Log in

View Full Version : Rap vs. Rock


Kuja`s #1
2003-11-07, 07:59 PM
For years, teenagers have been ruled by the black music creation, rap. Rap's uniqueness shocked the nation's adulescence. They soon began to copy the african-american ways. Waring their clothes and speaking their language known as ebonics.

Yet, now and since mid-2003, the white teenage community has begun to emerge from this fad. They are returning to the original symbol of white music, rock. Rock, metal & heavy metal have been regaining the popularity they once had. More and more teens are buying these CDs and picking up where they left off, so many years ago.

As for the next few years, nobody knows. Rock may once again rise to be the #1 most popular form of music for teens and young adults. Or they may in fact, sink back into the black culture fad of the major portion of the 90s and early 2000.

What is your opinion? Will the white community continue to buy and listen to AC/DC & Pantera CDs. Or will they once again idolize Snoop Dog and the newest sensation, 50 cent(can't stand him)

LONG LIVE ROCK'N ROLL!!!!

RoboticSilence
2003-11-07, 09:36 PM
Yeah definately... as much as I respect the ability for rhymin', I'll always be more of a fan of rock.

Jessifer
2003-11-08, 01:41 PM
Woo! Rock n' roll, baby!

Penny_Bags
2003-11-08, 02:03 PM
I think rock will slowly gain more popularity... we just need something new that is as great and godly as ACDC, Led, GnR, the ramones and the like. Without something new, its gonna be hard to win more listeners.

haplo
2003-11-08, 02:32 PM
i like sum rap and such but im all about the rock and metal!
i hate wiggers. i wana curb em. die die die!!!!

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-08, 03:09 PM
How about Godsmack? They the shit!

Kuja
2003-11-08, 03:13 PM
Nobuo Uematsu own both rap and rock anyday ;)

Jessifer
2003-11-08, 03:16 PM
I agree with Kuja. >:-D

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-08, 07:08 PM
WTF?

Penny_Bags
2003-11-08, 07:10 PM
I despise the statement wigger and all other stereotypical derogatory terms.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-08, 07:19 PM
That's why I hate Rap.

Jessifer
2003-11-08, 07:32 PM
There are some good rap...ehrm...lyrics. Not all rap is bad, I'll admit that.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-08, 07:39 PM
Rap blows. They can't sing, so they just keep rhyming. They are talentless, hoods who should be dead.


No flame, just opinion.

Jessifer
2003-11-08, 07:43 PM
They don't sing period. I almost said "Songs" instead of "Lyrics". I base music on lyrics, and not beats or how it sounds. If a song has an actual message that it puts across, I'll listen to it.

Kuja
2003-11-08, 07:43 PM
What define good music and bad music ? Nothing else then personal taste. After all music is nothing more then noise.

Jessifer
2003-11-08, 07:48 PM
Good music in my humble opinion is determined by lyrics. Which is why I hate most Rap music.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-08, 07:49 PM
Some music depends on people's taste, but! To trully be good music, it has to be a sequence of beats, thrown together to a certain assemblance that pleases the ear.

Jessifer
2003-11-08, 07:54 PM
Rock is very pleasing to my ears. ^_^

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-08, 07:56 PM
Straight out of line..."

I don't need a reason;
to justify..."

Godsmack, Faceless. The best newer band IMO.

Sovereign
2003-11-08, 07:58 PM
Rap is crap. All it is is a bunch of people filling up so called "music" with racial slurs and threats towards peopel who have "wronged them". All the rap i hear is by african americans (except Eminem). THe terms "nigger","bitches","hoes", and "sluts" is used way to much. All these people are doing is degrading themselves as african americans and females.

There music videos are terrible. The only people who would EVER watch them are perverts or horny teenagers who have nothing left to do in there misearble lives. ITs just filled with a bunch of scantily clan women dancing around and having water/beer or some sort of liquid dumped on them. Truly dispicable.

Jessifer
2003-11-08, 08:00 PM
Oh Lahd! Rahp mus-hick iz thuh Deh-vuhl!

Yes. I can not bear to watch a Rap video. It's like badly directed soft-core porn.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-08, 08:03 PM
A bunch of half-naked women, sporty cars, guns, gangs, and other crap can describe their shitty music videos.

