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KagomJack
2003-11-29, 10:55 PM
on same-sex marriage?
Demosthenes
2003-11-29, 11:00 PM
do what u want...just not newhere near me...or where i can c it
KagomJack
2003-11-29, 11:02 PM
you said what a friend of mine just said when I asked him that question.
Sovereign
2003-11-29, 11:03 PM
I dont give a shit what they do just keep me out of it.
KagomJack
2003-11-29, 11:05 PM
well, i'm against it, on very many grounds: Personal and Religious.
DaFrigginDoctah
2003-11-29, 11:09 PM
I could give a rat's ass.
KagomJack
2003-11-29, 11:14 PM
I kinda figured you'd say something like that DaFrigginDoctah
Thanatos
2003-11-30, 10:37 AM
I dont give a shit what they do just keep me out of it.
rusher657
2003-11-30, 02:36 PM
No no no no its wrong and nasty gay guys are nasty oh my god I hate gays.
Allowing ppl to proceed even more with their psychological disorder ?
Thats stupid. If they dont want to be fixed. They should be shot.
Penny_Bags
2003-11-30, 03:32 PM
Allowing ppl to proceed even more with their psychological disorder ?
Thats stupid. If they dont want to be fixed. They should be shot. Pure genius. Good work Kuja.
Chruser
2003-11-30, 04:04 PM
I'm a militant atheist. Age, morals and religion shouldn't determine your boundaries; only your own ability to deal with things should be what ascertain whether or not you should be allowed to do what you want. Age limits for various things, such as having to be at least 18 to 21 years old (depending on your location) to drink, are just set to legally prevent people from becoming alcoholics before they, for instance, reach their teens.
Some say sex before marriage defies God, not to mention it can lead to unwanted pregnancy. The first part is ridiculous, but the latter is always a risk you encounter, whether you're married or not. If you're 12 and want to have sex, then go right ahead, but you better damn be aware of the fact that having sex with a condom will get someone pregnant approximately 5% of the time. This is a relatively high risk, which "fortunately" exists all thanks to sloppy people who can't use a condom right. But that's a whole different story.
In conclusion, have sex whether you're ready to. Who gives a fuck about marriage? Whether you're 12, 22 or 62 and can't do it right, you shouldn't be doing it at all.
Jessifer
2003-11-30, 04:24 PM
Asking a question such as this is as dangerous as asking people their views on abortion.
I personally am all for same-sex marriages. If two people fall in love with each other and want to be together forever, who has the right to stand in their way?
I think that Gay marriage should be disapproved.
I know that there is lots of controversy about it, but when we do this it just allows gays to act more obnoxious than before. They always bitch about being prosecuted for being crossdressers and bullshit, and in utah people get arrested for having same sex. Thats Great! Throw their gay asses in jail, who gives a shit, they will really get ass-banged in there.
I think that lesbians are disgusting. No, not www.lesbians.com or whatever but real lesbians. Not the ones you may see on a website, but the nasty, wrinkly, harley-riding tattooed to hell beer stenched women. Woman power! They have so much bullshit on their side. They go on about how they are 'Independ Working Women' and shit, but allowing them to get married just gives them more power, and that should not be allowed.
RoboticSilence
2003-11-30, 05:55 PM
The only thing I hate are "Womyn"... ignorance is not they way to live.
KagomJack
2003-11-30, 07:25 PM
I think that Gay marriage should be disapproved.
I know that there is lots of controversy about it, but when we do this it just allows gays to act more obnoxious than before. They always bitch about being prosecuted for being crossdressers and bullshit, and in utah people get arrested for having same sex. Thats Great! Throw their gay asses in jail, who gives a shit, they will really get ass-banged in there.
I think that lesbians are disgusting. No, not www.lesbians.com or whatever but real lesbians. Not the ones you may see on a website, but the nasty, wrinkly, harley-riding tattooed to hell beer stenched women. Woman power! They have so much bullshit on their side. They go on about how they are 'Independ Working Women' and shit, but allowing them to get married just gives them more power, and that should not be allowed.
I agree with you. (Just because I can't help it, but it's Independant)
zagggon
2003-11-30, 07:27 PM
The Ultimate Fagg Fest=San Fransisco...
