Favorite FF Villain?

[Raziel]

I'm expecting this thread to be flooded with Sephiroth, but he's most certainly not MY favorite villain. Kuja from FF9 was the most vicious antagonist the Final Fantasy series ever had. The dude destroyed all four of the largest kingdoms on the planet, killed Queen Brahne after manipulating her for his evil plans, enslaved the entire Black mage race, and BLEW UP HIS HOME PLANET. No villain in Final Fantasy history can compare with that.

[mightychicken]

what are you on??? Kuja and seymour are both rip-offs of sephiroth. THEY HAVE THE SAME LOOK, JUST DIFFERENT COLORS. *ahem* sorry. but yeah, only sephiroth gets the originality credit.

[Kahr]

Sephiroth...

but if it were open to all squaresoft games i would say:
Kahran Ramsus from Xenogears.

[Raziel]

Originally posted by mightychicken
Kuja and seymour are both rip-offs of sephiroth. THEY HAVE THE SAME LOOK, JUST DIFFERENT COLORS. *ahem* sorry. but yeah, only sephiroth gets the originality credit.

I beg to differ. Seymour was just a lame villain, with a stupid haircut, and Kuja looks nothing like Sephiroth. Just because he has long hair does not instantly equivocate his appearance to Sephiroth's. And character design is only a minor issue, I'm talking about who was the more EVIL villain. Sephiroth killed Aeris, killed President Shinra, killed some crewmen on a sealiner, and summoned Meteor. Not really very impressive. Comaring that to the HORRIBLE atrocities Kuja committed is like comparing Al Bundy to Ted Bundy. Sephiroth just does not stack up in the evil department.

[FuRy]

Either Sephiroth or Sin...

[Chruser]

Kefka!

[Raziel]

Kefka would definitely be my second favorite.

[RoboticSilence]

I do thik Sephiroth was bad-ass... but I agree with Raziel, Kuja was pretty damn evil. And Kekfa would have to be on he list as well. :0wn:

[Boomerang]

I know no one has said this, but i think that Seifert from FFVIII was pretty bad. Even if he was under control, he was still really good at pissing people off. That and the reason he was an awsome swordsman. Man, I wish I had a friggin' gunblade.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

I hate seymour... his voice is gay, his face and body is fucked up. And uh... i donno if u count this as a villain but Beatrix in FF9? She is a cool villain. Sephiroth... got to be my favourite, Kuja was kinda of girl looking person but he wasnt bad and the 2 optional bosses in FF8 called Ultima Weapon and Omega Weapon was cool.

[Raziel]

I couldn't stand Seymour either. The guy that did his voice has to be one of the lamest voice actors I've ever heard.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Originally posted by 245029
I know no one has said this, but i think that Seifert from FFVIII was pretty bad. Even if he was under control, he was still really good at pissing people off. That and the reason he was an awsome swordsman. Man, I wish I had a friggin' gunblade.
um... i dont count Seifer as a villain cuz the character was only made to make Squall have a rival... and he sucks all the way(His attacks and crap... the best he could do is like 5000 dmg to u, he should have some attacks that can knock out a party member in one shot like Squall... kickass Lion Heart 100 000 dmg baby!)... i wish i could use him as my party member, then ill be able to fix him up and make him and Squall the ultimate party... cuz he was pretty cool when i controlled him for the field SeeD exam.

[mightychicken]

Originally posted by I)ark_Pheonix
I hate seymour... his voice is gay, his face and body is fucked up. And uh... i donno if u count this as a villain but Beatrix in FF9? She is a cool villain. Sephiroth... got to be my favourite, Kuja was kinda of girl looking person but he wasnt bad and the 2 optional bosses in FF8 called Ultima Weapon and Omega Weapon was cool.

yeah, if beatrix counts, she's pretty high up there in my book

[Raziel]

Beatrix was a badass. I loved the few fights you actually got to use her in.

[HLomegasin]

I think SIN is bad and ugly!

[I)ark_Phoenix]

sin isnt really a boss... or a villain... its just an armor of the real sin, which isnt called sin i forgot wut its called... but all the final fantasy X villains, i thought sucked ass.

[Raziel]

I completely agree. They could have done FAR better than the shit crop they used in that game.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

i just hope FF XI and FF XII is far more unimaginable then all of the ff there is so far~ grrr they better, or ill kill em all... who? square of course... how? hmmm never thought about that yet... get back on this lata.

