Tifa or Aeris

[Kuja`s #1]

Which girl is better? I have no doubt that Aeris will win. But I don't understand why. Aeris was ugly and stupid not to mention weak. Tifa was cool, strong and a better character in everyway. But I made this thread to see what you think so...

[Kaneda]

Ummm wheres the poll buddy? Oh, and Tifa ownzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Nvm, You edited.

[!King_Amazon!]

Tifa was too much of a tom boy, aeris was cute and innocent, which beats tom boy any day.

[Kuja`s #1]

I forgot to make a poll.

Tom boy?

[Medieval Bob]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=tomboy

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[Kuja`s #1]

I KNOW what it means. I just don't see Tifa that way.

[Kuja]

Aeris > Tifa.

[haplo]

Aeris was useless and weak. plus u spend hella time building her stats up to equal the rest of the crew and then she dies. the first time i played it i was pissed bout all the time i wasted on her.

[Cerridwen]

Aerith all the WAY~~~!!! She may be weak and useless in the physical combat department, but she's great to use in the magic department. I'd pick magic-casters over martial artists any given day...but...then again, I adored Emeralda over Elhaym Van Houten. ^^;; Anyway, back to the subject...I was so shocked when she died! Well, it's a good thing she came back to life in FF Tactics, somewhat...^^;; BTW, is there any real way to revive her? Or I'll eat my hat if there is.

[Kuja]

No real way to revive.

[!King_Amazon!]

You can Gamesharkify her.

[Kuja]

Yeah well he was asking for a REAL way.

[!King_Amazon!]

It's not a fake way, it actually works.

[Kuja]

It work but it s not a real way cause she will still be considered dead by the game it s not part of the game.
If it was real way to revive he you wouldnt need gameshark.

[RoboticSilence]

You can always revive her by reloading an old save and playing through the rest of the game again. :D

[Raziel]

Aeris and Tifa were the same damned character. The only difference between them was their looks and combat abilities. In terms of character, they were both the same person. They were both "secretly" in love with Cloud and were too damned wussy to say anything about it. They were both rather soft-spoken, and both shared the same opinions, speech patterns and responses to any given situation. They were exactly the same.

[Cerridwen]

I DID do the Gamehsark thing on her, but it was kind of useless. The moment I stepped on the boundaries of North Crater, she DISAPPEARED~~~!!! I guess you could only use her where you "revived" her...:( And then I tried that Sephiroth thing (where you can use him as a normal party member) but Vincent instantly died and only 2 party members were left alive whenever we went into battle.

For some strange reason, Aerith wasn't that shy with her feelings with Cloud, Tifa was! Aerith and Cloud went on that Gold Saucer ride, remember, and she told him straight-out that she liked him (even if Cloud was a little dense....^_^;;). Tifa didn't realize she was in love with Cloud until that event in the Lifestream.

Well, it was a good thing she was sort of revived in FF Tactics and Kingdom Hearts. I guess the game developers can't get enough of her, that's why they had her populate some of their other games that have no connection whatsoever with FFVII (well, they injected a bit of the FFVII storyline in Tactics...).

Oh, and BTW, I'm female.

[!King_Amazon!]

For some strange reason, Aerith wasn't that shy with her feelings with Cloud, Tifa was! Aerith and Cloud went on that Gold Saucer ride, remember, and she told him straight-out that she liked him (even if Cloud was a little dense....^_^;;). Tifa didn't realize she was in love with Cloud until that event in the Lifestream.

That's all based on how you treat the two of them.

[RoboticSilence]

Aeris and Tifa were the same damned character. The only difference between them was their looks and combat abilities. In terms of character, they were both the same person. They were both "secretly" in love with Cloud and were too damned wussy to say anything about it. They were both rather soft-spoken, and both shared the same opinions, speech patterns and responses to any given situation. They were exactly the same.

One of them dies...

[Cerridwen]

OK. Tifa's kind of dense, Aerith's...well...kinda like Rinoa in a sense that she can actually say what she feels. I tried doing that horrid pick-up line on Tifa the morning after when we were about to raid another Mako plant and she's coming along for the ride (you know when you can choose a reply to her good morning routine?!). Damn!

Other than the fact that Tifa was modeled after Lara Croft and Aerith looks like Sephiroth's younger sister AND one of them dies...these 2 young women are as different as night and day. You can't get any better than that!

[Kuja]

OK. Tifa's kind of dense, Aerith's...well...kinda like Rinoa

???

[Kuja`s #1]

Either he/she means Tifa has big knockers and Aeris is to emotional or...well I don't know what else.