Sovereign
2003-11-30, 07:29 PM
Ah welcome back zagggon!! i See your posting habits havnt changed either!! However true it is that homosexuals are very frequesnt on San Fran (or so it seems), there are many other places. Lets not stereotype gay marrages with California.
Eddie_Perez
2003-12-01, 04:50 AM
I am the Denominator!
Raziel
2003-12-01, 06:02 AM
I'm fine with it. Personally, homos don't bother me. One of my best friends is gay, and he's one of the coolest guys I know. Yes, gay (male) sex is disgusting, but that doesn't mean that gay love is. If a person can find a healthy relationship in someone, regardless of their sex, race or religious orientation, then I say "go for it." Just let it be known that if you're a dude, you won't find that relationship with me.
How can a Psychological Disorder be healthy ?
Doofus_AW
2003-12-01, 11:09 AM
No
Sovereign
2003-12-01, 11:11 AM
Elaborate doofus. Why do you care what otehr people do if it in no way involves you. How does that affect you.
quikspy67
2003-12-01, 12:10 PM
No it isn't right we should follow god's design.
Elaborate doofus. Why do you care what otehr people do if it in no way involves you. How does that affect you.
First off. It is proven that psychological disorder can and will affect the ppl arround of the distrubed one.
By making ppl accept their psychological disorder it actualy in long term giving the same effect as a slow plague.
These kind of psycological disorder should be fixed and those that do not want to be fixed should be euthanized.
Penny_Bags
2003-12-01, 03:04 PM
Each sentence doesnt need to be it's own paragraph.
But I say that homosexuality is a psychological disorder based on the assumption that people must procreate to survive. People are here with instincts to continue the human race. And these instincts are not there in gay folk, making it a psychological disorder.
Scientifically I think it is wrong for that reason, and religiously I think it is just an impure choice.
Jessifer
2003-12-01, 04:33 PM
If people are going to be gay, they're going to be gay regardless of how other people feel about it. It's not accepting the fact that there is homosexuality out there and that it's becoming increasingly normal that's a problem.
From what I've seen, most gay men tend to be a ton more open-minded and understanding than straight men. A few members in Zelaron seem to have proven this.
Really, what's so hard about just accepting homosexual people? You don't have to like it, but just acknowledging it, [/i]without[/i] throwing out lewd comments, hateful statements, and narrow-minded opinions, would be a step in the right direction for all of mankind.
Jamesadin
2003-12-01, 04:37 PM
I think they should be allowed to do what they want, becuase I don't think someone should be fucked over just becuase they think of something different. Personally, I really don't care what they do, but they shoudl be given the same privilages as us.
Plus, people are saying things about how religion says it is wrong. Well, I believe in God, and would He degrade one person becuase of a psychological disorder? No, he wouldn't. And for all of you scientific people, you might say that it shouldn't be allowed becuase it is a psychological disorder, and therefore it shouldnt be allowed. Well, you can't fix it, so what are you going to do? Not allow them to express themselves, then make them feel worse? No, it isn't morally right.
So, I will argue till the end of time about this. Should what they be doing be a crime. No, get the police officers to stick to getting the crooks, not busting two people for loving eachother.
PS. Becuase I know if I didn't put this, people would think strangly of me, but I am straight, just to let all you homophobes know.
KagomJack
2003-12-01, 04:39 PM
No it isn't right we should follow god's design.
That is what I say to people a lot of times. They usually get all pissy and say that I just believe in a book that was pure fantasy. But I agree, follow God's design. 8===D + (_o_) does not = children. But hey, that's just my opinion.
Sovereign
2003-12-01, 04:41 PM
Ok, proove to me that god exists. Proove to me that he really said all that.
Jessifer
2003-12-01, 04:43 PM
I believe in a god and all, but I definately don't believe in everything the book says.
KagomJack
2003-12-01, 04:43 PM
My only response to your question, Sovereign, is that God is very much like a postulate (i think this is the right word), you can't prove God exists, yet you can. God is a spirit, but God is intangible, like air, yet you know Air exists. Relying on science is a good thing, but in the matters of paranormal, spiritual, or supernatural, science isn't all that great in those areas.