[HLomegasin]

They should set the plot in somewhere different, and sometime different, too. You know what I am talking about?

[Boomerang]

i don't know about the plot. most of them are about love anyway.

[Raziel]

FF6 wasn't! And it was the second best one!

[HLomegasin]

I knew it...I think the next one should be war on terrorism....hehe, just kidding~

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Starting from FF7 they started including love stories in FF games... which wasnt really bad cuz of the combination of fantasy, ramance and etc.

[HLomegasin]

yup yup. but I think they do need some change you know!!! Big change!!!

[Boomerang]

yes. definitely. i love all FF games, but nowadays i have no time to play them. that, and i broke my playstation because it started making funny noises.

[Raziel]

Meh. The love theme is okay, as long as the entire plot doesn't hinge entirely on it. WAY too much of FF10 was absorbed in the "love story" aspect. And in FF8, Squall was just too big a piece of shit for the "romance" to even work for about 90% of the game. It was well balanced in FF7 and FF9, though.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

I would like to see a FF game, plot taking place on EARTH where we are... but much higher technology... i think it'd be cool.

[mightychicken]

Originally posted by I)ark_Pheonix
I would like to see a FF game, plot taking place on EARTH where we are... but much higher technology... i think it'd be cool.

that's basically what the games are now, an earth-like planet with more technology.

[Raziel]

Actually, what Phoenix is asking for is basically a video game version of the movie.

[mightychicken]

Originally posted by Raziel
Actually, what Phoenix is asking for is basically a video game version of the movie.

oh. i definitely would NOT want that.

[Randuin]

i guess i'm kinda late... but... sephiroth!

[I)ark_Phoenix]

I just started Disc 4 on FF9 and i noticed something... GO TRANCE KUJA!!!!!!!!!!

[mightychicken]

Grand Cactaur!

[BlueCube]

Hmm... Kefka from FF3 (US). I loved that laugh of his...

[The FINKTER]

im sorry raziel but i like sephiroth the best.he was sort of a wimp though he doesnt fight his own battles for himself jenova does but man she is hard as hell to kill

[Raziel]

No need to apoligize, I just don't like Sephiroth very much. He wasn't really evil. A very uninspired villain.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Originally posted by mightychicken
Grand Cactaur!
Grand Cactaur isnt really a villain but he is an interesting optional boss in FF8... he pretty hard to beat also...

[ZeroX]

I liked Sephiroth...Too bad he had to die :(

[Raziel]

Surprise surprise.

[ZeroX]

It would have been so cool to control him thru the whole game...

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Hehe, but u no, he IS the whole game's boss... although i seriously wished there would be at least gameshark codes for looks of sephiroth instead of cloud or others.... Cuz he looks cool, he is evil(cool lol), and he is really strong... well, come to think of it... usually all the bosses are suppose to be stronger then ur characs... thats y u have like 3 characs for the battle hehe.

[Raziel]

Actually there are character battle modifier codes on www.gscentral.com that will allow you to use Sephiroth during battle instead of one of your other characters.

[ZeroX]

0.o I dont see it on there

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Pfff me neither... maybe we are a lil blind but anyway, i dont have gameshark for ps1... i only have it for ps2 so it woulda been nice if i had one and used it to modify...

[Raziel]

Hmm...maybe they got rid of them. I could SWEAR they still had those modifier codes on the site.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Ah well... those codes usually screw up ur game anyway... thnx for the effort though raziel!

[Raziel]

Wait, I found the page with the modifier codes. They work, but you have to have the toggle option enabled on your Gameshark, because the codes have to be turned off before you load your save. At the bottom of the page are the character modifier digits. They tell you the numbers for all of the regular characters as well as Young Cloud and Sephiroth. I knew they still had these posted.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Bah, confusing...o_O

[ZERONX]

they all are cool

[Raziel]

Yeah, the codes really are pretty unnecessary and way too complicated. But, they do the job, if you really want Sephiroth in your party that badly.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

not really.. .lol i rather beat his ass then getting him on my team.

[Medieval Bob]

Ultros was definately the BEST Final Fantasy villian EVER!

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Ultros....? Where is he from again?

[Raziel]

FF6. He was the purple octopus that you had to fight about four times.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

o of course... ive only played FF6 once and i didnt get far.

