Nooby in 3D art, a LW qustion

[Acer]

LoL, how do I create a new layer in LW 7.0? I looked and looked all over this proggy. It is most likely in my face but I cant see it lol.

[Mr.Lee]

*Nevermind , saw wrong prog*

["CRØNîC-KîLLå"]

LoL, how do I create a new layer in LW 7.0? I looked and looked all over this proggy. It is most likely in my face but I cant see it lol.
using the modeler, look at the top right corner, you will see boxes split in half going vertically(i think), click on them to make new layers...

i think this is how it is done, but chruser should come along, chruser is the master in LW

[Acer]

Yeah I see lots of boxes that are divided by a line going from the bottom left to the top right. I will mess with it.

[vec]

yah clik the next one and so on.. then you shall make a new layer. i think...

[Acer]

I wonder if Zelaron is not home, he hasnt answered my IM so I can get this question settled :P. I havent seen him post lately too. Odd

[Chruser]

Well, I'm here, and I believe I gave you a detailed answer in an IM. Oh yes, maybe I should set up a place for basic questions.

[Acer]

Yeah, and thanks... it was helped me a lot. Im able to actually do stuff now :)

[Randuin]

You can't make new layers... there are only a certain ammount of layers you're given and you can only work with those layers

[badboy]

i am way out of my league

[Chruser]

Randuin, I assume you think infinity is a "certain number", then?

[Acer]

I am sorry to get alittle off-topic, but badboy you have gotten off-topic on most of my threads, please dont post things like that, thanks...

I found out how to work with layers thanks to Chruser.

[Randuin]

chruser... yes it is in fact a certain number :D

[Acer]

I certain undefined number... so there isnt a limit to layers? you just keep hitting over?

[Randuin]

i dunno :D i suck with LW... better with maya houdini and 3dsmax

[Acer]

Once i format i will try out those other progs and see what is up.

[Randuin]

you should because then you'll see how much lightwave sux

[Acer]

LoL, I dont even know lightwave enough to know that is is/isn't. I am such a noob at this.

[Randuin]

trust me... it sux :D just try maya and you'll be like... wha... why was i even using lightwave?!

[Acer]

I have heard that the best thing to do was to learn 3DMax, then LW, then Maya.... they said it is the best way to understand how those programs work.

[Randuin]

nah... just try 3dsmax and go to maya... LW... not much similiarities no point going to it

[Acer]

Should I even go to Max? or just go to maya?

[Randuin]

well if you can sit your ass down and learn go right ahead to maya i say

[Acer]

Yeah I had maya the whole time and didnt know it, it was just hinding in my comp :P. I been working with LW still and I finally understand how models are made and the process, this is a great thing for me since that is the most important thing in modeling.

[Randuin]

i dunno i just can't get used to LW :) i need to i guess... me need handles... lol

[Acer]

It has been more simple that I thought it would be, as I showed you, I am able to make a face.... and that is just that outline, I will be working on the detail soon.

[Randuin]

nod, try to work with some reference... makes your life a HELL a lot easy

[Acer]

Reference, what do you mean by that?

[Randuin]

like a picture to work from not from your imagination

[Acer]

I need things like since I dont know how the body works, once i get use to it... I shouldnt really need them. I been makeing all my designs from my head so far tho.

[Randuin]

well you should consider drawing your concept soon :) easier to model organically and well actually easier to model anything :)

[Acer]

I do once in while, I dont use them, but i do "try" to draw, I just have a problem to where, if I didnt make it look just right I will erase it or quite :P

[Randuin]

well with any 3d program you can have your reference picture as your viewport background and i don't think you need me to tell you how useful that can be :0

[Acer]

I found some site, didnt get to bookmark it :(. It should how to model the body by looking at pics and such... very very good I been searching for it again.

[Randuin]

there are LOTs of tutorials like that :D

[Acer]

If you know some, could you link me to them? Also I need to ask Chruser for some Video Tuts on LW... that would be nice to have.

[Randuin]

i dono't think there are much video tuts on LW out there... the ones that i know you have to pay

[Acer]

hmmm, I seen some made in flash, they would nice... I hope there are some free ones

[Randuin]

flash? those are well... i dunno i don't like em :D

[Acer]

It wasnt the gresting thing, but it helped me see how things were done. I say if someone just recorded themself working on a big project... wouldnt even have to be a tut. That would help a lot.

[Randuin]

well i can probly record myself do things =\ i dunno... but i'd have to get my thoughts together really well... because i often think alot during modelling and no one likes to watch the mouse not move :D

[Acer]

I do same thing, how could I record myself? like record my screen, is there a prog for it?

[Randuin]

www.camtasia.com

it's recorder and blah all in one... but you have to buy it... there is an evaluation version tho

[Acer]

Thanks, I will try it out, would it work while running games?

