on battle.net.

As for you mjordan, now that insolence is banned he should have no say in zelaron. Any more of his insults coming from you mjordan, will not be tolerated anymore, assuming that it is coming from insolence

I think thats what he was trying to get across...