[Medieval Bob]

DP, you've only played FF6 ONE TIME and you "didn't get far"
WTF? FF6 is the BEST FF game of all time.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

pfff i disagree wit that lol I liked FF9 and 7 thats all... well, if u count Chrono Trigger as well, then i like chrono trigger too.

[Raziel]

FF6 was the SECOND best. FF9 takes the crown.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

9 was really good and the ending scene just rocked... i wanna beat the crap out of necron again and see the movie or download it on kazaa... phew that was the best movie scene ive ever seen on ff series.

[Raziel]

I thought the ending for 9 was the best one in the series too. What level were you at when you beat Necron, Phoenix?

[I)ark_Phoenix]

LOL very low... all in between 60-65... but goddamn necron was fucking easy. Even Trance Kuja was harder than him...

[Raziel]

Yeah, I was about the same level. Did you ever try taking on Ozma? I couldn't fucking beat him.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Omfg that guy was hard... i tried him out once and he just killed me in 3 shots hehe... but that was way back when i was lv40s~ So i might try it out again...

Oh, yea Raziel, did u get the Pumice for Sarah?(Dagger) She learns Ark from it... u can get the pumice if u have 2 of the pieces from the sythesizer Hades... optional boss in Memoria... remember him?

[Raziel]

Yeah, Hades wasn't too hard actually. Harder than Necron, but still not really a big deal. Ozma was just a nightmare, though.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Uh, Hades was damn easy... easier than Necron... you see, NECRON actually HIT ME, unlike HADES... WHO COULDNT DO SHIT ON ME... didnt even attack... i just wooped his ass... without getting hit even once... he was so fucking easy and ppl say "its a hard optional boss but its worth the fighting"... its not THAT worth it... the only reason its good is cuz u can get Ark which isnt THE best... just long and cool movie scene not much dmg... but more than other edilons of course... but hades was a HUGE surprise for me.

[Raziel]

I forgot about that. Hades doesn't actually attack you for quite a few rounds and then after a while he uses one nasty attack that will damn near fuck your entire party. Usually it's fairly easy to beat him before he even uses the attack, though.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

hehe i killed him in 3 turns... that means one turn per character. So that also means i didnt use one of my charac.

[Raziel]

Not bad. It's been so long since I played the game last time, I can't remember how quickly I beat him.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Hehe... i need to play FF7 and beat it first... then im gonna wait for FF11 and Kingdom Hearts whichever one comes out first... and beat those. And lets see... gotta wait for FF12, 13, 14, 15, 16,17,18 ,19 ,20 etc etc... I hope they just keep coming out and out. Non-stop... but u no RPG can get boring cuz u are just doing the same thing over and over except they have different stories and shit... so it would be nice if 12 has some difference when its made or even out... i dont quite no anything about FF11 so i hope that has some difference from other RPG games also... except for the fact that its online.

[Raziel]

You HAVE to finish FF7. The game is unreal. Not quite as good as FF9, but still REALLY cool. I was kinda disappointed with FF10, and I'm not into MMORPGs so I'm not really looking forward to FF11. I'm REALLY excited about the Final Fantasy game coming out for Gamecube, though. It's gonna be awesome! I just can't remember the title.

[Raziel]

OH! Final Fantasy Unlimited! That's the name. It just came to me.

[Sum Yung Guy]

i beat ozma, had to wait till my 70's to do it tho

[Raziel]

I stopped trying after a while. I wasn't in the mood to gain fifteen more levels in order to beat him.

[Raziel]

Hey, what does the green slimy exclamation mark icon next to this thread mean?

[Sum Yung Guy]

it means the thread is sticked at the top

[Raziel]

Does a thread being "stickied" have any actual significance?

[I)ark_Phoenix]

well, u sticky a thread if its popular then most of the other ones and if a thread is useful its stickied... unlike the old threads... stickied threads just never get old and stays at the top of the forum. Now, back on topic.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

bah, i dont bother playing FF9 anymore and lvl up 10 times to woop that Ozma... it doesnt give u much stuff anyways so its not worth it.

[Sum Yung Guy]

ive almost found every card for FF9, you know you have to beat Ozma for the Ozma card.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

yup... all i need like about 10 more cards to complete my collection... but ozma... its not worth it... in my opinion.