Jessifer
2003-12-01, 04:45 PM
What does that have to do with proving God is against homosexuality?
Jamesadin
2003-12-01, 04:46 PM
Kagom, read what I said about the God bit in my post a couple above this one, I just would like to hear your response to it.
KagomJack
2003-12-01, 04:50 PM
well...heh...you got me there. But my only defense is the book of Leviticus in the Old Testament (I forget the chapter and verse) and the Letter to the Romans (ditto). In Leviticus, it says mankind shall not lie with mankind as he does with womankind for it is an abomination. I personally think celibate homosexuals are ok with God, repentant homosexuals are ok with God, but unrepentant homosexuals aren't in a very good standing with God.
Eddie_Perez
2003-12-01, 05:25 PM
Anyone ever listen to Coast to Coast AM?
Really, what's so hard about just accepting homosexual people?
How stupid would it be to accept someone psychological disorder?
How stupid would be to think an error of nature is acceptable ?
How would i be able to live with myself if i would accept a bunch of brain damaged bastard ?
It's not about being open minded or not. It's about not accepting FAILURE! They do not deserve to live, they are SHAME to society and should be dealt with. They dont want to be fixed.
To the fags that dont want to be fix i suggest you pay 10$ and they take out the needle and put you to sleep.
Sovereign
2003-12-01, 06:27 PM
How stupid would it be to accept someone psychological disorder
I have a psychological disorder. Im bipolar. Does that make me garbage, does that make me worthless. Does that make me any less human. I dont think so. Its just something wrong in my head that i cant really fix, well wihtout the help of medication that is.
How stupid would be to think an error of nature is acceptable
Your CONCEPTION was a mistake kuja. No this is not a flame it is true. The walls of the vagina are very acidic, so as not to let stuf through. Its mean tto kill all. The fact that the sperm that came to conceieve you got through is a mistake. Does that mean you should be killed? Does that mean your any less of a person then anyone else? No.
It's about not accepting FAILURE!
WHo are you to tell people what is failure or not oh all knowledgable one. Maybe its you who has the psychological failure in their head that causes people to become unable to accept homosexuals.
THats my say on the subject and the last time im posting in this thread by the way/
How stupid would it be to accept someone psychological disorder
I have a psychological disorder. Im bipolar. Does that make me garbage, does that make me worthless. Does that make me any less human. I dont think so. Its just something wrong in my head that i cant really fix, well wihtout the help of medication that is.
Do you try to get fixed ?
If no.
Then you are garbage.
How stupid would be to think an error of nature is acceptable
Your CONCEPTION was a mistake kuja. No this is not a flame it is true. The walls of the vagina are very acidic, so as not to let stuf through. Its mean tto kill all. The fact that the sperm that came to conceieve you got through is a mistake. Does that mean you should be killed? Does that mean your any less of a person then anyone else? No.
I fail to actualy see a point to this. You know that your saliva is actualy helping to dismantle the food and help destroying some of the bad thing in the food ? So eating is not natural ? I dunno if you actualy looked at evolution but back then we didnt have soap or shower. It is only NORMAL that it is acidic so it would kill BACTERIA that could be on the EXTERNAL PART OF THE MAN PENIS! If it wasnt it would actualy have been impossible to procreate and bam we wouldnt exist cause every female would of died of huge vaginal infection.
It's about not accepting FAILURE!
WHo are you to tell people what is failure or not oh all knowledgable one. Maybe its you who has the psychological failure in their head that causes people to become unable to accept homosexuals.
It is easy to see what is a failure or not. We are designed for some things. Failing to do that is being a failure. We live to pass the future to the children we get. Being gay has no future and there is many reason that i could go on for days and weeks. FAILURE!
Penny_Bags
2003-12-01, 07:42 PM
Really, what's so hard about just accepting homosexual people?
How stupid would it be to accept someone psychological disorder?
How stupid would be to think an error of nature is acceptable ?
How would i be able to live with myself if i would accept a bunch of brain damaged bastard ?
It's not about being open minded or not. It's about not accepting FAILURE! They do not deserve to live, they are SHAME to society and should be dealt with. They dont want to be fixed.