[Raziel]

I fail to see how bigger tits and surviving until the ending make Tifa any different from Aeris. They looked different, had different Limit Breaks, and one of them died. Those were the only differences. Aeris may have stated her feelings for Cloud, but she never acted upon them. She treated Cloud like "that guy that I really should date, but that for some reason I don't want to." Tifa did damn near the exact same thing, only in a more subtle fashion. They were the same character.

[!King_Amazon!]

When I played, Aeris was all over cloud. She was all freakin him out on the date and stuff, like she wanted to fuck him.

[Raziel]

That's not the interpretaion I got. She was fawning over him, yes, but that doesn't equate to "I want to fuck him." Trust me, I've had a number of girls treat me in the same fashion, and just because a girl fawns over you doesn't mean she's gonna take even so much as a single step in the direction of a relationship with you. Aeris was just more more vocal about her affection for Cloud than Tifa was. She didn't make any serious advances, she was just flirting with him.

[!King_Amazon!]

Aeris is, of course, the prime date candidate. Thus, her date is the
flagship date, and the one that will of course tie in most prominently with
the game's plot as a whole. This date is also the most interactive date,
though no matter how much of an asshole you are to her, she just doesn't get
the point, anyways. Aeris shows up at your room intent on taking you out on
a date. And she does. Forcefully. After shoving you out the door, you end
up at the station at the Gold Saucer. A man there tells you that tonight is
Enchantment Night, and everything is free. First, you and Aeris go to the
Event Square, where you are offically declared to be the 100th couple of the
night, and thus you get to star as the leads in the play. Let me begin by
saying that the play runs the exact same for every date (well, except for
Barret's). Also, should you find yourself with the overwhelming desire to
mess the play up (a temptation that is indeed difficult to resist), go for
it. This is because your actions during the play will have no bearing on
what happens during the rest of your date, so do what you like. There are
two basic ways the play can end, either with you vanquishing the Evil Dragon
King and everyone living hapily ever after, or by you screwing the play up.
This, in turn, will make Aeris mad. She will then slap Cloud and then kick
the hell out of the Evil Dragon King. Amusing, to say the least. Whichever
you would like to go for is completely up to you, and thankfully, it doesn't
take a rocket scientist to predict which of the lines given to you will lead
to which result. That being said, there are a few different ways you can go
with your lines, but there's actually very little to be seen in the means of
variety. The only interesting thing to do is to talk to the knight and ask
him to defeat the Evil Dragon King. He tries. And he gets the hell beaten
out of himself. It's funny. Also note that once the knight has gotten his
stupid ass killed, you still have time to obtain either the "good" or "bad"
endings to the play. With the play over, Aeris decides that she is next
going to take you on the Gondola at the Round Square. Romantic music plays
and you are treated to a visual feast of sights and fireworks. A short
while into the ride, Aeris begins talking. She mentions how eerie it is how
you and her ex-boyfriend look, walk, act, and talk so much alike. But
things are different with you, she says. As the camera zooms out, the
conversation hits a higher note. Aeris tells Cloud that she's searching for
him... and that she'd like to "meet" him. I'm sure we all know what she's
trying to say. Hell, anyone with an intellegence level higher than that of
a stapler knows what she's trying to say. Cloud just doesn't get it,
though, and the date comes to a bit of an anti-climatic end with Aeris
promising to take Cloud out again sometime.

Taken from gamefaqs.com.

[Raziel]

And? She and Tifa both had similar moments. Granted, Tifa didn't drag Cloud around Gold Saucer by his shaft and tell him "I want to meet Cloud", but she had a similar scene with him toawrds the end of the game. Tifa said damn near the exact same thing the night before the group heads for the North Crater. Tifa was also always bringing up the "remember your promise" junk throughout the entire game, constantly reminding him of their past together. Aeris took the "hot new chick" routine and Tifa took the "hot, longtime friend" path. They both had the same objective, it's just that one of them was a bit more vigorous about it.

[Cerridwen]

No, I wasn't pertaining to Tifa's knockers! What I meant about Aerith acting like Rinoa is because...well...she actually tried to tell him what she felt (whereas Rinoa was literally telling Squall she was like SO into him even way, way into the beginning of the game). Tifa was like "remember your promise" and this and that. OO;; OK. One was flirting, the other was just...doing it the hard way. They were both the same because they both had feelings for Cloud; different in how they handled their feelings towards him and one of them died. Aerith, who looked like she was the one capable of being that overly shy towards a guy she liked, was WAY opposite of how she was supposed to ACT, and Tifa was just the same as she was (her personality didn't match how she must have looked to people out there).