[Sum Yung Guy]

im missin like 2 or 3 cards, after that then you gotta make sure EVERY single card you have has arrows pointing in diff directions if you wanna aquire the highest rank, thats a pain in the ass

[I)ark_Phoenix]

thats true... bah i only got like 7 cards that has all the direction arrows... but how could u get all directions for the rare cards(edilons, equipment, ships etc.)... i mean it doesnt keep coming to ya after u beat the crap out of monsters. So i think its like impossible to get EVERYSINGLE card... but the normal monsters i could prolly get. Just a matter of time.

[Maraach]

Sephiroth sure is the best!!!

[Raziel]

Originally posted by Maraach
Sephiroth sure is the best!!!

WHOA! Breaking from the mold, I see. Caught me TOTALLY off guard there.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

hoy hoy, he just posts something that is WAY off of our discussion and shouts it out ehehehehehe.

[Sum Yung Guy]

Whos Sephiroth?

[I)ark_Phoenix]

The game boss in FF7 and also the sweetest villain in the whole FF series... (he even kills one of the main characters in FF7 *cough AERIS cough*)

[Raziel]

Kuja was FAR cooler. He DESTROYED HIS HOME PLANET. Sephiroth killed a few people. No contest.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

well, Kuja looked so feminine... thats one thing i hated about him.

[Raziel]

Pah. I think the fact that he looked like a sissy, but could still kick unholy amounts of ass made him even cooler.

[Sum Yung Guy]

i was just kidding about Sephiroth heh

and yes i agree Kuja is far better... just that when it showed the cgi of him getting on that dragon and flying away... i thought he was a she for sure

[I)ark_Phoenix]

heh, but he was cool when he becomes Trance and blows up his home planet. Pretty cool cut scene too.

[mightychicken]

Originally posted by I)ark_Pheonix
well, Kuja looked so feminine... thats one thing i hated about him.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

i guess that means thats one of ur hatings about Kuja... welcome to the club...:D

[FuRy]

My favorite FF villian would have to be Sephiroth from FF7....

[I)ark_Phoenix]

well then i think there IS a competition between Sephiroth and Kuja... hmmm i think im gonna go make a poll~ :)

[Double Edged]

Seifer for some odd reason :rolleyes:

[I)ark_Phoenix]

well i dont think he is much of a VILLAIN... cuz he is just a rival for Squall he isnt EVIL i tell ya. He is kinda twisted and cocky thats all.

[Raziel]

Seifer was a SISSY. He was EVERYBODY'S bitch in that damn game.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

heh, but i would have liked it if i could use him as a party member, instead of using it just once on that short SeeD field-test that you do and it aquires seifer on ur team.

[Raziel]

I hated Seifer. He reminded me of a spoiled rich kid that pouts and throws a tantrum when he doesn't get his way.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

ugh, one thing i hated most was his gunblade... Squall's was way good looking than his...

[NonGayMan]

My favorite villian would have to be Sephiroth. He killed Aeris (for good in a cut scene) and I was putting alot of time in training her so then I had to use Tifa for a while.

Yeah, I hated Seifer too, he always acted like a stuck-up little boy.

[Hell Hound]

i like the omega weapon in ff8 but their r like 3 or 4 omega weapons in the games lol but the graphic in ff8 was the best

[NonGayMan]

The FFX graphics were good too.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Originally posted by nosebleed
i like the omega weapon in ff8 but their r like 3 or 4 omega weapons in the games lol but the graphic in ff8 was the best

actually, there are only one omega weapon in the whole series and its FF8... there was a bit of Ultima Weapon in the series but not Omega. And Ultima Weapon(FF8) looked cool compared to any other Ultima Weapons... for instance FF10's Ultima Weapon... looked just humongous and stupid... and he was TOO easy unlike Ultima Weapon in FF8.

[VComegasin]

Actually the Omega Weapon is just a sub-mission boss, you beat them. You level up and get something good. I think the best Ultimate Weapon I will ever fought is the "Ultimate Weapon" in Final Fantasy 7. You have to beat him twice, baby. After you beat him, you get an "Ultimate Weapon" for Cloud, and you can access to the mountain and get the Summon Monster- "Typhoon".
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Ultimate Weapon: 9999 one hit, equip with hit-all...damn...:)

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Actually, u dont get exp from Omega Weapon in FF8, and yes it is a sub-boss but he is still worth it. You get this tutorial on Omega Weapon and Three Star(i think) when u beat him. He is an extreme boss and is harder than Ozma in FF9.