To the fags that dont want to be fix i suggest you pay 10$ and they take out the needle and put you to sleep.YOu just RUINED your point. They don't deserve death. They just shouldn't be encouraged. While we must be able to accept them, that doesnt mean we must encourage it. Claiming they deserve death is arrogant and selfish.
You put gays on the same level as mentally retarded people, calling it failure, but failure can only be the product of something that is controllable by the person. Based on your statements you think that all retarded people should be put to death? Just kill yourself or something. Better yet, form a cult of all the people that think like you and go down together in the Reflecting Pool. Fuck off.
Wrong retarded cannot be fixed therefor they aint as bad. They cant currently get fixed but they are a need in our society. We work by need. When there a need we find a way. By having retarded ppl that cannot be fixed at this time. Many are trying to actualy find way to eliminate the sad effect that these poor little retard ppl are suffering from. Which is in a way helping us evolve. Being retarded isnt a psychological disorder it is a MENTAL DISFUNTION ! There is a HUGE differance between the 2.
Jamesadin
2003-12-01, 08:07 PM
You can't fix a homosexual. It doesn't work like that. I am sure there isn't a drug you can take to stop liking the same sex. It doesn't work like that. And also, don't call Sovregien garbage, if he has a mental disorder, that isn't his fault. It is our responsibility to work around it as humans. Accept the fact that everyone isn't born flawless.
KagomJack
2003-12-01, 08:09 PM
How stupid would it be to accept someone psychological disorder
I have a psychological disorder. Im bipolar. Does that make me garbage, does that make me worthless. Does that make me any less human. I dont think so. Its just something wrong in my head that i cant really fix, well wihtout the help of medication that is.
How stupid would be to think an error of nature is acceptable
Your CONCEPTION was a mistake kuja. No this is not a flame it is true. The walls of the vagina are very acidic, so as not to let stuf through. Its mean tto kill all. The fact that the sperm that came to conceieve you got through is a mistake. Does that mean you should be killed? Does that mean your any less of a person then anyone else? No.
It's about not accepting FAILURE!
WHo are you to tell people what is failure or not oh all knowledgable one. Maybe its you who has the psychological failure in their head that causes people to become unable to accept homosexuals.
THats my say on the subject and the last time im posting in this thread by the way/
I am due to bouts of schizophrenia. So I believe that not all people with psychological disorders should perish. In fact, I think none should be killed because of psychological disorders...that's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too Landover Baptisty
Oh, since you told Kuja to form a cult that believes that crap, there's www.landoverbaptist.org :D
On another note, can we not use RETARD, I have a mentally disabled relative (which some might call retarded) and I know that they understand what retard means, and it hurts them.
And finally, Homosexuality can be "cured". I've known people who try 1 of 3 things: Celibacy (no masturbation and no sex), Hypnosis, and the only thing I would call an act of cowardice: suicide. None of them have tried the third one mentioned (thank God!). But those are usually the only choices you can get, of course there are "group/support meetings" that help you be "cured" of homosexuality.
You can't fix a homosexual. It doesn't work like that. I am sure there isn't a drug you can take to stop liking the same sex. It doesn't work like that. And also, don't call Sovregien garbage, if he has a mental disorder, that isn't his fault. It is our responsibility to work around it as humans. Accept the fact that everyone isn't born flawless.
It can be fixed. It's not always about drugz. What is it with you ppl and medicine addiction. Most problem start in the mind and has to be fixed with help from ppl not fucken pills.
The brain power can do wonder when at work.
You guyz can even imagine how many ppl in those hospital that have regular headache, fever, problem to sleep and many other things. Doctor actualy give them fake pills telling them it will work and cause the person that take it think they work the problem is gone.
The need of pills, medicine and whatever isnt the main important thing. Someone that doesnt want will actualy have his body fight any medicine anyway. It all start in the mind and finish there. The only thing medicine can do on a psychological disorder is help to the way of getting an healthy mind.
KagomJack
2003-12-01, 08:27 PM
I have heard about Doctors doing this. I had a friend who always complained about headaches, and the doctor gave him some "pills" (which was really candy) and after he took them like he was told, he never complained about it again.