Tifa was dense, as Cloud was dense, and Aerith wasn't.

Aerith acted like a modern young woman should nowadays (although that doesn't mean she drags her crush all around the town then tell him straight to his face that she really, REALLY digs him) and Tifa acted the more conservative, traditional type (the love which grows on childhood friendship and such). They ARE that different; it didn't have anything to do with their physical attributes. And they were the same, because they both fell for Cloud.





"Touch my hair and you will DIE~~~!!!" - Sephiroth

[Shining Knights]

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

[Cerridwen]

Sorry. Yup, I know it is just a game. What more if it was REAL?! O.o;;

[Raziel]

The similarities in their character go beyond just how they approached their individual dilemmas with Cloud. They both took slightly different paths in that respect, but their responses to practically any given situation were exactly the same otherwise. They didn't disagree on anything, they didn't have differing opinions, they didn't respond differently to the other characters. They looked different, had different battle capabilities, and went about their interest in Cloud in slightly different fashions. Besides those few meager details, they were exactly the same.

[Cerridwen]

O...K.

[Juggalo]

Tifa pwnz Aeris...

Number 1. Aeris couldn't fight....
Number 2. Aeris got killed...
Number 3. Tifa Didn't
Number 4. Aeris uses a stick...
Number 5. Tifa fights with fists...
Number 6. Aeris is a panzee
Number 7. Tifa could kick someone's ass
Number 8. Aeris could get the shit beat outta her by Tifa....

[Kuja]

Ok...
Let s not forget that Aeris could fight but was a HEALER ?
You shouldnt piss off that flower girl !
You have no idea what kind of pain she can inflict whit a petunia.

[Chruser]

Aeris' heal-all spell is quite nice.

[Cerridwen]

If it weren't for Aerith's earlier Limit Breaks, the FFVII party's all SCREWED~~~!!! I forgot if it also healed all status ailments, though...^______^;;

And if it weren't for her, Tifa wouldn't get to snog Cloud. She save the goddamn PLANET with Holy~~~!!! Now who says she's WEAK~~~?!

[Kuja]

I do !
Sephiroth Pierced her just as easy as it is to pass a knife in butter.
The heal were usefull tho :)

[Cerridwen]

^^;;

She wasn't facing the other way. If she did, she could've avoided it.

[!King_Amazon!]

Yes, it was a pussy shot on sephiroths part. She knew she was gonna die, and probably didn't do anything about it for a reason.

[Tai]

I personally ended up using yuffie more then tifa or aeris. I like spunky lol, that and her outfit kicked arse. Of course, if you're cloud, you could probably get *both* Tifa -and- Aeris.

Plus, wasnt there a glitch in the game that would make Barret show up at the golden saucer ride instead of one of the girls?

[!King_Amazon!]

Yes, but it wasn't a glitch.

[Kuja]

It s cause barret wanted teh sex.

[Cerridwen]

Yes, it was a pussy shot on sephiroths part. She knew she was gonna die, and probably didn't do anything about it for a reason.




^o^

I guess Sephiroth can't stand it that someone's more gorgeous than he is.....^o^ ^o^ ^o^ ^o^

[Jessifer]

I can't stand Aeris, I wish my boobs defied gravity like Tifa's do, and Yuffie is the best of them.

*bows and exits, stage right*

[Cerridwen]

Who would want gravity-defying mammary glands?! I must admit I was quite surprised when I saw how Tife used her assets to her advantage in the last FMV....

I like Yuffie. Her Doom of the Living and Bloodfest kicks major @$$.

[Jessifer]

Who would want gravity-defying mammary glands?! I must admit I was quite surprised when I saw how Tife used her assets to her advantage in the last FMV....

I like Yuffie. Her Doom of the Living and Bloodfest kicks major @$$.


Those of us who actually have boobs that size (and possibly bigger). They're hella painfull, y0. But I won't turn this thread into a conversation about my breasts. I'll save that for a thread that may or may not be created in the future.

Anyway, if Tifa and Aeris were to battle each other, there's no doubt that Tifa would win.

Aeris is just way too girly and weak. In my humble opinion, Aeris is just in the game to move the plot along. She doesn't help much in the battles, except for healing early on in the game (If I remember correctly. I haven't played in a couple of years since I lost the game. Aeris does heal, doesn't she?). Her physical attacks were weak.

Aeris can't even take care of herself. The moment she's left alone, she gets run through. Tifa, on the other hand, can kick almost anyone's ass. And girls who can kick ass are hot. Her physical attacks are much stronger than Aeris'. I also like her limit break better.

