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Seliggy
2003-03-13, 11:50 AM
What is the top 5 best duellers on d2????? i think
1) Ama
2)Sorc
3)Brb
4)pala
5)necro

plz let me know what you think because i have a sorc lvl66 but ama's still beat me :cry: :rolleyes: :cry: :cry:

seeya

‡AC‡
2003-03-13, 12:20 PM
depends on type of char
ice scorc
bow zon
foh pally
javabarb
ww barb
bs necro
charge pally
fire scorc
java zon


well thats my idea

Senesia
2003-03-13, 12:43 PM
In my opinion, a well built sorc controlled by a skilled player should be the best.
With a good control of Teleport, Orb + CM, TS/Hydra, sorc is almost impossible to beat.

Sorc also forced the creation of the hacked item...hehe.
Most of the Ith CB and Bow has the 75% all resist (Silence), but that didn't stop the sorc...the resist on White gloves didn't stop them...then the all elemental Absorb on White Rings had ended the "ownage" of PvP sorc.

Apoq
2003-03-13, 02:51 PM
i think he meant with legit gear..

in that case i agree to, well built sorc with good player can beat every other legit character

`Insolence`
2003-03-13, 04:57 PM
ama > sorc, silence bow, speed, random arrows, 1.5k life, max res, some lit/cold obsorb, decent frw, valk, decoy. and they own most any meele, dodge evade, and that other one (lol) real nice imo, but sorc owns all after that.

l337 l3alla
2003-03-13, 07:11 PM
I would have to say an iceorb sorc with chilling armor and t/s. They just teleport all over the place, and it's extremely easy to dodge missles.

After sorcs, I would have to say javazons. With perfect Ethereal Titans, Stormshield, String/T-Gods, and an 08 vampgaze (or perfect 09), with an inventory filled with faster walk/run charms, will own every char (except sorc) in any legit duels.

That's what I think at least

Assmonk
2003-03-13, 07:14 PM
Well, necros can pwn if u bulild them right and it is very easy to make them legit.

Senesia
2003-03-13, 08:24 PM
Sorc > Necro...
It is hard to even land a BS on a skilled Sorc...the BS doesn't track very well...and Sorc would probably max PR if going against Necro 1v1...PN won't help much even if you get it on the sorc.

‡AC‡
2003-03-14, 11:36 AM
ive killed quite a few scorces with my necro, while bs doesnt trak well as u sayed. a scorc that doesnt be carefull will tele into it and u cant say a lvl 28 bs doesnt hurt like hell. it normally takes 3-5 bs to kill a char of the same lvl. (provided it all legit gear)

Apoq
2003-03-14, 01:13 PM
not true. takes nearly 8+ bs's to take down a 1500+hp sorc..
and they'd have to lag or not be a good sorc to stand still and let you get 8bs's in on them

caster wise necros are alot slower : (
and 28? thats maybe good for a low level dr necro 37 is easily achievable on a well setup dr necro

and for dueling sorcs, dr isn't neccesary : )

you can get sLvl 39 bs easily if not more if you don't need to worry about fcr..

Senesia
2003-03-14, 05:26 PM
Necro can get 9fpc and 40+ BS if DR is out of the way ^_^
10 P/B GC, 10x 17mana 5% frw sc.

2 skill 20% fcr ammy, 2 skill 20% fcr circlet, ViperMagi 30% fcr(1), lidless 20% fcr(1), 2 sojs, 20% fcr magefist/trang's. White wand 20% fcr (+3 bone, +3 BS), Trang's belt (50 mana CBF)
= 130 % fcr

Lv 44 BS, 9fpc, cannot be frozen and maybe lower mana.

Let's see...the necro's mana at level 99.

Necro starts with 25 mana.
Mana +2 per level
Each point in energy +2 mana
Base energy build.

25+ ((99-1)x2)
25+ (196) = 221

Lidless:
Increase Maximum Mana 10%
+10 To Energy = 20 mana.

2 sojs:
Increase Maximum Mana 50%
+40 To Mana

White Wand
+13 To Mana

10x 17 mana frw sc's
170 mana.

Mana from charms/items = 170+13+40+20 = 243.
243+221 = 464.
464 x 1.6% (increase max mana) = 742 Mana at level 99.

But the necro would have low resistance and no absorb, so the sorc could kill that necro in a quick orb'ing. ^_^

Apoq
2003-03-15, 12:30 AM
thats why my plan didn't use whitewand, i prefer suicide branch/wizards spike : )

necros are also allowed to use 2 ravenfrosts in legit pvp against sorcs :~)

the most fcr you can get is about

50wiz+vMagi+hormunculus+magefist+10%fcr belt+ 20% fcr/ circlet or amulet,

countless ways of going about getting 9fpc rate, good resist, absorb..

Seliggy
2003-03-16, 12:17 PM
wow senesia is a very experienced player i think. thnx everybody for the replies, hopefully once i'm as good as you guys cause no a lvl 60 ama can beat me....

thanks

Seliggy
2003-03-16, 12:18 PM
wow senesia is a very experienced player i think. thnx everybody for the replies, hopefully once i'm as good as you guys cause now a lvl 60 ama can beat me....

thanks

Senesia
2003-03-16, 12:44 PM
wow senesia is a very experienced player i think

I guess Apoq is more pro...
I lack the..."1337 eyes to mouse co-ordination" when it comes to playing ><''

Anyway...
No problem, I'm happy to help~ ^_^

dirkdig
2003-03-17, 11:14 AM
i beat apoq ;)

‡AC‡
2003-03-17, 12:08 PM
not true. takes nearly 8+ bs's to take down a 1500+hp sorc..
and they'd have to lag or not be a good sorc to stand still and let you get 8bs's in on them

caster wise necros are alot slower : (
and 28? thats maybe good for a low level dr necro 37 is easily achievable on a well setup dr necro

and for dueling sorcs, dr isn't neccesary : )

you can get sLvl 39 bs easily if not more if you don't need to worry about fcr..


I Play Classicc... scorcs cant get that high life, well they can but they wouldnt have much of nething else

On classic lvl 29bs is the highest i've ever seen cus theres not many items that add more than +1 on classic (except sheilds , ammys, and wands):rolleyes: as far as shields go i havent seen a +2 necro or +2 to all skills yet.

Apoq
2003-03-17, 01:21 PM
dirkdig is liar, doesn't beat my zon sorc or druid : )

sorry astoo, i was talking about LoD

dirkdig
2003-03-18, 11:23 AM
lol Apoq I beat ur sorc and druid last time we dueled and haven't tried ur zon

‡AC‡
2003-03-18, 11:49 AM
no prob apoq

Valmar
2003-03-18, 12:48 PM
In my opinion, a well built sorc controlled by a skilled player should be the best.
With a good control of Teleport, Orb + CM, TS/Hydra, sorc is almost impossible to beat.

I must agree with my sweet little Senesia ;) :).

Apoq
2003-03-18, 01:15 PM
dirkdig, my zon murdered your barb a million times : O

my sorc won more atleast half

you tried to melee my druid and died i believe? eh

back on topic sorc is top in my opinion, not including new hacked items like bugged valor and stuff
or absorb..because they unbalance the duels alot >.<

dirkdig
2003-03-21, 08:55 AM
I'm not built for melee so yeah my barb would lose then.
Last time we dueled I beat your sorc 5-2 and am quite sure I haven't ever seen your zon you must be remembering wrong ;)
I'll be happy to do a rematch anytime if you want to put it straight.

Apoq
2003-03-21, 05:32 PM
yes i would

and yes my zon FurociousGirl is about 20 and 1-2 with you :~)