Suicidal

[Demosthenes]

Ever been suicidal or just really depressed? Post here if you are or ever were and tell why if it's not 2 personal.

For me I guess it's basically on and off. Sometimes I seriously feel suicidal, but then it goes away...so its no big deal. But there was a time I was suicidal for a while...or at least i think. I wanted 2 kill myself but never worked up the guts 2. The weird thing is...i dont even know what i was so depressed about...i just was. Is that normal?!?!...lol...i dunno.

[Sovereign]

Yes i was suicidal and depressed. This was 3 years ago, mind you so things have changed. When the love of my life (at the time :() dumped me, i went insaine. I felt so alone, and thought of kiling myself mutiple times. (the thoughts, not actually killling myself, you only have to do that once). I got some help and luckily i am over her and my suicidal tendancies. But it did suck. Very hard times, not knowing if you would let yourself live for a day more.

[Demosthenes]

You know...sometimes I wish I never liked girls. Don't get me wrong I would like 2 fuck em and all but I wish I didn't like...wait...like is not the right word...sometimes I wish I didn't love a specific girl cuz for a while it's great but then the pain from that if it's over is also pretty bad...

[Grav]

I thought about it for a while then realized I'm a dumbass for even thinking it. Besides I'm too lazy to carry it out to begin with.

[DaFrigginDoctah]

I used to be. Not anymore though. :)
It is too personal to say why, but there were quite a few reasons, not just piddly shit. I tried to carry it out many times, but people kept interfering or it didnt work out how I planned, etc.

[sh0e]

no one has the right to commit suicide
for essentially ur life is not ur own to give

and that is what kept me from seriously considering suicide
altho i did for a period of time desire a "way out" so to speak

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[Grav]

Shinto it's good that you're feeling better now but seriously you're scaring me.

[Sovereign]

no one has the right to commit suicide
for essentially ur life is not ur own to give

You have NO right to tell other people what they can and cant do with theire own lives. Not everybody is as big of a religious zealot as you.

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[Jamesadin]

I never have been, though it is normal..

[Demosthenes]

no one has the right to commit suicide
for essentially ur life is not ur own to give

and that is what kept me from seriously considering suicide
altho i did for a period of time desire a "way out" so to speak

and so whose life is it...
if it's not my life that i am living than what is this?!?!

[DaFrigginDoctah]

It is your right to take your own life, it is just selfish. You'll be causing a shitload of pain to other people, to those who care about you, whether or not you want to believe those people exist, for all, they do. It just creates a chain of suicides... You kill yourself... Your brother gets depressed, after about 6 months or so finally decides to end it, then your sister, or your parents, whatever. It just makes no sense.

Work through the bad things, concentrate on the good things, and the future. Because your future will be better, you just have to quit being so goddamned lazy and do a little bit of work for it, other than accepting the pain again and again of less than mediocre life. Get off your ass, and work for a better future for yourself, and those around you. Start small, then work your way up. You'll get there.

/END OF AFTER-SCHOOL SPECIAL

[Demosthenes]

Makes sense DFD. I agree that it is selfish, and probably would cause pain to some people. But then if you're thinking about killing yourself...its hard 2 think about other ppl at teh same time. I also don't like it that it's illegal to take your own life...there is no way that i shouldnt be able 2 take my own life if i really wanted 2. But yea...i know if i did kill myself my sister would be depressed...and hopefully my parents as well. My sister really does look up 2 me. Other than not having the guts 2 do it she was the other reason that i could never bring myself 2 it. I guess your right...wallowing in self-pity does no good whatsoever but it's hard sometimes not 2...but it must be done.

but then again...i believe it's my right 2 take my life if i want 2...

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[sh0e]

sorry i couldnt resist the wording

in all honesty i am not highly religious and am.. for lack of a better term agnostic
tho i do still stand by this saying in a different sense

the ability to exist or live.. be it a curse or a gift.. is given as to allow you to become a part of existence.. a part of life.. a part of the human race.. and to survive and allow life to continue existing
to throw away ur own life for the reasons of.. for lack of a better term.. weakness.. is to neglect one of the greatest of responsibilities if not the ultimate

in another sense:
the ability to think and make the choice of self destruction is a product of ur existence
you are contradicting not only your own thoughts but ur entire existence

so by suiciding you are not only being untrue to the world
but also to yourself and your own being
in this sense there is no justification or "right" for ending ur own existence
even from a selfish point of view

the only justification i can see at all is the "right" of "choice"
but even ur ability of choice is contradicted

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[RoboticSilence]

I'm not suicidal, but I do take pills for depression... :(

[-=Rico-GP=-]

i was suicidal for like 3 minutes when i was emotionally hurt, i don't want to talk about it.