But I do like Yuffie better than both of them.

[Raziel]

Yuffie just annoyed the shit out of me. Partially because I wasn't keen on her design, and partially because she was a loudmouth, and I'm not fond of loudmouths.

[Dan XIII]

I think Tifa is way better.She is prettier,smarterandstronger.

[Jessifer]

Yuffie just annoyed the shit out of me. Partially because I wasn't keen on her design, and partially because she was a loudmouth, and I'm not fond of loudmouths.


She reminded me a lot of Selphie from FF8. Selphie was a good character (even if her hair did annoy me), but not as good as Quistis. ;) But I suppose that Yuffie did get annoying in some spots. But damn, at least she's better than Aeris.

[Kuja`s #1]

How did Tifa use his tits in the last FMV scene? I can't remember her using them...

Tifa pwns!

[!King_Amazon!]

Tifa use his tits

[Jessifer]

Tifa must be one damn busty transexual! Fooled me.

[Raziel]

I didn't like Selphie either, or Eiko, for that matter. There's just something about those types of characters that other people find "endearing," and I just don't see it. When I look at Selphie or Yuffie, I see a hyper-active cheerleader that just won't keep quiet for more than three seconds. That just bugs the shit out of me.

[OmniFalcon]

tifa in the movie where the WEAPONS are released in the northern crater that ends up being sephiroth's pad...
man...
barret so just grabbed her...







arm
u cant love a dead girl liek aeris cuz SEPHIROTH STABBED HER WITH HIS SWORD THAT IS LIKE 2WICE HIS HEIGHT RIGHT THROUGH HER STOMACH AND SHE DIED AND I WAS LIKE U MUTHER F***ING B***CH IMMA OWN UR MOM *jenova* and i did

[Jessifer]

...Someone needs an Elephant Tranq or 10.

Maybe this thread should be called "Final Fantasy" in general, and not just this "Tifa or Aeris" crap. We're getting off topic. o.O

[Kuja`s #1]

Tifa was cool!

[Cerridwen]

@Kuja's #1
It happened when Cloud and Tifa were struggling to get out of the hole they almost fell through in the last FMV. O____O;; That was one hell of a busty assistance...


@Jessifer
On Tifa and Aerith and Yuffie's Attributes
Tifa's stronger because she was supposed to be a fighting chick. Hell, she's even stronger than Cloud, more agile than Yuffie, and even if her roulette's kinda evil to get to work, her Limit Breaks are very powerful (especially her somewhat Hadouken-esque-Kamehameha-esque Final Heaven). As a trade-off, she wasn't a great magic caster. Aerith on the other hand is your typical white mage heroine whose magic prowess is more damaging than her whacking stick. She knew she was a bother, and the only thing she could do for them was to pray for Holy and try save the Planet before it's too late. And look, if it weren't for Aerith's Limit Breaks earlier on in the game and her magical prowess, I'm betting you guys you wouldn't get too far into the game. She's more of a support character, and not a kick-@$$ character like Tifa. And her final Limit Break's the coolest support Limit Break I've ever seen; it's a shame she was skewered by Sephiroth, though....TT_TT Yuffie, on the other hand, is practically annoying, steals Materia and then when she returns them back they're all mixed up in your slots, but her plethora of wicked Limit Breaks makes up for her hyperactive and loud personality. . She's supposed to be 16, for crying out loud, and her co-party members aren't exactly her age group except maybe for Red XIII [or was it XII?!] (hence the whining brat syndrome). And she's quite a better magic caster than Tifa.

In other words, if it weren't for those "girly, weak and practically useless in a physical combat" white mages, we'll all hit the ground flat smack right down on our faces.

[!King_Amazon!]

If you don't have a white mage in FF1 you're practically screwed.

@Jessifer
If the thread gets off topic, you don't change the title, you make a new thread.

@Cerri
It was Red XIII

[OmniFalcon]

who in ur opinion is more manly, tifa or aeris? i would say tifa because shes stronger than aeris and she obviously doesnt go to the middle of a temple and sits down and makes cloud try to kill herself and then out of no where gets stabbed in the stomach with the masamune! i would say tifa is better than aeris ^.^

[Kuja`s #1]

Now that the fighting is over, onto the beauty part of the competition.

First up Aeris.

[Kuja`s #1]

Aeris (close up)

[Kuja`s #1]

Tifa

[Kuja`s #1]

Tifa (Full body)

[Kuja`s #1]

They trade clothes.