Jessifer
2003-11-08, 08:06 PM
Yes. I must agree.

Heh. My dad listens to Eminem.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-08, 08:07 PM
He killed his wife.

Jessifer
2003-11-08, 08:10 PM
Did he? I only listen to a few of his songs, personally. I stick mainly to rock.

OmniFalcon
2003-11-08, 10:28 PM
Hmm... I shall list what "Rock" I can, and what "Rap" I can. Well nobody gives a sh*t so I will just do it anyways.

Rock :
Dimmu Borgir, Korn, Slipknot, Puddle of Mud, Nirvana *I will miss you always, Kurt Cobain.*, Metallica, AC/DC, Linkin Park, Mudvayne, Trapt, Disturbed, AFI, Blink 182, Chevelle, Taproot, Marilyn Manson, Authority Zero, AudioSlave, LP, POD, Ramones, NOFX, Simple Plan, Evanesence, 7M3, The Todies,AntiFlag, Beatles, NickleBack, Rob Zombie, Static-X,Smile Empty Soul, Deftones, Godsmack *Go Kuja's #1!*, Cradle of Filth, Old Man's Child, Starkness*solo project of Shagrath of Dimmu Borgir*, Ragnarok*yes its a band, not just a sword and a ship*, Malefic, Arcturus, Seven Sins, Black Sabbath, Lord Kaos, The Khaos Krew, The Kovenant, Mushroom Head, Astennu's project, Carpe Tenebrum, REM, The Strokes, The White Stripes, The Hives, Jimmy Eat World, Kittie, U2, The Donna's*1 or 2 n's?*, KISS, Stiletto, The Wolfs, Werewolf, Meshugga, Led Zepplin, Jeff Beck, Van Halen, Rage Against The Machine, The Pixies, the Clash, Yellowcard, Twisted Sister, Poison, Guns and Roses, Aerosmith, Brand New, Further Seems Forever, Over It, Armor for Sleep, Name Taken, Fall Out Boy, MxPx, Ataris, Audio Karate, AutoPilot Off, Avenged Sevenfold, GlassJAw, Home Grown, Inspection 12, Larger Than Life, LongShot Hero, Lucky 7, Lucky Boys Confusion, The Early November, The Get Go, The Goodwill, The Movielife, The Reunion Show, The Used, Thrice, Thursday, Unsung Zeros, W.A.S.P., Nazareth, White Snake, Ted Nugent, Bad Company, The Outlaws, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Alice Cooper, Pink Floyd, Queens of the Stone Age.


Rap:
I am 23.7% sure its 72 Cent
I am 19.2% sure its Snoop Cat
I am 62.9% sure its Welly

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-09, 12:59 AM
HAHAHAHA! Good job on the Rap artists! Though I think it is:

#1 81 Cent
#2 Snoop Hog
#3 Felly


Anyways you forgot White Zombie(Rob's old ban( and I saw no Motorhead.

undeadzombieguy
2003-11-09, 02:21 AM
hmm am I the only 1 that likes rap around here ? I listnen to almost all sorts of music, even classical sometimes, but 2 types of music I absolutely dislike are
1. boybands crap
2.(heavy)metal. Like there music videos are better than rap music videos (I know u will all say yes) only seeing some ugly band who scream something in the microfone and waving there hair or shaking there heads. Srry but I then really prefer seeing rap videos.

Its mainly that I mainly like slow paced music. U know the ones where U get relaxed, most rap is that. if I want to listnen to fast paced music I listnen to trance, dance or hardhouse, not metal.

anyway thats my opinion, every1 got there own taste.

RoboticSilence
2003-11-09, 02:24 AM
So you like Country music? I hope you die.

Jessifer
2003-11-09, 07:35 AM
Hey now, I like Country music! But I like Rock more. And New Age. I love New Age.

Penny_Bags
2003-11-09, 09:20 AM
Classic rock pwns you all. Guns N Roses baby!

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-09, 05:48 PM
Gons N' Roses are pretty shweet. They are great and I do like classic rock. Not pussy soft classic rock, but their kind.

Demosthenes
2003-11-09, 05:50 PM
RAP...

rap has gone down slowly but steadily since the death of pac and big but im still a rap fan

plus...pac is still comin out w/ new songs...lol

only good new rappers 2 emerge since the death of big are DMX, eminem, and 50 cent

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-09, 06:03 PM
RAP IS CRAP!