[Randuin]

probably... it worked while i was playing AVIs and stuf... so it probly will work :D

[Acer]

nice, I was thinking of starting Tuts Vids for noobs at games. It wouldnt be hard since I wouldnt have to write anything ;)

[Randuin]

games? omg ppl need tutorials to play games? that is just the saddest thing i've ever heard

[Acer]

Well what i mean is like when you get online and there are all these things you need to know, they can be learned in 5mins or less.

[Randuin]

ah... that is still kinda stupid if they can't play a game in the beginning they won't ever be good :D

[Acer]

lol, well it was main thought was to record demos so I can show my friends stuff that I dont want to explain over the phone.

[Randuin]

i c.. well have fun with camtasia... i gotta go and work on my head now :)

[Acer]

I will, and good luck... it is comeing out very nicely

[Randuin]

is it? i just hope you're not having problems with the recording area thingy

[Acer]

Yeah you Eye is looking really nice. I havent tried out the recording thing 'yet', I am about for Format soon.

[Randuin]

i can probly make a video tutorial on how i made the eye :D

[Acer]

really? if you dont mind I just like to see how you made the shape and such, or just record you working on it now, so I can see how you do things, if not that is cool

[Randuin]

oh it's okay when i find time i'll record it :) with audio :)

[Acer]

ooooohh, Audio :) yeah thanks, that would help me. If I can see how modelers work, it could help me a lot... I did that blood cell tut and I keep trying to read it to fast and was makeing small errors... I need to slow down.

[Randuin]

ya one thing i hate a tuts is that there are hardly ANY tutorials that tells you STEP BY STEP :D you know they always miss something ;)

[Acer]

yep, so for people who are new, that really messes things up. atleast with a video you can see what the person is doing, so you cant miss it :)

[Randuin]

ya and i just release the eye video tutorial :) hope you like it... hehe

[Acer]

yeah I seen it, but as you know I think I need to update DivX

[Randuin]

did you update divx? and they work afterwards?

[Acer]

I upgraded, but now I have to restart.... so I will try when I do :)

[Randuin]

ya after you upgrade it should work :)

[Acer]

It did, and it work :) I seen the maya ones... I plan to install maya 4.5 soon

[Randuin]

you should :) maya is one of those extremely good animating programs, you could probably model your models in LW and then import them into maya and rig/animate them

[Acer]

Yeah Chruser was saying that some maya work was modeled in LW.

[Randuin]

ya because maya's fluid and cloth is really powerful :) you should see REF, it's made by pazur it's an AMAZING short completely made in LW

[Acer]

What book should I get for Maya? The same aurthor(sc) that wrote the LW book I am going to get?

PS: (sc) means spellcheck

[Randuin]

dan ablan never wrote a book for maya =\ hell no he's only LW man :D

[Acer]

Ahh :( I guess I will have to find a greatly known/good book for maya.

[Randuin]

well i dunno... try going to a 3d school for it... they explain the software WAYYYYYYYY better than a book :D and ya i'm really looking forward to my 3k dollar summer maya program :D

[Acer]

I have only seen schools for 3Dsmax around here :(

[Randuin]

hahaha most of my schools here teach maya + XSI :D

[Acer]

no way, that is not fair :P My highschool only teaches VB, C++ and Java. And I toke C++ and still dont know much about it :(

[Randuin]

oh it's not my high school :D it's extra 3d schools... lol

[Acer]

I know, but my highschool is the closest school to teach me stuff. That 3D school is so far :p

[Randuin]

rofl i have like a 3d school 3 blocks away :)

[Acer]

Lucky You! I moved to PA(USA) for a month, and I was 20mins away from a 3D School. Then I moved back :p

[Randuin]

lol why didn't you go to some crappy 1 month intensive course there? :D

[Acer]

It is a school, so it has semesters.

[Randuin]

so i have seem schools offer part time courses... at least the 3 schools within 20 mins drive of me do :)

[Acer]

I will see if they have those here, I would like one.

[Randuin]

all school should have it :) just ask around :D you'll get your answer

[Acer]

Yep, I surely will, I really want to focus in Computer Graphic Programming too.

[Randuin]

i have an ebook on directx gfx programming

[Acer]

I was into DirectX, but I dont like it. OpenGL is my thing.

[Randuin]

directX is still widely used, it's good to have both

[Acer]

Yeah, I just never likes it, Vodoo's run well with DirectX too, right?

[Randuin]

i'm pretty sure everything runs well with directX :) but a crappy thing about it is that... it splits every polygon into two... make them triangles

[Acer]

everything does, but i just think openGL is faster.

[Randuin]

i did say directX split every polygon into triangles, more polygons = slower render time

[Acer]

yeah, but directX does work well with Glide and Windows to make up for that in a small way.

[Randuin]

well it'll be only a matter of time before linux take over the OS world! :D

[Acer]

yep, then it will be OpenGL, since DX wont work with linux