[Jessifer]

I dunno. I prefer Tifa over Aeris even in looks. :-T

[Kuja`s #1]

Yeah so do I.

Tifa is Teh Hotness.

[Jessifer]

Yes. Yes she is. And whoever doesn't prefer her over Aeris needs to have their ass kicked.

[!King_Amazon!]

Aeris is fuckin hawt in tifa's outfit. And in her own.

Aeris wins.

[Jessifer]

You're currently outnumbered. So hush. Tifa wins. End of story.

[Kuja`s #1]

In Tifa's outfit, yeah but in her own, she's not.

[Cerridwen]

She wasn't supposed to look hot in it, it's just her God-forsaken fashion sense. Would you believe her to be this cool magic-casting soft-hearted white mage if she's wearing a tube dress? Fashion almost always contribute to the overall impact of the character design that would make us either hate them or love them for it. And hell yeah, we have our own set of stereotypes.

OK, for those who still choose Tifa over Aerith, here's a rundown...in all Square titles I've come across so far:

Tifa =
Appeared in FF 7
Appeared in Ergheiz

Aerith=
Appeared in FF 7
Appeared in Final Fantasy Tactics
Appeared in Kingdom Hearts

You may have your own opinions, but in my opinion, the game developers at Square-Enix just love her character as to make her incarnate in these 2 un-FF7-esque titles. Tifa incarnated as Rinoa in FF8, and Garnet in FF9 (just check out the damn HAIR~~~!!!), but they totally reworked her over and these 2 Tifa clones only retained her hairstyle and not much else in the costume or personality department. Just using the same character over and over again makes you think that there is something about Aerith or any character out there that has stood the test of time and the gamers would still love (or in this case hate) her or him for it.

As for Cloud =
Appeared in FF 7
Appeared in Ergheiz
Appeared in Final Fantasy Tactics
Appeared in Kingdom Hearts

Sephiroth =
Appeared in FF 7
Appeared in Ergheiz
Appeared in Kingdom Hearts

And Yuffie =
Appeared in FF 7
Appeared in Ergheiz (secret character, along with Vincent)
Appeared in Kingdom Hearts

But this is a Tifa VS Aerith thread, so these characters are another story. But they basically reflect the same things that Aerith has that made them incarnate as themselves in the original FF 7 or an offshoot of what they were in these succeeding games.

[Kuja`s #1]

Tifa wins!

[!King_Amazon!]

Tifa loses.

[Jessifer]

Tifa wins! So there!

And I really can't STAND Rinoa and Garnet! They're so annoying...

[Kuja`s #1]

HEY! I liked them both! Don't mess with my bitches!

Tifa is just better in all ways. She's hotter, tougher, doesn't die and she is actually Cloud's friend. They should get married and have kids. Aeris is like....a one-nighter girl.

[Jessifer]

I think Aeris would have liked to have been a one night stand for both Cloud and Tifa.

[Kuja`s #1]

The Tifa and Aeris one-nighter I would like:sex:

[Kuja]

Aeris wins.
Tifa loses.

[Cerridwen]

Tifa wins! So there!

And I really can't STAND Rinoa and Garnet! They're so annoying...



I HATE RINOA~~~!!! But I like Garnet. She's intelligent, focused, and contrary to what other people think, not a spoiled brat. She wants the commoners to see her as Garnet and not as the Princess of Alexandria. Her
Eidolon Trance is one of the most useful Trances in the game, along with all of Zidane's Dyne skills and Amarant's Chakra. I just hate how some of her rod weapons look like, though; they look like mutated lollipops....O_____O;;

Tifa would only win if this is going to be a catfight. But in other aspects, I dunno. Tifa is a frigging fighting chick and Aerith is NOT. Tifa is stronger physically but Aerith is NOT. Tifa is Cloud's childhood friend and Aerith is NOT. Tifa manages a bar and Aerith does NOT. Tifa could cook and Aerith....well...they didn't say anything about her kitchen abilities.

BUT...!!!

Aerith summoned Holy and Tifa CANNOT. Aerith could cast all those cool magic spells and summons with twice as much damage and Tifa CANNOT. Aerith looks nice in her outfit and Tifa's and Tifa does NOT (look hot in Aerith's outfit). Let's see Tifa try using all her Limit Breaks once Aerith casts Knights of the Round. Take that you @#^%*#(#& B****~~~!!!

And yes, Cloud can't wait for the day he'll finally see Aerith again. Now how can Tifa hold a candle to Aerith with THAT~~~?!

[Kuja`s #1]

Rinoa's Angel Wings was pretty useful. I also just liked her attitude. She just seemed to me like a good character.