Rurouni Storm
2003-11-09, 07:43 PM
And Godsmack is not a new band. They've been around since the early '90s.

Grav
2003-11-09, 07:47 PM
r4p imho i5 dtrm1n3d bai t3h w4Y 1|\| W]=[1|[h t724yh tr1p0s1t0R135 ar3 s34[] 1n50 l1G\-\7

RoboticSilence
2003-11-09, 07:54 PM
I'm a sucker for the 80's music.

Demosthenes
2003-11-09, 08:10 PM
r4p imho i5 dtrm1n3d bai t3h w4Y 1|\| W]=[1|[h t724yh tr1p0s1t0R135 ar3 s34[] 1n50 l1G\-\7

translation plz

all i got was rap imho is determined by the way in which ? ? ? ?

Grav
2003-11-09, 08:17 PM
You can't read that??

Also I'm pretty sure DMX was around before Biggie died, heh.

Demosthenes
2003-11-09, 08:18 PM
nope...

it's dark and hell is hot came out in 98

i dunno...did he have a cd b4 that?

Grav
2003-11-09, 08:21 PM
Flesh Of My Flesh Blood Of My Blood (Def Jam Recordings/B.A.R./Ruff Ryders, 1998)

No Love For Me (1997)

Born Loser (1993)

At least, that's what a discography says.

They might be singles though.

Demosthenes
2003-11-09, 08:23 PM
o yes...i forgot he was part of the ruff ryders

the other 2 discs i have not heard of though. I just have and then there was X. For some reason for me it just goes back as far as its dark and hell is hot.

RoboticSilence
2003-11-09, 08:31 PM
That's the first one I ever heard.

OmniFalcon
2003-11-09, 10:40 PM
I usually fall asleep by listening to some Metallica or System of The Down or a little Korn. Sometimes, I listen to Noemi or Scooter *trance* to also catch my Zzz's. If you have trouble sleeping, download this song. It is good to fall asleep to *In an non-insultant way*. I am not saying that it's only purpose is to help you sleep, I am saying it is a good song that you can listen to any time and when you want that song that is quiet yet keeping a good beat that can relax you into a good resting form, here you go.

Noemi - Y.O.U
Noemi - In my Dreams

^_^

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-11, 09:56 AM
"I need serenity... In a place that I can hide.
I need serenity./i]. Nothing changes, days go by.

Dan XIII
2003-11-11, 10:02 AM
I mostly listen to Linkin Park .

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-11, 02:39 PM
I don't care for alternative.

Penny_Bags
2003-11-11, 04:27 PM
I also don't care for alternative... or rap... or pop... or country... or anything but classic rock, some new rock, a wee bit of punk, and whatever Coldplay is considered.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-11, 04:36 PM
I like some op and some classical but Rock always rules.

J_iceman
2003-11-12, 12:11 PM
Classic rock pwns you all. Guns N Roses baby! yeah, thats the stuff :-P

since biggie and 2pac are gone i changed to rock, well soft rock that is 98.7 and 102.7

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-12, 04:36 PM
I hate soft rock. But your vote is a vote for rock so, hurray!

OmniFalcon
2003-11-12, 10:23 PM
I like Coldplay. I like Linkin Park.

101.1(not really that good ne more)
94.7(yay) = Rock Stations of Chicago land
95.1(yay)

J_iceman
2003-11-13, 09:20 AM
94.7(yay) = Rock Stations of Chicago land


over here its soft jaz in the morning and classical at night.....hate that station!!!!

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-13, 10:09 AM
Our best rock station is 101.1 WRIF. It pwns ALL!!!

Dan XIII
2003-11-13, 10:15 AM
I listen to 92.3 0r 100.7 and sometimes there is rock on 96.5 but mostly rap.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-13, 10:46 AM
The RIFF owns all other rock stations. ANYWHERE!!!

Jessifer
2003-11-13, 11:54 AM
Whenever I wanna get my rock fix I turn it to 107.7. Woo!

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-13, 04:05 PM
Puh-shaw! RIFF OWNS!

I think Godsmack, AC/DC, Mushroomhead, Perfect Circle, Puddle of Mudd are good. I like alot more, but I'm drunK.

