Abortion

["angel" of war]

I don't agree with it i know what you're gonna say but it has nothing to do with religion im not a devout anything. I know its more than a black and white issue and that its not jus done by lazy parents but still i don't agree with taking someones life before they even had a chance to live it.

my friend recently found out that she's pregnant and her family are forcing her to go out of the country (if you don't know i live in malta were abortion is forbiden) and get one done or face disownment(people round here still do it one of the few things i hate about my country)

i would like your opinion on the subject and please no jokes like your parents should have had an abortion to me or anyone this isn't the flame forum and its in extremely poor taste

[EX-Mania]

Well for some reason I don't oppose abortions 2much.. if there is really a bad situation that the baby shouldn't be delivered then sure.. just dont do it at home.. because when you think about it.. wanking off is like a million abortions.. all killing conciousness beings who havent seen light of day.. and the babies who are in the womb earent concious either (not that i know of) and if they get killed it's not like they have something to complain about..not like they "WANTED" to be there.. they just are

[undeadzombieguy]

I do agree with abortion, in some cases. The ppl who have abortion most of the time are underaged, drugaddicts or prostitutes. Those ppl just arent fit for being parents and/or do not have the funds for raising a child. In this case its better to dont have the child instead of having the child and give it a horrible youth and possible a horrible life

[0nyx]

Abortion is undoubtedly one of the most physically and mentally traumatic things a women can ever go through, I can not imagine any one would go through with it, with out good reason to.


"angel" of war, your friend is going to need your support, no matter if you agree or disagree with what she is going to do, if she is being forced into this then she will appreciate a good friend afterwards.

["angel" of war]

I have been trying to lend an ear but thats all i can give her, i can't give her any advice and i can see that she really needs it and even though i don't agree with it i don't want to give her any wrong advice.

[Medieval Bob]

wanking off is like a million abortions..

That depends on how you look at a sperm. It's not really life; the egg is.

Anyhow, I know someone who had an abortion when she was 13, and it was on the down low. I never even heard about it until last year. Then I started to dislike her. I didn't realize that I was doing it until a few months ago. So, even though I had said that I didn't oppose abortions, I think that I'm subconsiously strongly against the idea.

That is, of course, unless the baby was conceived in a horrible circumstance--rape for example.

[Wiccan][V][asta]

What other horrible curcumstances are there? BDSM? Bukakke?:p

I myself agree 100% with undeadzombieguy. He basically said everything I was going to, so just refer to his post.

[J_iceman]

I do agree with abortion, in some cases. The ppl who have abortion most of the time are underaged, drugaddicts or prostitutes. Those ppl just arent fit for being parents and/or do not have the funds for raising a child. In this case its better to dont have the child instead of having the child and give it a horrible youth and possible a horrible life

i also agree with Wiccan][V][asta and undeadzombieguy, its better to have the abortion than to have the child be brought up the wrong way. If he or she is brought to this world he probably wish that he be not born (with all these politics, and polutants and other things going around the world, I MYSELF dont want to be here!!

[Medieval Bob]

[V][asta"]What other horrible curcumstances are there? BDSM? Bukakke?:p

I myself agree 100% with undeadzombieguy. He basically said everything I was going to, so just refer to his post.

None come to mind, but I left it general in case I overlooked something.

[Wiccan][V][asta]

Haha, I know. I was just messing with you. BDSM and Bukakke aren't like rape, they're just freaky.

[gpkyo]

heh, i don't care too much about abortion because i believe sometimes it's needed. For example, if the doctor said your baby was gonna only live for a year; but during this process he/she will suffer great illness. What's the point of bringing the baby into this world. If your friend is wants to keep the baby she has to have enough money, if you know what I mean. If she doesn't want to then she should just go for abortion. Everyone dies... this is I believe.

[Titusfied]

Just a simple question, would you guys rather have abortion legal, or would you rather females that are so desperate violate their bodies and do physical harm to themselves with hangars and whatnot? I personally think that pro-choice is the way to go, but not always. If it is used as a form of controseption, that is horseshit, but just like in almost EVERY situation, certain circumstances can, do and will arise where it is an exception... :(

[Medieval Bob]

It's not very viable contraception even if they wanted it for that. It costs way too much. Just buying condoms or going on the pill would be much cheaper. (I think... I don't know what a supply of the pill costs.)

[Titusfied]

I know that, of course, I'm just saying, some people do use it as a form of controseption, and that fucked up... :(

[EX-Mania]

Well if you don't like abortions this ought to change your minds!
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/content.php?id=85361&name=85361_ABORT.swf&title=Birds%20n%27%20Bees&date=1060920000&quality=b&w=550&h=400

[J_iceman]

Just a simple question, would you guys rather have abortion legal, or would you rather females that are so desperate violate their bodies and do physical harm to themselves with hangars and whatnot?

thats just freakin NASTY. you ever thought about how women can actually stab a child while still in the womb?? then let it die.....don't thay STILL have to go to the hospital to take it out??

my co-worker said that his ex-wife was going to have a baby and that when thay went to the hospital thay said it was dead for a few months already because of all the stress she has during work. thay had to have that sergicaly removed !!

so as for that girl, if she is not willing or is having second thoughts, then she should not have the baby, she should only have the baby in a stress free environment knowing she will give 120% od work towards the baby !!

[khwiii]

I am totally against abortion. I think it's totally wrong, in every sense of the word. This being said, it is just NOT my place to say what anyone does with their own body. Just as it's not my place to say who can or can't do drugs, who can or can't drink, or who can or can't do self mutilation.

The question I pose to Bob, (I only mention you because I know your religous beliefs.) You feel it's ok in cases such as rape? Could it be considered "God's will"? I put that in quotations simply because I know your God wouldn't make that happen, but more let it.

[Medieval Bob]

I don't think the will of God has anything to do with an abortion for a rape victim. Put yourself in her place. Let's say you're also young and innocent, perhaps a bit too sheltered, which is how you got in the predicament in the first place.

*You're a virgin. Your very first time was at a party that you had gone to with some friends. Your friends go to hang out with other people, leaving you all alone on the couch. A nice looking guy hands you a drink. You don't know it, but there's something else in your crown n coke besides crown and coke. You end up in the alley behind the house with the guy unwillingly and with two others cheering him on. The next day you don't tell anyone about it because you feel horrible about it, you're scared, and you think that somehow it must be your fault. Three weeks later, your period is late... You go buy a home pregnancy test, and the result is positive.*

Do you want to have a baby that will always remind you of that horrible night? Whenever you see his face, you will think of it. Whenever you hear him laugh, you will think of it. Whenever you hear his name, you will think of it. You will always be haunted by the horrible actions of some nameless guy at a party.

[Kuja]

Actualy for the rape i dunno if it s like that in general but i know 2 girls that got raped and they kept the baby. Well maybe they liked it and decided to keep a souvenir.

[DrowningOnAir]

Whatever....im not a chick

[Titusfied]

*You're a virgin.

No, You're a virgin.

[Medieval Bob]

Lol dumbass. It was roleplay. Notice the * at the beginning and the end of the paragraph. Hopefully you were joking.

[Titusfied]

Of course I was! :)

I don't know why, but directly after I read your post, that is what I thought of, so I posted it! LoL!

Give me a little more credit than that, I know it was an obvious hypothetical situation to get your point across.

[khwiii]

I don't think the will of God has anything to do with an abortion for a rape victim. Put yourself in her place. Let's say you're also young and innocent, perhaps a bit too sheltered, which is how you got in the predicament in the first place.

I completely understand what you are saying, and I think it's definately a woman's choice, as it is her body. I was just curious how you felt about the whole thing. Thnx.