But Garnet is better than her. But she had a psychological problem. And when we were in a fight and she couldn't focus I was pissed!!


Tifa wins!

Aeris loses!

[Jessifer]

Garnet was better than Rinoa. Rinoa just annoyed me, even if her Angel Wings was useful occasionally. I like Rinoa's dog more than I like Rinoa.


And Tifa winnnnnnnnz!

[StarcraftGhost]

Gah, noticed this thread went onto 5 different pages. I also can't believe I read all of it just to know why it was talking about Garnet and Rinoa when I first skipped all of it. =\ ANYWAY. I think Tifa owns. She's pretty, she can suffocate Aeris with those melons, she can snap that little Mythril stick with her hands and she was one of the power-houses of the game (Premium Heart is nice for limit, and Gods Hand + Deathblow, is a never missing Power Hit). As for that Garnet and Rinoa thing...I guess I can stand Rinoa, but Garnet, hell no. Im sorry but I can't stand looking at someone with a head the same size as their entire body. (Then again I never really liked FF9 all that much, it was WAY too kiddish and the card game sucked compared to Triad). Only thing interesting about the game was looking at Bahamat's ass kicking and Shiva's new look.

[Jessifer]

Mmm...Shiva... *drool*

Bah! That's it! I'm requesting FF7 for Christmas!

[Kuja`s #1]

The only Shiva I liked was in FFX.

Angelo? I liked Rinoa more than that useless mut.

[Cerridwen]

Rinoa's Angel Wings was pretty useful. I also just liked her attitude. She just seemed to me like a good character.

But Garnet is better than her. But she had a psychological problem. And when we were in a fight and she couldn't focus I was pissed!!


Tifa wins!

Aeris loses!



Rinoa's USELESS~~~!!! The only Limit Breaks worthy of note are her Invincible Moon, Shooting Star, and her Angel Wing, but then again, she always uses Angelo Cannon, and her Angel Wing casts stupid useless spells most of the time. BTW, how long is she in Angel Wing Limit Break anyway?

Garnet became useless after the attack on Alexandria because she wasn't able to deal with the trauma she felt upon leading her own kingdom to its ruin. I was pretty pissed off most of the time because she can't concentrate and can't cast spells or summon properly. Then she gets her hair cut and she reverts to Garnet all over again! I didn't get Ark. But everubody told me it was useless. Damn! She should've stuck on Alexander instead. But then again Madeen would become useless.....:P

As I've told you guys a billion times already Aerith would lose if she and Tifa gets into a catfight. If she ONLY gets into a catfight. OK?! Tifa is a fighting chick, well-suited for catfighting. But in other aspects Aerith wins.

[Jessifer]

Rinoa's USELESS~~~!!! The only Limit Breaks worthy of note are her Invincible Moon, Shooting Star, and her Angel Wing, but then again, she always uses Angelo Cannon, and her Angel Wing casts stupid useless spells most of the time. BTW, how long is she in Angel Wing Limit Break anyway?

Invincible Moon was probably my favorite limitbreak, because it was so usefull. And Shooting Star was pretty cool as well. Angel Wing lasts the whole battle, I do believe.


As I've told you guys a billion times already Aerith would lose if she and Tifa gets into a catfight. If she ONLY gets into a catfight. OK?! Tifa is a fighting chick, well-suited for catfighting. But in other aspects Aerith wins.

I disagree. IMHO, Tifa can be much more of a woman than Aeris if she actually wanted to be. But damn, I'd rather kick ass and be sexy than be feminine and pretty.

[Raziel]

Garnet became useless after the attack on Alexandria because she wasn't able to deal with the trauma she felt upon leading her own kingdom to its ruin.

What would you have preferred? That she just shrug it off and keep kicking ass? That wouldn't have been particularly realistic, would it?

I didn't get Ark. But everubody told me it was useless.

Ark was pretty cool, actually. The only thing that pissed me off about him was that once he transformed into "robot form," he wasn't really animated at all. He just kind of hovered there and shot a bunch of crap out of his shoulder cannon. He was cool (and easily the stongest summon in the game) but he needed to be more animated.

[Kuja`s #1]

Cerri, I know about FFIX. People undermind me all the time. And since FFIX is my favoirte, I know every aspect of it.

Why are we talking about Rinoa/Angelo/Garnet? Tifa pwns ALL!

[Raziel]

Dagger was way better than Tifa...

[Kuja`s #1]

Dagger was good, but the way she had all the cool summons but couldn't use'em at first was gay. And then she loses them once you can start using a couple of them.