Dan XIII
2003-11-18, 09:22 AM
most of you must be from a completely different steate then.I am from Ohio.

6InchBluePony
2003-11-18, 10:17 AM
i hate rap, LONG LIVE ROCK AND ROLL

RaZ
2003-11-22, 04:11 PM
I mostly listen to Linkin Park .

same here... Hybrid Theory was the best album ive ever purchased.. i also like bands like metallica,mudvayne,drowning pool,tool,perfect circle, staind, old system of a down.. etc.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-22, 08:18 PM
Who here likes Godsmack?

Demosthenes
2003-11-22, 08:48 PM
not me

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-22, 09:14 PM
Then you suck.

RaZ
2003-11-23, 09:56 AM
yes godsmack kicks ass but i mainly like their old shit

Raziel
2003-11-23, 11:23 PM
Godsmack should fire Sully and find a vocalist that isn't trying to be James Hetfield.

Rap vs. Rock? This shouldn't even be a question. Anyone with a single iota of common sense would know the answer to this.

Demosthenes
2003-11-23, 11:24 PM
and it would be rap...lol

Sovereign
2003-11-23, 11:28 PM
You should be shot for saying that. Didnt mantra make it clear? RAP= Retards Attempting Poetry.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-24, 09:59 AM
Crackheads, dope dealers, your basic assembly of losers who can't get a real job. That is the true reallity of the supposed form of music know as rap.

Demosthenes
2003-11-24, 10:02 AM
If you can find better, cleaner rappers t han so be it. Can u rap better? Im not saying that some of the ppl that rap arent stupid im saying the music is good.

J_iceman
2003-11-24, 03:59 PM
If you can find better, cleaner rappers t han so be it. Can u rap better? Im not saying that some of the ppl that rap arent stupid im saying the music is good.

you have to know English very well to come up with words that actually go on beat, THAT's why its so dam cool...instead of just saying what evr is in your mind O_o

uncapped
2003-11-24, 04:12 PM
Rap Rock, I love both of them a lot. I lean more towards rock though.

Godsmack blows, but I think they're like a phase or something. I used to like them, but I realized how fucking gay they are soon enough.

Nothingface, Sevendust, Finger Eleven, Powerman 5000, The Deftones, that's the kind of music that will never get boring to me. I've seen the Deftones so many times live, and they're just so good performing.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-25, 10:02 AM
Sevendust? That gay band who did some of the soudtrack for Scream 3? They BLOW not Godsmack. And as for Powerman, all I have to say is "Supernova Goes Pop" That song....ruined any chances I had of liking them.

uncapped
2003-11-25, 03:58 PM
Goddamn, your tastes are so fucking naive.

D3V
2003-11-25, 05:08 PM
All rap is, is a fucking way for a nigger to make money without robbing a bank or living off welfare.

There is NO talent about it, (but) there is some hope for rap. The only 'white' rapper Eminem is the ONLY decent rapper on the face of this earth, ...and why is that you might say?? BECAUSE HE IS WHITE!

When you listen to rap, you hear the same fucking thing, my NIGGERS, and YOUS NIGGERS GONNA FIGHT YAWL, NIGGASH UP IN DES CLUB WITH A NIGGASH ANDS THEF THUGS. Its horrible english and jumbled up words and throw in a 'beat' and any chimpanze can have a record deal.

I was at the Zoo the other day and I was at the 'monkey' area of it and I saw these gorillas freestyling each other, it was funny as hell, I think they were having one of their 'tribal battles'.

Rock is actual music, with actual instruments, Its not all computer generated and bannana-filled like the nigger music they call rap.

Rock ...n....roll...

Dan XIII
2003-11-26, 11:04 AM
All rap is, is a fucking way for a nigger to make money without robbing a bank or living off welfare.

There is NO talent about it, (but) there is some hope for rap. The only 'white' rapper Eminem is the ONLY decent rapper on the face of this earth, ...and why is that you might say?? BECAUSE HE IS WHITE!

When you listen to rap, you hear the same fucking thing, my NIGGERS, and YOUS NIGGERS GONNA FIGHT YAWL, NIGGASH UP IN DES CLUB WITH A NIGGASH ANDS THEF THUGS. Its horrible english and jumbled up words and throw in a 'beat' and any chimpanze can have a record deal.