I am due to bouts of schizophrenia. So I believe that not all people with psychological disorders should perish. In fact, I think none should be killed because of psychological disorders...that's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too Landover Baptisty
1. Do you actualy accept it (like gay ppl accept and like what they are) ?
2. Did you at least try to help yourself with medication therapy and/or psychological rehabilitation programs ?
Answer those question and if the awnser are
1. Yes
2. No
Then you know what i think.
KagomJack
2003-12-01, 08:32 PM
there is no point in trying to get help...because no one wants to help. Ever thought about THAT situation?
Search a little you will see there is treatment to help you. No cure for that at the moment but there is lot you can do to help yourself. The Will beat all, it is what make miracle. Situation that sometime seem to defy logic because we do not even fully understand out current capacity.
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Out of topic
With the little of our brain we use and the little we know about what we use. Imagine the actualy capacity it would be at full. Kinda scary if you ask me.
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It isnt true no one want to help. But it is true that everyone got their own reason to do so. It is never really free even tho we do not actualy have to give anything in return.
Here is a few reason.
Some need to help because of things that happen in the past.
Some others need to help because they just want to ppl to thank them. Cause they never did in the past.
Some just want to help the one in pain cause they like to be arround it.
There is many other reason.
But when you think about it. Who care why they do it!
The important is the result. If you get what you need and you aint losing anything in the process the rest isnt important.
KagomJack
2003-12-01, 08:49 PM
well, I can't get help because (A) people think i'm acting (B) people just don't know what to do (C) I can't get tests because my mom thinks i'd be acting...
Go see a doctor who care what she think. Prove her wrong. Take the step foward and go see a doctor tell him about it. She think you acting ? Tell her "I must be a really good actor"
You gota learn something in life it's that if you do not stand up for yourself no one will.
Jessifer
2003-12-01, 08:57 PM
Homosexuals don't need to be 'cured'. IMHO, It's more of a disease to deny yourself who you truly are on the inside.
KagomJack
2003-12-01, 09:01 PM
I stand up for myself all the damn time. Even in this I did. But they just don't belive me...so why bother trying? Even my support group leaders think i'm making it up.
Homosexuals don't need to be 'cured'. IMHO, It's more of a disease to deny yourself who you truly are on the inside.
You actualy contradicted your whole argument.
The "It's more of a disease to deny yourself who you truly are on the inside." is actualy what contradicted everything you just said.
What we are?
Human.
What are human made to do?
Evolve, Reproduce, teach then die.
With what do we reproduce ?
With human of same sex ? WRONG
The correct answer is WITH HUMAN OF THE OPOSITE SEX!
This is what we are on the inside.
Thx for supporting my argument Jessifer
I stand up for myself all the damn time. Even in this I did. But they just don't belive me...so why bother trying? Even my support group leaders think i'm making it up.
Think about it. Maybe you are. Like i said our will is strong. Here il just throw an example that could or not be the reason. Just to give you an idea.
What if you needed to find a way to get attention. But it didnt actualy work. So by trying harder and harder you actualy started to beleive that you really were suffering from something you actualy created with your imagination to get attention you wanted.
So basicly you would be suffering from delusion because of something else. You wouldnt be having delusion about yourself suffering from schizophrenia. Most time things are triggered by something else. An event of the past, there was a need and the person create a solution. Most time these solution could work in short-term but they often end up being long-term solution that turn into a disaster.
KagomJack
2003-12-01, 09:44 PM
no, that only happened with the stigmata incident...this is pretty genuine. Attention is easy to come by in my world.
The reason that is causin your problem doesnt need to be a need of attention. I was just pointing out and example. If i listed every possible reason i would probably die of starvation in a few week cause i would of still been typing the post. Most psychological disorder come from something that happened in that past. So maybe you should look there. Most time the answer are hidden deep.
On another note, can we not use RETARD, I have a mentally disabled relative (which some might call retarded) and I know that they understand what retard means, and it hurts them.
Well when talking about someone in that kind of situation i dont think retard is an insult since the mental disfunction is mostly the body and the brain not being synchronized.