[Raziel]

Yeah, but it fit in with the story. She just wasn't capable of summoning yet. She'd had no field experience, and only a minimal amount of training, none of it directed towards her summoning abilities. Plus, I liked seeing all of those summons in her list at the beginning and knowing that later on I'd be able to kick somebody's ass with them.

[!King_Amazon!]

What fun would it be if you could just use them all from the beginning anyway? The game wouldn't be a challenge.

[Cerridwen]

@ Raziel
Being the newly crowned Queen of Alexandria as she was, Garnet didn't actually see that one coming. At 16, she was given responsibilities that even she was still unsure of, if her judgment and her other prerequisite skills (^^;;) of being a full-fledged Queen would suffice in order to bring shape out of chaos (that is, reforming Alexandria and ruling it after her mother's death). Then shit happens. Garnet blamed herself for leading her own kingdom to ruin, and she even doubted her capabilities as a Queen, which led to her uselessness in one part of the game. She wasn't even sure if her own capabilities would surpass that of her mother's, who, despite her oddities, was dearly loved by the entire populace. She also has to deal with those misconceptions of being a royal brat who's just about contentedly happy sitting on a throne with a crown on her head. She took everything to heart. It only took a ragtag band of misfits to make Garnet find what she was looking for and in the end, became the Queen that Alexandria was hoping her to be.

Garnet: "Someday I'll be Queen, but I'll always be myself."

On an added sidenote...WHY THE HELL DID THEY TAKE ALEXANDER OUT OF THE FRIGGING GAME~~~?! I really like the Eidolons, even if they have this goofy "amass your treasure trove of gems" system to make some summons kick even bigger ass then they are normally doing. I never did take time out to collect them all, but seeing Bahamut shoot an enemy party down with his Mega Flare sure does my heart lots of good. Garnet's Eidolon Trance sure is one of them very useful Trances in the entire game.

@Jessifer
Aerith was more womanly than Tifa in more ways than one. But I agree with you on one point. Who doesn't want to kick ass and look incredibly sexy at the same time? But then again, Aerith's femininity was just part of her character design, as well with her usual plethora of vulnerable stereotypical white mage syndrome characteristics, and I wasn't even aware that she was the main heroine of VII until Rurouni Storm kindly pointed it out to me via the RPG Cliches section. OR maybe, I was blinking too much....:P

@Kuja's #1
Garnet is way better than Tifa and Rinoa combined. As for the Rinoa-Angelo-Garnet thingy, I am one of those people responsible for bringing them into light. As we all know, this is a Tifa VS Aerith thread, and for all we know this fight should be brought to the attention by folks way over at the Zelaron Melee forum. As for the number of Tifa fans in this trhead indicate, I could definitely see who's in the glaring red lights of humiliating loss by now....TT_TT but I say Aerith Gainsborough till the END~~~~!!!

@Starcraft Ghost
The people in FF IX look like a bunch of chibified characters, and it's kinda cool, actually. It's a different leap from the usual well-proportioned characters we get to see all the time. At first I utterly hated the premise but now, I saw why the character designers wanted that particular game to come out chibified. It made the story more endearing. Like we're reading some damn children's fairytale book. But at least it's a very interesting and engaging children's fairytale book complete with monsters, a thief, a princess, several faraway kingdoms, and a villain which makes all our hearts swear that yes, there IS life after Sephiroth.

Yatta, yatta, YATTA~~~!!!!

[Kuja`s #1]

KA, I was just commenting on it.

[Kuja]

Here is how i see it.
Alexander cannot be summoned at other time in the game because it took the power the 2 summoner to bring him and Garnet was in a high state of trance.

[Kuja`s #1]

Yeah, that's right Kuja. And we never even saw all of Alexander. Just it's wings.

[Kuja]

He was completly summoned.
http://www.ffgon.com/images/ff9/screenshots/disk3/15.jpg
http://www.ffgon.com/images/ff9/screenshots/disk3/21.jpg
http://www.disc13.com/images_gallery/ff9_alexander_01.jpg

[Kuja`s #1]

Hmmmm...I have a question, but I'll start another thread concerning it.

[Cerridwen]

So I guess Alexander totally kicks @$$. Too bad, it takes 2 to summon him....TT_TT But Garland has him skewered. NO~~~!!!

[KagomJack]

I say Tifa is better. Not cus she has great big boobs, but cus she was in some way, more in love with Cloud and she really showed it more (in my opinion)

[!King_Amazon!]

Actually Aeris had a higher starting love rating than any of the others, it all depends on how you play the game though.

[KagomJack]

played it with Tifa in more love i guess.