I was at the Zoo the other day and I was at the 'monkey' area of it and I saw these gorillas freestyling each other, it was funny as hell, I think they were having one of their 'tribal battles'.

Rock is actual music, with actual instruments, Its not all computer generated and bannana-filled like the nigger music they call rap.

Rock ...n....roll...stop being a racist loser you piece of crap.And why are you saying Eminem is a good rapper.He sucks Michael Jackson.

rusher657
2003-11-26, 02:10 PM
I mostly listen to Linkin Park .

same here... Hybrid Theory was the best album ive ever purchased.. i also like bands like metallica,mudvayne,drowning pool,tool,perfect circle, staind, old system of a down.. etc.
ditto
Oh D3v you suck cause you like eminem he is a raper wannabe the only good rappers are black yo.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-27, 09:31 PM
That user you call D3V, I call raaaaaacist!

Heh, a little Chapelle's Show humor.




Oh and AC/DC RULES ALL!

rusher657
2003-11-28, 09:38 AM
All rap is, is a fucking way for a nigger to make money without robbing a bank or living off welfare.

There is NO talent about it, (but) there is some hope for rap. The only 'white' rapper Eminem is the ONLY decent rapper on the face of this earth, ...and why is that you might say?? BECAUSE HE IS WHITE!

When you listen to rap, you hear the same fucking thing, my NIGGERS, and YOUS NIGGERS GONNA FIGHT YAWL, NIGGASH UP IN DES CLUB WITH A NIGGASH ANDS THEF THUGS. Its horrible english and jumbled up words and throw in a 'beat' and any chimpanze can have a record deal.

I was at the Zoo the other day and I was at the 'monkey' area of it and I saw these gorillas freestyling each other, it was funny as hell, I think they were having one of their 'tribal battles'.

Rock is actual music, with actual instruments, Its not all computer generated and bannana-filled like the nigger music they call rap.

Rock ...n....roll...stop being a racist loser you piece of crap.And why are you saying Eminem is a good rapper.He sucks Michael Jackson. Did you finish that sentence?

RaZ
2003-11-28, 11:01 PM
i think what d3v said was some funny shit, and i have to agree with him on some extent.. if these people werent rapping they'd be in prison. Rap was interesting when it first came about but now every song is about the same fucking thing.. and its fucking beat now, rap blows the cock and its final.

rusher657
2003-11-29, 11:02 AM
Who here likes Godsmack?
Godsmack is a ok band I use to like them a lot but I grown out of it. My favorite band of course is linkin park they have that great song hyprid theory.

But lets get back on topic I like both some rappers are good like lil white. I also free style with my freinds. But I mainly listen to rock.

Sovereign
2003-11-29, 11:07 AM
After rereading this whole thread, I STILL dont see why the fuck people can even stand rap. Its garbage, degrading, and pathetic. And people still listen to it.

Valmar
2003-11-29, 11:16 AM
Sov, i for one disagree with you. Rap has its moments. Take for instance Bone Thugs, they are the only REAL rappers with talent that i know of. Every song if perfectally harmonized and they dont just rap about thier "Thug Life". But on the other hand, take 50 cent, he however is just a voice and not even a good one at that, sure he doesnt walk with a limp but he sure as hell talks with one. Chingy, another voice. What is thurr?? Care to buy a vowel? Most of the rap is crap but there is some good rap out "thurr" if you would give it a chance.

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-29, 01:11 PM
Rap blows. No talent required. Just get a rhyming dictionary, couple grand and some hot chichs and BAM!! You've got a music video and alot of people love cuz they're stupid.

uncapped
2003-11-29, 02:08 PM
Now I remember while I was trying to leave Zelaron. I'm pretty sure Krayzie Bone is the only person here who has put up an argument more mature than that of a 6 year old would write. Nice job, kiddies!

Kuja`s #1
2003-11-29, 04:44 PM
Why are you spamming?

Ozzy vs. 2pac. Ozzy wins!!!

RaZ
2003-11-30, 01:46 AM
Why are you spamming?

Ozzy vs. 2pac. Ozzy wins!!!

Well that is a pretty easy fight seeing how 2pac is already dead.