And welcome back HLomegasin AKA VComegasin... tch lol

[VComegasin]

Originally posted by I)ark_Pheonix
Actually, u dont get exp from Omega Weapon in FF8, and yes it is a sub-boss but he is still worth it. You get this tutorial on Omega Weapon and Three Star(i think) when u beat him. He is an extreme boss and is harder than Ozma in FF9.

Though I never fight the Ultimate Weapon in FFVIII, I suppose it is really hard. and can you please explain what are the three stars for? I really want to know~

[!King_Amazon!]

Kefka (or ultros if he counts)

[I)ark_Phoenix]

Originally posted by VComegasin


Though I never fight the Ultimate Weapon in FFVIII, I suppose it is really hard. and can you please explain what are the three stars for? I really want to know~

You get the last GF, Eden from Ultima Weapon, so therefore no matter how hard it is to beat him, you MUST beat him but remember to Draw the GF from him. But Ultima Weapon is nothing compared to Omega Weapon... you can fight him before the last boss and i tell ya, you are really a good RPG gamer if you beat Omega Weapon... i died in 2 shots(2 years ago and i dont play the game anymore) :( it sucks cuz u cant absorb his magics and it does massive dmg and he gets like 5 chances to attack before u even attack once... sheesh. But he is possible to be beaten and itll be some experience when someone actually does beat him... itll be fun too :)

and Three Stars' description would be GF learns Expendx3 ability and if u use the ability called Time Mag-RF in tutorial section, you can get 100 Triple(magic) from it.

[Rurouni Storm]

Kefka all the way, but Golbez was kind of cool, too, especially with this origins.

[Rurouni Storm]

Originally posted by I)ark_Pheonix

But he is possible to be beaten and itll be some experience when someone actually does beat him... itll be fun too :)


I beat him. It's a waste of time. BTW, you can kill him with one move, get Selphie to lvl 99 (not 100 or she'll be killed in his first attack) and use her limit "The End". Buh bye, "Omega" weapon.

[I)ark_Phoenix]

how can u use her limit break that easily... its really hard to get it to appear before she dies..

[Kuja`s #1]

Mine is Kuja. You might say "duh" but I have good reasons. Kuja blew up a planer! oTHERS HAVE KILLED AND OPRESSED BUT NONE OF THEM BLEW UP THEIR PLANET. Sephiroth wanted to but even he failed. They all have failed where the great Kuja has succeded.

[Cerridwen]

Sephiroth RULES. He's just about the most EVIL villain in the entire FF series, and Kujah and Seymour don't even come close. Plus, he's the original silver-haired god who does not need Pantene every single day just to get those glorious tresses. Imagine it if those 3 were all locked in a death match...HMM. Who would win and who would lose?



:noid:




As for Ultima and Omega Weapons in FFVIII...oh, I dunno. I skipped Omega Weapon and headed straight for Ultimecia. Not because I'm scared, it's because I can't seem to find that thing in her castle. And...why is it I can't back out the orphanage anymore?! NOOOO~~~~!!!!



:confused:





I hated it when I fought Ultimecia (the last incarnation). I had Squall do 2 Lion Heart Limit Breaks on her and she's STILL standing! And to add insult to injury, she gets defeated by a measly blow from one of my party members (one ALWAYS dies) o_O





Is there any way I could get back to any of the lost Chocograph treasures once the Iifa tree bursts its roots all over Gaia? And how can I get to the Choco Paradise (the one with this huge cave underneath a small island)? I'm still in my blue Chocobo form.




Kujah may be twisted, but he still got his twisted personality from Sephiroth. It was based on it, anyway. Sephiroth wanted the entire planet to blow up into smithereens using Meteor! Now how EVIL can you get?!





What's up with THAT~~~?!

[Kuja]

I realy dont see Sephiroth like a villain. http://www.rockmanvortex.com/starnik/pictures/biopics/sephiroth.gif

He supposed to be FF7 villain sure but i see him more like a misunderstood soldier that follow the path he beleive in.

He was just fighting like any soldier for his master that he loyal to and it's master Jenova. All he did was for jenova not for himself he was a soldier plain and simple.

So i dont see how can anyone even dare to compare him to any REAL villain.

Kuja destroyed all four of the largest kingdoms on the planet, killed Queen Brahne after manipulating her for his evil plans, enslaved the entire Black mage race.