[!King_Amazon!]

It just depends on how you treat them, but Aeris likes cloud more from the start.

[Jessifer]

Supposedly Tifa had been in love with Cloud since they were young. So Tifa had at least loved Cloud longer than Aeris had.

[Raziel]

That, and there's a big difference between the connection two people share after having been involved" with one another for a number of years and the feelings one has for another when first meeting them. When you first start dating someone, you want to spend practically all of your free time with them, which explains why Aeris' "love level" was higher than Tifa's at the start. Cloud had a more meaningful connection with Tifa because he had known her a lot longer. Aeris ws the new girl and therefore, the short-term connection was stronger.

[!King_Amazon!]

Well still, Aeris had the most starting love for Cloud, Barret had the least, and Tifa and Yuffie are somewhere in the middle.

I think it goes better with the story that Aeris loved him more anyway.

[Kuja]

Yeah well Cloud prefered Aeris but since she died he can always use Tifa for her body till he find more interesting.

Tifa and Squall would go very good together.
They both are uneasy with that thing called *emotion*

[Raziel]

I think it goes better with the story that Aeris loved him more anyway.

I don't think she loved him more. Cloud and Tifa had a connection going all the way back to childhood. Cloud and Aeris knew each other for what couldn't have amounted to any longer than a few weeks. I would consider a lifelong relationship (romantic or not) to be more meaningful and filled with love than a three-week flirt-o-rama.

[Kuja]

I dont see how it can be filled with love since it been for so long. I see it more as the same thing with getting used to something/someone. In the same way anyone like a old pair of jeans, shoes, slipper or whatever.

[!King_Amazon!]

I'm going by the game. The beginning love rating Aeris has for cloud is more than any of the other girls(and barret.)

[Raziel]

I dont see how it can be filled with love since it been for so long. I see it more as the same thing with getting used to something/someone. In the same way anyone like a old pair of jeans, shoes, slipper or whatever.

This coming from the guy that suggested Shinto destroy his ex-girlfriend's life and mental condition because she cheated on him. I doubt very highly that you'd understand the kind of love that I'm describing.

[Jessifer]

I think it goes better with the story that Aeris loved him more anyway.

I don't think she loved him more. Cloud and Tifa had a connection going all the way back to childhood. Cloud and Aeris knew each other for what couldn't have amounted to any longer than a few weeks. I would consider a lifelong relationship (romantic or not) to be more meaningful and filled with love than a three-week flirt-o-rama.


I have to agree with Raziel. Even if there is that silly thing called "Love at first Sight". Bah. Humbug.

I personally would rather have a relationship with someone I've known since childhood than someone I just met.

[Kuja]

This coming from the guy that suggested Shinto destroy his ex-girlfriend's life and mental condition because she cheated on him. I doubt very highly that you'd understand the kind of love that I'm describing.

It's not love if your with someone for a long time and you end up enjoying yourself more then before with that person. It's kinda the same thing with most ppl that start to drink beer. We all know that most ppl hate the taste of beer and end up liking it over time. It's almost the same thing. The only diff. is that the beer cannot end up enjoying back after time. This is why you dont feel the same toward beer, old pair of jeans, shoes, slipper or whatever, That you could toward someone.

[quikspy67]

Tifa's hot!!!

[Kuja`s #1]

He didn't love Aeris more. He never really showed a great rush of love towards either of them....except Tifa during his memory thing. Had it not been for that, you might have learned if he really loved Tifa at all.

[Cerridwen]

Aerith saw Zack in Cloud. And Tifa didn't know she was harboring feelings for Cloud ever since that Lifestream incident. It's more like Cloud has a crush on her right from the start and Tifa was kinda clueless. He wanted to become stronger so that Tifa could notice him. Hey, isn't it all same for most guys out there? Just to get noticed by a girl, I mean? Anyway, Aerith did tell Cloud he reminded him of her boyfriend, and she wanted to make sure she was liking him on a different note than what had happened with Zack; i.e. she was just making sure that her feelings were real and not because that she liked Cloud because he was like Zack. It's really frustrating for a guy to know something like this. I mean, would it be OK with you if your girlfriends like you just because you remind them of somebody else? Ouch City, man. And I really have to hand it to Aerith, she was honest. And Tifa likes to beat around the bush, and in the end, Aerith won Cloud's heart.

Go, AERITH~~~!!!

As for the childhood and love-at-first-sight thingy, I'm with romance that started from childhood and then blossomed into something tender. But there are some girls out there who don't know how to handle them, and Tifa is one of them, so I don't like her.