[Kuja]

God, and Jesus Christ.

This God and Jesus guy are some funny fella.
When you talk to them your praying.
But when hear them. Your crazy.

[Demosthenes]

I wish i had faith in a religion...that would help so much...o well

[Jessifer]

I have a lot of reasons to be suicidal, and I don't care if the whole world knows them. This is probably TMI to some people, but oh well.

I grew up in a poor family. My parents separated when I was young. My dad smoked pot frequently, and my mother worked two jobs. I didn't see either of them very often. My mother...heh...well she was a slut, to be blunt. Popular with the men. But she was also a wonderful person. I loved her. All of the kids in the neighborhood called her a second mother.

Her last relationship with a guy was a mistake. He was about 20 years younger than her, and had psycological problems (though she didn't know it at the time). In the end he murdered her. And then he came for me.

I was only 12 at the time, and rather gullible. He convinced me to get into a car with him, saying my mother had won some money in bingo. He drove around for a while and ended up raping me behind a church. He nearly choked me to death during it.

Yeah. I'm a rape survivor. I'm not ashamed of it at all anymore. I grew out of that within a few years. After it happened my grandparents forced me to see a shrink, in case I did become suicidal.

Other reason I have for being suicidal? Hm, I'm overweight. I have been since I was 11, regardless of not eatting much at all. I don't find myself to be all that attractive. I'm now 19, and I've never been in a relationship with anyone. Male or female. I've never even known anyone to even be interested in me. It's rather frustrating, because I want to have children young. At least by 25.

In short: My parents separated, my dad was a pot head, my mother was a slut, I was raped, my mother was murdered, I'm fat, I'm ugly, and I'm lonely.

And through all of this? Never once have I ever seriously considered ending my own life. Why should I? I cherish everything I've experienced in the past, be it good or bad. Everything taught me how to live life to it's fullest. It taught me to always keep my spirits high, no matter how low life itself may get. What's the point of ending your life today if you don't know for sure just how good it will be tomorrow? Life is full of trials, and every one is a lesson for us.

It's up to us whether we actually heed those lessons or not. Every day brings us pleasure, whether it be small or big. But sometimes we have to give a little extra effort to see it. And life has it's downs. But it feels so good to look back at them and say "I over came that. I didn't let it hold me back. I am where I am today because of that."

And yanno what? Today is a good day to be living.


...Every day is.

[Hades-Knight]

this has been discusse dlike 10 other times

[Demosthenes]

I'm sorry 2 here that jessifer...it's sad
it's great that u cant handle these circumstances so well

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[Jessifer]

Tch. I wasn't aware that I was asking for sympathy. Nor that I was whining.

But hey, thanks for voicing your opinions. I just recommend doing something to relax, however. You seem a bit tense.

[-=Rico-GP=-]

jessifer your life sounds like a book.

[Kuja`s #1]

I could publish it. Seriously, your life is very interesting.

[Jessifer]

Meh. Nah. There's already enough stories like that out there.

[Grav]

That's very sad. You better not be lying, god damnit. I've had quite a few friends die from various things. One of my friend's dads was even murdered on the subway. Life does suck, but friends exist to keep you happy. Keep your friends close.

[-=Rico-GP=-]

enemies closer?




But yeah don't lie about those types of things, don't misslead us to believe your like this, when really your not. This is a very serious topic

[Jessifer]

Oh no. It's no lie. Ask KA. Besides, why would I lie about something as serious as that?

[-=Rico-GP=-]

I don't know, sometimes people lie about sick things. But i'm sorry you had to go through all that.

[Jessifer]

Like Shinto said. It's in the past. I have no reason to dwell on it anymore. I have only the future to look to.

[-=Rico-GP=-]

May it be bright and full of joy

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[Grav]

May it be bright and full of donuts

[-=Rico-GP=-]

May it be bright and full of donuts

rofl.

[Titusfied]

I don't think suicide is as normal as you guys are making it out to be. If you have those thoughts, you seriously need help. I'm not trying to be insensitive or anything, but I myself have never even remotely had those types of thoughts, and if I did, I'd be very worried. Talk to someone about your problems, don't let them bottle up. Its not good.

[Eddie_Perez]

I don't respect emotionally weak people...

[Kuja]

I don't know, sometimes people lie about sick things. But i'm sorry you had to go through all that.
That's cause they are attention whore. Some ppl need to be noticed and will do it on the net or in real life no matter what the cost are.

It is more common then most think. I seen many of my friends lie about themself or their way of life in chat, i found out about many i met on the net that were trying to bullshit me. It's not always big lie sometime it can be something very little and this is where it get sick. Some of them build their lies in the smallest of details.

I don't think suicide is as normal as you guys are making it out to be. If you have those thoughts, you seriously need help.

