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Raziel
2003-08-05, 07:07 PM
Another one of the forums I frequent has an entire board dedicated to character battles. So, I decided I'd carry the theme over and start doing this every once in a while.

Our first bout is between the anti-hero of the Soul Reaver series, Raziel, and the villain of Final Fantasy 7, Sephiroth. So, who wins? I've already made my decision, but I'll explain why later. I want to hear other people's arguments first.

badboy
2003-08-05, 07:19 PM
I wonder who you choose, hmm.

Raziel
2003-08-05, 07:34 PM
It's pretty damned obvious who I voted for, but I want to hear reasons from people when they vote. If you're going to post your opinion, state why you have that opinion.

Jamesadin
2003-08-05, 08:03 PM
Raziel is so much more badass than Sephiroth.

Titusfied
2003-08-05, 08:04 PM
Well honestly, I don't know who Raziel is, so I voted Sephiroth because he was a bad ass dude in FF7 that wreaked havoc everywhere he went, until Cloud crushed him with an Omni-Slash that is... Seph and his long ass killer sword is my favorite video game villain of all time to date, so of course I went with him.

!King_Amazon!
2003-08-05, 08:18 PM
All of the soul reaver games sucked IMO so I chose Sephie.

Omni_Sephiroth
2003-08-22, 09:18 AM
Raziel in Soul Reaver is an Imortal Vampire there for Can not be kill so i think he would win although i think Sephiroth is really cool:)

Dark Raziel
2003-08-22, 09:33 AM
Raziel is the best & if you think soul reaver or blood omen sucks you no you suck becauces the legacy of kain sereis (witch include blood omen,blood omen2,soul reaver,soul reaver 2 & deifance when it comes out) is 1 of the best games ive ever played in my life

Raziel
2003-08-23, 04:08 AM
"Dark Raziel"

Okay, I am not happy about this.

Tai
2003-08-23, 08:30 AM
Raziel can't die, and can shift dimensions. Sephy's just really strong. Raziel would own him.

RoboticSilence
2003-08-23, 12:25 PM
Yeah, Sephiroth doesn't have a chance. Raziel could just shift into the other plane, heal himself, then shift back and continue the raping.

Raziel
2003-08-23, 07:22 PM
Okay, so I guess I'll explain why I think Raziel would destroy Sephiroth. I'm at work, and bored out of my mind.

#1 Raziel is immortal. His corporeal body can be destroyed in the Material Realm, but all that happens is his wraith form materializes in the Spectral Realm and regenerates health until he's powerful enough to re-assume his physical form. Since time doesn't exist in the Spectral Realm, Sephiroth could slice Raziel in half, watch his body disintegrate and then regenerate instantly a few feet away from him. The only way Sephiroth could kill Raziel is if he were capable of following Raz into the Spectral Realm, which he can't.

#2 The Soul Reaver is a wraith balde, concentrated entirely of energy. So, it bypasses things like armor and other weapons. Going sword to sword with Raziel would get Sephiroth killed in a matter of moments.

#3 Raziel is the ultimate badass, Sephiroth is not.

Sephiroth would probably take Raziel down a few times, but he'd be back in a new body before the old one had even disintegrated. In the end, Raziel would open wide and devour every last bit of the villain's soul. Yummy.

Titusfied
2003-08-23, 07:24 PM
Then why is this even a fair fight? Maybe instead of making a battle where one of the villains can't die should be illegal...

Raziel
2003-08-23, 07:28 PM
Because I was hoping someone would come up with a good argument as to why I'm wrong. A slim chance, but I've seen people put up really good arguments in matches that seem almost impossible to win. That and I'm bitter about the fact that Sephiroth beat Raziel in the Great Gamefaqs Character Battle 2.

quikspy67
2003-08-23, 07:32 PM
Does Raizel have a weakness, can he feal pain?

Titusfied
2003-08-23, 07:35 PM
http://www.geocities.com/sephiroth9611/seph6.html

Who else can do that? He is still badass.

!King_Amazon!
2003-08-23, 07:37 PM
Yes, I don't see how you can say sephiroth isn't bad ass. He's one of the most bad ass game villians there is.

Titusfied
2003-08-23, 07:52 PM
Would someone please find me a good picture of Raziel so I can see this badass dude? I just looked on Google for like 15 minutes, and I couldn't find a good picture of what the fuck this mut nigger looks like... I'm very agitated because of this... As you can probably see, nigger... NIGGER!!!!

quikspy67
2003-08-23, 07:56 PM
My vote is for Raizel.

J_iceman
2003-08-23, 08:12 PM
dude didn't that foo Sephiroth, the one who stabed that tight ass chick in ff7?? that punk ass that made me cry :-(

who is Raizel, i never played a game with that name on it

that pic titus put was tight ass though (with Sephiroth) is he a god or live forever or something??


Even amongst the elite troops of SOLDIER, Sephiroth is known to be the best. His past is locked away in a confidential file held by Shinra, Inc. His giant sword, which only he can handle, has extremely destructive power. Said to have disappeared in a battle years ago, his current whereabouts are unknown..

RoboticSilence
2003-08-23, 09:03 PM
http://209.11.5.99/gss/legacy/legacyofkain/main.html
You'll find a whole hell of a lot about Raziel AND Kain here.

Medieval Bob
2003-08-23, 09:14 PM
Can we pit characters from books (Dragonlance is what I have in mind) against video game characters?

RoboticSilence
2003-08-23, 09:18 PM
It wouldn't be a videogame character battle, now would it?

I'd like to see more of these, Raziel... this is a better version of the GameFAQs Character Battle.

Titusfied
2003-08-23, 09:20 PM
From now on, pictures of the two should be posted in the OP, just to let the viewers get an idea of who is fighting.

Medieval Bob
2003-08-23, 09:27 PM
Aye... Sounds good.

Also, I figured that nobody would go for it. I'm just such a huge fan of the Dragonlance series that I thought I'd ask. I guarantee Raistlin would own Raziel. If anyone wants to discuss it, I'd be happy to oblige. :)

Raziel
2003-08-24, 02:57 AM
Frankly I don't care what kind of characters are pitted against one another. I just made a new one today featuring Samus and The Predator. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, there's an entire board dedicated to character battles at one of the other forums I frequent, and the only thing even close to a rule is that DBZ characters are not favored kindly in these battles. They're just too damned powerful.

But, now that I think about it, you've given me a good idea, Robotic. Zelaron should have it's own Character Battle Tournament. Only, instead of winners being decided solely by votes, there should be a couple of judges. The judges should base their decisions on who puts up the best argument in favor of the character they think would win. That way it wouldn't just be a huge popularity contest like the Gamefaqs Battle Tournament.

Medieval Bob
2003-08-24, 09:15 AM
*voice of a WC3 char* Sounds Good

RoboticSilence
2003-08-24, 10:49 AM
Now if only we could convince Churser to give us a nice and shiny Character Battle forum once we have a bunch of these going.

Titusfied
2003-08-24, 10:53 AM
Its in the progress... Don't worry.. ;)

:) :) :) :) :) :)

Kuja`s #1
2003-08-27, 05:33 PM
Since when is Sephiroth "The Angel of Death"? He's just a frick'n puppet. He has no thoughts of his own. Jenova controlls him. Not too mention he's so stupid he doesn't know that Meteor will KILL HIM!!!!!! What an idiot!!!!

Raziel.