Well kujahttp://www.murasaki-tenshi.net/ff9/kuja.gif is my favorite villain but there is more evil maybe not as strong but deff. more evil.

I present you Kefka !http://homepage.mac.com/cyberskull/.cv/cyberskull/Sites/.Pictures/IGN_Icons/FF6-Kefka_Laughs.gif-thumb_140_105.gif

Kefka a Reckless, Crazy Mad Man ! This guy enslave, poison, destroy everything to destroy it again as ppl rebuild and Got *Sand in his boots!* He is The Most Evil !

http://ff6.guide.free.fr/graphisme/PSX_pics/Kefka2.jpg

[Raziel]

The difference between Kefka and Kuja is that Kuja was completely sane and in control of all of his actions when he commited his vile deeds. Kefka was nuts. He couldn't help it. It's like the difference between premeditated murder and temporary insanity. One is downright evil, the other is uncontrollable and habitual. That's not a justification for Kefka's deeds. He was still an evil threat to the world, but it certainly makes him less consciously evil.

In addition to that, the awful acts Kuja commited were far worse than anything Kefka ever did. Kefka set Figaro Castle on fire, Kuja obliterated Alexandria. Kefka enslaved the Espers and drained them for their magical powers, Kuja created the Black Mage Race, enslaved them and made them murder one another. Kefka re-arranged the face of the planet, Kuja destroyed a planet. Pound for pound, Kuja was the more evil of the two. The things he did were more damaging, more violent and more heartless than anything Kefka did, and he did them all consciously and willingly. Kefka was a victim of psychosis.

[Cerridwen]

For one thing, both Sephiroth and Kujah were misunderstood souls. And both of them thought they were rejects! Well, Sephiroth was the ultimate form of the Mako-infused SOLDIER and he was confused as to why he was SO different from others....even as a child, he always knew he was different. But his idea of his own uniqueness shattered when he found out he was just a test subject. And HOJO DID THAT TO HIS OWN SON~~~~!!! ~o^****

Kujah was a Genome that was supposedly perfect except for one thing...he wasn't immortal, and he suddenly had a mind of his own to break away from his creator Garland. He didn't want to become an unwilling puppet with no soul in his creator's hands, that was why he took it to himself and destroyed them all. He created the Black Mage army. And then, Zidane appears and makes Kujah even more uncertain of his existence. What's a guy to do in those CIRCUMSTANCES?!

Seifer was just totally disturbed. He's used to bending people to his own will, and he has those Garden Disciplinary Committee members to back him up in whatever stupid thing he did. Makes me want to kick his face with my boot. Yup, he definitely makes up for the "snobby rich kid with a problematic attitude" recipe.

Oh, and Seifer's Gunblade looks like a sort of a rapier. The way he holds it, he's some sort of fencer. I guess he really is one rich kid. ^o^

[Raziel]

Sephiroth wanted the entire planet to blow up into smithereens using Meteor! Now how EVIL can you get?!

That was the most evil thing he attempted throughout the entire game and he failed at it. The only other worthwhile "villainous deeds" Sephiroth commited were killing Aeris, President Shinra and Tseng, setting Nibelheim ablaze (not even realy destroying it, just setting it on fire) manipulating Cloud and freeing the WEAPONS. That was about all he actually did. He just wasn't terribly "evil" in my opinion. He let Rufus act more like a heartless villain than him. That's pretty lame.

[Kuja`s #1]

How many times do I have to tel you guys? SEPHIROTH WAS A PUPPET! He is nothing. Jenova controls his mind. None of his actions were independent. He is just a scared little boy as Sorceress Edea or Ultamecia would say. Sephiroth is a puppet. But this is only fact #1. Onto #2

He wanted to rule the planet. He wanted to be a god. Blowing the planet up was something that Jenova hid from him. She let him think he was going to be a god, but all he would do is kill himself.

SEPHIROTH IS NOTHING

[Cerridwen]

Yup, a poor puppet! Poor him! More reason to sympathize with the guy. He's not evil, just misunderstood. But what's a guy to do in those kind of circumstances...? That's why he and Kuja are the same.

But Sephiroth wasn't totally nothing. Jenova just made him crazy as to think he was the god above everything else. He pulled that thing off its life support, right?! He wanted to believe that he was alive. Good thing too, Jenova was rather beginning to get on my nerves.