It is normal, the thing is most of the time ppl very depressed once they do not do things for a while. But why ? This is the question many do not understand. The reason for ppl to get depressed and want to end it all is often followed by lot of free time. That free time is often used by these person to think about life ! This is where the suicidal thinking start. When you have lot of time to think how useless life is it is quite depressing. This is why very active ppl have much less chance to get so depressed. They just dont think about these thing they live their life without knowing how useless it is.

I know, some will say "life is fun ! BlahBlahBlah !" I totaly agree life can be fun. But what im pointing out is that the ppl who do have fun in life are the one that do not actualy care about the reason of it. They just live it.

I don't respect emotionally weak people...

Then you must not respect yourself. We are all emotionally weak to a level. Sure some are weaker then other but we all have something that will extremly hurt us emotionally. No one can say that nothing will thick em off. We all have our weakness somewhere.

This is part of what make us alive.

[Eddie_Perez]

I should specify... I dont respect people that are emotionally weak of dumb shit. I'm not saying dont cry over relatives dying or anything like that...

[Demosthenes]

and who defines dumb?!?! you

[Grav]

I DEFINE DUMB!!! MANTRALORD!

[Eddie_Perez]

Yes, I define dumb, since its my opinion... I'm not deciding for the rest of the world, I'm deciding in how I judge people, got a problem with it? Tuff...

[Demosthenes]

how do you expect 2 judge ppl u dont know and have never in ur life met or know hardly anything about. This thread is about a persons flaws...that's what we're posting here. That doesn't make the whole person.

[Chruser]

I'm too much of masochist to kill myself. Life is meant to be painful at times.

[sh0e]

ya i want a dominatrix too..

i dont pretend to know the following for sure and am likely to be wrong.. they are however observations ive found to be true in many scenarios

i agree with kuja as it does indeed seem to happen a lot but i dont think its only the fault of being an attention whore
i believe that there is a lot of influence and bolstering by societal structure and that you would find more "attention whores" depending on the environmental setting

It is normal, the thing is most of the time ppl very depressed once they do not do things for a while.
very interesting statement.. and it would seem to be strongly supported
most evident of current in china.. whose suicide rate has been jumping
seeming to correlate strongly with the countrys development

They just dont think about these thing they live their life without knowing how useless it is.
just amusing to hear out of context

[timmay1113]

i guess my "thats nice" method isnt soothing enough for u mj, u got to tell other peoples about your problems lol, but dude, once u start driving... things should be ok, just dont commit suicide till then

[Demosthenes]

lol...goddamnit u im not suicidal im just sayin i have had thoughts

[Dan XIII]

Suicide is not normal.Sometimes people let their emotions get out of control and they attempt or succeed at suicide.Suicide is never the answer and if you are thinking of it because of depression then talk to your best friend or mom about.Don't want to talk to your mom and you have no friends?Talk to me about and I will see what I can do.If you want to kill yourself because you are bored then find something to do.

[tidus2005]

I don't think suicide is as normal as you guys are making it out to be. If you have those thoughts, you seriously need help. I'm not trying to be insensitive or anything, but I myself have never even remotely had those types of thoughts, and if I did, I'd be very worried. Talk to someone about your problems, don't let them bottle up. Its not good.

from what i have read on zelaron titusfied you have tried to solve your problems with alchol which isnt a good solution either

[RaZ]

well hell it must suck for those people who have had a failed attempt of committing suicide because then they realize its one more thing their not good at.

[DaMuffenManInd]

lmao RAZ tru tru

suicidal tendencys run though every 1s head its are u really going to act apon it and a faild suicide cant be very well thought out i mean if u reall ywanted to go some when where no 1 was around and do it

iv had thoughts but my uncle was kill by a brunk driver and my dad was killed hunting som another death on this family would well i dont know what it would do but i dont think my mom could take it so i would never do it and a few times thats been my only reson not to but hay fuckit if ur gana do it rob a fucking bank befor then if u get away your happy and dont want to die and if u get busted kill your self its win win

[D3V]

I used to be... Long story.

[timmay1113]

i get pretty bad sometimes but i prefer to just to kind of take depression and put it into anger and hit something and calm myself down and just forget about it. my friends usually seem to be the ones suffering from the suicidal syndrome and i have to help them out

[Demosthenes]

by yelling at them might i add...lol

[Titusfied]

Hah, I've never tried to solve any of my problems with alcohol, its actually quite the opposite. I have a problem that I can't drink when I'm stressing or having problems, but when it comes to unwinding, I am all about a beer.

[Sovereign]

Yea, same with me, but im all about the hard lemonade. Damn pity its underage drinking.

[timmay1113]

yelling at u... why whatever do u mean buddy? lol