Many scientist think that lot of them are just too smart for the level of evolution we are currently in like they can access more brain capacity then the average ppl but the brain at our current state of evolution isnt evolved enought to grant a normal access to the brain part they are in. Which would explain why they seem kinda lost. Cause the way the brain work it's always active everywhere. More in some place and less on some other but always active everywhere. If you look at any big genius. You can clearly see that they are a little crazy on the side.
So are genuis closer in brain activity to normal ppl or ppl that have mental disfunction ? Well i dunno there probably some mad scientist that tested it :) I personaly would think genuis mental activity is closer to those that have mental disfunction.
Well going to bed!
J_iceman
2003-12-03, 08:46 AM
to me i think lezbos are fine, not fags, i know its wrong, its just my opinion
Jamesadin
2003-12-03, 12:10 PM
A steriotypical horny teenager..
Raziel
2003-12-03, 11:46 PM
It isn't like me to do this, but I honestly can't continue reading the remainer of Kuja's posts without going postal.
You have to be the absolute most blind and bigoted asshole I've ever encountered. You say that homosexuals need to be euthanized?! Why? Because you are of the OPINION that homosexuality is a disorder?
What about kids with Down's Syndrome? What about people with depression-inducing chemical imbalances? What about people with lazy eyes? They're "imperfect" and "flawed" human beings according to your all-too educated opinion of human value! Should they be euthanized you fucking twat?
What does it take to satisfy your standards of human worth? Blonde hair, blue eyes and a german fucking accent? Should my grandmother be put ot sleep because she's no longer capable of walking without assistance? Should I be destroyed because I'm abnormally small for my age? What about you, you fucking prick? Should you be destroyed because you have an obvious imbalance in your perceptive abilites and personal opinions?
You're a fucking joke, Kuja. As of this moment, you sicken me to no end. Have a happy life knowing that you'll die hated and alone.
Because you are of the OPINION that homosexuality is a disorder?
It'snot an opinion it has been proven.
Just like KagomJack mention it CAN be CURED.
What about kids with Down's Syndrome? What about people with depression-inducing chemical imbalances? What about people with lazy eyes? They're "imperfect" and "flawed" human beings according to your all-too educated opinion of human value! Should they be euthanized you fucking twat?
There is a diff. between these and homosexual. Homosexual in most case do not get fixed, do not want to be fixed and LIKE THEIR PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDER!
If ppl that have depression-inducing chemical imbalances or whatever do not want to be fixed and accept and even LIKE THEIR PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDER! Well they deserve to die. I seen these kind of ppl THEY DO NOT LIKE THEIR PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDER!
What does it take to satisfy your standards of human worth? Blonde hair, blue eyes and a german fucking accent?
Thx for making 0 sense. We are talking about psychological and you bring something physical.
Should my grandmother be put ot sleep because she's no longer capable of walking without assistance? Should I be destroyed because I'm abnormally small for my age? What about you, you fucking prick?
Again, you bring something physical which make NO SENSE.
It actualy help to have ppl like that, She cant walk! Well it make ppl work to find a way to help! Psychological disorder can and will in often case affect others and this is again PROVEN. Cause your a small monkey doesnt mean that it will affect other ppl mind in anyway.
All you brought prove to me you just wrote this post without even knowing what i was talking about and withtout even knowing what you were talking about either.
Thx for your post. It made no sense at all.
J_iceman
2003-12-04, 10:40 AM
A steriotypical horny teenager..
actually its a REAL man's point of mind....dont tell me that an average man DOESN'T WANT 2 chicks in bed
anyways Raz has a point, look at sammy davis jr. he has only one good eye and yet he has more skills than probably most of us combined!!
he doesnt have any point.
You ever heard the diff. between physical and psychological ?
Even with physical it kinda come to the same thing. If someone is happy to be fucken disabled they should be shot.
"Man, i lost my leg ! Sunch a thrill i love it!"
Go see anyone that lost their legs and ask them what they wouldnt do to get them back even for a day! Ask anyone that is visualy impaired if they enjoy being impaired! Ask if a blind would is happy to be blind and would like to see. Ask someone dying if he is happy to die and wouldnt prefer to live. Ask sammy davis jr if he would prefer to have 2 good eyes.
If someone is happy to have these problem they should be shot and you all know it's true.
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