[Kuja`s #1]

Well he was tough. I didn't beat him for some time.

[Cerridwen]

He was REALLY tough the first time I met him, but it was otherwise manageable. It's just his Pale Horse spell that's REALLY annoying.





"Touch my hair and you will DIE~~~!!!" - Sephiroth

"Only if you promise to stop using my Vidal Sassoon..." - Vincent

[Juggalo]

ok....
FFX villains suck...

Kuja...He was pretty mean and evil....but hes a man with a thong come on...

FFVIII...Sucky Villains...

FFVII...Sephiroth...KICKED ASS...He was evil...mean...and played with your mind...

Kefka...Fuckin Lunitic...Poisened a towns water just to see what would happen...

So my Favorites are...Sephiroth and Kefka

[Kuja]

How many times do I have to tel you guys? SEPHIROTH WAS A PUPPET! He is nothing. Jenova controls his mind. None of his actions were independent. He is just a scared little boy as Sorceress Edea or Ultamecia would say. Sephiroth is a puppet. But this is only fact #1. Onto #2

He wanted to rule the planet. He wanted to be a god. Blowing the planet up was something that Jenova hid from him. She let him think he was going to be a god, but all he would do is kill himself.

SEPHIROTH IS NOTHING


Nowhere in game it say Sephiroth is under Jenova control and if you remember there is a protective shield you gota go throught when you go to beat sephiroth he would have been safe and what he wanted wasnt to rule ! It was to be one whit the planet.

You just always seem to make up thing as you go whitout caring much for whatever the thing really are...

Sephiroth chose his side.



Kuja...He was pretty mean and evil....but hes a man with a thong come on...

What your saying is just plain stupid it s just like if i said.
Omg your sig got some pink in it ! Your a fag !
Serious try to say something that make sense.

[Medieval Bob]

ULTROS

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ULTROS

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ULTROS

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ULTROS

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ULTROS

"According to Square's book Final Fantasy Origins: Final Fantasy VI an octopus was the main character of Square's first game ever. Square decided to reintroduce the octopus in Final Fantasy VI (released as Final Fantasy III in America.) During production one of the programmers told Amano and Sakaguchi that it reminded him of his a purple toy octopus he had as a child named "Orthros" (probably short for "Orthoceras", a prehistoric ancestor to the modern octopus.) They decided to apply the name and color or the toy to the character. "Orthros" was later translated to Ultros." (http://www.ultros.com/about.html)

However, Square's first game was 3D World Runner. I can't find much information about it, so I can't validate that statement. As far as I can tell, the guy on the box art is the main character.

[Kuja`s #1]

Kuja, just looked at his actions? He was not evil at all until he found out about Jenova. She manipulated his mind, like he told Cloud could've done to Tifa's mind. He posessed her cells, thus was a slave to her power.

[Raziel]

Kuja`s has a point. Nobody would logically say "What the fuck? I was a test tube baby?! I will destroy everything in the world!!!" Once Sephiroth knew of Jenova's presence in his body, she began to exert influence over him. Not control. Influence.

[Kuja]

Thats not true.
He was a boy crying for his mother.
He knew he was diff. from other.
And he found out they abused of HIS MOTHER !!
Remember the experiment in the tube (those weird monster) ?
Thats when he got mad and took Jenova out !

Tell me how would you feel if someone abused of your mother and would use her as a lab rat ?
And what would you do if you had the power to make them pay ?
Thats how it started.

[FINAL AEON]

Sepiroth was the coolest villain as he killed the one person u really cared for. Kefka is second best. Ultros is quite good too. The worst one is ultemecia she just came out of nowere

[Kuja]

Ultimecia didnt come out of nowhere she was the one controlling Edea, Rinoa and adel.

[Raziel]

Zemus came out of nowhere.

[Kuja`s #1]

Adel was cool... I'm trying to find a pic of her, but the site I had lined up just got kicked of f the web or something. Oh well, Seymour was pretty shizzle. I hate ibonix.

[Raziel]

You mean Ebonics?

[Kuja`s #1]

Yeah, I heard it on TV. I didn't know how to spell it though.

[Dan XIII]

You mean Ebonics?it is spelled ebonics like the color ebony =black.My favorite villain is Kefka because I like to make fun of how he laughs.hehhehhehhehhehheh!

[Kuja`s #1]

Slo?


Kuja and Seymour rule!